German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[Pessimist]

I am ambivalent about this not so much concerning the money that will be spent but suppose I am successful which must be possible since she is the one who initiated contact this time. What about my future trips since she has the ability to get her hooks in me.

You are an experienced monger and seem to be a gentleman with more life experience than I do in general, so I hesitate to say this: methinks these are unnecessary premature speculations. If I remember your reports, you are unattached and single, perhaps been that way for a long time, so these are most likely just natural jitters. She may have just wanted to chat, be friendly, and even if you end up having sex it hardly means she wants to tie the knot the next day. You did not say how old this lady is, her financial and professional status and emotional situation, her outlook on life; for all you know, she may be richer than you and wants to have a quick fuck buddy and then go her way. I would not jump to any conclusions. Just have a nice date, enjoy it, whatever happens happens. If things happen too fast, then that may be something to ponder. If things happen slowly and you keep seeing each other, then you will have plenty of time to reflect on your feelings and what you want.

Lastly, asking / broaching this topic on this particular forum is a waste of time. Most guys here from what I have seen (the ones writing and speaking up vocally) are single and are inclined to proclaim loudly that all women are gold diggers, women are inferior and need a man to take care of them; most of them have no clue about the value of emotional attachment and only know 50 E or 100 E per 30 min, and will tell you accordingly. Now, some of them will flame me for saying this, but what else can they do?

[Mursenary]

Although Romanians speak a Romance / Latin-based language, that does not make them "Latina"! To be a "Latina" or a "Latin" is more about a than it is a language. I have traveled, lived, and worked throughout all of Latin America and Europe (east, west, central, south you name it), and I know darn well that viewing Romanian girls and / or people as "Latins" because of their language is just misguided. Yes, Romanian is a Latin / Romance (Romance=Rome=Romania) language, but Romanians have their own unique culture that is distinct and in no way "Latina" in nature.

Romanians Latin but not Latino

"Latino" refers to people with ethnic origins relating to Latin America. Romania is squarely located in Eastern Europe and is significantly removed from anything related to the Americas. The Romanian language is derived from Latin, but that's a linguistic classification and has nothing to do with the ethnic make-up of Romanians vis-a-vis Latinos. If you search "Romanian ethnicity", you'll get a variety of results pointing to the Slavic, Baltic and slight Mediterranean mix, but that's still generally considered Eastern European. For the purposes of the US Census, they don't distinguish between White ethnicities save White Hispanic. So if you're Romanian, in the United States of America, you are White. Not Latino of "Hispanic". So, a Romanian would officially be considered White, Non-Hispanic / Non-Latino in the United States.

Example of you convoluting Latina and "a Latin (sic)" which is my contention. You imply that they are not "a Latin (sic)", later you say they are Latin not Latino. It makes it confusing for others to understand your stance.

Perhaps I am wrong here, but it seems that in the first post you were wrongly exclusively associating the term Latin with Latin American while in the latter you are making a loose association between Latin and language exclusive of culture which is my contention, that there is a subset of people of Latin culture not regulated to Latin American or Latino..

[Rocky V]

Around ten years ago I met this very hot girl at work and immediately began to slightly sexually harass her. About seven years ago we went out on a date, she is extremely high maintenance but all my efforts came to nought as I did not even get to first base. We did communicate a little afterwards but that fizzled out as I preferred to spend my cash on foreign trips. Last Saturday she sent me a friend request on fb to which I responded. Physically she is very much my type and she would put many FKK girls to shame. Not having travelled since March 2020 my bank accounts are quite healthy. I suggested a dinner meet without a specific date which she accepted. I am ambivalent about this not so much concerning the money that will be spent but suppose I am successful which must be possible since she is the one who initiated contact this time. What about my future trips since she has the ability to get her hooks in me.

Nice story and I would ask her what "she makes in zimmer"! LOL Jokes aside, I support KaveMan suggestion and I suggest you to go for it and enjoy a date together.

[Mursenary]

Yes you and Pistons had that discussion. I specifically made the distinction and avoided that blurry line, because you know, 3 people can have 2 different discussion. You can have that discussion with that brick wall while I'm over here trying to give you some distinction and benefit of the doubt that you can have a nuance discussion and parse pertinent details without having your ego compromise the integrity of the discussion.

Our difference is that I am asserting that Latin means something more than an association with language but is not the same as Latino.

Latin, not Latino. Please keep up rather than getting defensive. I gave you the respect of thinking that you are capable of doing so.

You know, you're one of these people who debates not to reach the right conclusion, but simply to be "right". The issue has never been about whether or not they are "Latin". The issue is about whether or not they are "Latino", which was raised when Pistons used "Latina". If your main contribution is that they are "Latin" and not "Latino", then it was you who was agreeing with me all along, and so with respect to you, the case was closed from the start. You're talking past me just to try to prove you're right. If you believe what you say, then you could have left it at that for me and Pistons to debate. But no! Mursenary is always right!

The term Latina has some connotations that come with it but I've known quite a few Romanian immigrants in America who regard their people to be Latin. I certainly see heavy similarities between your definition of Latin with the behavior of Romanian women: fiery and sassy, conservative family values, professed devotion to institutional religion, sensuality, etc. They are certainly more Latin in behavior than even Italians and Spanish.

[KaveMan]

I suggested a dinner meet without a specific date which she accepted. I am ambivalent about this not so much concerning the money that will be spent but suppose I am successful which must be possible since she is the one who initiated contact this time.

If you want to bang her do following:

Suggest meeting for Cocktails at high-end Lounge (eg, 5 star hotel bar, elite Wine bar, etc) near your home.

After 45 minutes & 1 drink; boldly suggest having a second drink at you place.

If she resists, leave.

If she accepts, bang her at your place.

This has worked for me with 11's, Models, Hollywood Actresses, Dancers, Strippers.

She will say: "I can't believe we are having sexy, doing shots and Trader Joes pizza. Other guys drop 1000's at NoBu on me and I give them blue balls".

You will thank me & send me the money you would have wasted on her via paypal.

[The Cane]

Like I explicitly said in my posts numerous times, Latin not Latino. Glad you agree and Thanks for reiterating my point. No one said anything about being Latin American since you can be both Latin and European simultaneously. I believe your exclusive association of the term Latin with Latin America is the erroneous use of the term because it has been tainted by the Americanization of the word Latin.

Now the case is closed

You know, you're one of these people who debates not to reach the right conclusion, but simply to be "right". The issue has never been about whether or not they are "Latin". The issue is about whether or not they are "Latino", which was raised when Pistons used "Latina". If your main contribution is that they are "Latin" and not "Latino", then it was you who was agreeing with me all along, and so with respect to you, the case was closed from the start. You're talking past me just to try to prove you're right. If you believe what you say, then you could have left it at that for me and Pistons to debate. But no! Mursenary is always right!

[Turgid]

NO! In capital letter and bald letter!

I do not see any point in marriage beside having kid, but I do not like kid that much, but I tend to love little cute dogs instead though LOL! But I love dogs! They are most lovely creatures in the world for me!

Around ten years ago I met this very hot girl at work and immediately began to slightly sexually harass her. About seven years ago we went out on a date, she is extremely high maintenance but all my efforts came to nought as I did not even get to first base. We did communicate a little afterwards but that fizzled out as I preferred to spend my cash on foreign trips. Last Saturday she sent me a friend request on fb to which I responded. Physically she is very much my type and she would put many FKK girls to shame. Not having travelled since March 2020 my bank accounts are quite healthy. I suggested a dinner meet without a specific date which she accepted. I am ambivalent about this not so much concerning the money that will be spent but suppose I am successful which must be possible since she is the one who initiated contact this time. What about my future trips since she has the ability to get her hooks in me.

[The Cane]

What about light skinned Phillipinos who are Spanish speakers? Are they Hispanic Latinos?

They are Asians whose names and language are influenced by imperial colonialism.

[Sirioja]

The post pandemic FKK prices are unsettled due to supply shortages and excess demand in many ways. Not all the clubs functioned, not at their prior full capacities, not all the girls were back, some clubs may have operated at fewer # hrs, some rooms may have been offline, etc. On the demand side, even though it was Germans predominantly, there was pent up demand, demand pulled in future (because some guys may have been afraid clubs would shut soon), and so on.

In the last 18 months, supply disruptions impacted everything, and clubs are not immune. These prices are unsettled. However, I am not saying they will settle down again; probably won't but I don't know.

Also, we don't know how the prices would have behaved had there been a large number of foreigners. To say "prices went up when Germans dominated on the demand side and hence that proves Germans are equally culpable" is not logical when there is no alternate data point to show what prices might have been had a large mix of foreigners also were present in addition to Germans at the same time. Most likely, prices would have been worse. Just from the simple point that more men would have been there for the same # girls, plus the foreigners would be even more desperate to make hay while the vaccine shines.

Some girls and also at Oase or Palace, asked 100/30 and 150/60 or even 200/60 already quite often before covid. Locals, mostly Germans, paid such rates to go to apartments under lockdown. But can still find 100/60 for GFE with fluent real French kiss and BBBJ, for many rooms for me at Sharks. When You really visited, since September I saw many times many girls who were really not busy. My elegant at Sharks asked me if I know better business. I couldn't advice her Globe on this time, I didn't want to fall from being well mannered she opened to, to perverse in porn business, not for her despite bigger money.

[PaulInZurich]

The post pandemic FKK prices are unsettled due to supply shortages and excess demand in many ways. Not all the clubs functioned, not at their prior full capacities, not all the girls were back, some clubs may have operated at fewer # hrs, some rooms may have been offline, etc. On the demand side, even though it was Germans predominantly, there was pent up demand, demand pulled in future (because some guys may have been afraid clubs would shut soon), and so on.

In the last 18 months, supply disruptions impacted everything, and clubs are not immune. These prices are unsettled. However, I am not saying they will settle down again; probably won't but I don't know.

Also, we don't know how the prices would have behaved had there been a large number of foreigners. To say "prices went up when Germans dominated on the demand side and hence that proves Germans are equally culpable" is not logical when there is no alternate data point to show what prices might have been had a large mix of foreigners also were present in addition to Germans at the same time. Most likely, prices would have been worse. Just from the simple point that more men would have been there for the same # girls, plus the foreigners would be even more desperate to make hay while the vaccine shines.

Totally agree with this analysis.

[Sirioja]

I am with the Cane on this one. In Spain they tend to prefer South American to Romanian girls from what I have gathered on the Spanish forums here. There is a more than discernable difference, Romanian girls just don't have the sexual energy and vibe of South American girls. They certainly don't compare to Brazilian girls, which I agree are outliers. I had been with a Columbian girl recently, and it felt totally different than an RO girl experience.

As to Romanians calling themselves Latin in the US, they might seem culturally Latin compared to Anglos, but they are more like Italians than Mexicans and Dominicans to me.

I doubt a Romanian restaurant would have the same vibe as a Mexican one, more like an Italian one.

Yes in Spain, South Americans Latinas like Columbians or Cubans or Brazilians with big ass are told to be the best, but not for me. In Germany, Germans are told Deutsch qualitat, but on average, Romanians are more woman, less robotic, for me.

[DrPoon]

"Latino" refers to people with ethnic origins relating to Latin America. Romania is squarely located in Eastern Europe and is significantly removed from anything related to the Americas. The Romanian language is derived from Latin, but that's a linguistic classification and has nothing to do with the ethnic make-up of Romanians vis-a-vis Latinos. If you search "Romanian ethnicity", you'll get a variety of results pointing to the Slavic, Baltic and slight Mediterranean mix, but that's still generally considered Eastern European. For the purposes of the US Census, they don't distinguish between White ethnicities save White Hispanic. So if you're Romanian, in the United States of America, you are White. Not Latino of "Hispanic". So, a Romanian would officially be considered White, Non-Hispanic / Non-Latino in the United States.

Conclusion: I don't know which misguided Romanians Mursenary claims to know in America my native land (I understand it), but I personally don't know of any Romanians in my country from the old country in Europe who think they are "Latino". The ones I know correctly view themselves as European, or American if they have acquired their citizenship. And in any event, the United States government certainly does not think of them as such (Latino). I rest. Case closed!

What about light skinned Phillipinos who are Spanish speakers? Are they Hispanic Latinos?

[Mr Ho]

"Latino" refers to people with ethnic origins relating to Latin America. Romania is squarely located in Eastern Europe and is significantly removed from anything related to the Americas. The Romanian language is derived from Latin, but that's a linguistic classification and has nothing to do with the ethnic make-up of Romanians vis-a-vis Latinos. If you search "Romanian ethnicity", you'll get a variety of results pointing to the Slavic, Baltic and slight Mediterranean mix, but that's still generally considered Eastern European. For the purposes of the US Census, they don't distinguish between White ethnicities save White Hispanic. So if you're Romanian, in the United States of America, you are White. Not Latino of "Hispanic". So, a Romanian would officially be considered White, Non-Hispanic / Non-Latino in the United States.

Conclusion: I don't know which misguided Romanians Mursenary claims to know in America my native land (I understand it), but I personally don't know of any Romanians in my country from the old country in Europe who think they are "Latino". The ones I know correctly view themselves as European, or American if they have acquired their citizenship. And in any event, the United States government certainly does not think of them as such (Latino). I rest. Case closed!

The case closed when they the stunner ones fuck, suck, lick us LOL! And a lot of them do, thanks for their economical failure and development as civilization, this gap in the society is where us monger can thrive LOL! The harsh reality and reason behind us living like some sex goddess of stunners LOL! And we are so calm when it comes to women as we know we can get it and we got it LOL!

[Mursenary]

"Latino" refers to people with ethnic origins relating to Latin America. Romania is squarely located in Eastern Europe and is significantly removed from anything related to the Americas. The Romanian language is derived from Latin, but that's a linguistic classification and has nothing to do with the ethnic make-up of Romanians vis-a-vis Latinos. If you search "Romanian ethnicity", you'll get a variety of results pointing to the Slavic, Baltic and slight Mediterranean mix, but that's still generally considered Eastern European. For the purposes of the US Census, they don't distinguish between White ethnicities save White Hispanic. So if you're Romanian, in the United States of America, you are White. Not Latino of "Hispanic". So, a Romanian would officially be considered White, Non-Hispanic / Non-Latino in the United States.

Conclusion: I don't know which misguided Romanians Mursenary claims to know in America my native land (I understand it), but I personally don't know of any Romanians in my country from the old country in Europe who think they are "Latino". The ones I know correctly view themselves as European, or American if they have acquired their citizenship. And in any event, the United States government certainly does not think of them as such (Latino). I rest. Case closed!

While no, I would not call them "Latinos" and "Latinas" because of the connotations attached to those terms, I recognize them to be "Latin" and so do they also often call themselves such. Ask a Romanian in America who understands the term "Latin" as it is used stateside and I'll bet you that half will say yes they are Latin.

Like I explicitly said in my posts numerous times, Latin not Latino. Glad you agree and Thanks for reiterating my point. No one said anything about being Latin American since you can be both Latin and European simultaneously. I believe your exclusive association of the term Latin with Latin America is the erroneous use of the term because it has been tainted by the Americanization of the word Latin.

Now the case is closed

[The Cane]

"Latino" refers to people with ethnic origins relating to Latin America. Romania is squarely located in Eastern Europe and is significantly removed from anything related to the Americas. The Romanian language is derived from Latin, but that's a linguistic classification and has nothing to do with the ethnic make-up of Romanians vis-a-vis Latinos. If you search "Romanian ethnicity", you'll get a variety of results pointing to the Slavic, Baltic and slight Mediterranean mix, but that's still generally considered Eastern European. For the purposes of the US Census, they don't distinguish between White ethnicities save White Hispanic. So if you're Romanian, in the United States of America, you are White. Not Latino of "Hispanic". So, a Romanian would officially be considered White, Non-Hispanic / Non-Latino in the United States.

Conclusion: I don't know which misguided Romanians Mursenary claims to know in America my native land (I understand it), but I personally don't know of any Romanians in my country from the old country in Europe who think they are "Latino". The ones I know correctly view themselves as European, or American if they have acquired their citizenship. And in any event, the United States government certainly does not think of them as such (Latino). I rest. Case closed!