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  1. #16136
    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    Well siri, as for your sell love thing in FKK, no girls sell love, they sell sex and FKK is brothel where men go to buy sex, not love.

    There are some mongers who are so infatuated that they begin to think FKK is real thing, well it is not, it is just very good sex and you know there are some sad incident like monger murdering FKK girl because some monger begin to think money based sexual relation with prostitutes in FKK is real thing.

    So I hope you do realize these thing we do in FKK you are more mental, I am more sexual session are just sex and not love. I hope so for your own sake.
    I give love, sex is not enough for me, but low level for me. I pay for love in bed, but not outside clubs.

  2. #16135
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    I wonder what her chest looks like physically (other than simply being flat)? I've never been a huge tit kind of guy, so I don't mind smaller boobs. But if her chest is scarred from that procedure, then I'm sure that when the clothes came off, the attraction would fade LOL!
    When a girl goes to the boob doctor, typically she will get a set of choices that look something like this:

    https://i.pinimg.com/236x/4c/b5/3a/4...6180c1a759.jpg

    I keep telling the girls they should only select option (c) or (f), but sometimes they forget and the results are disastrous.

  3. #16134
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    140 CHF or 130 is for only 30 mn at Globe. As a cheap French, but I m not a rabbit, so, when I enjoy, 1 hour is even short for me. Had many 1 h30 for 390, 2 hours for 520, or even 2h30 but desk mistook to 550 , instead of 650 , very expensive at Globe, such rate only worth if wow beauty and for love in bed, for me. In some other Swiss clubs, rates are more flexible and less expensive for now same level and even most interesting for behavior girls.

    About Stella Palace, when she told: I don t sell love, she didn't interest me anymore, same for Reina at LR, when I am attracted by love games. She could leave but she stayed because she had no business. What I prefer is not to ask anything to the girl, just to speak about her, to look how she looks at me and what a pleasure to discover surprise in bed, when grocery market just kill my desire. Also what great enjoyment to make improving girls following my games. I could have tried Stella, but she was not interesting for me, and I never returned to try again, when I went weekly for 1 year for my Romanian who was so far higher level for me.
    Well siri, as for your sell love thing in FKK, no girls sell love, they sell sex and FKK is brothel where men go to buy sex, not love.

    There are some mongers who are so infatuated that they begin to think FKK is real thing, well it is not, it is just very good sex and you know there are some sad incident like monger murdering FKK girl because some monger begin to think money based sexual relation with prostitutes in FKK is real thing.

    So I hope you do realize these thing we do in FKK you are more mental, I am more sexual session are just sex and not love. I hope so for your own sake.

  4. #16133
    Quote Originally Posted by Pessimist  [View Original Post]
    .............The one I did like was Erin Burnett who is now on CNN but years ago when she was young and on CNBC, was hot in my eyes. Same with Kelly Evans on CNBC. About 5 years ago she was with Wall St Journal and was hot in those days. Now both are getting older and losing it.
    I'm partial to Melanie Collins, CBS sportscaster.

  5. #16132

    To Polyamorist, ctd

    Forgot to answer about personalities:

    I don't know much Romanians outrside FKKs. Yes, most of them are there to make money, I don't blame them, I still have fond memories of a few of them, but that's it.

    Japanese girls working in Sopalands are not there to extract any money form you: They get fixed pay, and no haggling during session ever. Actually asking for extras, say anal, and insisting in case she says no, by proposing more money might trigger a pretty vigorous expulsion form the place by pretty unpleasant looking yakusa men.

    Outside this area of business, Japanese girls are sweet, "kawai" but can become terribly jealous, on the verge of psychopath.

    I never engaged with any of them romantically for those reasons, But in a soapland, you have a nice, kawai, japanese girlfriend for an hour or more, who genuinely wants to please you.

    I would just add that some 10 years ago, I decided to learn basic Japanese, and that made my mongering in Japan much better, not only because I could access a few more joints, but also in my relationship with the providers during the session. And also increase dramatically my confidence in engaging with all the people in adult business.

    Last, I guess your question about becoming a sauna boy was tongue in cheek.

    Of course, no way, "Japanese only" as every gaijins have experienced in Japan.

    To conclude, there are currently 2 countries that I would love to be living in just now, and they are. Japan and Germany. Japan first choice. Stuck in Western Europe as of now.

  6. #16131

    To Polyamorist.

    Who asked me, on another thread, to compare FKKs and Japanese soaplands.

    The short answer: Can't be compared. I love them both, like tennis and golf, but they are different.

    Since everyone here knows FKKs, I will just say how different soaplands are.

    You choose your girl on a line up, or on a photo, on the premises. Like in a traditional old fashion brothel.

    You choose the duration of your session, usually 60/70/90, but can be 120 min.

    The session always goes like this: respectful greetings, she will gently disrob you, then strip off herself,; Depending on the girl some will deep kiss or otherwise just lip kiss. A light BBBJ can be given at the beginning. You then sit on the stool and she washes you all over, everywhere, while you can touch her. Then in the bathtub for another wash, then on the slippery mattress for nuru massage. Then on a bed, for a full BBBJ, DATY, FS, as often as you can cum and in any position until the alarm rings, she dresses you up, light kiss and that's it. For Anal, fingering, ask beforehand for a girl who does it.

    Access: In Yoshiwara, many more shops accept gaijins. Just walk in the area, and wait to be called. There is only one, Paradise, which is dedicated to foreigners. To my opinion, you lose the real thing, I always go to Japanese one. Language is not a problem, they will only show you girls who are comfortable with foreigners, and you can chat with her during the session with google translate. Girls who accept gaijins in Japanese soaplands are more curious, and that make the session more fun.

    Price: Shorter sessions can start around 25 K Yens. That is for "ordinary" soaplands, with "ordinary, next door kind of girls. If you want super extra models type, there are plenty, but be preapred to shed 100 K or more.

    As far as I know those soapalnds are the only places on earth where you can have a nice, relaxed full session with a true, real Japanese girl. With all the traditional serie that you only get in Japan. Most soaplands will have their driver drop you at the near subway station free of Charge after the session. That is, of course, if you behaved.

    I miss soaplands in the West, and I miss FkKs while in Japan, since, after a session in a soapland, I would love to hang on for a few hours in a FKK-like environment, watching naked girls passing by, etc.

    Japanese girls vs Romanians? In term of service, and in general terms, Japanese are way ahead. You may have, rarely, "ordinary service" in a soapland, but far less often than in an FKK. Although, of course, exceptions make the rule true. Standard service in Japanese soapland, is hardly ever reached in an FKK. Maybe a few of my old experiences in Bernd's were not that far.

    The above is based on personal experience in both Japan and Germany going back more than 20 years, and probably more than 500 girls altogether.

    To each his own, and there is no right or wrong.

  7. #16130
    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    German table could be nice, and best service, but with them, you must break the ice, they have to like you as a client, and they always try to upsell, they first say 200 euro per hour and I knew lulu from Artemis and I only been with her once before her too big tits job, but she kind of did the relation management for me and she took down the price to 150 euro per hour, which for me is reasonable price as long as I get GFE service all included for one hour for 150 euro.

    If you just go to german table straight, they just going to try to rip you off or give bad service. I always pay bit more to germans in german FKK, but they deliver most dirty sex for me with for me fair price of 150 euro per hour, not in globe zurich, I just pay 140 there, no upsell as you know.
    140 CHF or 130€ is for only 30 mn at Globe. As a cheap French, but I m not a rabbit, so, when I enjoy, 1 hour is even short for me. Had many 1 h30 for 390, 2 hours for 520, or even 2h30 but desk mistook to 550 €, instead of 650 €, very expensive at Globe, such rate only worth if wow beauty and for love in bed, for me. In some other Swiss clubs, rates are more flexible and less expensive for now same level and even most interesting for behavior girls.

    About Stella Palace, when she told: I don t sell love, she didn't interest me anymore, same for Reina at LR, when I am attracted by love games. She could leave but she stayed because she had no business. What I prefer is not to ask anything to the girl, just to speak about her, to look how she looks at me and what a pleasure to discover surprise in bed, when grocery market just kill my desire. Also what great enjoyment to make improving girls following my games. I could have tried Stella, but she was not interesting for me, and I never returned to try again, when I went weekly for 1 year for my Romanian who was so far higher level for me.

  8. #16129
    Quote Originally Posted by Pessimist  [View Original Post]
    Tbh, never found Kayleigh to be hot and shag worthy. If she gives away a free one and if I am backed up, yeah may be. But that's about it. Knowing now that she lost her tits, I will have to pass though.

    The one I did like was Erin Burnett who is now on CNN but years ago when she was young and on CNBC, was hot in my eyes. Same with Kelly Evans on CNBC. About 5 years ago she was with Wall St Journal and was hot in those days. Now both are getting older and losing it.
    Different strokes for different folks. Hope Hicks, Burnett, Evans. Why'all mentioning brunettes. Bring on the skinny blondes for me!

  9. #16128
    Quote Originally Posted by Polyamorist  [View Original Post]
    She was just doing her bit to flatten the curve.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWsimW9U0AMUcXI.png
    LOL, good one.

  10. #16127
    Quote Originally Posted by DioRetz  [View Original Post]
    Your story sounds very much like a normal fire drill but in an awkward place.

    Partly true. A German guy told me that the Turkish managers are very much this: managers. Who is the owner? A mystery to me. The initial motive for the raid was a link to the HA. What I did not mention yet is that the 'district' (Bezirksamt) of Berlin that Artemis resides in is 'Charlottenburg-Wilmersdorf'. By that time the Council of this district was controlled by the SPD and they wanted to end prostitution. A bit strange as this party has made prostitution in Germany legal. What political motive they had is not very clear, but politics were certainly part of the motive to raid Artemis. Now it is difficult to provide links with this info as most of it is in Archives of the papers.

    Yes, things have been great. And were improving a lot, lately.
    Yeah it was down then when I went back last summer, it is back up again and I was happy. I loved my sessions with all the girls especially German leyla, but I think she is half German half something. But all natural and beauty.

    Turkish owner is Turkish owners, it is two brothers, kenna is always at the club, white Bentley continental coupe parked in front is his car. Nice guy. Tough, but very polite.

    I don't know what's up with Artemis and feud with police and authority, but we must not forget, it is Berlin, the capital of Germany. So maybe it got to do with it too.

  11. #16126
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    Yes, big tattoo on arm for Stella and typical German behavior with total lack of elegance and charm, when my Romanian was elegant, classy look which gave her charm, closer to a normal life woman, when Stella was typical prostitute behavior, even she came in friendly way. For a lover in bed like me, Romanians are usually higher level for me, even Sandra at Sharks was GFE passionate but not wow look for me, Rachel GT was sweet GFE, Tabea at Sharks for my last room was also GFE passionate. Romanians are funny when telling: this is too much love with you, after you I can t work now. So I think: she won t want to repeat. But they return to repeat. Had one sometimes for 3 rooms in the night. When I saw too many girls who had elegance and charm when starting, becoming real prostitutes ready for anything for money. I remember my LR best FKK girl telling me about Daria, when Daria was the only one she worried about, because she felt I could return to Daria, I m not like her, meaning I'm much more class and chic, and Daria who read me, telling me: I know I'm not chic and pretty enough for you, but please, don t judge me. When I saw what claimed chic became, going with who she claimed she would never go, when I was so happy when Daria came to me so proudly, telling: I bought my flat, don t You think I m smart? So happy for her, for sure more smart than buying a car to a pimp with first month earning and needing to come back after 10 days, telling: I'm angry I need to come back so fast because I need money. To give to pimp. I m bored of prostitutes behavior and images, maybe why I don t miss. When Globe turned from chic to quite vulgar, I prefer now more cosy for elegance Amesia. Freubad is also not so bad. Of course I miss to play football at Oase which was my best club on 2019, with 2 real wow and about 7 other beauties, but problem is new beauties don t stay because Oase upselling oldies killed business, most often quite empty.
    German table could be nice, and best service, but with them, you must break the ice, they have to like you as a client, and they always try to upsell, they first say 200 euro per hour and I knew lulu from Artemis and I only been with her once before her too big tits job, but she kind of did the relation management for me and she took down the price to 150 euro per hour, which for me is reasonable price as long as I get GFE service all included for one hour for 150 euro.

    If you just go to german table straight, they just going to try to rip you off or give bad service. I always pay bit more to germans in german FKK, but they deliver most dirty sex for me with for me fair price of 150 euro per hour, not in globe zurich, I just pay 140 there, no upsell as you know.

  12. #16125
    Quote Originally Posted by Chongmal  [View Original Post]
    Just fly into Kiev. I can recommend the Premiere hotel chain for mid to higher level accommodations that are still female guest friendly. There are bars where almost every lady is working for 100 per hour. Even the guys on the corner outside clubs can take you to nice girls. Tinder is full of business ladies. Perhaps check out the threads on Kiev.
    LOL You cracked me up, I have been to Kiev and I did stay at premier palace LOL. I love the swimming pool with glass ceiling and also I went to monger in this famous boat, but I did not like quality of girls and me and my friend ended up at cabaret bar in premier palace on top floor and found a very good prostitute there which I fucked in room later LOL. I also had contact in Kiev and he organized my banya session, which is sauna, when Russian guy say let go to banya most of time, it is to monger LOL!

    Girls at Banya my friend organized was stunners of stunners, but I must say I prefer german FKK, I somehow like it best at German FKK. I like solo travelling for mongering and in eastern europe, I need help of my friends to organize girls or go to places and I must say girls are only stunner of stunner like 9 above when my friends organize it for me and I cannot ask every day, so I prefer solo mongering trip, I feel so free when I am on German FKK trip or Zurich one.

  13. #16124
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    Did you know that Kayleigh had a preventive-measure double mastectomy? I wonder what her chest looks like physically (other than simply being flat)? I've never been a huge tit kind of guy, so I don't mind smaller boobs. But if her chest is scarred from that procedure, then I'm sure that when the clothes came off, the attraction would fade LOL!
    Tbh, never found Kayleigh to be hot and shag worthy. If she gives away a free one and if I am backed up, yeah may be. But that's about it. Knowing now that she lost her tits, I will have to pass though.

    The one I did like was Erin Burnett who is now on CNN but years ago when she was young and on CNBC, was hot in my eyes. Same with Kelly Evans on CNBC. About 5 years ago she was with Wall St Journal and was hot in those days. Now both are getting older and losing it.

  14. #16123
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    Did you know that Kayleigh had a preventive-measure double mastectomy?
    She was just doing her bit to flatten the curve.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWsimW9U0AMUcXI.png

  15. #16122
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    Did you know that Kayleigh had a preventive-measure double mastectomy? I wonder what her chest looks like physically (other than simply being flat)? I've never been a huge tit kind of guy, so I don't mind smaller boobs. But if her chest is scarred from that procedure, then I'm sure that when the clothes came off, the attraction would fade LOL!
    Ha, you're going to force me to defend a Republican! I'm not a big boob kind of guy either but think I'll still be all over that, scars or not. There's doggy style too! And odds are, it wouldn't be an issue, since girls have things put in their chests surgically with minimal cosmetic damage, having them taken out probably wouldn't be an issue either.

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