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  1. #12565
    Quote Originally Posted by Polyamorist  [View Original Post]
    The problem happens when the pimps tell the girls things like, "Don't kiss the customers," or "I am your true boyfriend so you have to give second-class sex to everybody else. " This is when the culture becomes really unhealthy, and I see too much of it in Europe lately, so that is why I, and I think some other mongers, are giving up on Europe and turning to places like South America -- where there are also lots of pimps, but at least they aren't so hostile to the regular guys.

    I think the FKKs offered an alternative to this unhealthy culture in Europe for a decade, but they have been invaded and undermined by it over the past few years.
    Yes, but I think it is more for business purposes, meaning they slice and cut each actions of sex as products to maximize their profitability.

    Having said that, when they do this too much like they began doing recently, then some clients may just find alternative like Zurich because prices are becoming same if up sell get too extreme.

    Either way, mongers got to do what we got to do and girls do have to make money, and I must say, so far, it has been partly mongers paranoia and service is OK after some negotiation. I have turn one hour session or longer session to 30 min 50 euro just bang hard cum session because some girls are asking too much just in their favor, but this is rare case and girls are still fair enough. Arguably LOL.

    I want sex, I am willing to pay, girls just want money, that is why FKK is there for and that is why girls are in FKK to work, so both side of interest must be supported. If this is the case I am willing to pay up to some extent, which I called mild up selling.

    However, some mongers seek for more than sex like some emotional feeling of some sort, this for the girls are most complicated clients and some of those clients has done some crazy things in FKK history like stalking, even murder few years ago. It is scary thing when some clients begin to make mistake about the purpose of FKK, it is sexual wonderland and not for relationship or emotional connections with girls who are working there.

    In closing, I do know that there are some cases where some clients married FKK girls, so I guess it is each their own too, but I do think that there are pimps and loverboys who makes bases for the business model in FKK, so it is not just girls we are dealing with, but we also deal with pimps and loverboys indirectly.

    When we dig deep, it is little bit funny to realize what kind of funny food chain we are involving in being mongers LOL!. Happy hunting!

  2. #12564
    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    Yes, what I also realized is the platform for girls to come and work in German FKK because it is not so easy to just move to foreign land to work in brothel, so girls need little push or support from behind for her to go all the way to Germany to work in FKK. This is not healthy culture because those platforms are pimps or lover boys or related group of people, but we monger have to realize that we do benefit from these guys as much as we benefit them. Synergy effect.
    The problem happens when the pimps tell the girls things like, "Don't kiss the customers," or "I am your true boyfriend so you have to give second-class sex to everybody else. " This is when the culture becomes really unhealthy, and I see too much of it in Europe lately, so that is why I, and I think some other mongers, are giving up on Europe and turning to places like South America -- where there are also lots of pimps, but at least they aren't so hostile to the regular guys.

    I think the FKKs offered an alternative to this unhealthy culture in Europe for a decade, but they have been invaded and undermined by it over the past few years.

  3. #12563
    Quote Originally Posted by Lanthano  [View Original Post]
    That may be what ends up happening. However I'm not sure if the living standards in all of Eastern Europe has caught up yet to stop the inflow. Plenty of new girls still keep arriving from what I can see in places like Oase.

    Ultimately it's not just economics but on the micro-level the life-choices of a small set of the females in the countries in question. Keep in mind that there are still plenty of GERMAN girls that do work in these clubs for fair rates and with good service levels. The fact that that has not dried up is telling.


    Just earned my TWO STARS! HOORAH!
    Sorry but in which club can you find plenty of German girls? I just know some German girls in Shark, new girls arriving in Oase are not new girls in the business they are usually coming from other clubs or from Spain, Ireland.

  4. #12562
    Quote Originally Posted by Lanthano  [View Original Post]
    That may be what ends up happening. However I'm not sure if the living standards in all of Eastern Europe has caught up yet to stop the inflow. Plenty of new girls still keep arriving from what I can see in places like Oase.

    Ultimately it's not just economics but on the micro-level the life-choices of a small set of the females in the countries in question. Keep in mind that there are still plenty of GERMAN girls that do work in these clubs for fair rates and with good service levels. The fact that that has not dried up is telling.


    Just earned my TWO STARS! HOORAH!
    Yes, what I also realized is the platform for girls to come and work in German FKK because it is not so easy to just move to foreign land to work in brothel, so girls need little push or support from behind for her to go all the way to Germany to work in FKK. This is not healthy culture because those platforms are pimps or lover boys or related group of people, but we monger have to realize that we do benefit from these guys as much as we benefit them. Synergy effect.

    German girls? Where? Let me know LOL! Ok, only kidding, I know there still are some German girls, but much less than before and less prettier, but I guess line up is cycle, some year we mongers get lucky, some year we are not so lucky.

    Talking again about platforms as I mentioned above paragraph. During Greek financial crisis, I was hoping some Greek girls will come and work in FKK, but contrary to my hope and expectation, I did not really find greek girls in FKK during that period and after, I met only one greek girl in FKK that was beautiful enough for me to session with, so I guess platform is important for girls to come and work in FKK and such platform was not really there in the nation like Greece, but there is such platform in nation like Romania. Let us hope there will be more and more of those platforms and I will be waiting till Ukrainian girls to come to German FKK soon or later if they can join EU or some visa agreement with EU.

  5. #12561
    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    Jack of all trades are the essence of German FKK with heavy concentration on Romanians.

    I would wish FKK will get more local German girls like it once used to, if not I hope Ukraine join EU or some other nations in eastern Europe will manage to join some kind of visa agreement to work in Germany.
    That may be what ends up happening. However I'm not sure if the living standards in all of Eastern Europe has caught up yet to stop the inflow. Plenty of new girls still keep arriving from what I can see in places like Oase.

    Ultimately it's not just economics but on the micro-level the life-choices of a small set of the females in the countries in question. Keep in mind that there are still plenty of GERMAN girls that do work in these clubs for fair rates and with good service levels. The fact that that has not dried up is telling.


    Just earned my TWO STARS! HOORAH!

  6. #12560
    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    I met half Saudi and half Filipino Eurasian in manila at KTV called queens castle. And as for half Persians, I find them back home sometimes because Japan and Iran has good relation and many Iranian people came to work in Japan mostly as construction workers and had babies. However, no matter where you go, Eurasians are hard to find, but if you dig deep, they are there and indeed, many of them are really good mix and turn out to be truly beautiful.

    As for German FKK, as I wrote before, I met one half Vietnamese and German girl in Artemis, I think in winter 2015. This girl was real beauty and new in the industry that she did not know what she was doing in room, so I had liberty to do what I wanted in room. However, she was the only Eurasian I saw in German FKK that I thought is beautiful. I enjoy other good mix in German FKK sometimes like half German half middle eastern etc. These mixes are also very beautiful and exotic.
    Eurasian means Europe and Asia not Saudi, Iran, mostly impossible to find a real Eurasian girl in a club may be in some VIP escort agencies.

  7. #12559
    Quote Originally Posted by Sybarite2006  [View Original Post]
    Interesting -- I agree mixed-race girls are beautiful. Where did you meet this half-Saudi and half-Filipino girl? In Germany? How about the half-Persian?
    I met half Saudi and half Filipino Eurasian in manila at KTV called queens castle. And as for half Persians, I find them back home sometimes because Japan and Iran has good relation and many Iranian people came to work in Japan mostly as construction workers and had babies. However, no matter where you go, Eurasians are hard to find, but if you dig deep, they are there and indeed, many of them are really good mix and turn out to be truly beautiful.

    As for German FKK, as I wrote before, I met one half Vietnamese and German girl in Artemis, I think in winter 2015. This girl was real beauty and new in the industry that she did not know what she was doing in room, so I had liberty to do what I wanted in room. However, she was the only Eurasian I saw in German FKK that I thought is beautiful. I enjoy other good mix in German FKK sometimes like half German half middle eastern etc. These mixes are also very beautiful and exotic.

  8. #12558

    Mr. Ho.

    Interesting -- I agree mixed-race girls are beautiful. Where did you meet this half-Saudi and half-Filipino girl? In Germany? How about the half-Persian?

  9. #12557

    Oase or Sharks? Which is Less Sharky?

    Planning to Visit the Frankfurt FKK's after a long time. My Last Visit was not too impressed with the Line-Up in Sharks. Didn't attempt to go to OASE because of the Negative Talk about it being Sharky than ever before. So currently which place has more beautiful faces and is less sharky? Oase or Sharks?

  10. #12556
    Quote Originally Posted by Polyamorist  [View Original Post]
    Funny you should bring this up, as I was just brooding recently over how well agriculture is organized compared to prostitution. Every cow gets a fair milking, and none is milked to exhaustion. How strange our system of sex is then, where about 2% of our girls are in the brothels getting fucked ten times a day -- to the point where they are quite bored with it and have to fake orgasms -- while meanwhile there are many pretty young women going neurotic for want of sex, and many more just giving it away to lowlifes -- milk flowing down the drain, basically! If only the taboos and stigmas around sex could be eliminated, the system would be ten times better.

    As for cards, I don't see why that is such a big deal, as I myself will give my own card out to girls when there is sympathy. I admit it doesn't include my measurements, but I don't like to blow my own trumpet -- I let the girls do that.
    Sorry but the dream of most of the woman or girls is not to get fucked several times a day by any kind of guy.

  11. #12555
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    This is too funny! Where did we read about the SJW's complaining about how we measure women on these forums comparably to how farmers measure cows on the local farmers market now? A comparison so ridiculous and insane that we just got to go all in and troll the hell out of it!.
    Funny you should bring this up, as I was just brooding recently over how well agriculture is organized compared to prostitution. Every cow gets a fair milking, and none is milked to exhaustion. How strange our system of sex is then, where about 2% of our girls are in the brothels getting fucked ten times a day -- to the point where they are quite bored with it and have to fake orgasms -- while meanwhile there are many pretty young women going neurotic for want of sex, and many more just giving it away to lowlifes -- milk flowing down the drain, basically! If only the taboos and stigmas around sex could be eliminated, the system would be ten times better.

    As for cards, I don't see why that is such a big deal, as I myself will give my own card out to girls when there is sympathy. I admit it doesn't include my measurements, but I don't like to blow my own trumpet -- I let the girls do that.

  12. #12554
    Quote Originally Posted by Zumboit  [View Original Post]
    The girls should hand out cards, with pictures and stats. Imagine the collection we would have.
    Haha, LOL!

    This is too funny! Where did we read about the SJW's complaining about how we measure women on these forums comparably to how farmers measure cows on the local farmers market now? A comparison so ridiculous and insane that we just got to go all in and troll the hell out of it!

    So I totally agree! It would be hilarious! And the girls should be in on it too considering the joke would be all in the face of the hedonist gods that the SJW's pray to!

    (Not that SWJ is a good term to be used for them considering it has nothing to do regarding justice, but at least its a term).

  13. #12553

    Player Cards.

    The girls should hand out cards, with pictures and stats. Imagine the collection we would have.

  14. #12552
    Quote Originally Posted by TankTank123  [View Original Post]
    I have found that sarcasm and irony does not work most of the time with the Japanese and the French. It works with Germans who are fluent in English. English catch it straight away; Americans half the time, depending on which parts of the States they are from.
    Sarcasm or jealousy? I'm pretty sure more of jealousy at World, to need so much to speak about a guy to a girl, and to need to write several times about without knowing anything. As wrote a Japanese so jealous about Raïssa, second hand was then sitting waiting whole a mid July 2015 Saturday night, when I already stopped with Raïssa. Furthermore, I would have chosen her 100 times to make her jump to mirror, or for diner, rather than Raïssa even she was one of the loveliest for her behavior out of room, but no spark for me. But I marry girls only for the best. When she was not able to understand but I made deep pain for me when I stopped with my best ever in FKK land, at LR, when we had a great last Friday, but I couldn t anymore look at her like a woman, then she could ask: You don't like me anymore? She asked many times. But not same image, no more desire.

  15. #12551
    Quote Originally Posted by Takedown  [View Original Post]
    Language of sarcasm is language of subtlety. Flies over heads. LOL.
    I have found that sarcasm and irony does not work most of the time with the Japanese and the French. It works with Germans who are fluent in English. English catch it straight away; Americans half the time, depending on which parts of the States they are from.

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