German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[Optimist]

Today I completed a 90 minute session, and got to my locker, found my money, and in a daze walked up to the waiting beauty and gave her 150 euros. She seemed unusually happy as she said "Danke dir" and burst out laughing. Everybody around also laughed when the girl I had been to the room with was in turn given the 150 by my newly enriched stranger. All I can say is that it must have been a good session. In my defence they both had black hair and breasts.

[Pistons]

Yeah, never for things like independence, territory, religion, or resources.

Territory and resources are one and the same. And one school of thought is that resources is the main catalyst of what made us turn to monogamy over polygamy back when we were apes. But studying the bonobo of Congo, the reasoning for this is more nuanced. Instead of resources as a whole, nutritional values, and the correct diet on the other hand may be a valid solution as a catalyst as we can see the chimps living north of the Congo river and the other great apes there like the gorilla probably not getting the same nutrients. That idea takes it further and claims this then leads to a reduced immune system and diseases. And then the natural survival trend would be to turn monogamous.

Religion is just a propaganda tool. Mainly for warring purposes. But also to brainwash the masses. Carl Yung also describes the link to dreaming. And you might have heard of the vat2 gene (the god gene). And it seems even fda indirectly agrees on this now.

https://www.genengnews.com/topics/dr...ve-dyskinesia/

Independence is misunderstood, or at the very least falsified or used in a Machiavellian way. Leading the common man away from the main purpose of what the kings strive to keep in a monogamous society: ample supply of pussy.

[Takedown]

I have made this same point in another part of the site when you have mongers who want to act like they are somehow "better" because they are supposedly more ethical or claim to treat women with more respect. In the eyes of greater society they are taking advantage of and abusing women just like any other monger. And I find this notion of "respect" to be rather twisted as the same monger putting himself on a pedestal as respecting women can turn right around and post about a desire to have ass-to-mouth sex with prostitutes! Really? Geez! If that is respecting women, then I guess I just don't get it!

What's not to get? As mongers, I think we all have to judge ourselves outside of societal norms. You can be respectful without being a white knight. Respect is just not being a shitty human being to other human beings and not believing that the prostitute is somehow a lower form of life than you.

[Takedown]

Of course it is like this. It has always been the main reason for wars and conflicts in a monogamous practicing civilization: Pussy.

Yeah, never for things like independence, territory, religion, or resources.

[Pistons]

My point on ethical problem was that on this forum we shouldn't bring up and talk too much about ethical issues on women as I responded to (not initiated) the question of ethical problem raised by Pistons, because we are all sinners from the social and religious points of view. If I were an ethical man on women, I wouldn't read and write on ISG. I wasn't condemning and making an issue of the ethical problem I raised. I was simply reminding that we shouldn't use ethical issues on women to make points on this hooker forum because we are all sinners in the eyes of society and religion.

On the contrary, and if you read the red line through my comments, I pose the opposite view on sin and what is ethically right and wrong. My consensus is that western religions based on monogamy is derived from sin, and is thus devil worship and truly unethical. While polygamy is real ethics and good practice, creating peace and stability.

There is an alternative view on this also, but that is very spiritual and far out, and way beyond pseudo science speaking about carnal desires and fallen angels sleeping with the daughters of man. But suit yourself if you rather take those stories for granted than what I propose. At best it only seeks to justify the twisted tongue of the religions we use. Interestingly all religions admits the devil or some devil figure rules the world. And who rules the world? Religions do of course.

[The Cane]

I was simply reminding that we shouldn't use ethical issues on women to make points on this hooker forum because we are all sinners in the eyes of society and religion.

I have made this same point in another part of the site when you have mongers who want to act like they are somehow "better" because they are supposedly more ethical or claim to treat women with more respect. In the eyes of greater society they are taking advantage of and abusing women just like any other monger. And I find this notion of "respect" to be rather twisted as the same monger putting himself on a pedestal as respecting women can turn right around and post about a desire to have ass-to-mouth sex with prostitutes! Really? Geez! If that is respecting women, then I guess I just don't get it!

[Bfsie]

My point on ethical problem was that on this forum we shouldn't bring up and talk too much about ethical issues on women as I responded to (not initiated) the question of ethical problem raised by Pistons, because we are all sinners from the social and religious points of view. If I were an ethical man on women, I wouldn't read and write on ISG. I wasn't condemning and making an issue of the ethical problem I raised. I was simply reminding that we shouldn't use ethical issues on women to make points on this hooker forum because we are all sinners in the eyes of society and religion.

[Pistons]

Been watching Marco Polo on Netflix while being sick, and one thing strikes me. Kublai Kahn defines the might of his lands through the quality and vastness of his harem. Of course it is like this. It has always been the main reason for wars and conflicts in a monogamous practicing civilization: Pussy.

[Polyamorist]

1. Your first paragraph only makes sense if I would have the general neoliberal idea regarding monogamy. Which is wrong. So I don't! And I don't see any issue with coming from a richer country to hand out currency to women from a more liberal poor country than mine. I even consider it as aid, and feel it should therefore give me tax refund.

Salaam, Pistons, great post. I agree with what you have written. Including the potential for technology to create a paradise on earth -- if it could only be used for creation rather than destruction.

Ideally an FKK is a place where interesting people of both sexes come from far and wide to meet, chat, relax, have sex, and share experiences from their different cultures. Since young women typically don't have a lot of money, it makes sense that they be compensated for their time and expenses.

The challenges FKKs face include (1) the historical stigma associated with prostitution, and (2) the fact that a lot of money is flowing through them, so that attracts the attention of gangs. The gangs are only interested in money and control, not sex or anything else. So they will always try to fill clubs with their drones and dominate them. This inhibits the interesting people (the real people) from meeting and doing business. It is the job of FKK management to stop this situation from arising, but usually, as long as the money keeps flowing in -- even fools' money -- they don't care. Until of course it's too late and the club collapses.

[Mr Ho]

Pistons,

I owe you an answer, so here it goes.

So there is no ethical problem that you flied from a rich European country because of your birth luck to fuck and do all kinds of perverted sex acts on the FKK WGs who are in this business because they are poor and have bad birth luckr.

For super mongers, feeling is when we cum inside beautiful girls and quality of life in area of sex depend on line up LOL.

OK, kidding aside, For some people, maybe minority, but we do not like to live with or spend too closely with women, like listen to them, pay for their life, support them during their mental emotional stability period, irrational spending, doing things we do not want to do, and I do not like how older women looks let say above age 30 ish etc.

For some of us, living with women for long period of time is merely a torture or irrational act.

It is each their own, I understand some guys like that, but for some others, it is not pleasure or good quality life to spend long time and live with woman. I tried it when I was younger, but it is only good for first few months, then it decline and I want to get out soon as possible after that first few months.

Again, I understand how other side or maybe majority since society educate us to think that way like relationship or marriage to woman, but that is not good life for all of men, in fact the opposite.

I like to be in full control of my happiness and in area of sex life, lust, mongering is the best road I found for me and as for feeling, human communications etc. I got friends to do that with and family and also dogs.

Bottom line is that, I only like women when they are young and beautiful, I think because mostly how they look.

[Optimist]

Does he look like you?

I dare not look at her. Poor mite.

[BigBuddy69]

Does he look like you?

[Optimist]

Did a followup message claim that potentially the new born is you baby? 😁.

No. But a picture arrived.

[Pistons]

Right. Why didn't you go to FKK clubs and hand out your money to the WGs without any session? That would be aid by definition. Anyway, you are entitled to your definition and I am not going to discuss further with you on that.

Maybe you have fever now. Honestly I don't know what you were trying to say and I am not sure on what you disagree with me except that you wrote about marriage. I said relationship in my post, I didn't say marriage and never used the word "marriage" in my post. Relationship has many forms and marriage is one form of relationship.

1. What makes you think I don't go in and hand them money. Either way, I would refer to these articles on Thai prostitution:

http://hir.harvard.edu/article/?a=14146

https://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/t/tex...view=text;xc=1

2. Just a relationship is so abigous and non-binding that it can go as anything. So I suppose you have a point. I reread my post and found it to be very informative, but it is a big topic.

[Gino02]

I hope Bfsie and Pistons will forgive me for dragging a red herring in. Pistons, you mention "aid". I sometimes have had similar thoughts, but the scale is important. I received today a request for three months rent by Monday for a girl being discharged from hospital allegedly homeless, with a new born infant. Sometimes the aid requested would bankrupt the donor. It would be like supporting a second family.

Just for info. This aid request will be ignored.

Did a followup message claim that potentially the new born is you baby? 😁.