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[Optimist]

McAdonis. I am afraid I almost never consider a working girl as a friend. And certainly not Betty. Nor Damaris for whom I still have a soft spot, but who pushed her luck too far. A friend would be someone I trusted to help me if I had a serious problem. Maybe in all my mongering career there were under half a dozen girls who came within this category. I never forget that in clubs it is a business relationship, however much fun it may be to play the "illusion" game.

I am sure you are right about Evita. The best workers know the key to big money is to pretend (or even believe) they are friends to clients. I avoided her as my spider sense told me she was not genuine for me (just my gut reaction: not knocking any guys who were clients). Other girls have kept me as a regular customer as they were able to make me think they genuinely liked me.

My current Queen is on probation. She stayed in touch through six months in romania and has now returned to Dortmund. We shall see how this story goes.

Hope that answers. Just impressions not tablets of stone

Cheers.

[Sirioja]

A girl asked for 30000 euro in FKK? Even for AO sex, that is absurd figure LOL.

AO BJ AKA BBBJ is even 50 euro extra nowadays in some clubs, but wow 30.000 Euro, it would be better off for you to get wrx sti or lancer evolution for your weekend 1000 km drive to German FKK and mountain Siri.

I never paid any extra for AO fucking, BBBJ, or kissing, and I will never pay. Oana was cute and smiling, but not at all a top class model type. Because I discovered World on end of January 2014, pretty Samanta was my first girl for a great first room, but she blocked in mind on next Saturday, too GFE sex for her, so I discovered Oana and EMA now Andrea with weight at Oase, for weekly rooms. After about 1 month of weekly rooms, Oana just tried to fuck me as a newbie, when EMA / Andrea always stayed lovely, even when I stopped for Isabella and Madi, and still at Oase when I see her, always saying: long time, I didn't see you. But some members needed to write about before being able to think a bit about the ridiculous, some need so much to gossip about other guys, they even pay time in room for this. As say some of my girls who are bullshit about me: You must be the guy with most jealousy about You.

I don't think Impreza or Lancer would resist to my rhythm, but for 30000, I'm pretty sure I can fly to Bishkek and find a superb Kyrgyze, I can fuck her as I like for more than 1 year, and even ask her to rim me to wash my ass if I need, for such money, but I think I would prefer to treat her like a princess to get the best from her, as I do with my Romanians in FKK. Seeing Globe superstar behaving about me, after I didn't go with her on last time we saw on November 2017, after seeing me going with other girls before her, but what a delight when I went to her when she was smiling all along the day, a so enjoyable behavior for my mind.

I wonder if she works on next Sylvester, even better to do for Sylvester, even Globe Sylvester party is expensive = 170 for a gay party and guys have to fight for girls at night, but I wonder if I ask her, what she would choose on new year time, between big money business or sweet love, even only in club.

[Java Man]

You do realise that there is a risk your family will be separated at the border, don't you?

What Family? Real, confirmed monger, standing up and fully erect!

[Sirioja]

Salaam Monsieur-ioja. I think she meant that you had AO sex with her 20 years ago and she is now faced with college fees. A perfectly reasonable request under the circumstances.

Another possibility is that this was Demi Moore slumming it.

Another possibility is that she is Turkish. You thought she was asking for 30,000 euros, but she was actually asking for 30,000 Turkish lira, or about five bucks. Only a cheap charlie would refuse to give a girl five bucks.

All my girls, who are most often the prettiest and busiest in clubs, know I'm poor, I never tip, my only tip is to repeat, but they come to me, many want to start their day with me, because of how I treat them. Usually, when I stop with them, or when they see me going with another girl, when most ask me not to go with other girls, then they become angry and I become a bad guy, when they came to me weekly for months. Funny business which can be win-win or lose-lose.

When I gave this example of a girl who could ask big money, I didn't name her, but some guys needed to find who she was among my girls, like they needed to write I exhausted a girl on March 2015, so when she came straight to me on next Saturday when she started earlier than usual, at 5 pm, I asked her: Are you sure, you want to go with me? She looked at me with her black eyes who did afraid some guys thinking she was arrogant, answering: why you say this, so I told her what was written. She had 4 rooms on this Saturday: 3 1 hours with me and another short one, I didn't need to force her, nor to run after her all over the club, and we repeated on next Saturday. I remember on end of January 2015, when I couldn't come on Saturday because of Wengen and Kitzbühel Worldcup, I asked her if we could meet on Wednesday, waking up at 6 am, working until nearly 5 pm to leave before big traffic, then pushing as fast as possible when Germans drive like snails when it s raining, I remember being on grip limit on my little Nurburg between Limburg and Giessen, arriving around 10.30 pm for fast diner, first meal of the day, to go to room around 11 pm, and second room at 3 am until closed. On second room, when she sucked me softly, I felt asleep, so she asked: You don't like? Of course I enjoyed but I just needed to sleep just 2 seconds. On second Wednesday when I arrived, she was talking with a guy but she came to me, on these 2 Wednesdays she made only my 2 hours business= 200 minus entry to pay, I think it was 75 for girls on Wednesday, so I apologized to make her come for such low business from working from 7 pm to 4 am in a so empty World, she answered: No problem, I m here for You. On some Saturdays, she also had only my business, she was too classy for World clients. Then I slept until 5 am, and push as fast as possible back to go to work in Paris. 1300 kms in less than 18 hours, to dream twice with a classy Romanian girl at this time. I did nearly the same at LR, I discovered a elegant Romanian girl on end of 2016, 2 rooms on first evening, then I returned on next Friday but she didn't work, but her friend Ariana at this time told me she would work on Saturday, but I had to be in Paris on Saturday, so I asked Ariana: please tell her I will come back on Sunday, when she flied home on Monday. She came on Sunday, when we met only once before. Again 2 rooms, more than 2000 kms for her in week end, I knew I would have to work on her, but I knew I found my new Eve. When she saw me, she went straight to me, to ask me 30000 to fuck her AO.

Some guys took bank credit to send very big money to girls, then girls disappeared. A girl who respect you will never ask you more money than time in room.

[Incognito Int]

My first trip to Germany also. I'll be in Frankfurt during your stay. I also have a friend who lives near Frankfurt. (We're from Amerika, hope you won't hold that against us. LOL) You'll have to subscribe in order to PM, so we can coordinate.

I'll subscribe and we can coordinate. Thanks!

[Mr Ho]

I was in the club a couple of times during the period when Evita had put on a little weight and I think I even mentioned her weight issue in a report I wrote here however, I don't think I would have characterized it "considerable amount of kilos". Also, when I mentioned her weight in my report, I got a lot of pushback from her fans here. Not to mention, I did not see any drop off in the demand for her services from my anecdotal observation and she seemed to be rejecting just as manny people back then as she did when she had not put on the considerable amount of kilos. Her hold on her Asian base never seemed to waver, weight or no weight.

Most FKK girls gain weight throughout just few years of working at FKK, is that because of tough working schedule, not exactly healthy food at FKK and also due to stress working at FKK leading them to eat a lot?

I mean sex all day part is quite a exercise for them, but they tend to gain weight working in FKK.

[Member #4581]

I was in the club a couple of times during the period when Evita had put on a little weight and I think I even mentioned her weight issue in a report I wrote here — however, I don't think I would have characterized it "considerable amount of kilos". Also, when I mentioned her weight in my report, I got a lot of pushback from her fans here. Not to mention, I did not see any drop off in the demand for her services from my anecdotal observation and she seemed to be rejecting just as manny people back then as she did when she had not put on the considerable amount of kilos. Her hold on her Asian base never seemed to waver, weight or no weight.

[McAdonis]

I have occasionally dropped regular girls after a couple of years, not because of the (inevitable) weight increase or other physical change but because of change in their behaviour (or maybe my changing views). Once I find a girl I will stick with her regardless of physical change (within reason). BTW I see you remember my Betty posts better than I do LOL.

Optimist, I will amend my original statement: It is hard to "fire" your friends if they have never wronged you. If they betray you, steal from you, or take you for granted, then firing your friends becomes quite easy. So yes, it was easy for you to fire Betty, but at that point at which you gave Betty her walking papers, did you still truly consider her a friend?

Evita from Sharks might be an apt case study. She was known to go above and beyond and befriend many of her regulars. At one point, she gained a considerable amount of kilos. I suspect a small percentage of her regulars did abandon her immediately. And I suspect a few also accepted her new body. But I suspect a vast majority of her regulars were trying to devise a way to break things off with her, but didn't quite have the heart to do it. Fortunately for her, she was able to lose most if not all of the weight, so it became a moot point. Had Evita been less friendly, I am sure there would have been a bigger fall out her business.

[Polyamorist]

The funniest is one member who liked to write about me and my girls, wrote she asked me 30 000 because I asked her for AO sex. Had anybody paid 30.000 to have AO sex?

Salaam Monsieur-ioja. I think she meant that you had AO sex with her 20 years ago and she is now faced with college fees. A perfectly reasonable request under the circumstances.

Another possibility is that this was Demi Moore slumming it.

Another possibility is that she is Turkish. You thought she was asking for 30,000 euros, but she was actually asking for 30,000 Turkish lira, or about five bucks. Only a cheap charlie would refuse to give a girl five bucks.

[Ortos]

. I also have a friend who lives near Frankfurt. (We're from Amerika, hope you won't hold that against us. LOL)

You do realise that there is a risk your family will be separated at the border, don't you?

[Java Man]

Greetings! 3. I'll post in the travel section, but I'd prefer to visit the FKK with another monger for safety reasons, as well as to swap stories and party. I'm new to the region.

My first trip to Germany also. I'll be in Frankfurt during your stay. I also have a friend who lives near Frankfurt. (We're from Amerika, hope you won't hold that against us. LOL) You'll have to subscribe in order to PM, so we can coordinate.

[Sirioja]

McA. You are right. I have occasionally dropped regular girls after a couple of years, not because of the (inevitable) weight increase or other physical change but because of change in their behaviour (or maybe my changing views). Once I find a girl I will stick with her regardless of physical change (within reason). BTW I see you remember my Betty posts better than I do LOL.

As for the 30,000 story. The girl has a different version, but I will not share it as it is only her version and I feel, as Sirioja suggests, it is not appropriate to gossip about another ISG member. The key point is, yes, Sirioja says he was asked for 30,000 and unsurprisingly it changed his mood. The same girl asked me for over a year for money, and finally for 5000, as a gift. However, I still continued to go to a room with her occasionally for an half hour, and she used regularly to invite me to sit and chat (couch time) with her for maybe half hour or an hour (always it was me who cut it short so she could earn money from customers). Her money request did not change the mood as we were not playing the "illusion" game, and my refusal seemed to lead to respect from her.

With at least four girls (over a 16 year period) I was playing the "illusion" game and unskillfull requests for money led to me terminating the business relationships. With another two girls I offered money without being asked, and they subsequently asked for further money. With a couple of other girls they refunded me significant parts of my room expenditure. So, even with one charmless ageing monger, there is no set pattern.

When I talk about money I am not referring to marginal tips or very cheap gifts. I am uncomfortable writing about myself but thought it might give a hint of the rich variety of things which happen. I know some members have much more amazing stories than I.

So, I'm not the only one Oana asked money, not by whatsapp for me, eyes in eyes in the room. I think I had about 5/6 rooms with her on March and April 2014, so she knew my behavior with her, not a girl for illusion, but she was playful and funny, but she really didn't deserve 30.000 or even 5000 if I wanted AO sex, same like for kissing I will never pay extra for AO, it can happen during fluent sex, or not. For sure I stopped after this room with her, I can't go with girls I don't trust, even she tried to attract me for months, but when Isabella arrived at World and Madi I discovered on May, Oana was not on same level for me.

I never need to gossip about other guys when I'm with a girl, I have better to enjoy with her, but a guy with my behavior with girls has all the prettiest for regulars, at Globe where I m nothing for money, girls who know me come to me, even the Globe full busy superstar who is much more top class than was Oana.

[Optimist]

McA. You are right. I have occasionally dropped regular girls after a couple of years, not because of the (inevitable) weight increase or other physical change but because of change in their behaviour (or maybe my changing views). Once I find a girl I will stick with her regardless of physical change (within reason). BTW I see you remember my Betty posts better than I do LOL.

As for the 30,000 story. The girl has a different version, but I will not share it as it is only her version and I feel, as Sirioja suggests, it is not appropriate to gossip about another ISG member. The key point is, yes, Sirioja says he was asked for 30,000 and unsurprisingly it changed his mood. The same girl asked me for over a year for money, and finally for 5000, as a gift. However, I still continued to go to a room with her occasionally for an half hour, and she used regularly to invite me to sit and chat (couch time) with her for maybe half hour or an hour (always it was me who cut it short so she could earn money from customers). Her money request did not change the mood as we were not playing the "illusion" game, and my refusal seemed to lead to respect from her.

With at least four girls (over a 16 year period) I was playing the "illusion" game and unskillfull requests for money led to me terminating the business relationships. With another two girls I offered money without being asked, and they subsequently asked for further money. With a couple of other girls they refunded me significant parts of my room expenditure. So, even with one charmless ageing monger, there is no set pattern.

When I talk about money I am not referring to marginal tips or very cheap gifts. I am uncomfortable writing about myself but thought it might give a hint of the rich variety of things which happen. I know some members have much more amazing stories than I.

[Incognito Int]

Greetings!

I'm a monger from way back, but haven't been active in over ten years so started a new profile for my upcoming travels to Germany. Hoping you guys can help me out. My plan is to visit an FKK, as well as use an escort to my hotel. Not really interested in RLD action.

Questions:

1. If I could only visit one FKK and my preference is for thin and young, what's my best bet on a Monday / Tuesday evening in the Frankfurt area?

2. I know escorts can be hit or miss, but are there any recommendations for independent ladies or reputable agencies?

3. I'll post in the travel section, but I'd prefer to visit the FKK with another monger for safety reasons, as well as to swap stories and party. I'm new to the region.

Thanks in advance. If you prefer PM, let me know and I'll spring for the membership. I've read through the forums but as my trip draws near I wanted to get as much updated info and advice as possible.

Thanks in advance!

[Mr Ho]

I for one won't be "reverting". Real, confirmed mongers stand up!

I for two won't be reverting, I do not see any rationality doing so.

I understand emotional reasoning, but my rationality will bring me back to monger world where sexual encounters are endless.

FKK is like walking into any bar, but difference is that at FKK, it is secure thing with more varieties on display for you to taste and change as we monger want it. And during lucky summer months, we monger even get to taste walk in girls who are in FKK game sometimes, which most of them end up doing it for permanently after tasting fast cash.

For mongers, fate, destiny and karama are the young beauties we bump in to at main bar, but main bar of FKK LOL. It is quite romantic setting that you do most dirty thing with her for few hours and never see each other again, it is melancholic side of FKK life as many mongers do remember some beautiful dirty moments with some beautiful young girls we nailed that we never see again as girls tend to leave for life at one point.

I see news on TV of some country like Prague, Bucharest etc and I do think about these beautiful dirty moments I had with those young beautiful girls who were once at German FKK. I hope they are happy in their own way in their home town.

There is no reverting at least fully, I had too much of beautiful moments in monger world.