German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[Canary]

Since the FKK closures I've read numerous posts on this forum, looked for the latest info & any details of a resumption. Like many I've had hopes raised then lowered.

I live outside Germany but often visit the Frankfurt Clubs 9/10 times a year but trying to fully understand the general mood of the politicians / situation from afar is difficult so I have a small amount of questions please?

1: Is the news definite that FKK's won't open anytime before 16 August in the Frankfurt area?

2: Is there ANY reasonable chance that Clubs outside Hessen in Germany will open much earlier than 16 August?

3: Having only visited German Clubs how do the Zurich clubs compare?

I'm considering next month looking for a Club that's near Zurich airport & similar to the Sharks prices & set up.

I keep in contact with some of the Club girls who (unsurprisingly) invite me to visit them but it doesn't interest me. If I was looking for an Escort I could see one in my own country, it's the Club atmosphere & numerous naked girls that I miss.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Thanks for all the replies & comments which have made me consider that maybe the Swiss scene is not something I would enjoy as much as Germany.

So I will wait another 2/3 months to see if things change for the better in Germany & only consider Swiss again if after that time the situation has not altered in Germany.

[Sirioja]

More than 30 % of FKK girls are already working as escorts. When the borders open from Monday all Romanian beauties will be back, you just need to search in escort sites.

Seem escorting is allowed in Hessen and Bavaria, but not NRW?

Swiss and Austrian clubs should have limitation for number of people, so, many WGs should not find where to work in clubs o this Summer.

[Sirioja]

Two points:

"No Man has ever said on his death-bed:

'I wish I spent more time at the office'.

'I wish I had sex with fewer Women' ".

Our famous Victor Hugo wrote: our best times are those we didn't live yet, so hopes and wishes, even I preferred my previous life and would have been so proud to have only her for woman, what I would call to succeed life.

[Sirioja]

If someone is reading this forum, I doubt they believe that mongering is bad.

Hobbies taken to the extreme can consume someone's entire life. In that sense, the hobby is the core of life, not the accessory. If I understand correctly, your "variety of meals" reference is an argument that males are not hard-wired to be monagamous with one woman. Again, I do not believe anybody reading this forum would argue with you. Alcohol, drugs, and gambling in moderation are fine when done recreationally to cope with stress, but at extreme levels, they become detrimental to one's mental, physical, and financial health.

Partly because FKKs are an open format, we are forced to bear witness to see these tragic dramas play out. At these extreme levels, you see mongers going into debt. You see mongers mumbling to themselves. You see mongers stalking the WGs. You even see mongers who resemble Christian Bale's character in the movie the Machinist (I. E angry outbursts, hallucinations, insomnia, neglecting his health and career) https://youtu.be/bAhBZXw1Kak.

According to doctors, addiction is when you can't control and suffer from, when this playfield should be for pleasure. My advice would be not to send big money to buy a house in Romania, thinking to live there in love with your beauty, when I met some who made thousands € credit, up to one hundred thousand, and sent, and then girl phone didn't answer anymore. For me, love out of bed and for sure out of the club, can only be problem and even dangerous, when love in bed is more enjoyable, but when girls start to speak about love, then usually becoming complicated, better to manage to change to other topic or leave.

[KaveMan]

Two points:

"No Man has ever said on his death-bed:

'I wish I spent more time at the office'.

'I wish I had sex with fewer Women' ".

[Alessandro527]

But when German brothels are still closed, can meet some girls as escort.

More than 30 % of FKK girls are already working as escorts. When the borders open from Monday all Romanian beauties will be back, you just need to search in escort sites.

[Sirioja]

Changing the subject which cities in Germany do you think has the options for paid sex? Doesn't matter which type.

Look on Kaufmich for escorts, around Dusseldorf or Frankfurt, probably can find around Koln and Berlin. You can find some brothels girls. I think escorting may be allowed now, not really sure, but nevertheless always kept on.

For those who are in big hurry, as soon border with Switzerland open, should be on Monday, very close to border, History Basel Liestal where you can have some Globe girls for 99 CHF = less than 95 € , until 19 June when they may return to Globe for 130 . In Zurich West suburb, Swiss Dietikon where can also have Globe girls for 89 CHF, not much more expensive than Germany and already opened, for hurry to empty balls.

As I don t need to empty balls, but to make dream my mind, I don t feel hygienic hurry, because as long I won t see a dreamed girl and I didn't see any among 30 Globe girls at History or Swiss, then I don't need to go, I only go for beauties who make me dream and I enjoy to taste weekly but only princess mannered natural elegant beauties. Maybe found new Latvian escort.

[McAdonis]

If mongering is bad, then what is the good and better alternative?

If someone is reading this forum, I doubt they believe that mongering is bad.

Comments were made here of sex addiction and claims of it being to fill an otherwise empty life. This may be true of many things, alcohol and drugs or being a workaholic. The list is endless. Expat lover argument is misconceived. We do enrich the FKKs and hookers, but that is also true of banks, coffee shops, airlines and supermarkets. It is called consumption of services.

Sex is hard wired into living species and it feels good. Most of the people here simply follow the equivalent of varying their meals at restaurants rather than the same re-heated freezer pack day after day. Our hobby is an accessory to life rather than the core.

Hobbies taken to the extreme can consume someone's entire life. In that sense, the hobby is the core of life, not the accessory. If I understand correctly, your "variety of meals" reference is an argument that males are not hard-wired to be monagamous with one woman. Again, I do not believe anybody reading this forum would argue with you. Alcohol, drugs, and gambling in moderation are fine when done recreationally to cope with stress, but at extreme levels, they become detrimental to one's mental, physical, and financial health.

Partly because FKKs are an open format, we are forced to bear witness to see these tragic dramas play out. At these extreme levels, you see mongers going into debt. You see mongers mumbling to themselves. You see mongers stalking the WGs. You even see mongers who resemble Christian Bale's character in the movie the Machinist (I. E angry outbursts, hallucinations, insomnia, neglecting his health and career) https://youtu.be/bAhBZXw1Kak.

[Pessimist]

I continue to think there exists less than 5% chance that large Hessen type clubs will open prior to Sept and less than 25% before December. I also think it is irresponsible for DE to open such clubs at a normal scale and by and large Germany has been quite responsible which tells me it is unlikely clubs will be open so soon. We are seeing a rebound second wave in multiple states in US already and our first wave never went away. I realize some guys are quite eager, perhaps you may have strong physical constitution and super immunity but an average dude would definitely be at elevated risk of infection from such clubs if they were open at normal scale.

[PayForIt]

The simple answer is no, nobody knows exactly when clubs will re-open.

So seems brothels will re-open in the same days in all the federal states.

How annoying and depressing when many other activities which involve physical contact are permitted. Footballers hold each other, breath the same air and are exposed to each other's sweat. I know it is played outdoors but it must carry a similar risk perhaps other than BBBJ and DATY as all penetrations would be covered anyway.

Missing the fun of FKKs this year and am very much hoping you guys who also look around the german boards will post some exciting news of re-opening dates in the near future.

[PayForIt]

Comments were made here of sex addiction and claims of it being to fill an otherwise empty life. This may be true of many things, alcohol and drugs or being a workaholic. The list is endless. Expat lover argument is misconceived. We do enrich the FKKs and hookers, but that is also true of banks, coffee shops, airlines and supermarkets. It is called consumption of services.

Sex is hard wired into living species and it feels good. Most of the people here simply follow the equivalent of varying their meals at restaurants rather than the same re-heated freezer pack day after day. Our hobby is an accessory to life rather than the core. Just as a glass of wine with a lovely meal is good. Moderation and perspective is part of this hobby, though perhaps should be added to the instruction manual in case some skipped life classes.

If mongering is bad, then what is the good and better alternative? Marriage? Seeking arrangement (polite hooker-dom) ? Casual flings ? Each have their own cost-benefit analysis. Marriage is a huge bucket of risk; the statistics are grim. Mongers have careers, friends and family in real life, and many here I have met are very hard working. They lack time to play elaborate games to get access to beautiful women. Many have disproportionate disposable income. Here, we get to point and click, and get access to a stunning collection of prime young women as we please, a privilege that was formerly reserved only for kings and princes. We also get contraception, fast and safe air travel and medical care that even 50 years ago was unavailable to even kings and heads of state. The goal of our hobby is normal and natural. It is the mad social rules and lack of rational thought that creates unhappiness, discontent and bad laws.

Long live access to gorgeous young women and the joy of life, inside and outside of the hobby. Women are far more voracious sexually than they let on, and unlike the male, they can easily do 10 guys a day.
May the COVID thing end. I have a lot of catching up to do. Legs over my shoulder, all the way in, 2nd girl cupping my balls as the other is taken anally or vaginally. Then a giggle, cuddle and rest and do it all over again. YAY!

One of the best and most accurate definitions of mongering I have read in any forum.

[Polyamorist]

It is probably more than just that. We all most likely only Exist for Love.

Just like that new Aurora song.

As Rumi said:

"Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it. ".

-- Mollyamorist

[Sirioja]

During my last visit to Sharks which was March 16, the day before they closed the club was eerily quiet and I got the opportunity to chat with the staff who were quite open to conversation. Before that all I did was greet them. On that day I spent a lot of time talking to the front desk staff telling them about myself, my job and my home and travels and in turn they told me about themselves. We laughed and joked and the good-byes at the end of that visit were notable. Germans are very curious people, they're cold and harsh on the outside but that masks quite a warm interior. It would be interesting to know what they have been up to in the interim.

I confirm Sharks desk was welcoming for my 13 and 14 March visits, and had a great last room with German Tabea for her first room at Sharks.

[Sirioja]

Like the other guy said, who cares about escorting? We are here on the FKK forum for the FKK experience. Not a wank.

But when German brothels are still closed, can meet some girls as escort.

[Pistons]

Comments were made here of sex addiction and claims of it being to fill an otherwise empty life. This may be true of many things, alcohol and drugs or being a workaholic. The list is endless. Expat lover argument is misconceived. We do enrich the FKKs and hookers, but that is also true of banks, coffee shops, airlines and supermarkets. It is called consumption of services.

Sex is hard wired into living species and it feels good. Most of the people here simply follow the equivalent of varying their meals at restaurants rather than the same re-heated freezer pack day after day. Our hobby is an accessory to life rather than the core. Just as a glass of wine with a lovely meal is good. Moderation and perspective is part of this hobby, though perhaps should be added to the instruction manual in case some skipped life classes.

If mongering is bad, then what is the good and better alternative? Marriage? Seeking arrangement (polite hooker-dom) ? Casual flings ? Each have their own cost-benefit analysis. Marriage is a huge bucket of risk; the statistics are grim. Mongers have careers, friends and family in real life, and many here I have met are very hard working. They lack time to play elaborate games to get access to beautiful women. Many have disproportionate disposable income. Here, we get to point and click, and get access to a stunning collection of prime young women as we please, a privilege that was formerly reserved only for kings and princes. We also get contraception, fast and safe air travel and medical care that even 50 years ago was unavailable to even kings and heads of state. The goal of our hobby is normal and natural. It is the mad social rules and lack of rational thought that creates unhappiness, discontent and bad laws.

It is probably more than just that. We all most likely only Exist for Love.

Just like that new Aurora song.