German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[DrPoon]

Girls at the level of European FKK girls will be about $500 per hour in the USA.

As other people said EUR50 for half hour so EUR100 for an hour. For people who need travel paying EUR100 an hour why do they need to travel if that price is available to where they live without the need to travel.

Also remember EUR100 an hour without extra. Any extra will be EUR30-50. The rate for half hours in Some FKKs in NRW are EUR40.

I agree no need to barter as it gives off bad vibes and invariably leads to poorer service. But it is also important to remember what trigger that behaviour in the first instance. It is normally come from people, tourist, not regular visitors. These people are an easy target for the sharks, gold diggers. It is also because lack of information as they will compare the price they pay at home with the one they pay in FKK. But they fail to compare it with other places like in many countries in Asia, in South America. In Thailand, Vietnam, Laos: for examples with that sum of money you might get the girl to stay with you for the whole night.
Also if you do not come there regularly, or it might be just once in a few years, once in a lifetime,whatever come after even if these FKKs cease to exist is no longer your concern. If you see the service is good you could actually just tip them..

[Turgid]

Some girls know they can ask what they want because Asians now back will pay whatever they ask. Was not same on last year without Asians, when had many 100/60 full GFE. I don t mind paying 150/60 when 30 mn are too short for my too intimate game.....

Asians are spoiling girls by paying too much but Sirioja you are spoiling girls by spending over 45 minutes on foreplay in a one hour session. Then girls will not want to do 20 minutes of fucking with me in a 30 minute session.

[Adindas]

Yes, not many people do get a 100% pay rise. However, the 50/30 rate was in place for 20+ years. Not many people are paid the same as 20+ years ago. There's a lot of jobs paying 50 Eu an hour, it's not that high a pay rate. Like you say, if it's too much then don't pay it. Personally I never try and barter, it gives off bad vibes and invariably leads to poorer service because the girls think the guy is cheap.

As other people said EUR50 for half hour so EUR100 for an hour. For people who need travel paying EUR100 an hour why do they need to travel if that price is available to where they live without the need to travel.

Also remember EUR100 an hour without extra. Any extra will be EUR30-50. The rate for half hours in Some FKKs in NRW are EUR40.

I agree no need to barter as it gives off bad vibes and invariably leads to poorer service. But it is also important to remember what trigger that behaviour in the first instance. It is normally come from people, tourist, not regular visitors. These people are an easy target for the sharks, gold diggers. It is also because lack of information as they will compare the price they pay at home with the one they pay in FKK. But they fail to compare it with other places like in many countries in Asia, in South America. In Thailand, Vietnam, Laos: for examples with that sum of money you might get the girl to stay with you for the whole night.
Also if you do not come there regularly, or it might be just once in a few years, once in a lifetime,whatever come after even if these FKKs cease to exist is no longer your concern. If you see the service is good you could actually just tip them.

Anyway it is your money you are using. You could even pay ten times the regular price. Many people could effort that given that it is not an regular basis. But sensible people will start thinking, why do I need to travel if I could get the same price or even cheaper in my cities, areas. If people stop visiting FKKs in Germany it is just a matter of time before it ceases to exist. By the end of the day it will effect us all.

Alternatively you could also visit high class Brothels, Night Clubs where you will be treated like a king as long as you are willing to pay. There are a lot of courtesans, Pornstars could be flown to your house as long as you want to pay.

[Mr Ho]

Thank you for all the great information that is available on this forum!

I hope it is ok if I pose a question or two here.

First, I assume some or many of you have wives and / or families. I unfortunately do not travel a lot with work (and my wife knows my co-workes so it would be a risky lie). What excuse do you use to travel by yourself?

Secondly, I have read a lot of reviews (that I really appreciate) and a thing stands out as weird to me: Licking pussy. Partly because so many (mongerers) seem so into it, but hey 'each to his own', but also because it seems standard that you have to pay extra for it. Is it never included? Do the girls not like having oral sex performed on them? What up?

Thirdly, along the same lines, most reviewers seem to find it really important with GFE, I have a wife I can get that experience at home. I just want to fuck good looking girls, I don't really care if they seem unattentive, bored or don't feel like kissing. I'm not against them enjoying the sex, but it is really secoundary to me enjoying it. Are there more like me out there?

Hope I can make an escape from the wife soon. Planing on going to Frankfurt and checking out Mainhattan and / or Sharks.

Just say you want to see some museum in Germany as you are interested in it and actually go to museum for 10 min to take photos!

DATY is free usually, but some try to take advantage of you, but blowjob without condom is recently charged by little more, usually about 20 euro more in some clubs, it used to be free till government changed law in summer 2017!

I like fucking top beauty with GFE, but if I have to choose one, I go for beauty than GFE as I make sure the session is GFE or at least very dirty LOL!

So the question to you now, why do you want to escape from your wife? What is it about your wife that bother you so much and if so, why did you get married in the first place? You once thought she is the love of your life no? Then what changed beside maybe she got too old for you to seduced or she cheated or what changed since you decided to exchange bows forever?

[Samplerr]

Yes, not many people do get a 100% pay rise. However, the 50/30 rate was in place for 20+ years. Not many people are paid the same as 20+ years ago. There's a lot of jobs paying 50 Eu an hour, it's not that high a pay rate. Like you say, if it's too much then don't pay it. Personally I never try and barter, it gives off bad vibes and invariably leads to poorer service because the girls think the guy is cheap.

Average wages in Germany increased by less than 20% over the period 2000-2020.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...on-y-in-euros/

[Sirioja]

When you dream about Miami without knowing there, if I returned to US, I would choose NYC. Can give you our huge difference of level. Same than for S vs RS, when RS5 or 6 are just big lies by Audi, with automatic tiptronic, such sporty, to respect for pollution, and engine to 8500 tours, I would like to see for how many kilometers full charge and limited to 250 and if you switch off and break so risky engine, then you will see for guaranty with Audi. When I will find my good V8 S5, the only S5 when V6 is not on same level, I will prepare engine as always and with French technology, when I drove more than 500000 kms after 50% more power preparation and wish to drive more with S5 flexifuel to be my last car as a elegant beauty when I refuse electric, how could I drive 3000 kms on week end to go to climb and hybrid is just to go to buy bread but not for autobahns.

[Smoke Light]

Thank you for all the great information that is available on this forum!

I hope it is ok if I pose a question or two here.

First, I assume some or many of you have wives and / or families. I unfortunately do not travel a lot with work (and my wife knows my co-workes so it would be a risky lie). What excuse do you use to travel by yourself?

Secondly, I have read a lot of reviews (that I really appreciate) and a thing stands out as weird to me: Licking pussy. Partly because so many (mongerers) seem so into it, but hey 'each to his own', but also because it seems standard that you have to pay extra for it. Is it never included? Do the girls not like having oral sex performed on them? What up?.

What excuse do you use to travel by yourself?

Use some sort of professional development opportunity: a conference, or short-term (like a few days) educational course.

Second venue may be some sort of a hobby you have. Maybe you a railroad fan and you want to visit some railroad museums in industrial towns like Dortmund and Darmstadt (wink wink, there is one there indeed!) It would be great if you had such hobby in your childhood and suddenly you feel a strong urge to resurrect the experience, blah blah, you get the idea.

Thirdly, maybe you want to explore some sort of business opportunity, perhaps starting your own business. Maybe not now, maybe after you retire. However being a practical man that you are, you wish to start the preparation early, research a bit deeper (should I say analyze?) the matter and you have to visit Germany.

Fourthly you could have just discovered some German ancestors in your family tree and now you must visit and / or search for their graves. A slight variation may be that you want to learn and practice some German, but that would require some effort, like endless hours of practice, unless du sprichst wirklich schon gut Deutsch.

Important: once you make up your legend, stick to it to death. You have to believe in it yourself or else your wife will sense the deception.

And then the legend must be totally boring to your wife or something she would hate to do herself because you don't want her to follow you to Germany. This may actually be the most challenging aspect. Since you never know when you will be able to make your next trip, in your situation I recommend at least a 2-week getaway.

Another fruitful alternative is to send your wife away on vacation herself! Like Christmas or birthday gift, she gets a ticket to go somewhere nice and sunny with spa and massages and beautiful beaches. And you escape the house while she is away.

A possible modification of your escape is to pretend you casually go someplace near, like a neighboring state. You make not a big deal out of it in front of wife, like a rock climbing or a tennis boot camp. This will be more believable if you travel there by car. You would park in a safe paid parking lot for a few days, hop on a train or a bus to get to the airport and fly to Frankfurt. A serious disadvantage of this scheme is that it gives you a pretty narrow time window and also a couple of unauthorized by wife stamps in your passport after passing the EU border control.

Be prepared for the worst. Identify weaknesses in your plan and play out a defense scheme in your mind. Even if caught red handed, under no circumstances, without exceptions, never admit anything to your wife. Say it was a misunderstanding, a totally honest mistake, but never confess sex-related activities. Hope some of this helps.

[MongerMooze]

Thank you for all the great information that is available on this forum!

I hope it is ok if I pose a question or two here.

First, I assume some or many of you have wives and / or families. I unfortunately do not travel a lot with work (and my wife knows my co-workes so it would be a risky lie). What excuse do you use to travel by yourself?

Secondly, I have read a lot of reviews (that I really appreciate) and a thing stands out as weird to me: Licking pussy. Partly because so many (mongerers) seem so into it, but hey 'each to his own', but also because it seems standard that you have to pay extra for it. Is it never included? Do the girls not like having oral sex performed on them? What up?

Thirdly, along the same lines, most reviewers seem to find it really important with GFE, I have a wife I can get that experience at home. I just want to fuck good looking girls, I don't really care if they seem unattentive, bored or don't feel like kissing. I'm not against them enjoying the sex, but it is really secoundary to me enjoying it. Are there more like me out there?

Hope I can make an escape from the wife soon. Planing on going to Frankfurt and checking out Mainhattan and / or Sharks.

[The Cane]

There's a lot of jobs paying 50 Eu an hour, it's not that high a pay rate.

First of all, we're not talking 50 euros an hour. We're talking 50 euros for half an hour! If you don't think that's a lot of money, especially for someone with no education or marketable skills which is the case for nearly all of these girls, then you're living on a different planet. Sure there are lots of high paying jobs, but not like that. And for the high paying jobs that do exist, these FKK girls are not viable candidates for those as what they mostly bring to the table is puss and ass. Oh, and a mouth! And that's it.

[Sirioja]

Yes, not many people do get a 100% pay rise. However, the 50/30 rate was in place for 20+ years. Not many people are paid the same as 20+ years ago. There's a lot of jobs paying 50 Eu an hour, it's not that high a pay rate. Like you say, if it's too much then don't pay it. Personally I never try and barter, it gives off bad vibes and invariably leads to poorer service because the girls think the guy is cheap.

50 for 30 minutes = 100 for 1 hour. Girls who usually ask extras are most often not the prettiest nor best. Smart girls know better to make regulars returning weekly, rather than fucking for only one shot and guys will tell not to go, even I don t care about what guys tell. Telling a beauty is not good, can interest me, when I usually think I can get better.

[Sirioja]

Anybody here ever get a 100% pay raise for doing the same job at the same place? I didn't think so! A price of 100/30 is bullshit, and doesn't have a damn thing to do with inflation! No, it has everything to do with greedy tutes taking advantage of the condom law. That's what it has to do with. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. How many jobs do we know of where one can earn 50 euros for a half hour of work? These tutes were already being paid top money. Apparently some believe that prostitutes, like colleges and colleges universities, ought to get away with jacking their prices up far above anything that looks like the rate of inflation. Like with the higher education industry, at least in the United States anyway, they know that pussy is something that's got to be had. Got to get an education to get ahead and got to get some pussy to get laid!

The demand is there. And so they (the prostitutes) get away with charging outrageous sums of money without offering anything more, and sometimes even less. There's always a sucker who will pay it too, and even stand and argue on the side of the tutes. When I too get a 100% raise on the half hour to match theirs then we got a deal! Until then, look for ways to bargain for lower, more reasonable fees. Or just abstain and take your business elsewhere. Reading all of the recent reports, the action in Germany is sounding pretty pathetic right now. Given the proximity to the end of the pandemic crisis (I hope), I'm not surprised. I said from the start that we probably needed another year for the clubs to recover. It will be interesting to see how it goes for Mr. Ho during his upcoming trip. Mr. Ho please advise soonest.

Some girls know they can ask what they want because Asians now back will pay whatever they ask. Was not same on last year without Asians, when had many 100/60 full GFE. I don t mind paying 150/60 when 30 mn are too short for my too intimate game, but for a top beauty and top GFE for my love sex. No girl like this on this year at Sharks when Katalea fell for freshness, Sofi. De asking 200/60 but not pretty enough for so expensive, even one of the prettiest at Sharks. No girl worthing 150/60 at Oase. Ukrainian Lana at Mainhattan could but I can t fuck her too small pussy, tried on 3 times on 3 different positions during our discovery but had to give up each time not to hurt her and she really appreciated my behavior. But I have good girls in NRW for 80/60 or 200/120 and one at Freubad for 180/60 . I just adapt, when cheap Gold have prettier girls than in Hessen now.

[PaulInZurich]

I used to smoke good dope in Zurich as it was legal for few years back then

Basel starts a test program where a few hundred people are legally allowed to buy weed from some pharmacies. It's quite likely that in a few years weed is fully legal again in Switzerland. While drug possession and consumption are technically illegal in Switzerland, possession of small quantities for personal consumption is normally not prosecuted, people might get a fine but that's it.

[Sirioja]

Yes this is a technique of police in the USA to stop white people from entering Afro American neighborhoods (or possibly Puerto Ricans).

2 police cars blocking me at downtown entrance from airport, telling me: They will kill You. Also seen in Miami, at a crossroads, so many police cars arriving and helicopter for guys running leaving a shop. Funny to see in US crossroads with no traffic light, in France, would be daily big crashes. Less funny to see so many weapons in a car back, when so many crazy like Trump in US, killing children in schools. When they killed all Indians, wolves, bears and couguars.

[Abox79]

Anybody here ever get a 100% pay raise for doing the same job at the same place? I didn't think so! A price of 100/30 is bullshit, and doesn't have a damn thing to do with inflation! No, it has everything to do with greedy tutes taking advantage of the condom law. That's what it has to do with. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. How many jobs do we know of where one can earn 50 euros for a half hour of work? These tutes were already being paid top money. Apparently some believe that prostitutes, like colleges and colleges universities, ought to get away with jacking their prices up far above anything that looks like the rate of inflation. Like with the higher education industry, at least in the United States anyway, they know that pussy is something that's got to be had. Got to get an education to get ahead and got to get some pussy to get laid!

The demand is there. And so they (the prostitutes) get away with charging outrageous sums of money without offering anything more, and sometimes even less. There's always a sucker who will pay it too, and even stand and argue on the side of the tutes. When I too get a 100% raise on the half hour to match theirs then we got a deal! Until then, look for ways to bargain for lower, more reasonable fees. Or just abstain and take your business elsewhere. Reading all of the recent reports, the action in Germany is sounding pretty pathetic right now. Given the proximity to the end of the pandemic crisis (I hope), I'm not surprised. I said from the start that we probably needed another year for the clubs to recover. It will be interesting to see how it goes for Mr. Ho during his upcoming trip. Mr. Ho please advise soonest.

Yes, not many people do get a 100% pay rise. However, the 50/30 rate was in place for 20+ years. Not many people are paid the same as 20+ years ago. There's a lot of jobs paying 50 Eu an hour, it's not that high a pay rate. Like you say, if it's too much then don't pay it. Personally I never try and barter, it gives off bad vibes and invariably leads to poorer service because the girls think the guy is cheap.

[Mr Ho]

I agree for the reason for the price rise of the session!

As for the price justification, I am quite happy with the current rate as long as it stays that way and no more rise as 100 euro 30 min with the service being there can be justified, but more than that, it is getting ridiculous! If they raise prices more, I will switch to Escort in Germany which I presume will provide BBBJ considering higher pricing at escort?

I never had the occasion of girls trying to buy them drinks or trying to sell me crazy rates like 200 euro per hour etc that I read in forum before, girls in FKK has been reasonable and nice with my experience so far! Only 1 bad session that actually is ok and another one bad session that there was no session as that one was my fault for not looking at her face close enough under good light, so I cancelled as we walked into a room and offered to pay 50 euro which she took with Romanian curse LOL!

I meant 300 euro per hour not 200 euro as 200 euro sometimes they begin at 200 euro per 1 hour and I negotiate down to 150 euro LOL! I fell for 200 euro per hour session twice in 11 years, but hey, it was damn worth it LOL! But that is pushing my nerve though!

However, I would also add that, if we were to take those stunner out and try to fuck them, it would cost much more and need to invest so much time, efforts and affection with a lot of sucking up to do that I hate to do! So for me prices are justified as long as I am not too ripped off and again FKK girls has been really reasonable and honest with my experience and in my opinion! Some were extremely generous with their service even when I sometimes went for just 50 euro 30 min session, but that is fading nowadays, but it is still there sometimes! Lets see how post pandemic FKK and post russian invasion FKK will be like! I think quite promising because as I always wrote, the downside of this global events are where mongers will benefit at LOL!