German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[Sirioja]

When so jealous followers change meaning for everything. Yes, I lost my desire for pretty and sweet Russian lovely Olga, my under confine escort, when I saw condoms in her bathroom dustbin and I really didn't need to count how many, when I just opened to put mine after sex, and first time I saw with her and felt desire left and never returned, even I enjoyed her for 5 times. I remember our first time, when she had a little white dog, she told it to stay on its place, but when I was taking care of her and she made little noises, nothing porn, so little dog also made little noises, but when she didn't answer, little dog came on the bed and was looking at me, female dog, we laughed with Olga. After she put it in bathroom, even I told her dog could stay on bed for lesson, but Olga was shy with her dog. But image make desire or not, same like in brothels, I have my standards for attraction, I'm not excited by prostitute image, I prefer to stop with girls who choose to get this image. They are free to decide and I'm free to stop. Easy, next.

[Mr Ho]

Sometimes I am sitting in the couch, maybe talking to another monger. When my number one target WG comes from the dressing room, I will abruptly end the conversation and walk towards her. This is SIMP behaviour, I realize this..

LOL That's me as well LOL! I always tell the fellow monger I was speaking to "a man got to to what a man got to do" and go and fetch her first shift of the day LOL!

[Mursenary]

My contention is that in the FKK context, relationships do not really evolve beyond the early stage, and also WGs tend to be the most extreme on the spectrum of girls with daddy issues.

The sad part is that WGs will patronize the SIMP behavior and reinforce any delusions of grandeur.

[AznHotBoy]

I would say those who did not find another jobs will come back and hey remember, this pandemic attack so many middle class and lower class, so I would say more young girls will join FKK industry once FKK reopen! Logical thought, isn't it? What do you guys think?

And most small business won't be able to hire again due to shortage of money if they even survive to exist through two years of corona shutdown! So not much normal jobs, but FKK is always there to welcome all girls!

I would say many new girls from Germany and foreign land will join FKK!

Yea you guys are probably right. I think all that money I've made last year has gone to my head. These girls are probably not investing and have 0 income.

[Sirioja]

Sometimes I am sitting in the couch, maybe talking to another monger. When my number one target WG comes from the dressing room, I will abruptly end the conversation and walk towards her. This is SIMP behaviour, I realize this.

But after my room with her, I stop tracking her movements, I stop trying to get her attention, I stop "suffocating" her with my continuous presence, unless I have intention of repeating her on the same day. What time she last went to the room? Don't care. Did she go home already? Don't care. If she comes into the room (or leaves), I will stay seated wherever I was seated and probably not even look up at her. I do not do this to be rude, but if I do not have intention to go to the room with her later that day, I do not want to send mixed signals to her and waste her time, because I want her to find someone else to make money. But some mongers track their favorites one year after their last room together. Other mongers notice. Other WGs notice. Staff notices. Security personnel monitoring the CCTV notice. And if it escalates, and I hope it never does, maybe even the Polizei at some point. This type of behavior is more noticeable and observable at smaller clubs.

If I always stay 5 meters from a WG and stare, eventually she will notice this behaviour and come to me. I can use my eyes for minutes, sometimes hours to get her attention. If she goes to smoke area, I can wait five minutes, then walk to the smoke area, always staying 5-10 meters away. But I do not hover like this, because the easiest, most efficient approach is to just go to her myself and talk to her. I do not want to be in the club for 16-18 hours, or even her entire 10 hour shift. I want to go with three different WGs, and I need time between to recuperate, so for example 14:00, another 17:00, another at 21:00. If I want to keep this schedule, I can not waste time.

I don't know what is your SIMP, but I'm sure none of my regulars never took me to complain on desk and I'm proud of this, when had so many coming weekly to me when they could choose to go to others waiting. I agree girls are much more attractive to pay attention than guys and I pay entry for girls, I don't need brothels friends, I just need elegant beauties, I drive and pay for this. If I understand You well, 1 year after I stopped, I was so happy to drive weekly only for Daniela who was a really good surprise and I also couldn't go with another girl with her, I remember once a look like nothing came to rub on me when I didn't ask for anything, but I saw Daniela reaction, I got rid very fast of the other girl and went to Daniela. I didn't care when previous came to me when I was speaking with desk, but not about her when desk still asked me if I was waiting for her 1 year after I stopped, but about Daniela, to tell them she was the new and only one for my visits. But previous was so angry feeling humiliated and furthermore about Daniela and their story before brothel, but I didn't know before knowing Daniela, but previous could complain if I really harassed her, when she never took me to desk, I m pretty sure she would have preferred I returned to her like I already did twice, the only one I returned to after deciding to stop, even she was the busiest business and not needing much my money, but not many able to value her, but her new business image was not anymore attractive for me, making her so angry, maybe from her past private life experienced. Real facts: no girl took me to any desk and I remember GT desk asking: You come tomorrow? On each time I left. So many jealous guys, but they should just improve to get girls choosing them rather than waiting in frustration making them jealous, when I never run to get my regulars, I want they choose to come to me or at least a smiling welcome for Kate, this is very important for me, I would not be able to run after a prostitute when it s sometimes real effort for discovery. I remember when clubs reopened on June, I went to Swiss Dietikon for a Globe girl I noticed before closing, but after 3 months break with only 5 times with Russian Olga, not much for 3 months, but when I saw her and she was attractive enough for club rate and smiling when I arrived, but I couldn't go to her. When I understood I was not able, I drove back home full balls, not even thinking to return on next day, I was not ready to return to brothels and to go to prostitutes. So many jealous guys like a German guy at Sharks who was told, after complaining many times about me on desk but with no facts except once when I was working on my phone but nobody else complained, he is only a client like me, even German, but just not more than me, when Megan came to me weekly, also her full smiling choice, to start her day with a safe, relaxing room with a bad but the most respectful guy valuating them as women, to give them courage, when it was same at LR, must be a real reason for weekly same choice, rather than my threats on girls. Only facts count for me in brothels, not jealous bullshits, I can just understand she turned angry, knowing a bit about her life, when I would have preferred she didn't change, lose lose when she was my best student for sex, when brothels have to be win win for guy and girl. I wish her the best woman life and to be free to enjoy her money she made, not to buy car to pimp. I work to buy my cars or holidays or brothels.

[BigBuddy69]

Sometimes I am sitting in the couch, maybe talking to another monger. When my number one target WG comes from the dressing room, I will abruptly end the conversation and walk towards her. This is SIMP behaviour, I realize this.

And when you check the trashbin of a WG in her hotel room to count the number of condoms, is it some kind of SIMP behaviour?

[BigBuddy69]

Apparently driving and working can co-exist!

Of course.

If you're a (taxi / truck / ambulance) driver.

Or if you're Ryan Gosling and you work for the mob.

[McAdonis]

My rule is very simple: I go to some for discovery, I may come again to repeat on same day because they are usually not used to a guy repeating on same day, I was her first when she worked since 3 weeks, but after showing them how I treat them, I don't run anymore, they choose to come to me or not, and real facts talk a lot for my results.

Sometimes I am sitting in the couch, maybe talking to another monger. When my number one target WG comes from the dressing room, I will abruptly end the conversation and walk towards her. This is SIMP behaviour, I realize this.

But after my room with her, I stop tracking her movements, I stop trying to get her attention, I stop "suffocating" her with my continuous presence, unless I have intention of repeating her on the same day. What time she last went to the room? Don't care. Did she go home already? Don't care. If she comes into the room (or leaves), I will stay seated wherever I was seated and probably not even look up at her. I do not do this to be rude, but if I do not have intention to go to the room with her later that day, I do not want to send mixed signals to her and waste her time, because I want her to find someone else to make money. But some mongers track their favorites one year after their last room together. Other mongers notice. Other WGs notice. Staff notices. Security personnel monitoring the CCTV notice. And if it escalates, and I hope it never does, maybe even the Polizei at some point. This type of behavior is more noticeable and observable at smaller clubs.

If I always stay 5 meters from a WG and stare, eventually she will notice this behaviour and come to me. I can use my eyes for minutes, sometimes hours to get her attention. If she goes to smoke area, I can wait five minutes, then walk to the smoke area, always staying 5-10 meters away. But I do not hover like this, because the easiest, most efficient approach is to just go to her myself and talk to her. I do not want to be in the club for 16-18 hours, or even her entire 10 hour shift. I want to go with three different WGs, and I need time between to recuperate, so for example 14:00, another 17:00, another at 21:00. If I want to keep this schedule, I can not waste time.

[McAdonis]

You're giving too much credit. Real (western) women have been like this for his age group also. It is not a new phenomenon for GenZ. Gen X and millennial women have also been creeped out by those "SIMPs" for decades. Only men who think differently are men who lack the experience with real women and base their beliefs on 80's and 90's romantic comedies.

I would say Western countries emphasise individual happiness over the family unit, relative to decades past. That is not to say all young fathers use drugs, party with their friends, and neglect their young daughters, but I believe Western society is slightly less judgmental towards this type of selfish behaviour. In the past, when religion was a stronger guiding force, society forced a lot of unhappy couples to remain in wedlock. But perhaps to avoid a unhappy marriage, these fathers focused more attention on their young daughters and exhibited more SIMP-like tendencies towards them.

Now, once women were allowed to be financially independent, divorces shot up in Western countries. This trend started in mid-1960's and peaked in early 1980's, so the Gen-X women born in early 1960's would have been the first generation of children to grow up in single parent homes. Divorce rates in 2020 are at a 50-year low but that is really only due to the fact that less people in Western countries marry. The number of single-parent homes are currently at their all-time high, so this revulsion toward SIMPs has probably become more increased over time.

YNow my statement is geared towards high-value women. Fatties and desperate, divorced moms might actually like all that hokey, "treat them like a real woman" bullshit. Besides secured finances, high-value women (regardless of GenX, millennial, or GenZ) want a dude who's actually fun to be around and who fit into their social in-group, not some sappy, weirdo who imitates PePe LePew.

Yah, in addition to being more desperate, I think most women get burned and learn from past mistakes. That is not to say that older women want a complete SIMP, but they probably become more appreciative of SIMP-like tendencies as they gain more life experience. As the relationship advances beyond the early stages, more SIMP behaviour is expected and appreciated. My contention is that in the FKK context, relationships do not really evolve beyond the early stage, and also WGs tend to be the most extreme on the spectrum of girls with daddy issues.

[Mr Ho]

Sounds about right those homes aren't going to finish themselves. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of them are broke from their lifestyle.

Some may have regulars or escort job on the side, but FKK makes more money, so they will be back and there will be new girls due to outcome of pandemic economy destruction, especially from middle class and lower class family! My opinion! It may take a while to new girls to figure out the platform to work though as FKK is not known for all girls!

[Palcon]

I would say those who did not find another jobs will come back and hey remember, this pandemic attack so many middle class and lower class, so I would say more young girls will join FKK industry once FKK reopen! Logical thought, isn't it? What do you guys think?

And most small business won't be able to hire again due to shortage of money if they even survive to exist through two years of corona shutdown! So not much normal jobs, but FKK is always there to welcome all girls!

I would say many new girls from Germany and foreign land will join FKK!

Sounds about right those homes aren't going to finish themselves. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of them are broke from their lifestyle.

[Mr Ho]

So you are roughly in FKK land for a 97 hour span, and you spend about 65 of those hours in the club. For the time window you provide, I calculate a maximum of 69 clubbable hours (21:00-04:00 on arrival day, 11:00-04:00 for three consecutive days, 11:00-22:00 on departure day). Some clubs open as early as 10:00 and as late as 05:00, so could be slightly more. There may be guys who regularly attend 5-7 days a week. But those guys probably do not have full time job and I would guess they live 15 minutes from the club and always attend the same one. If so, they they would need to average 9-10 hours over a 7-day-period to beat your 65 hours.

Apparently driving and working can co-exist LOL! I would say, never believe some of the irrational posters because it is all not even lie, but their hallucination LOL!

[ExpatLover]

I would say those who did not find another jobs will come back and hey remember, this pandemic attack so many middle class and lower class, so I would say more young girls will join FKK industry once FKK reopen! Logical thought, isn't it? What do you guys think?

And most small business won't be able to hire again due to shortage of money if they even survive to exist through two years of corona shutdown! So not much normal jobs, but FKK is always there to welcome all girls!

I would say many new girls from Germany and foreign land will join FKK!

Yes it is logical but things are looking more complex, many companies are relocating back part of their activities from China to Europe to gain on flexibility knowing also that China is no more the cheap hub it use to be. By doing this they are not going to Germany or France but in the cheapest countries in Europe which are Rumania, Hungary. This trend already started several years back and is only increasing with the pandemic and the willing to shorten the supply chain. All this to say that many new opportunities exist and will exist for Rumanian girls not to be a prostitute.

[Mr Ho]

I don't think most girls are coming back right after re-opening. It'll be another year after re-opening for the younger mass to return. The plastic older pros will be back on day one no doubt, but not my type. So with all that added up, we're looking at a roughly 2 year horizon. Assuming there is still any FKKs left for the girls to return to.

I would say those who did not find another jobs will come back and hey remember, this pandemic attack so many middle class and lower class, so I would say more young girls will join FKK industry once FKK reopen! Logical thought, isn't it? What do you guys think?

And most small business won't be able to hire again due to shortage of money if they even survive to exist through two years of corona shutdown! So not much normal jobs, but FKK is always there to welcome all girls!

I would say many new girls from Germany and foreign land will join FKK!

[Sirioja]

https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/simp/

There is a generational disconnect. Older guys were taught that being a "SIMP" is the proper way at courtship and romance. It is counter-intuitive and it may vary across cultures, but younger men ridicule this behavior and younger women find this behavior a turn-off. Showering attention on a girl is often not appreciated early in a "relationship" especially when the girl has a history of bad relationships. This standup-act from a comedian captures this perfectly: https://youtu.be/5xXJrVQmvb4?t=112.

If you are 50 yo and were dating 20 years ago, then understand that was a different world. For girls that were born in the 1990's or later, there is a high likelihood that the parents divorced (or the parents never married). In either case, the father was not a regular part of her life. So if a man is always present and responsive, she does not appreciate that. That simply is not the definition of love from a man. Again speaking about the earlypart of the relationship..

I didn't read links and I won't, but I m surprised you use bald fat French words, when I always write and think only on my own. About my best FKK girl who became a angry prostitute when I stopped with her, telling me I humiliated her, when I would have much preferred she stayed like she was when she started and she would have gotten me weekly for years, but I don't remember I ran after her in club, but did you see me? Maybe running and sleeping? But she always came to me when she started on each of my weekly visit, without needing to take appointment with her, when she could choose to go to another guy, but she never did, also sending me messages like a German who sent her at night when she was sleeping in Romania, what I was doing with Daria, or why I didn't come to her when I already stopped twice before really stopping. One here told me he saw weekly for months. When some girls think I'm in love because of how I treat them, when no other treat them the same, but I never told any prostitute I loved her, nor wrote on message of course, I can't love a girl who go to be fucked with other guys, not my fantasy nor excitement. Face de bouc or Chinese tic et toc are nothing compare to bed, when these girls have pimps for standards, she was just divorced but bought him a car with her first month earning, did you know? How could I know? And don't forget, she chose to come to me to start her day on so many times, and not the only one, Megan was waiting I was ready at Sharks. My rule is very simple: I go to some for discovery, I may come again to repeat on same day because they are usually not used to a guy repeating on same day, I was her first when she worked since 3 weeks, but after showing them how I treat them, I don't run anymore, they choose to come to me or not, and real facts talk a lot for my results.