German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[Pistons]

Is there any serious source for this claim? Or is it just the world as seen by Pistons?

I see no conflict between your two sentences. LOL.

I know far more than what you can find in studies or on the internet. But I don't feel like writing about it here. The market is not very homogeneous, and is quite diverse. But overall given equal spending power, the amount of girls went up after the Nordic model arrived, and their age went down.

I suppose the Nordic market is also quite affected by pan-European prostitution anyway, so the boundaries are much weaker between the Nordics and Germany, UK or even Spain than you'd think.

But still, not many locals who are not drug addicts does it openly through ads. Or the ones that does, do it through sugar daddy sites due to cultural / political stigma. However, if society had deemed it fine, it would have exploded. The liberal undertones are already in place in some areas, because religion is 90% dead. So even the feminists (late stranglers left after the religious generations) are fighting against the clock. That is my impression at least.

[Mongerer88]

Just a general observation, not intended to be hostile. But one thing I noticed in the discussion of whether there might someday be a US FKK and what it would be like is that guys who go to FKKs on a consistent basis analyze things from a standpoint of large establishments that operate legally. That really makes it difficult for a lot of guys to really appreciate the extent of the "underground sex work market" in many countries. When guys on the FKK Lounge area discuss prostitution in other countries, they focus on strip joints because they have fixed addresses and can be found. But that is a very small part of the overall scene when the larger independent escort world is factored in.

Someone pointed out that the USA Is estimated to have one million prostitutes. I suspect that is a reasonable number, perhaps a bit exaggerated. But one poster suggested that if there was an American FKK, perhaps some Hooters waitresses might work there instead. I kind of think that some Hooters waitresses who are willing to sell some sex on the side have in fact caught on to the idea of exchanging cell phone numbers and email addresses with some favorite select customers and arranging some private transactions. I complimented the poster who shared the Sugar Baby experiences because it illustrated how the market works in many countries. Ads are found, reviews are searched (although both are more difficult now as the industry adapts to the Fosta / Sesta cyclone of shit, but there are still plenty of ad and review boards in existence, even some brand new ones established offshore), some level of screening occurs so that both parties can be sure no cops are involved, and ultimately a transaction takes place in a completely private setting and everyone is happy.

The nature of this "underground" system throughout most of the world makes it very difficult to measure. There are plenty of ads in the Nordic countries, so who knows how many of them are answered and how many transactions take place. We don't know, and neither does the person trying to write this scholarly piece on the effect of the Nordic Model. It just can't be easily quantified like FKK transactions can.

Some would argue that these independent escort models are the best because it eliminates any middleman and lets the ladies better choose their rates, working hours and customers. Others would argue that having everyone do this in a big fixed-place facility increases safety. Both arguments have merits.

But I think it is very difficult for guys who frequent FKKs to really appreciate how the scene works in other countries or really appreciate how prevalent sex work is in other countries with more of an independent escort scene.

[Optimist]

https://www.idunn.no/oslo_law_review..._does_it_stand

Seems like the effects on number of prostitutes is debatable to say the least.

[Uggabugga]

Forget about the payable scene in Iceland. Prostitution (supply side) is heavily fuelled by poverty and with this tiny community (<500 k) relative workable population, and limited immigration theres simply not enough poverty to make this scene on offer.

Imagine Germany on the contrary, with an estimate of 10 kk below powerty line PLuSS «uncontrolled» immigration no wonder a few % feels tempted using this opportunity short or longer for quick bucks.

Just think about all dirt in this scene in certain asian countries, certainly don't happen in the wealthier parts.

These Airlines suck, reports on them are worse than Siri's reports out of Dietzenbach and no M&M's are served either. Siri, if you meet me at Day Care I would be so honored that I will pay your entry and bring a box of Godiva's for you and upgrade your desserts as I know the French are quite proud of their after meal servings. Consider it a free gift from America in exchange for our President being so rude to your leader

Still of interest though, can take a hit for one night.

[Kosher Kowboy]

Evidently prostitution is an issue in Iceland!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Iceland

Not sure if that means they now have one hundred or one thousand hookers!

Given the cost of living in Iceland, I would imagine a very expensive hobby in that part of the world!

These Airlines suck, reports on them are worse than Siri's reports out of Dietzenbach and no M&M's are served either. Siri, if you meet me at Day Care I would be so honored that I will pay your entry and bring a box of Godiva's for you and upgrade your desserts as I know the French are quite proud of their after meal servings. Consider it a free gift from America in exchange for our President being so rude to your leader

Still of interest though, can take a hit for one night.

[Der Auslander]

Evidently prostitution is an issue in Iceland!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Iceland

Not sure if that means they now have one hundred or one thousand hookers!

Given the cost of living in Iceland, I would imagine a very expensive hobby in that part of the world!

[Kosher Kowboy]

Bring a shovel and you can dig her up!

Also bring sandwiches as a burger and fries costs about US $25.

No shovel, I hate work, that is what landscapers are for!

These airlines are dirtballs, charge you for your seats, your bags, no food unless you pay; they probably have one dollar coin slots to feed in order to use the toilets. Guess no Iceland, it's cheaper to Amtrak to NYC and go from there direct and land at a good time.

That was the quickest trip to Iceland ever!!

[Der Auslander]

I always thought Iceland was a hooker graveyard but maybe I am incorrect.

Bring a shovel and you can dig her up!

Also bring sandwiches as a burger and fries costs about US $25.

[Kosher Kowboy]

= Iceland I think where it is a bit out of hand. =.

Any suggestions on where to look here in Reykjavik or are you saying it is a ghost town for tutes? I have 2-3 trips planned to see my family in the DC / BALT area and there are a few airlines that fly to Europe for the price of a can of coke and a snickers bar and the flights are short. They allow you free layover up to 7 days and I would be interested in staying a night on the inbound or the return if any action even for hotel outcall is there. Layovers can be 2-4 hours same day so I might choose to just stay the night than on to wherever. I always thought Iceland was a hooker graveyard but maybe I am incorrect.

[Rogue Nation]

I don't know. There is prostitution all over Scandinavia, but most of the women only take local men. Except on Iceland I think where it is a bit out of hand. Actually more prostitution across Scandinavia now than it was before that Nordic model arrived.

Is there any serious source for this claim? Or is it just the world as seen by Pistons?

[Mr Ho]

I think grassroots movement toward prostitution legalisation in the US is gaining popularity each year (or at least not completely losing its ground), but the process is painstakingly slow. Another example: according to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divorce the divorce was relatively recently legalized in countries such as Italy (1970), Portugal (1975), Brazil (1977), Spain (1981), Argentina (1987), Paraguay (1991), Colombia (1991), Andorra (1995), Ireland (1996), Chile (2004) and Malta (2011). WTF?! Perhaps another 50 years to see one of the states besides Nevada legalizing P4P. Not in my lifetime.

I think if we are to dig deeper, I sometimes feel that prostitution is not just sensitive topic, but also related strongly indirectly to population pyramid of the country, so it is matter of national security.

I know some really do believe marriage and sex is different, yes in part I agree and I understand where that set mindset comes from to glorify marriage.

But what I always meant is that, if sex with young beautiful girls are easy to access for us men, then many of men will begin to think why marry to end this sexual paradise that we have. Because most wives will not tolerate their husbands going to FKK freely exception of very few. So if prostitution is totally legalized and organized as German FKK or even better. Then many men will not marry as that provide access to good or even best sex life men can dream for. So marriage in major part become just companionship mainly. You know the point I am trying to convey here?

Also on top of that, me too movement and feminist movement stronger as we advance into future is not good thing to legalize prostitution as usually these people want to abolish it completely and will not even listen to debate about how federal control decrease women abuse in brothel. It is extreme thinking, they want to abolish the whole thing as they like to put a side the fact that we men need sex preferably with our dream young beauty girls that we can change quite often, plus preferably blow job with two girls at a same time or get our ass licked etc. They do not understand that we men need our rimjob sometimes wives do not understand that too LOL, so we need FKK LOL. But some normal girls are nice, I had girlfriends who did rimjob though, now she is happily married to a banker and has a kid, I often see her photos with her new family on facebook and it make me smile that she is happy and also laugh at her husband LOL.

At least pragmatic Germany gave us FKK formats and other german speaking part, so let us enjoy that hoping other nations will join in. I wonder why German speaking part tend to be more kinky though because they tend to give me image that these guys are very serious people as a society, I guess it is a rebound of being so serious that they need to take some stress out in form of sex? LOL.

I hope netherland and hopefully some other nations like in scandinavia will implement FKK format, I mean they are more sexually open and in some states prostitution is legalized, and they are flexible society, so we got more hope in those europe region than USA. In USA, you can shoot bullet from guns when you turn old enough, but cannot shoot sperm from your penis guns LOL.

[Smoke Light]

Canabbis took about over 40 years to legalize in USA and it is happening slowly now, so prostitution got some hopes.

Only cons is that with all these movement of me too, feminists getting stronger etc, prostitution may have long way to go.

As long as there are countries with downside of economy, there always will be prostitution with legalize format, I just hope it is as good as in Germany or as reported in Brazil format where both clients and girls are both reasonably safe.

I think grassroots movement toward prostitution legalisation in the US is gaining popularity each year (or at least not completely losing its ground), but the process is painstakingly slow. Another example: according to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divorce the divorce was relatively recently legalized in countries such as Italy (1970), Portugal (1975), Brazil (1977), Spain (1981), Argentina (1987), Paraguay (1991), Colombia (1991), Andorra (1995), Ireland (1996), Chile (2004) and Malta (2011). WTF?! Perhaps another 50 years to see one of the states besides Nevada legalizing P4P. Not in my lifetime.

[Chongmal]

One more thing given the location across the pond, the only low income immigrants who are available are from LatAm and Central America, and if you are looking for that Caucasian look there is no such supply. And with Trump, not even the Latinos are coming/allowed to come. Just have to hope that those corn fed booties from Nebraska and Oklahoma will become so poor and wanting to sell themselves for a 50. Not gonna happen, not in the numbers we want.

I honestly believe there are enough women living below the poverty level in the US now that a large variety could be found in clubs if prostitution was legalized. There are plenty of young women working minimum wage jobs at McDonald's, Burger King, Hooters, etc. That I'm sure would jump at the possibility of earning $100 per hour if it was legal. It would, however, cause a huge negative impact on strip clubs. A Hungarian lady friend of mine who worked as a stripper in Italy always said, "there is no money working as a stripper in countries where prostitution is legalized".

[Pistons]

https://youtu.be/eIlmbUbiGxM

Old but still so funny. And not that much has changed.

[Mr Ho]

Yes, this is it I think. Something catastrophic shaking America to its very core would have to occur in order for the American people to lighten up and open the door to legalized prostitution nationwide. Not likely to pass in my lifetime. But still, I know that I lived during one of the world's golden ages of prostitution. Maybe the best ever for men with the means to zip around the globe via air travel.

Canabbis took about over 40 years to legalize in USA and it is happening slowly now, so prostitution got some hopes.

Only cons is that with all these movement of me too, feminists getting stronger etc, prostitution may have long way to go.

As long as there are countries with downside of economy, there always will be prostitution with legalize format, I just hope it is as good as in Germany or as reported in Brazil format where both clients and girls are both reasonably safe.