German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[Sirioja]

Maybe, she has classic beauty look. Supposed to be law student in Romania, she says. And yes, white skin and master piece natural tits, good right size big and all natural, I think she had zero tattoo. I took her and rose together because I kinda liked white skin natural blonde girl and tanned sportive fit body exotic Hungarian rose together sucking my dick. It was nice view under morning light as I kept the curtain open a bit.

Never saw her in GT though.

I had girl named not Florentina I think, but Fiorentina who worked in GT, she also worked in Artemis with name Coco. She supposed to be half Greek and Albanian from cologne. She was also real exotic beauty who looked like she is half Arab and half white and half Mexican and half white. Maybe Florentina and Fiorentina is different girl? In FKK, I never bother too much with their fake names especially they often move around in clubs to clubs.

Not so sure ex Luana LR who moved to GT, becoming Florentina, is really natural blond, but natural masterpiece tits, milky skin and no big tattoos, at least she is natural beauty. Romanian. She moved to GT on 2018, like some of other LR girls, but Rose still at LR.

[Akibono]

OK as for Artemis, it is fair enough. I stopped going there in 2015 and switch to Hessen, then I mixed land in Frankfurt, then move on to nrw region via ice train in one trip, doing FKK in both regions. I did so because stunners in line up of Artemis began to disappear from 2014 ish and 2015 visit made me, OK what am I doing here, then kept distance.

However, I do have good knowledge of how Artemis works, I mean I went there rapidly from 2009 till 2015 spending around 10 k euro per trip just for girls including entrance. As for recent trend, this is something I do not know though what I am seeking to find out is if it went back to more or less how it was line up wise. Meaning, mostly plastic older monsters, but you do find few stunner level beautiful girls between those monster girls.

Either way, I think keeping lounge and chat more liberal place is better for each one of us, if some post may not suit you, just skip it. Because administrations do filter many posts here and we do not need more self volunteer police or administrators I think..

Four year old experience are just that. Stale and useless in a field where six months is an eternity.

[Mr Ho]

Maybe Luana now Florentina at GT, for your blond, white skin and masterpiece tits. Never heard of sisters at LR.

Maybe, she has classic beauty look. Supposed to be law student in Romania, she says. And yes, white skin and master piece natural tits, good right size big and all natural, I think she had zero tattoo. I took her and rose together because I kinda liked white skin natural blonde girl and tanned sportive fit body exotic Hungarian rose together sucking my dick. It was nice view under morning light as I kept the curtain open a bit.

Never saw her in GT though.

I had girl named not Florentina I think, but Fiorentina who worked in GT, she also worked in Artemis with name Coco. She supposed to be half Greek and Albanian from cologne. She was also real exotic beauty who looked like she is half Arab and half white and half Mexican and half white. Maybe Florentina and Fiorentina is different girl? In FKK, I never bother too much with their fake names especially they often move around in clubs to clubs.

[Mr Ho]

I was not pointing fingers at you specifically but you actually proved the point of my post. Making comments on how great a place is when you haven't been there in 4 years imo is ludicrous. Met a guy who told me and McA how great Brazil is then we find out he hadn't been for 8 years. Met another guy who told me Dubrovnik was the best then we find out he last visited 20+ years ago! How relevant is that info to the current scene?

The problem with posting information that is not current is that many guys who read these posts are not as knowledgeable as you are. They may only have a couple of days in Germany. If you post outdated information they may rely on your post to go to a specific club that used to be good but no longer is good.

OK as for Artemis, it is fair enough. I stopped going there in 2015 and switch to Hessen, then I mixed land in Frankfurt, then move on to nrw region via ice train in one trip, doing FKK in both regions. I did so because stunners in line up of Artemis began to disappear from 2014 ish and 2015 visit made me, OK what am I doing here, then kept distance.

However, I do have good knowledge of how Artemis works, I mean I went there rapidly from 2009 till 2015 spending around 10 k euro per trip just for girls including entrance. As for recent trend, this is something I do not know though what I am seeking to find out is if it went back to more or less how it was line up wise. Meaning, mostly plastic older monsters, but you do find few stunner level beautiful girls between those monster girls.

Either way, I think keeping lounge and chat more liberal place is better for each one of us, if some post may not suit you, just skip it. Because administrations do filter many posts here and we do not need more self volunteer police or administrators I think.

All in all, Artemis seems to catch up with line up recently by looking at recent report and I am glad I am going back this late summer to try it out once again. It was my first FKK I visited, so a lot of memories there. As for upsell, it seems it got stronger, but Artemis was always upsell club, it is just that after major police raid and false indictment of owner of Artemis, and with new law, management got more weak on grip over girls because I think management is bit scared and they do not want another such police raid again. After all, that police raid happened originating from one of the girl working there tipping information to police, which turned out to be mostly false accusation.

[McAdonis]

The best customers for WGs are the men who make a hundred to 120 grand a year but spend 40 of that on prostitutes and clubs

Spending a third of their gross income on WGs? There are even more extreme examples than this. Someone who makes 50 grand a year can spend 80 grand per year on prostitutes. It can be done by liquidating all assets, (property, investments, inheritances, bank accounts) and then going on a 5-20 year spending spree.

The monger who I heard about is a number cruncher and the frugal type. Prior to falling for his current FKK wife, he was exclusively a 50 EUR guy. From what I heard, he has flirted the idea with selling off everything and depleting the nest egg. Given his frugal lifestyle, he believes he can subsist on his state pension. I suspect he would even be willing move to a country with lower cost of living for retirement. I will not pass judgement. I do not know what men's life circumstances are. And I cannot argue with his primary point, which is he cannot take that money with him to the grave. And he has nobody to leave that money to.

[Sirioja]

Exotic type girl, I like Rose. Very sportive body, she claim she works out and I believe her by looking at her body, small face, somehow bit oriental though she is 100% Hungarian, very structured face with big eye, long neck and all natural fit body and really good service.

White type girl: I liked this blonde girl from Romania. I cannot recall her name, most of time, I do not bother to remember or sometimes even ask her name, but she is natural blonde, beautiful natural breast, quite big breast, shaped nice, she is white Romanian blonde, no tattoo, apparently law student and good service. Once I told Sirioja this before and he mentioned couple of names. Good service.

Another white type girl: It was one of the sister, I think and they do not lookalike. She was Romanian who was introduced to by one of the poster here, I will not say his name for his privacy, but he is welcome to jump in if he read this post. She was also natural body, blonde, but I think this one is colored blonde. Good service.

However, I do not think LR is stunner club optically, you do get lucky once in awhile, but it is not same level of stunner you find like in palace or Artemis in early 2010's. I think LR is more younger, natural girls, with limited or no tattoo and they provide good service for just 50 euro per 30 min, you go loner it even get much better. It is only club you will get DFK that easily in 50 euro 30 min session. I think LR serve me as this kinda club..

Maybe Luana now Florentina at GT, for your blond, white skin and masterpiece tits. Never heard of sisters at LR.

[Menter]

GT is just the best business for girls in Germany. A Hungarian from Sharks, real fire in bed, prefers GT business than everything for 50 at Sharks with night clients there, and she asked for pleasure in bed. A really bloody room with her, she screamed when she saw my Hanibal Lecter face. LR girls who are now at GT, seem happy about their new business, even those who said they didn't like GT when they were at LR, but money talk and change girls, only Amira preferred to stay at LR. Even German Mio touring at Globe, regret GT, but she can t work anymore because she doesn't want to register.

I fucked Mio last week in Globe. She liked my 260 Euro instead of 100 Euro for an hour at GT. And she told me, that she is very happy with the Swiss guys at Globe.

But you are right, she told me, that she also liked GT with the garden and with the friendly and generous Dutchmen (it's a big market at the border, there are some people, who underestimate that fact).

And Amira (and Nelly) at LR, yes they make big money, because sometimes they have clients with 5-10 hour bookings.

But in the end, good Girls must make more money in Globe than GT or LR or Sharks, because of the prices (despite the new discount fuck without kisses at Globe).

(Maybe I don't know every tax regulation).

[Pessimist]

I was not pointing fingers at you specifically but you actually proved the point of my post. Making comments on how great a place is when you haven't been there in 4 years imo is ludicrous. Met a guy who told me and McA how great Brazil is then we find out he hadn't been for 8 years. Met another guy who told me Dubrovnik was the best then we find out he last visited 20+ years ago! How relevant is that info to the current scene?

The problem with posting information that is not current is that many guys who read these posts are not as knowledgeable as you are. They may only have a couple of days in Germany. If you post outdated information they may rely on your post to go to a specific club that used to be good but no longer is good.

There is a lot of logic and truth in what you say but it is a bit tricky.

Ideally, yes it is true that if members who make comments on specific girls and clubs would disclose some additional info such as when they last visited, how many times they have been with that girl or at that club etc, it would be immensely helpful. But that is something up to each member. This forum remains one where we all write on a voluntary basis, and it is probably better to write too much than to write too little. A forum where rules are so strict and one has to put boilerplate legalese around fun reports and expresses views may lead to reduced participation and we all agree that's not a good outcome.

There is a strong dose of caveat emptor in these scenarios. Any experienced and sensible monger would read multiple reports, do a lot of research and also keep in mind that there is a degree of uncertainty and randomness in his choice. No one report can guarantee anything - - not even multiple recent and well informed reports can. His taste may well be different from that of the writers whose advice he followed, for example.

If the monger is a newbie and did not do enough research and followed a single report that happened to be outdated and has a bad experience, I say tough luck but that is also a valuable lesson and a good thing. He would learn the value of proper due diligence and would be careful in the future.

Optimist wrote a report 3 days ago about Sharks. He went earlier in the day and immediately several members pulled him up that he went at a bad time and was misleading. My point, even if the report is so real time and came from a well traveled monger as him, there is still context around each report. Any experienced man would know this when following anonymous advice and recommendations on internet. Or he should. This is true for mongering tips and anything else on internet.

[Banana Boi]

Let this lounge and chat be liberal, instead of pointing fingers at other people will you? I mean we are just chatting here, not debating in court room pointing finger at each other as you do like in Pattaya forum or this forum or whatever. So what if someone has been once and he has opinion about club, I just read it and I may learn something fresh from him. I think everyone is entitled to their opinion about clubs or place and I am glad to listen to his opinion.

I was not pointing fingers at you specifically but you actually proved the point of my post. Making comments on how great a place is when you haven't been there in 4 years imo is ludicrous. Met a guy who told me and McA how great Brazil is then we find out he hadn't been for 8 years. Met another guy who told me Dubrovnik was the best then we find out he last visited 20+ years ago! How relevant is that info to the current scene?

The problem with posting information that is not current is that many guys who read these posts are not as knowledgeable as you are. They may only have a couple of days in Germany. If you post outdated information they may rely on your post to go to a specific club that used to be good but no longer is good.

[Sirioja]

For girls maybe GT is a promotion, but I am not so sure. For guys it is a demotion having to go there nowadays.

GT is just the best business for girls in Germany. A Hungarian from Sharks, real fire in bed, prefers GT business than everything for 50 at Sharks with night clients there, and she asked for pleasure in bed. A really bloody room with her, she screamed when she saw my Hanibal Lecter face. LR girls who are now at GT, seem happy about their new business, even those who said they didn't like GT when they were at LR, but money talk and change girls, only Amira preferred to stay at LR. Even German Mio touring at Globe, regret GT, but she can t work anymore because she doesn't want to register.

[Mr Ho]

Can I ask when you were last at each of Palace and Artemis? I find on ISG, at least in the Pattaya forum, there are so many frequent posters who have strong opinions of a club but when you read between the lines you find out they have not been to that club or even Pattaya in 2 years or only went once or twice ever to that club.

Well Palace last February, been there since 2015, I make one to three trips per year to Germany just for FKK. Usually each trip ranging from minimum 5 FKK days to 10 FKK days, max was 14 FKK days. During trip, I go to FKK everyday. This FKK trips began since 2009 when I first discover FKK Artemis.

My last visit to Artemis was 2015, went from 2009 till 2015, I stopped from 2015 due to lack of stunner in line up, switch to Hessen and nrw. I thought I will never return to Artemis, but this late summer, I am returning to Artemis and Artemis only trip to see if things changed back to how it used to be in early 2010's.

Is this going to turn into another one has not been enough to FKK, or I am more experienced in FKK than you or Pattaya as you mention etc debate? LOL. I mean I am fly in monger and I cannot go everyday from here to German FKK man. It is so for many fly in mongers posters here too, I fly 12 hours man just for FKK.

Let this lounge and chat be liberal, instead of pointing fingers at other people will you? I mean we are just chatting here, not debating in court room pointing finger at each other as you do like in Pattaya forum or this forum or whatever. So what if someone has been once and he has opinion about club, I just read it and I may learn something fresh from him. I think everyone is entitled to their opinion about clubs or place and I am glad to listen to his opinion.

Like there are clubs I only been once. Like Oase and Globe, but even with those two clubs, I do have my own opinion too, can't I have one?

[Banana Boi]

there are real stunners in both palace and Artemis.

Can I ask when you were last at each of Palace and Artemis? I find on ISG, at least in the Pattaya forum, there are so many frequent posters who have strong opinions of a club but when you read between the lines you find out they have not been to that club or even Pattaya in 2 years or only went once or twice ever to that club.

[Mr Ho]

In your opinion, who is the best looking girl at Living Room? And what number would you give her for optics and for service?

Exotic type girl, I like Rose. Very sportive body, she claim she works out and I believe her by looking at her body, small face, somehow bit oriental though she is 100% Hungarian, very structured face with big eye, long neck and all natural fit body and really good service.

White type girl: I liked this blonde girl from Romania. I cannot recall her name, most of time, I do not bother to remember or sometimes even ask her name, but she is natural blonde, beautiful natural breast, quite big breast, shaped nice, she is white Romanian blonde, no tattoo, apparently law student and good service. Once I told Sirioja this before and he mentioned couple of names. Good service.

Another white type girl: It was one of the sister, I think and they do not lookalike. She was Romanian who was introduced to by one of the poster here, I will not say his name for his privacy, but he is welcome to jump in if he read this post. She was also natural body, blonde, but I think this one is colored blonde. Good service.

However, I do not think LR is stunner club optically, you do get lucky once in awhile, but it is not same level of stunner you find like in palace or Artemis in early 2010's. I think LR is more younger, natural girls, with limited or no tattoo and they provide good service for just 50 euro per 30 min, you go loner it even get much better. It is only club you will get DFK that easily in 50 euro 30 min session. I think LR serve me as this kinda club.

GT on the other end, I found bit more stunner and level of stunner is same level that you would find in Artemis and palace, but problem is they are booked mostly whole day, so hard to get them into room. And GT clearly has over crowded issues of mongers.

It is odd thing to say, but oddly, I also find Oceans to be best optic stunner to be possibly found club in nrw, it is close to center, and is upsell club, but again more beautiful girls get drawn to the club where they can maximize their superior beauty to other girls, so they tend to gather more to near city center upsell club? This is something I began to notice.

[Pessimist]

Pessimist's post offers some perspective. Financial priorities matter: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2325359.

Income is only one variable. All things being equal, a single, childless bachelors who are approaching retirement can spend more money on luxuries such as mongering. Stage of life also matters too (I. E. Whether one will soon receive an inheritance from parents). I recently heard of one monger in his 50's who is dumping large sums into the coffers of his FKK wife. This monger in his 50's reportedly told his friends "I can sell my flat, because I do not have any kids to hand it down to. And I can't take that money with me". The implication is that he could blow through his money and live life to the fullest..

When I was in b-school, I interviewed with a management consultancy. The case study involved what should a credit card company do? It turned out that the stable income earning, high credit score customers who pay their balance every month were money losing for the company, as they never roll any balances, and in fact the card issuer ends up providing free credit to them for a large portion of the year (from the time of their purchases to the time of their payment every month). At the same time, the bad Fico score, low income customers who have massive balances on several cards are also not good customers, as there is a real risk that many of them may default and collection is a huge problem. The best customers for the banks and card issuers were the middle range, OK income customers with expensive habits who perpetually have large balances, are financially not truly savvy even if they think they are, paying at 16% rate forever and not being smart enough to realize they are being fleeced.

One girl I was banging for payment and gifts (not an FKK girl) once asked me how much money I make or what's my net worth or something along those lines. I asked "why do you care, the only thing that should matter to you is if I have enough money to give your few hundred dollar payment". She reconsidered that statement and agreed with me.

From the perspective of any WG, the best customers are not the high net, fiscally prudent men. They are the equivalent of the high income customers of bank who always pay off the balance at the end of the month. The best customers for WGs are the men who make a hundred to 120 grand a year but spend 40 of that on prostitutes and clubs. If the WG snares enough such men as her regulars, her own career in the club is made.

[Escape Artist]

I cannot agree that LR has good casting optically, it is OK, only good point I can say about LR is amazing service for just 50 euro 30 min session and girls being more younger than other clubs. But optically, it is OK level, no stunner at LR.

In your opinion, who is the best looking girl at Living Room? And what number would you give her for optics and for service?