German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[The Cane]

"Latino" refers to people with ethnic origins relating to Latin America. Romania is squarely located in Eastern Europe and is significantly removed from anything related to the Americas. The Romanian language is derived from Latin, but that's a linguistic classification and has nothing to do with the ethnic make-up of Romanians vis-a-vis Latinos. If you search "Romanian ethnicity", you'll get a variety of results pointing to the Slavic, Baltic and slight Mediterranean mix, but that's still generally considered Eastern European. For the purposes of the US Census, they don't distinguish between White ethnicities save White Hispanic. So if you're Romanian, in the United States of America, you are White. Not Latino of "Hispanic". So, a Romanian would officially be considered White, Non-Hispanic / Non-Latino in the United States.

Conclusion: I don't know which misguided Romanians Mursenary claims to know in America my native land (I understand it), but I personally don't know of any Romanians in my country from the old country in Europe who think they are "Latino". The ones I know correctly view themselves as European, or American if they have acquired their citizenship. And in any event, the United States government certainly does not think of them as such (Latino). I rest. Case closed!

[Mr Ho]

Not surprised that a pro US comment bothered you.

(a) you had to go back to whenever this supposed valuation was achieved; a few hundred years ago?, so still the current valuations of Apple and Microsoft are extraordinary; (b) those valuations for the DEI company are suspect at best and probably meant very little. The value of a share is freely and easily known when there is a large liquid market for it. What was the trading liquidity of the East India company back then? Extremely thin.

At its peak, in 1989, the imperial palace in Tokyo, the small piece of land it sat on, was valued more than the entirety of California. That's what the history books say. But that is highly suspect. The imperial palace never traded. Its valuation was a theoretical approximation.

Japan is known to be most successful socialist country LOL! It is not all money here! Which has good side and bad side, but thankfully we can buy stunners pussy LOL! But legally no penis pussy intercourse is allowed LOL! But Dr Ho find the way with his experienced surgical technique that he has practiced for decades LOL!

[Pessimist]

The post pandemic price surge where basically only Germans were present in clubs has proved this to be a bit of a myth. In fact, this largest price surge in the history of FKKs happened under the "German only" watch.

The post pandemic FKK prices are unsettled due to supply shortages and excess demand in many ways. Not all the clubs functioned, not at their prior full capacities, not all the girls were back, some clubs may have operated at fewer # hrs, some rooms may have been offline, etc. On the demand side, even though it was Germans predominantly, there was pent up demand, demand pulled in future (because some guys may have been afraid clubs would shut soon), and so on.

In the last 18 months, supply disruptions impacted everything, and clubs are not immune. These prices are unsettled. However, I am not saying they will settle down again; probably won't but I don't know.

Also, we don't know how the prices would have behaved had there been a large number of foreigners. To say "prices went up when Germans dominated on the demand side and hence that proves Germans are equally culpable" is not logical when there is no alternate data point to show what prices might have been had a large mix of foreigners also were present in addition to Germans at the same time. Most likely, prices would have been worse. Just from the simple point that more men would have been there for the same # girls, plus the foreigners would be even more desperate to make hay while the vaccine shines.

[The Cane]

Your opinions versus mine.

You know what they say. Everybody has an opinion and an asshole. People are entitled to have their opinions. They're also quite welcome to be wrong.

[Mr Ho]

Hmmm I do not like not good service part, like in eastern europe, my friend can hook me up with super model level stunner there, but it is always pain in the ass to negotiate for BBBJ! It is ridicoulous negotiation involving my local friend as many tutes in easter europe do not speak good enough english or no english even sometimes LOL!

But in dubai, it is disco set up, so you can negotiate before right? But I guess tutes there are more harden and spoil, so harder to negotiate on rimjob and even BBBJ perhaps! I will see how tute scene is, but I loved the set up and layout of the city, but not much true culture there beside bling bling, very arab style bling bling LOL!

I tend to be more for paris, kyoto and tokyo for city culture, paris can be more safer and clean with my hoping though! It got little more cleaner than before, but still dirty, but it got more dangerous!

I will add Kanazawa to that, but I also like the historical vibe Berlin carry beside Artemis LOL! City is bit grunge, but when you talk about modern history, I love the vibe of hardness Berlin went through LOL! And it is my first FKK memory so!

I also like Moscow for same reason as Berlin, but both cities are not exactly clean or beautiful cities or cultivated as paris and Tokyo! And also London is added to my list!

I like the power and dynamism NYC carry, but I do not see myself living there! Too concrete jungle to me!

[Pessimist]

Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie (VOC), better known as the Dutch East India Company.

"At its peak, the VOC was worth the equivalent of Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, ExxonMobil, Berkshire Hathaway, Tencent, and Wells Fargo put together. This means that the world's most valuable company, Apple, is worth about 11% of the peak value of the VOC.

It was also worth, roughly, the same amount as the GDPs of Japan and Germany of today added together."

https://dutchreview.com/culture/hist...india-company/

Not surprised that a pro US comment bothered you.

(a) you had to go back to whenever this supposed valuation was achieved; a few hundred years ago?, so still the current valuations of Apple and Microsoft are extraordinary; (b) those valuations for the DEI company are suspect at best and probably meant very little. The value of a share is freely and easily known when there is a large liquid market for it. What was the trading liquidity of the East India company back then? Extremely thin.

At its peak, in 1989, the imperial palace in Tokyo, the small piece of land it sat on, was valued more than the entirety of California. That's what the history books say. But that is highly suspect. The imperial palace never traded. Its valuation was a theoretical approximation.

[Mr Ho]

Again all true that Romanians will be less typically Latin than Mexicans and true South Americans. Yet still, Latin flair nonetheless. Certainly on par with Italians and Spaniards and more than any other ethnicity / nationality on this earth. Not much different than definitively Latin Argentinians.

The point is to examine their actual culture in the spectrum of the Latin cultures, not to win an argument.

As long as these latin whatever suck and lick and fuck me, then it is all good for me LOL!

[Mr Ho]

These days Dubai is more expensive than Germany Mr. Ho, and it has been so for a long time. And no, per my tastes (and yours too because I know what you like), the fucking is not nearly as good in Dubai as it is in Germany. Tutes wanting to do less work for more money! Fuck them! So to speak. Hahaha!

Hmmm I do not like not good service part, like in eastern europe, my friend can hook me up with super model level stunner there, but it is always pain in the ass to negotiate for BBBJ! It is ridicoulous negotiation involving my local friend as many tutes in easter europe do not speak good enough english or no english even sometimes LOL!

But in dubai, it is disco set up, so you can negotiate before right? But I guess tutes there are more harden and spoil, so harder to negotiate on rimjob and even BBBJ perhaps! I will see how tute scene is, but I loved the set up and layout of the city, but not much true culture there beside bling bling, very arab style bling bling LOL!

I tend to be more for paris, kyoto and tokyo for city culture, paris can be more safer and clean with my hoping though! It got little more cleaner than before, but still dirty, but it got more dangerous!

[Mursenary]

I think German mongers probably do have a point that the influx of foreigners drove up the pricing. Even if all the foreigners were as disciplined as the locals were, just the sheer increase in demand would have led to higher prices or lowering of service quality.

The post pandemic price surge where basically only Germans were present in clubs has proved this to be a bit of a myth. In fact, this largest price surge in the history of FKKs happened under the "German only" watch.

[Mr Ho]

Mr. Ho, you have any plans of getting married one day?

NO! In capital letter and bald letter!

I do not see any point in marriage beside having kid, but I do not like kid that much, but I tend to love little cute dogs instead though LOL! But I love dogs! They are most lovely creatures in the world for me!

[McAdonis]

Interesting (to me anyway) factoid: Apple is now worth more than all German stocks combined. In fact, Apple is now worth more than market values of all stocks in all the countries of the world except a handful (US, China, Japan, Canada, India, France; may be I am missing one more). Shows how technology has transformed the world and Europe missed out on tech and keeps lagging further.

And who knows, if Microsoft appreciates another 20% (assuming German stocks don't), it too would have overtaken the entire capitalization of German equity markets.

Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie (VOC), better known as the Dutch East India Company.

"At its peak, the VOC was worth the equivalent of Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, ExxonMobil, Berkshire Hathaway, Tencent, and Wells Fargo put together. This means that the world's most valuable company, Apple, is worth about 11% of the peak value of the VOC.

It was also worth, roughly, the same amount as the GDPs of Japan and Germany of today added together."

https://dutchreview.com/culture/hist...india-company/

[Mursenary]

You should try opening this big book full of pages called a dictionary. They're Latin, not Latinas.

This is the distinction that not just he seem to not understand. Him due to his poor understanding of the English language, others due to an inability to see past simple sounds of mariachi bands I assume.

[Mursenary]

I am with the Cane on this one. In Spain they tend to prefer South American to Romanian girls from what I have gathered on the Spanish forums here. There is a more than discernable difference, Romanian girls just don't have the sexual energy and vibe of South American girls. They certainly don't compare to Brazilian girls, which I agree are outliers. I had been with a Columbian girl recently, and it felt totally different than an RO girl experience.

As to Romanians calling themselves Latin in the US, they might seem culturally Latin compared to Anglos, but they are more like Italians than Mexicans and Dominicans to me.

I doubt a Romanian restaurant would have the same vibe as a Mexican one, more like an Italian one.

Again all true that Romanians will be less typically Latin than Mexicans and true South Americans. Yet still, Latin flair nonetheless. Certainly on par with Italians and Spaniards and more than any other ethnicity / nationality on this earth. Not much different than definitively Latin Argentinians.

The point is to examine their actual culture in the spectrum of the Latin cultures, not to win an argument.

[Mursenary]

The unlearned part is that which you left out this time. To assert that Romanians are more Latin than even Italian or Spanish people are. Please! Yes, I do find that to be outlandish. I'm not here to debate you on that. And go easy on all of the stereotypes of Latin peoples man. Plenty would not appreciate it.

Your opinions versus mine.

Like I said, when Romanians in America refer to themselves as Latin people, I'll take their word for it.

[Pessimist]

Always depends on the point of view. Now I am not saying that you are American but just as an example from my experience the American mongerers I met were all known of overpaying significantly as they have (relative) high income and pretty young girls are quite expensive in the states. So spending 300-400 euro in an FKK was huge value for them but all the European guys were just shaking their heads. For a German salary spending 300 bucks for a day in an FKK is really not "cheap" or great value at all. Thats fking expensive already. Especially given the nature of prostitution in Germany where the customer is literally supposed to pay for any and every extra possible. Want to make out? Pay extra. Want to eat her pussy? Pay extra.

So all in all FKKs can be an amazing experience but for someone that wants to fuck at least 3-4 girls in a week its quite expensive.

Per day spending is not a particularly insightful metric, is it? If I take 2 sessions per day v 6, my own spending fluctuates; likewise, what extras I consume will also have an influence and if I yielded to the outrageous demands from some Asian hunters and took sessions at 200 for 30 min.

If your complaint is that Americans or in general foreigners overpay for services and hence drive up pricing, I think that has been beaten to death in this forum and is one of the perennial hot topics.

Personally, I'd blame Asians more than Americans, but then again I am not an Asian, so there is a bias there.

I think German mongers probably do have a point that the influx of foreigners drove up the pricing. Even if all the foreigners were as disciplined as the locals were, just the sheer increase in demand would have led to higher prices or lowering of service quality. On the other hand, like Americans did, Germans too did benefit from the import of deflation from Asia, particularly China for nearly 40 years. Most of the goods you purchase in your every day life would have been more expensive had China not existed. So, it goes both ways. I can see that for unattached mongers, sex budget as percent of total spend is higher, hence you care more about inflation in this particular area. I get that. But when borders are opened up, you get flows in both directions. Clearly Germans did benefit from having open borders with Rom / Bulgaria other E EU nations and access to girls willing to fuck for low amounts.