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  1. #23542

    I beg to differ!

    Quote Originally Posted by Abox79  [View Original Post]
    There's a lot of jobs paying 50 Eu an hour, it's not that high a pay rate.
    First of all, we're not talking 50 euros an hour. We're talking 50 euros for half an hour! If you don't think that's a lot of money, especially for someone with no education or marketable skills which is the case for nearly all of these girls, then you're living on a different planet. Sure there are lots of high paying jobs, but not like that. And for the high paying jobs that do exist, these FKK girls are not viable candidates for those as what they mostly bring to the table is puss and ass. Oh, and a mouth! And that's it.

  2. #23541
    Quote Originally Posted by Abox79  [View Original Post]
    Yes, not many people do get a 100% pay rise. However, the 50/30 rate was in place for 20+ years. Not many people are paid the same as 20+ years ago. There's a lot of jobs paying 50 Eu an hour, it's not that high a pay rate. Like you say, if it's too much then don't pay it. Personally I never try and barter, it gives off bad vibes and invariably leads to poorer service because the girls think the guy is cheap.
    50 for 30 minutes = 100 for 1 hour. Girls who usually ask extras are most often not the prettiest nor best. Smart girls know better to make regulars returning weekly, rather than fucking for only one shot and guys will tell not to go, even I don t care about what guys tell. Telling a beauty is not good, can interest me, when I usually think I can get better.

  3. #23540
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    Anybody here ever get a 100% pay raise for doing the same job at the same place? I didn't think so! A price of 100/30 is bullshit, and doesn't have a damn thing to do with inflation! No, it has everything to do with greedy tutes taking advantage of the condom law. That's what it has to do with. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. How many jobs do we know of where one can earn 50 euros for a half hour of work? These tutes were already being paid top money. Apparently some believe that prostitutes, like colleges and colleges universities, ought to get away with jacking their prices up far above anything that looks like the rate of inflation. Like with the higher education industry, at least in the United States anyway, they know that pussy is something that's got to be had. Got to get an education to get ahead and got to get some pussy to get laid!

    The demand is there. And so they (the prostitutes) get away with charging outrageous sums of money without offering anything more, and sometimes even less. There's always a sucker who will pay it too, and even stand and argue on the side of the tutes. When I too get a 100% raise on the half hour to match theirs then we got a deal! Until then, look for ways to bargain for lower, more reasonable fees. Or just abstain and take your business elsewhere. Reading all of the recent reports, the action in Germany is sounding pretty pathetic right now. Given the proximity to the end of the pandemic crisis (I hope), I'm not surprised. I said from the start that we probably needed another year for the clubs to recover. It will be interesting to see how it goes for Mr. Ho during his upcoming trip. Mr. Ho please advise soonest.
    Some girls know they can ask what they want because Asians now back will pay whatever they ask. Was not same on last year without Asians, when had many 100/60 full GFE. I don t mind paying 150/60 when 30 mn are too short for my too intimate game, but for a top beauty and top GFE for my love sex. No girl like this on this year at Sharks when Katalea fell for freshness, Sofi. De asking 200/60 but not pretty enough for so expensive, even one of the prettiest at Sharks. No girl worthing 150/60 at Oase. Ukrainian Lana at Mainhattan could but I can t fuck her too small pussy, tried on 3 times on 3 different positions during our discovery but had to give up each time not to hurt her and she really appreciated my behavior. But I have good girls in NRW for 80/60 or 200/120 and one at Freubad for 180/60 . I just adapt, when cheap Gold have prettier girls than in Hessen now.

  4. #23539
    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    I used to smoke good dope in Zurich as it was legal for few years back then
    Basel starts a test program where a few hundred people are legally allowed to buy weed from some pharmacies. It's quite likely that in a few years weed is fully legal again in Switzerland. While drug possession and consumption are technically illegal in Switzerland, possession of small quantities for personal consumption is normally not prosecuted, people might get a fine but that's it.

  5. #23538
    Quote Originally Posted by DrPoon  [View Original Post]
    Yes this is a technique of police in the USA to stop white people from entering Afro American neighborhoods (or possibly Puerto Ricans).
    2 police cars blocking me at downtown entrance from airport, telling me: They will kill You. Also seen in Miami, at a crossroads, so many police cars arriving and helicopter for guys running leaving a shop. Funny to see in US crossroads with no traffic light, in France, would be daily big crashes. Less funny to see so many weapons in a car back, when so many crazy like Trump in US, killing children in schools. When they killed all Indians, wolves, bears and couguars.

  6. #23537
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    Anybody here ever get a 100% pay raise for doing the same job at the same place? I didn't think so! A price of 100/30 is bullshit, and doesn't have a damn thing to do with inflation! No, it has everything to do with greedy tutes taking advantage of the condom law. That's what it has to do with. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. How many jobs do we know of where one can earn 50 euros for a half hour of work? These tutes were already being paid top money. Apparently some believe that prostitutes, like colleges and colleges universities, ought to get away with jacking their prices up far above anything that looks like the rate of inflation. Like with the higher education industry, at least in the United States anyway, they know that pussy is something that's got to be had. Got to get an education to get ahead and got to get some pussy to get laid!

    The demand is there. And so they (the prostitutes) get away with charging outrageous sums of money without offering anything more, and sometimes even less. There's always a sucker who will pay it too, and even stand and argue on the side of the tutes. When I too get a 100% raise on the half hour to match theirs then we got a deal! Until then, look for ways to bargain for lower, more reasonable fees. Or just abstain and take your business elsewhere. Reading all of the recent reports, the action in Germany is sounding pretty pathetic right now. Given the proximity to the end of the pandemic crisis (I hope), I'm not surprised. I said from the start that we probably needed another year for the clubs to recover. It will be interesting to see how it goes for Mr. Ho during his upcoming trip. Mr. Ho please advise soonest.
    Yes, not many people do get a 100% pay rise. However, the 50/30 rate was in place for 20+ years. Not many people are paid the same as 20+ years ago. There's a lot of jobs paying 50 Eu an hour, it's not that high a pay rate. Like you say, if it's too much then don't pay it. Personally I never try and barter, it gives off bad vibes and invariably leads to poorer service because the girls think the guy is cheap.

  7. #23536
    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    I agree for the reason for the price rise of the session!

    As for the price justification, I am quite happy with the current rate as long as it stays that way and no more rise as 100 euro 30 min with the service being there can be justified, but more than that, it is getting ridiculous! If they raise prices more, I will switch to Escort in Germany which I presume will provide BBBJ considering higher pricing at escort?

    I never had the occasion of girls trying to buy them drinks or trying to sell me crazy rates like 200 euro per hour etc that I read in forum before, girls in FKK has been reasonable and nice with my experience so far! Only 1 bad session that actually is ok and another one bad session that there was no session as that one was my fault for not looking at her face close enough under good light, so I cancelled as we walked into a room and offered to pay 50 euro which she took with Romanian curse LOL!
    I meant 300 euro per hour not 200 euro as 200 euro sometimes they begin at 200 euro per 1 hour and I negotiate down to 150 euro LOL! I fell for 200 euro per hour session twice in 11 years, but hey, it was damn worth it LOL! But that is pushing my nerve though!

    However, I would also add that, if we were to take those stunner out and try to fuck them, it would cost much more and need to invest so much time, efforts and affection with a lot of sucking up to do that I hate to do! So for me prices are justified as long as I am not too ripped off and again FKK girls has been really reasonable and honest with my experience and in my opinion! Some were extremely generous with their service even when I sometimes went for just 50 euro 30 min session, but that is fading nowadays, but it is still there sometimes! Lets see how post pandemic FKK and post russian invasion FKK will be like! I think quite promising because as I always wrote, the downside of this global events are where mongers will benefit at LOL!

  8. #23535
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    Anybody here ever get a 100% pay raise for doing the same job at the same place? I didn't think so! A price of 100/30 is bullshit, and doesn't have a damn thing to do with inflation! No, it has everything to do with greedy tutes taking advantage of the condom law. That's what it has to do with. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. How many jobs do we know of where one can earn 50 euros for a half hour of work? These tutes were already being paid top money. Apparently some believe that prostitutes, like colleges and colleges universities, ought to get away with jacking their prices up far above anything that looks like the rate of inflation. Like with the higher education industry, at least in the United States anyway, they know that pussy is something that's got to be had. Got to get an education to get ahead and got to get some pussy to get laid!

    The demand is there. And so they (the prostitutes) get away with charging outrageous sums of money without offering anything more, and sometimes even less. There's always a sucker who will pay it too, and even stand and argue on the side of the tutes. When I too get a 100% raise on the half hour to match theirs then we got a deal! Until then, look for ways to bargain for lower, more reasonable fees. Or just abstain and take your business elsewhere. Reading all of the recent reports, the action in Germany is sounding pretty pathetic right now. Given the proximity to the end of the pandemic crisis (I hope), I'm not surprised. I said from the start that we probably needed another year for the clubs to recover. It will be interesting to see how it goes for Mr. Ho during his upcoming trip. Mr. Ho please advise soonest.
    Here here! At the end of the day, it was a 100% price hike. That's completely unacceptable.

    When someone reasons with "well in Spain, 100 e is the going rate," well hell, that's Spain man. No one in Thailand was saying, "well in America, it's $300 dollars so we should charge $300". Applying that logic to Germany is equally ludicrous to me. If you want to justify Spain prices in Germany, just go to Spain. The food and weather is better there anyway. Why would you want to bring that to German paradise? Such arguments is just justifying getting ripped off in a local economy due to lack of self restraint.

  9. #23534
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    Anybody here ever get a 100% pay raise for doing the same job at the same place? I didn't think so! A price of 100/30 is bullshit, and doesn't have a damn thing to do with inflation! No, it has everything to do with greedy tutes taking advantage of the condom law. That's what it has to do with. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. How many jobs do we know of where one can earn 50 euros for a half hour of work? These tutes were already being paid top money. Apparently some believe that prostitutes, like colleges and colleges universities, ought to get away with jacking their prices up far above anything that looks like the rate of inflation. Like with the higher education industry, at least in the United States anyway, they know that pussy is something that's got to be had. Got to get an education to get ahead and got to get some pussy to get laid!

    The demand is there. And so they (the prostitutes) get away with charging outrageous sums of money without offering anything more, and sometimes even less. There's always a sucker who will pay it too, and even stand and argue on the side of the tutes. When I too get a 100% raise on the half hour to match theirs then we got a deal! Until then, look for ways to bargain for lower, more reasonable fees. Or just abstain and take your business elsewhere. Reading all of the recent reports, the action in Germany is sounding pretty pathetic right now. Given the proximity to the end of the pandemic crisis (I hope), I'm not surprised. I said from the start that we probably needed another year for the clubs to recover. It will be interesting to see how it goes for Mr. Ho during his upcoming trip. Mr. Ho please advise soonest.
    I agree for the reason for the price rise of the session!

    As for the price justification, I am quite happy with the current rate as long as it stays that way and no more rise as 100 euro 30 min with the service being there can be justified, but more than that, it is getting ridiculous! If they raise prices more, I will switch to Escort in Germany which I presume will provide BBBJ considering higher pricing at escort?

    I never had the occasion of girls trying to buy them drinks or trying to sell me crazy rates like 200 euro per hour etc that I read in forum before, girls in FKK has been reasonable and nice with my experience so far! Only 1 bad session that actually is ok and another one bad session that there was no session as that one was my fault for not looking at her face close enough under good light, so I cancelled as we walked into a room and offered to pay 50 euro which she took with Romanian curse LOL!

  10. #23533
    Quote Originally Posted by BobNSuzy  [View Original Post]
    There is a difference between an African American neighborhood and a gang neighborhood. It might be hard to destinquish for everybody. It would be quite dumb to go a gang for a prostitutes unless they were operating outside their turf hiding it in a hotel. I have no idea why you have so much experience with gangs. I always thought gangs were rather silly. It is usually teenage kids throwing hand signs wearing their pants below their butt cracks. I don't know why someone would think they want to do business with 15 year olds pimping out a 40 year old drug addict that owes them money. She is going to give you the worse service of your life. There are not zones you go to for prostitutes in the USA that are in anyway acceptable. Gangs are really kinda ridiculous. You can't have a discussion with them much less do business with them.
    I know all about gangs due to living in gang areas which is most of the USA is infested with gangs due to the housing crisis and people unable to afford a safe place to live.

    On the contrary most gangs are pimping out younger women and the 40 year old women would not even be sold drugs unless they pay first. Thus gangs can be a good source of providers if the gang is operated in a businesslike manner and recuits new young girls.

  11. #23532
    Quote Originally Posted by BobNSuzy  [View Original Post]
    Just a random thought but what you all perceive as high quality weed is probably due to advances in lighting technology or maybe cheap knock offs of lighting technology. So maybe you can give the credit to China for the cheap knock offs. I'm not sure who gets credit for the original technologies. It could be Japan.
    Yes, I prefer indoor weed by fat as well! China can produce cheap, but as for now, they lack quality and they cannot produce quality product like Japan can do, but we are having problem China copying all our products illegally and there is no functioning law in China, so there is not much result in suing!

    We are responsible for many inventions, but for indoor lighting I do not know as it is special field that I do not inform myself about, but yeah, it is possible it is us as we focus more on top end quality technology that only we can make as that is our strength and survival strategy for 21st century as it is getting more and more competitive! When I think about LED lighting, a lot of technologies are us and Panasonic is the high end brand for LED lighting!

    I should inform myself more about indoor farming because we are what we eat right? But we overlook its blessing the farming industry providing us I think, but one thing for sure is that we are all grateful for other important supply of sex with young stunner beauties provided by FKK industry which is bit like indoor farming of stunner young girls to give us organic sex and in some FKK, we got indoor and outdoor options for sex just like weed LOL!

    I must add, I never tried Vaporizer weed yet! I would love to one fine day, but weed is tolerated in most nations in EU and not legalized, so hard to find Vape type weed from my West African business associates in the parks in Germany etc LOL!

  12. #23531
    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    Back in my teen years like bit more than two decades ago now LOL I used to smoke good dope in Zurich as it was legal for few years back then, so I used to get real top of the range staff at the coffee shop like pharmacy there where they sell weed in showcases all legally LOL! I roll it, then smoke it looking at beautiful swiss nature, then off to escort or brothels (No globe back then), oh holly molly LOL! Those sexual experiences high out of mind with full sensation was to this day among the best sexual stimulation experiences I had in my life LOL!

    I do that without weed now, but once it is legalize again, I will do the same! I used to buy weed from African herbal business men in the Parks in Berlin or took train to Venlo to buy weed and have amazing sex in FKK, but now I do it without weed and it is fine by me!

    Sex on drug is something monger should experience as it does raise sensation to maximum level! It is science backed! Just some are legal and some are not, also depending on which nation you do it as well! Funny how it works!

    Legalizing LSD and MDMA for medical use was hot topic during Davos economic forum, so legalizing many harmless drugs can be seen in let say 20 years time! I mean look at Thailand where it was famous for harsh punishment for weed is now moving to legalization of weed! So never say never!

    Meanwhile, my biggest drug and drive is fucking beautiful girls around the world! Nothing ever will beat that! Never!
    Just a random thought but what you all perceive as high quality weed is probably due to advances in lighting technology or maybe cheap knock offs of lighting technology. So maybe you can give the credit to China for the cheap knock offs. I'm not sure who gets credit for the original technologies. It could be Japan.

  13. #23530

    There you go!

    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    The USA in reality cannot be described as having puritanical morality. That is the image it wants to project. On the contrary the US is the most immoral country on earth. Unfortunately, there is a very high rate of sexual deviance and perversions especially among those who preach moral virtue.
    Tell it like it is! That used to be a "saying" LOL!

  14. #23529
    Quote Originally Posted by PahllusMaximus  [View Original Post]
    ...... Contrast that with USA and its puritanical morality....
    The USA in reality cannot be described as having puritanical morality. That is the image it wants to project. On the contrary the US is the most immoral country on earth. Unfortunately, there is a very high rate of sexual deviance and perversions especially among those who preach moral virtue.

  15. #23528

    Rising Rates

    Quote Originally Posted by Abox79  [View Original Post]
    I see a lot of guys posting on all the FKK club pages about the rates going up to 100/30. Can you guys that are bitching about this get a reality check? The standard rate across most clubs was 50/30 for many years so it had to go up some time, what did you expect, 50 plus inflation so maybe 65/30? How many of you guys bitching have not had an annual pay rise or increase outside of that? Exactly. Yes, Siri, I know some clubs are 60/30 still or whatever, I am just generalizing on the rate.
    Anybody here ever get a 100% pay raise for doing the same job at the same place? I didn't think so! A price of 100/30 is bullshit, and doesn't have a damn thing to do with inflation! No, it has everything to do with greedy tutes taking advantage of the condom law. That's what it has to do with. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. How many jobs do we know of where one can earn 50 euros for a half hour of work? These tutes were already being paid top money. Apparently some believe that prostitutes, like colleges and colleges universities, ought to get away with jacking their prices up far above anything that looks like the rate of inflation. Like with the higher education industry, at least in the United States anyway, they know that pussy is something that's got to be had. Got to get an education to get ahead and got to get some pussy to get laid!

    The demand is there. And so they (the prostitutes) get away with charging outrageous sums of money without offering anything more, and sometimes even less. There's always a sucker who will pay it too, and even stand and argue on the side of the tutes. When I too get a 100% raise on the half hour to match theirs then we got a deal! Until then, look for ways to bargain for lower, more reasonable fees. Or just abstain and take your business elsewhere. Reading all of the recent reports, the action in Germany is sounding pretty pathetic right now. Given the proximity to the end of the pandemic crisis (I hope), I'm not surprised. I said from the start that we probably needed another year for the clubs to recover. It will be interesting to see how it goes for Mr. Ho during his upcoming trip. Mr. Ho please advise soonest.

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