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[Dufey]

An interesting discussion.

I think it is right that some workers can sense what a client is looking for and then instinctively provide it. This doesn't automatically translate into requests for money etc, but it does perhaps mean the client is more likely to say yes.

I have never been asked for a gift or money unless I am in contact with a girl between visits to FKK.

Optimist,

Thank you for your comments.

I think the situation is more prevalent for the girls that you do keep in contact between FKK visits as you are using time that is not paid for. You have a relationship with the girl that has extended beyond FKK.

I also found it rare, if at all, that a girl that I only see in the club or keep contact with inside the club setting asks for financial support or gifts or help in some way.

One German friend was asked to help one World girl escape her pimp by picking her up from the club and driving her to safety in another country where her brother was found to be staying.

[Dufey]

My ATF tells me how she was given a brand new luxury car. Surprisingly I have not been asked or perhaps I have not been buttered up enough for the request to come up. Some are really talented at understanding the male psyche and are successful at providing GFE that you can't separate fact from fiction as in GFE not just in the physical sense (DFK etc), but more importantly, mentally as well. You may think you are fucking her brains out but in reality she is the one doing the fucking.

Your experiences are welcome. I can see the merging of fact and fiction. I keep having to remind myself that these girls are not your wives or girlfriends and you owe them nothing. But sometimes when you go in deep, as you say, these girls can fuck with your brain.

I know one German man that was asked to pay for vet fees for the German girl's dog or a washing machine as it was broken. The amounts were not huge but then more than a man would pay in a FKK session for one hour and CIM if they so wanted that extra.

The girls can really fuck with your brain.

[Optimist]

An interesting discussion with good points by everybody

I think it is right that some workers can sense what a client is looking for and then instinctively provide it. This doesn't automatically translate into requests for money etc, but it does perhaps mean the client is more likely to say yes.

One thing which surprises me is that once a girl has established that connectionthen refusal never for me leads to the girl cutting off service. I have many times refused requests but this has never stopped the girl wanting to go with me, and sometimes eventually repeating the requests, to be followed by more refusals.As McAdonis says, repeat custom can add up to a sizeable financial transfer

Generally I feel that the request is a very calculated one, but that it is very separate from the normal service. In other words, I get the normal room service and refusal or agreement to a request has no impact. So, for this reason I rarely break off contact. After all the girls don't know whether I am rich or in fact earn less than them, so they are just trying their luck.Sometimes I will deal with it all in a lighthearted vein, telling them how old my car is and how little I earn.If I get a complaining worker like Dufey describes I never give a gift.

Even more complex are the very very rare situations where I offer a gift or money to a girl who has not asked, and she refuses to take the gift. Now, is this because they are manipulating me towards a greater gift, or because they genuinely don't like to take charity.In one case she eventually agreed to take a gift after several refusals . Maybe I was manipulated into making the offer by a worker who instinctively understood my feelings and thoughts and knew exactly how many refusals to make before I withdrew the offer.

I have never been asked for a gift or money unless I am in contact with a girl outside FKK.

[Dufey]

She must really think she has you wrapped around her finger, otherwise I don't think she would be bold enough to ask. Or she thinks you are ridiculously wealthy and you can purchase a Bucharest apartment like its a pack of cigarettes.

I would just tell her you're money is locked up in investments at the moment. Or you can always use humor to diffuse the situation--make up an elaborate story about how you will buy her a Caribbean island or something. She will realize you are joking--maybe it will become a running inside joke. If you stick with "my money is locked up", it's a plausible excuse though. Eventually she will stop asking you. Either way I don't think it matters, I doubt any bridges will be burned or her service will deteriorate.

I assume that you've paid her thousands of euros and invested a lot of hours in room-time. I have a feeling the girl who propositioned you is smart business woman. If so, she wants to maintain the relationship because you've probably already paid her what would amount to a down payment on her Bucharest apartment. If that's the case, then subtly remind her that fact. If anybody is worried about burning bridges, it should be her. But I may be injecting too much of my own personal feelings toward this. If a girl asked me for gifts, it'd be a turn-off and it would kill the illusion factor.

McAdonis,

I went along your approach saying that all money was tied up in my investments or in apartments that I had bought. So I had no spare money.

The cost of an apartment in Bucharest was not so much money but she spends most of her time in the clubs so I was wondering with her whether it was better to get an apartment in country instead. She said that it was too much money to buy locally near the club. It was better in Bucharest. I could not recall if she was from Bucharest or maybe from Craiova or Brasov or Timosora.

She was a bit bold to even say that I could take a loan out on my apartments or investments to give to her. So she was not totally an initiate when it came to financial matters.

I think she was chancing it as many girls will chance it with asking for tips at the end of a session or asking for a tip up front before going to the room.

Indeed, over the months I have spent thousands of euro on the girl and she does a genuinely good session for me doing all the naughty things I like but she does not like anal that much and only does to please me per her words. Indeed she does look in pain when my cock is in her arsehole, asking only that I hurry up and come rather than prolong the anal fucking. I wonder if this is what Sirioja means by rude sex?

So all in all, I have paid probably the deposit on the Bucharest apartment but she does not seem to have any money. Complaining how she is always broke. She claims she has no pimp now that her penalty has been paid off.

I agree that a girl asking for tips and gifts can be a turn off but if you have feelings for a girl then it is hard to say no and have perspective if you have no one like you doing this hobby and can explain to them what is happening to make sure that you do not do things on a whim. I mean if a man has his own money with no calls on those assets like wives or children or other dependents then it can be easy to fritter cash away with nothing else to spend their money on.

[Dufey]

Something similar happened to me last week at Oase with a very hot girl with extremely dynamic sexual energy and erotic skills: After I'd sessioned with her two or three visits running, she suddenly talked about me giving her presents and luxury items as gifts, etc. So on my very next visit I rewarded her with: 2 x Davidoff Gold Slims, and a double Snickers choclate bar. Wow: Unparelleled sex followed afterwards! Well worth the investment.

Well, that is one way of handling the situation.

Do you correspond with her outside of your club visits or only on club visits when she pitches to you her services, that is, your only contact is when you are in the club?

[Ortos]

This may not always happen to guys in the clubs. So if not then please move on.

Tonight I was asked for a large sum of euro to purchase an apartment in Bucharest for a club girl. This is not the first time I have heard this. I was wondering how often the girls ask guys and what guys do to handle the situation without burning the bridges.

I know some guys give financial support to some girls. Maybe in the hundreds of euro and some in the thousands of euro when asked. The guys do it out of affiliation or "love or affection" which is the legal terminology.

Something similar happened to me last week at Oase with a very hot girl with extremely dynamic sexual energy and erotic skills: After I'd sessioned with her two or three visits running, she suddenly talked about me giving her presents and luxury items as gifts, etc. So on my very next visit I rewarded her with: 2 x Davidoff Gold Slims, and a double Snickers choclate bar. Wow: Unparelleled sex followed afterwards! Well worth the investment.

[PussyLiccker]

My ATF tells me how she was given a brand new luxury car. Surprisingly I have not been asked or perhaps I have not been buttered up enough for the request to come up. Some are really talented at understanding the male psyche and are successful at providing GFE that you can't separate fact from fiction as in GFE not just in the physical sense (DFK etc), but more importantly, mentally as well. You may think you are fucking her brains out but in reality she is the one doing the fucking.

For sure. I think some just have greater instincts, and comes naturally. I have met some girls like that, and call them gems. I think it partly has to do with how the man is receptive to it. Some are just not cut out for the work too. Many men speak of mechanical sessions and etc. And perhaps it's not something that comes so natural for some of the girls. I've had sessions that I could not get myself to think that she could possibly service other clients in such a manner, but then reality comes a knockin. So convincing. Not a bad thing at all, it's something we pay for, and they try to provide what we seek. Some read minds better than others. Pretty smart when it comes to that. A girl that was pretty high in the illusion factor told me she can feel what the client likes and it's her job. I don't even think she has that much experience either.

[McAdonis]

The funniest one was a girl asking me for $50 k to pay for the uninsured Mustang she totaled. She wasn't even hurt!

I would have offered to chip in for a bus pass.

[McAdonis]

Tonight I was asked for a large sum of euro to purchase an apartment in Bucharest for a club girl. This is not the first time I have heard this. The money is there since an apartment in Bucharest is not an overly large sum of money. It is not going to happen. I was wondering how often the girls ask guys and what guys do to handle the situation without burning the bridges.

She must really think she has you wrapped around her finger, otherwise I don't think she would be bold enough to ask. Or she thinks you are ridiculously wealthy and you can purchase a Bucharest apartment like its a pack of cigarettes.

I would just tell her you're money is locked up in investments at the moment. Or you can always use humor to diffuse the situation--make up an elaborate story about how you will buy her a Caribbean island or something. She will realize you are joking--maybe it will become a running inside joke. If you stick with "my money is locked up", it's a plausible excuse though. Eventually she will stop asking you. Either way I don't think it matters, I doubt any bridges will be burned or her service will deteriorate.

I assume that you've paid her thousands of euros and invested a lot of hours in room-time. I have a feeling the girl who propositioned you is smart business woman. If so, she wants to maintain the relationship because you've probably already paid her what would amount to a down payment on her Bucharest apartment. If that's the case, then subtly remind her that fact. If anybody is worried about burning bridges, it should be her. But I may be injecting too much of my own personal feelings toward this. If a girl asked me for gifts, it'd be a turn-off and it would kill the illusion factor.

[Trans Atlantic]

This may not always happen to guys in the clubs. So if not then please move on.

Tonight I was asked for a large sum of euro to purchase an apartment in Bucharest for a club girl. This is not the first time I have heard this. The money is there since an apartment in Bucharest is not an overly large sum of money. It is not going to happen. I was wondering how often the girls ask guys and what guys do to handle the situation without burning the bridges.

I know some guys give financial support to some girls. Maybe in the hundreds of euro and some in the thousands of euro when asked. The guys do it out of affiliation or "love or affection" which is the legal terminology.

I even heard of a Cocaine NL as Sirioja describes them paying a girl to not work in the club.

My ATF tells me how she was given a brand new luxury car. Surprisingly I have not been asked or perhaps I have not been buttered up enough for the request to come up. Some are really talented at understanding the male psyche and are successful at providing GFE that you can't separate fact from fiction as in GFE not just in the physical sense (DFK etc), but more importantly, mentally as well. You may think you are fucking her brains out but in reality she is the one doing the fucking.

[PussyLiccker]

This may not always happen to guys in the clubs. So if not then please move on.

Tonight I was asked for a large sum of euro to purchase an apartment in Bucharest for a club girl. This is not the first time I have heard this. The money is there since an apartment in Bucharest is not an overly large sum of money. It is not going to happen. I was wondering how often the girls ask guys and what guys do to handle the situation without burning the bridges.

I know some guys give financial support to some girls. Maybe in the hundreds of euro and some in the thousands of euro when asked. The guys do it out of affiliation or "love or affection" which is the legal terminology.

I even heard of a Cocaine NL as Sirioja describes them paying a girl to not work in the club.

Asking for a large sum sounds ridiculous to me, but then again relationship probably started with money if she is a club girl. Given she works at a club, there's got to be good number of clients, and a portion she keeps in contact with. Likely, she will ask those that has potential to sugar daddy her. Just my guess. And luck could have it that she find just that. I bet there are girls meet these type of men in clubs that spend exuberant amount her for her to figure out that he may provide more than money for sex. I have heard of guys that buy girls smartphones, and the girl will tell me that. I have been suggested to buy her a iphone by showing me her pitiful phone. Same girl showed me a ring a client that was obviously infactuated her. If the guy has the money to sugar a girl, hey it's his money, and he can do whatever he wish. As far as the outcome with the WG, he'd have to find out. For some guys, what he buys or provides a girl is probably a chump change. He'd find a girl he sugar for awhile, and move on, and etc..

Some of these girls can put on a pretty good illusion in and outside the room. I have met one that did that quite well, and for some girls easier, and probably more natural for them with all kinds of men. Depending on the interaction it gives a man a feeling of being liked, or feeling particularly special or different. An illusion.

I have heard guys providing assistance to girls in return for her to hang out and provide sexual services. Like for example a student in one of the poorest European country going to school or whatever and looking for supplementary fund to pay for things.

[Hessen Bub]

Same question every year. Some girls will be on holiday. Some girls already returned. There will be more girls than you can fuck in one week.

HB.

[FredZee]

My friends insist on visiting the FKK clubs when they are renown to be at their weakest. So see some tourists in high Summer August time and the period in between Christmas and New Years in the clubs complaining that the line ups are awful and that we are only here to relax and not to be bothered by girls since they are a distraction.

We go out of our way to visit at the bad times. No one wants to go when the line ups are at their best. No reason for it they say.

Its really work that is taking me to the Frankfurt area during this time. So, not a matter of picking a good or bad time as its just the luck of the work schedule. Good or bad. Having said that, any preference order or its pretty much all the same, not as good as it would be any other time outside of the summer months?

[Banana Boi]

I even heard of a Cocaine NL as Sirioja describes them paying a girl to not work in the club.

I know a guy who booked a Hungarian dancer for every hour every shift my dancer worked. That's A LOT of money at $400 per hour! He did this so no one else could touch her. She hated him so much but it was easy money. After her shift should would take my friends and I to dinner. LOL.

I've been asked for money by tons of Hungarians and Romanians over the years where I usually hobby. The most common story was medical problems for their sibings back home or money to bring their siblings over. The funniest one was a girl asking me for $50 k to pay for the uninsured Mustang she totaled. She wasn't even hurt!

[Dufey]

This may not always happen to guys in the clubs. So if not then please move on.

Tonight I was asked for a large sum of euro to purchase an apartment in Bucharest for a club girl. This is not the first time I have heard this. The money is there since an apartment in Bucharest is not an overly large sum of money. It is not going to happen. I was wondering how often the girls ask guys and what guys do to handle the situation without burning the bridges.

I know some guys give financial support to some girls. Maybe in the hundreds of euro and some in the thousands of euro when asked. The guys do it out of affiliation or "love or affection" which is the legal terminology.

I even heard of a Cocaine NL as Sirioja describes them paying a girl to not work in the club.