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  1. #14035
    Quote Originally Posted by Pessimist  [View Original Post]
    To be honest, if you have not visited prior to Jan 2018, there is no way to say that standard have declined in certain clubs in any way. It is all hearsay.

    Plus, one or two vocal writing members might influence others to concur with them. Pretty soon, that becomes a common view. The last thing we should do is propagate this myth, as if it is a given fact. We should simply state what we observe and then add our own personal views and not restate what the dominant view is on the platform. Anyway, that's my view.

    I am a new writer and have lurked here on and off. From what I recall writers here were saying club standards have been deteriorating even 2 or 3 or 4 years ago or what have you. As far as where the standards declined the most, there is no consensus. Vocal members play up their favorite clubs and denigrate other clubs.

    As they say grass is always greener on the other side and sometimes it would appear that grass was always greener in the past.
    If it helps some of the newer mongers to feel good by thinking the FKK lineups were same quality 3-4 years back as it is now on average, let's go with that. It's like kids in today's high schools and colleges see mostly obese girls (or guys) and think that's the definition of beauty. No point bursting that bubble with the reference of history.

  2. #14034
    Quote Originally Posted by Jolokia  [View Original Post]
    Why it is better deal when you visiting Romania with the girl? While inside Romanian she will want to visiting her family and not the customer I think. Does she expecting you to pay her plane ticket from Frankfurt? And why not take the girl to other Schengen vacation area instead for 400-500 daily?

    Also there is concern of safety when customer is alone in Romania outside of FKK. The girl, no matter how nice she was in saunanclub, can make you easy target for robbing in Romania by the Romanian boyfriend, pimp, or mafia gangs.
    Sounds like you never had the luck of knowing a WG in a personal level. Try to have that human connection, then comment on the rates, safety etc? You might have a different opinion when an WG invites you to her home country, even buys your flight tickets and arranges your accommodation.

  3. #14033
    Quote Originally Posted by Colforbin  [View Original Post]
    Unfortunately, I didn't start visiting Frankfurt until January 2018, so I don't know what is what like before the law change, but from reading the forums it sounds like the quality has gone downhill. And I am referring to the registration law, not the condom law. It has to be 95%+ Romanian girls in these clubs. I'd like to see a wider variety.
    Colonel Forbin I know why you've come here

    And I'll help you with your quest to gain the knowledge that you lack


    It's true, the bureaucracy discourages local girls and high-quality girls in general from coming in to FKKs, so the ones that show up are increasingly the products of an assembly line and feel less and less real. They are dependent on their "managers" for accommodation, visas, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Colforbin  [View Original Post]
    I'm moving on to Switzerland now. Sounds like Globe has more of what I am looking for.
    Globe is better, but even there the stars are starting to age and are in short supply, while the system is flooded with factory types.

    Just my 2 dirhams. 👳.

  4. #14032
    Quote Originally Posted by Colforbin  [View Original Post]
    Unfortunately, I didn't start visiting Frankfurt until January 2018, so I don't know what is what like before the law change, but from reading the forums it sounds like the quality has gone downhill. And I am referring to the registration law, not the condom law. It has to be 95%+ Romanian girls in these clubs. I'd like to see a wider variety.

    I'm moving on to Switzerland now. Sounds like Globe has more of what I am looking for.
    To be honest, if you have not visited prior to Jan 2018, there is no way to say that standard have declined in certain clubs in any way. It is all hearsay.

    Plus, one or two vocal writing members might influence others to concur with them. Pretty soon, that becomes a common view. The last thing we should do is propagate this myth, as if it is a given fact. We should simply state what we observe and then add our own personal views and not restate what the dominant view is on the platform. Anyway, that's my view.

    I am a new writer and have lurked here on and off. From what I recall writers here were saying club standards have been deteriorating even 2 or 3 or 4 years ago or what have you. As far as where the standards declined the most, there is no consensus. Vocal members play up their favorite clubs and denigrate other clubs.

    As they say grass is always greener on the other side and sometimes it would appear that grass was always greener in the past.

  5. #14031
    Quote Originally Posted by Colforbin  [View Original Post]
    Unfortunately, I didn't start visiting Frankfurt until January 2018, so I don't know what is what like before the law change, but from reading the forums it sounds like the quality has gone downhill. And I am referring to the registration law, not the condom law. It has to be 95%+ Romanian girls in these clubs. I'd like to see a wider variety.

    I'm moving on to Switzerland now. Sounds like Globe has more of what I am looking for.
    The Forum is good for getting technical info or perhaps sightings of specific girls. Just remember that many posts are fueled by emotion and can be irrational. Mountains are often made out of a mole hill because you are getting a lot of very subjective and disjunct reports and experiences. Quality has not dropped as much as many say. As for variety, from my experience, Switzerland and Austria is also very Romanian dominant. If Germany are 90% Romanian, Switzerland is at best 80% Romanian.

  6. #14030
    In my limited experience it is not necessary to pay extra for services which always used to be the basic standard. To get this service for the price of 50 euros per 30 minutes does not require any compromise on optics.

    Of course, as perhaps BB69 was suggesting, I don't bother going to Sharks or Oase as I am not in a position to establish myself as a weekly regular.

  7. #14029
    Quote Originally Posted by Gino02  [View Original Post]
    ...Visiting Romania with her is even cheaper, about 400-500 e per day, or could even be free if she really likes you (doesn't need to "love" you)...
    Why it is better deal when you visiting Romania with the girl? While inside Romanian she will want to visiting her family and not the customer I think. Does she expecting you to pay her plane ticket from Frankfurt? And why not take the girl to other Schengen vacation area instead for 400-500 daily?

    Also there is concern of safety when customer is alone in Romania outside of FKK. The girl, no matter how nice she was in saunanclub, can make you easy target for robbing in Romania by the Romanian boyfriend, pimp, or mafia gangs.

  8. #14028
    Quote Originally Posted by Colforbin  [View Original Post]
    I just left Oase for a Sunday afternoon. Lineup was awful. Like a bad RLD quality. Nothing above a 6. Very disappointing. Worst lineup I have seen in my 2 years FKKing.

    Palace Saturday night was OK for me. 4 possibilities, with 1 stunner.

    Sharks Friday night was also disappointing. 0 stunners for my eyes.

    I love the FKK format with taking your pick from a room full of girls, but I am starting to think it is not worth the time and cost of traveling from the US. Unfortunately it sounds like the new law ruined FKKs and I missed the golden years.
    If you want to see few beauties who are in clubs, better to go on best casting days. Sunday at Oase is for sure not the best casting day, even on Friday 24 May, 3 of my 4 girls were not working, 1 is at home since Easter, 1 also at home, 1 should work but not, but I repeated with my last beauty and I wish she will understand. Also Michele, Estefania, Adela, Isabela, black Sara, a black model type, blond Stefani, Mady, Vera, Roxana, Alice silicon, Alina / Marina, blond Miki, Selena, Erika, also 1 with a bit reddish long hair who doesn't want to give her name, were working on this Friday. I was disappointed because I returned for my hot woman type who told me she would work, but didn t and next time we will have to talk again, I also don t go with many Oase girls because they are not interesting behavior for me, but at the moment, I don t see higher level for looks in Germany. Except Melissa and black Sara, I confirm for disappointing casting at Sharks on Friday 17 May, even Evita, Brenda, Rebeka, Jellis, ex claimed Greek Elektra, Leoni. De, Ester now silicon, Karin, Inca, Jenifer, Paloma, Debora, Selina, Selena, Sade, Edina, were working. Yes at Palace can sometimes find a beauty, but have to be lucky. Better to choose best days to visit to enjoy beauties.

    For higher level for looks, Globe Zurich for 130€/30 mn. Best days from Thursday to Saturday. Sometimes can find Globe level for look and in bed in Germany, sometimes even for 100 for 1 hour, I even had one for only 50 € for 30 very full minutes for our discovery and I returned to World on next Saturday, but for 1 hour.

  9. #14027
    Unfortunately, I didn't start visiting Frankfurt until January 2018, so I don't know what is what like before the law change, but from reading the forums it sounds like the quality has gone downhill. And I am referring to the registration law, not the condom law. It has to be 95%+ Romanian girls in these clubs. I'd like to see a wider variety.

    I'm moving on to Switzerland now. Sounds like Globe has more of what I am looking for.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pessimist  [View Original Post]
    Did you Ike these clubs before the law change in 2017?

    It is interesting that you like the visuals of girls in Palace but not Oase and Sharks. That is not the opinion of a majority I would think. However, for any monger, the non opinion that counts is what his own brain and dick tells him.

    By and large, the law led to prices going up for certain services as girls feel they can offer just covered blow jobs and charge extra for a BBBJ. It has not led to a reduction of the number of girls nor their looks in my view, at least in the mega clubs.

  10. #14026
    Quote Originally Posted by Colforbin  [View Original Post]
    I just left Oase for a Sunday afternoon. Lineup was awful. Like a bad RLD quality. Nothing above a 6. Very disappointing. Worst lineup I have seen in my 2 years FKKing.

    Palace Saturday night was OK for me. 4 possibilities, with 1 stunner.

    Sharks Friday night was also disappointing. 0 stunners for my eyes.

    I love the FKK format with taking your pick from a room full of girls, but I am starting to think it is not worth the time and cost of traveling from the US. Unfortunately it sounds like the new law ruined FKKs and I missed the golden years.
    Did you Ike these clubs before the law change in 2017?

    It is interesting that you like the visuals of girls in Palace but not Oase and Sharks. That is not the opinion of a majority I would think. However, for any monger, the non opinion that counts is what his own brain and dick tells him.

    By and large, the law led to prices going up for certain services as girls feel they can offer just covered blow jobs and charge extra for a BBBJ. It has not led to a reduction of the number of girls nor their looks in my view, at least in the mega clubs.

  11. #14025
    Just avoid all the tourists shitty clubs and you should be fine.

  12. #14024

    Sunday Afternoon Oase.

    I just left Oase for a Sunday afternoon. Lineup was awful. Like a bad RLD quality. Nothing above a 6. Very disappointing. Worst lineup I have seen in my 2 years FKKing.

    Palace Saturday night was OK for me. 4 possibilities, with 1 stunner.

    Sharks Friday night was also disappointing. 0 stunners for my eyes.

    I love the FKK format with taking your pick from a room full of girls, but I am starting to think it is not worth the time and cost of traveling from the US. Unfortunately it sounds like the new law ruined FKKs and I missed the golden years.

  13. #14023
    Quote Originally Posted by HankMoody69  [View Original Post]
    Prepare to be overwhelmed.

    1. Thursday should be ok.
    Thursday is dessous day at Oase, most girls will be wearing some lingerie. If you want to see most girls fully FKK naked on a Thursday, Sharks would be a better choice and an "wow! Experience" for a newbie.

  14. #14022
    Quote Originally Posted by Sabarone  [View Original Post]
    Frankfurt.

    I'm a newbie and I'll visit Frankfurt at 6th June maybe for 3 days.

    I've been doing research for the past couple of months about the German FKK clubs but a little bit confused about my choice.

    I would appreciate it very much if some of you can provide me with some info about Sharks and Oase.

    1. Probably I m considering visit Sharks or Oase on Thursdays. Is it a good day? I'm searching for best line up. How many girls probably will be up?

    Are they fully naked or in lingerie?

    2. I'm looking for PSE DFK DATY BBJ.

    3 . The half an hour session exists or always you have to take the 1 hour program? Is it possible to one of the services that I mention on half an hour program?

    4 . Is on June open the pool outdoors always or depending the weather?

    5. Is a jacuzzi on both clubs available?

    6. Do you think the choice of these clubs worth? Do you propose something else better?

    Thanks a lot for your answers and your time.
    Prepare to be overwhelmed.

    1. Thursday should be ok. These clubs are huge and there are plenty of women throughout the week. Some only work the weekends. Most girls are fully naked. Some wear a hint of lingerie. If they're covered up, beware.

    2. Yeah, sure. Just negotiate up front. Don't go to the room without a full agreement re: services and cost. Ask for anything you think you might want just in case. I usually ask for DATY and only occasionally partake.

    3. I find that it's easy to get a 30 min session at Oase. At Sharks I have always chosen a 60 min session because we had great chemistry and I really liked the girl from the start. I've started to prefer 60 min sessions partially because I've gotten better at picking girls. Also, you sometimes get burned on a 30 min session. You probably want to do 30 min for your first session of the trip, and maybe even all of them, but some girls might refuse and other girls might give a poor performance or severely limit what you can do--possibly even limiting you to 1-2 positions. There is no recourse.

    4. The pools at both clubs are already open. The weather in Frankfurt has been beautiful.

    5. Yes, there are three on the upper floor of Sharks. I used one tonight. Oase has one you simply can't miss.

    6. You'll be fine. These are both good clubs. Good luck!

  15. #14021
    Quote Originally Posted by Sybarite2006  [View Original Post]
    2500 for 24 hours? That's about the going rate for high end escorts in Switzerland and London and ex pornstars. Which Globe regular was it? (You can PM if you want). Globe is 280/ HR so I guess that's a bargain from their perspective!
    That actually is about 100 per hour, so it is not too bad of price though long hours should given some discount, but who want to spend 24 hours with prostitute, max I can stay with them is let say 2 hours, I do not want to be with them for longer than that since I only seek sex with prostitute and not more.

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