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02-16-19 05:46 #13118
Posts: 6686Originally Posted by Neurosynth [View Original Post]
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02-16-19 05:41 #13117
Posts: 6686Originally Posted by Polyamorist [View Original Post]
Travelling will probably go through the roof. But it is hard to say if people will still waste hundred of hours playing computer games, or if sports, fitness and gym will be the new deal. You see a lot of rich people these days. Even computer geeks spending 10+ hours at the gym every week. 15 years ago that was an oxymoron.
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02-16-19 03:05 #13116
Posts: 811Brave New World
Originally Posted by Pistons [View Original Post]
Some will hate the laziness of it all. But it's better than people just hanging out on the streets starting fights.
Oh brave new world! Better get used to it.
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02-16-19 02:05 #13115
Posts: 1159Originally Posted by Polyamorist [View Original Post]
But it turns out that even animals other than humans will often behave in ways that game theory would judge as being optimal or highly optimized. The fact that animals without man's overgrown prefrontal cortex will, nevertheless, tend towards optimal behavior implies that behavior is innate rather than learned or deduced. I. e. It may have little to do with "rationality" and much more to do with a response to evolutionary pressure.
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02-16-19 00:37 #13114
Posts: 6686Originally Posted by Takedown [View Original Post]
When it comes to the dog argument, that person just finnished a room and hormones were all dead. While other people hearing his side side of the story just shook their heads in disbelief. But possessiveness is when someone cannot stand another person talking to a girl he considers to have ownership over, when being at a distance. Which is quite the mad idea in an FKK. Quite a big reason for many girls ending relationships with men nowadays is possessive traits like the guy freaking out if his girl talks to other men, according to a female friend of mine who works at a psychology firm.
Polygamy may be a cult, as that is one man having several wives. But a many to many (think like a database) polygamous structured society may not have to be one. I thought we were over this semantics discussion though.
As there are no such things as rituals, ceremonies, hierarchies nor holy / legal books (the defining characteristics of a cult) describing full out polyagous orgies. Only ones lassiez faire natural sexual ways. So I find it hard to agree with your cult description on what I have talked about here.
You do have a good point regarding culture having cult as a root word though. Every culture is cultist. And maybe that is why the world leaders (the people behind the politicians who actually have brains) are trying to fend off cultures, and melt them all together in a quasi multicultural environment. Because of all the hatred and 'racism' we see when cultures clash. The clash of separate warring destructive cults.
But ofcourse, unless people try to look outside the box, conflics will go on, and in 100 years or so, some lunatic crazed brainwashed cultural cultist will blow up a nuke where our families live.
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02-15-19 17:04 #13113
Posts: 1280Originally Posted by Pistons [View Original Post]
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02-15-19 15:39 #13112
Posts: 1280Originally Posted by Pistons [View Original Post]
It's funny that you say that opinions of others do not matter. That's exactly how court arbitration works. Word against word, and a third party determines whose version is more plausible. Apparently it was was made clear but not to your liking so the only option left is to vent frustrations on ISG.
Try as you might, when it's practiced by the majority of non-nutjobs, it's called culture not a cult. I know, same root words. I can see why that can be confusing.
To summarize, Monogamy is our culture. Polygamy is a cult.
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02-15-19 14:08 #13111
Posts: 6686Originally Posted by NickTheG [View Original Post]
But if you look at sales theory, and all these impulses we submit and receive, then that doesn't have to relate to clairsentience. It can all be subconscious. The same goes for the link between empathy, game theory and determinism.
Takedown: I wrote 2 long replies to that last comment you made there, but seems they won't allow it. I will just make a quick reply on the last bonus question you did: There is a book called "Combating Cult Mind Control" by Steven Hassan. And according to that one we can easily define monogamy as a 100% complete destructive cult. Polygamous orgies all the time societies without a hierarchy however is pretty much the opposite of a cult.
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02-15-19 01:02 #13110
Posts: 6686I will just make a short summary instead:
2: Even if money was the main contributor, then name calling is always a negative impulse that doesn't help. The only intervention was the pushing. Everything else was at the highest manners and shouldn't be any problem at all if one knows how to talk to people. But maybe you are right that we need to learn social skills in FKK's. What others mean is irrelevant when it is word against word.
About the bonus question: The only cult we have here is the monogamous cult. I once read a book called 'Combating Cult Mind Control' by Steven Hassan. He points to 4 distinctions regarding what a cult is.
One is hierarchical leaders. A fully polygamous society with orgies everywhere should not have leaders. But a monogamous society always has. Plus monogamous societies have a monetary structured society also. Very hierarchical.
The second one is books where rules are displayed. Monogamy has this today through laws and where people bind themselves through written marriage pacts. Nothing of this sort in a complete polygamous society full of orgies all the time.
The third one is ceremonies: Lets just say monogamous people have weddings. And some also celebrate anniversaries when it comes to monogamy.
The fourth one is rituals: You put on engagement rings and marriage rings. Nothing of the sort in a polygamous orgie based model.
Result: Monogamy is a total 100% destructive cult according to Steven Hassan's book. It brainwashes people, and must be thus be combated to avoid extremism, wars and all sorts of bad things.
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02-15-19 00:59 #13109
Posts: 988Originally Posted by Pistons [View Original Post]
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02-15-19 00:49 #13108
Posts: 988Talking about psychic abilities and interactions is not easy. I would rate clairsentience as a highly developed level of empathy.
But here we are talking about a context, where sex is instrumentalized / commercialized and the will or need to spend / earn money is the dominating force. So I assume we are talking about lower levels of empathy.
And there is another thing, not uncommon in the context of prostitution. For example, if men or women suffer from borderline personality disorder, it is a well known phenomenon that they can have a radar-like sensitivity of what the other needs / wants. But this type of "getting into the head of another" is not what we normally understand as "empathy".
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02-14-19 23:58 #13107
Posts: 6686Originally Posted by NickTheG [View Original Post]
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02-14-19 23:47 #13106
Posts: 988Originally Posted by Pistons [View Original Post]
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02-14-19 04:52 #13105
Posts: 6686Originally Posted by Polyamorist [View Original Post]
Edit: what I ment was: we don't know for sure how much of a choice we really have. If any. These are only theories. And far out philosophy, or physics. Determinism contradicts free will, and that is the only thing we can find out through a study.
https://cosmosmagazine.com/physics/does-free-will-exist-in-the-universe-that-would-be-a-no
(Takedown: maybe I subconsciously had a determined idea of testing your possessive trait there by moving up on a grey zone. And the test came out valid through an overreaction)
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02-14-19 04:42 #13104
Posts: 1280Originally Posted by McAdonis [View Original Post]