German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[Smoke Light]

Speaking of. Where do you guys keep your money? I have never been to an FKK (first trip planned in April). Do you keep it on you in your robe? In the locker room? How do logistics like paying a bar tab work, etc? I have read back about 100 pages in the threads, so apologies if this has been covered before. 99% of all the conversation is about fucking women (which is should be). Any helpful logistics on how to operate in an FKK (outside of the fucking) would be greatly appreciated!

Where do you guys keep your money?

Short answer: in the main locker. When you come in, you undress and change into a robe, organize your locker. Shoes, jeans, shorts, underwear. Your bag or backpack, condoms, mouth wash, perfume, tooth brush, anything else you consider having with you. Imagine how you want to organize your locker before you go to the club. Then do it. Once your locker is in good shape, store your wallet in an easy to reach manner because you'll need it after each room. I recommend to keep your main cash reserve in a safe of your hotel room. Not all hotels have a safe, in such case bring it with you and store it in your locker, but separate from your wallet. Pre-calculate how much should you have in your wallet. Add price of entry, base price of the number of sessions you will attempt, add 50 euro on top of each basic session, add more if you need extras, like anal. Then multiply everything by two, because IMHO you should never have to stress yourself by thinking you may run out of cash.

Most money stolen reported on ISG fall into the category of hearsay cases, like "I've heard." Because such cases are quite rare. Are money stolen from lockers? Yes, of course. However, it happens when people get drunk and lose control. Some get distracted because a girl asks for some extra, they rush to the locker in the middle of the session, get the money and forget to lock the locker. Sometimes people get distracted in the locker room when they are with friends. Remember to lock your locker before you go to shower or anywhere else, like to a mirror to comb your hair.

Another situation to watch out for when you take off your robe and go to a shower, you may hang your key on a hook and forget your key there, especially if you are in a hurry to be back in the main area of the club. So any time you ars rushed, remember not to lose control of your locker key.

If you want to be super vigilant, most thieves in gym locker rooms in the US operate as a team. One guy can strike a conversation with a potential victim, another goes to open his locker. So if you feel like something is not right when somebody is speaking with you, tell them sorry, I will be right back, and go check your locker. This is extraordinary, has never happened to me. In 2021 I observed a guy reporting to the front desk that all his money was stolen from his locker. I don't want to name the club. But the guy was on drugs, not thinking straight. He was at the club with a bunch his friends, 4 or 5 of them. The mgmt refused to help him. They said: we are not responsible for your personal belongings, as posted everywhere. Had he not been on drugs or drunk, I am sure the mgmt would be more responsive. I don't think it's a good idea to drink too much in a FKK club.

Do you keep the money on you in your robe?

No. Never. This is the worst idea. Very easy to lose. Very easy to forget when you dress and ready to go home. Someone (even a girl) could steal that money from you without you noticing. Max 20 euro if you want to pay for a drink at the bar. Remember to check the robe pockets carefully before you leave the club.

In the locker room?

Yes, as I already described. At the same time, bigger clubs have small locker rooms for your wallet in main areas of the club. Again, very easy to forget your belongings there when you leave. I use small lockers only for my condoms, small travel-size bottle of baby oil in case when I need a hand job, and maybe a travel-size mouthwash, if you want to disinfect after DATY while staying in the room with your lady of choice.

How do logistics like paying a bar tab work, etc?

As I said, only very small amount of cash in your pocket, otherwise a high chance to lose the money in your pockets.

[Steve 9696]

Speaking of. Where do you guys keep your money? I have never been to an FKK (first trip planned in April). Do you keep it on you in your robe? In the locker room? How do logistics like paying a bar tab work, etc? I have read back about 100 pages in the threads, so apologies if this has been covered before. 99% of all the conversation is about fucking women (which is should be). Any helpful logistics on how to operate in an FKK (outside of the fucking) would be greatly appreciated!

Here is my writeup on the basics. (I've written a private book on all the countries and venues and my best stories from each. This is just lifted from that.) Best of luck.

So what is this crazy FKK I speak of?

Imagine, if you will, a very large building -- perhaps a warehouse -- that has been lavishly outfitted inside with a men's paradise. Buffet, sauna, jacuzzi, massage, pool, bar, relaxation areas and attractive ladies galore. And oh, yeah, the ladies are naked. Did I mention they all want to fuck you? Use the onsite rooms for your carnal pleasures; then rinse and repeat -- as many times as you have stamina and money for!

The drill is pretty much the same at each FKK and, as you will see, it is designed as the perfect place to start your journey to a better life. You know on TV where the guy gets caught with perfume on his clothes or lipstick on his collar? That is never going to happen here because the Germans have engineered the perfect experience -- with virtually guaranteed no trace evidence left behind. Here's how it goes (I'll use Sharks in Frankfurt, my favorite, to describe it):

When you enter the FKK, you pay your entry fee ($90-100 USD at nice ones) which entitles you to the full use of the facility and its amenities (sauna, buffet, lounges, non-alcoholic drinks). Alcoholic drinks, massages, and girls' services are extra. You are issued a towel, robe, flip flops, and a wristband with a key and they point you to the locker room. Here you get out of your street clothes, take a shower and suit up in a towel or robe and head into the club. Bring your wallet and condoms with you, as you will put these in a separate small locker when you enter. (This is important, because after a session you need to pay the girl and you don't want to have to go back to the locker room to do this.) Prepare to be amazed!

Sharks is huge, with 50 foot ceilings and there are girls everywhere. There is a big central bar where you can get your favorite cocktail or beer and start figuring out who tickles your fancy. If it's your first time here, you will be overwhelmed with selection. Blondes, brunettes, big fake tits, A cups, short, tall, skinny, thick. It's all here -- and they are all pretty in their own way. Just settle in and enjoy the spectacle. Generally you will have a few thoughts in this order:

This is fucking amazing!

Surely this can't be legal!

This must be what heaven is like if god knew what the fuck he was doing!

You will probably be approached by one or more girls who want you to go to the room with you. Almost 100% of the time you should NOT go with these girls. They tend to be the ones needing business or planning to shark you for big money. You are better off seeking out the girl you want if you are a newbie.

The general drill is to make the most of your entry fee and spend as much time at the FKK as humanly possible. Find a girl, negotiate the fee / services (generally 50-100 E / half hour) and head to the room. Do your thing. Now, comes the hardest part -- relax and recharge. You can try to find a quiet corner, but invariably you will be assaulted by various girls wanting you to go. Hold out. Go to the buffet, sauna, get a massage. Recharge. Go again. Rinse and repeat until you can go no more! It is also possible to leave the club and come back the same day -- just make sure to tell them you are returning.

Now bear in mind that FKK can vary widely in the awesomeness of the facility and / or girls. So what I describe primarily relates to the biggest and best in and around Frankfurt. Everywhere else may be a shade (or more!) less awesome in the food or the facilities or the girls; but the idea is generally the same.

[DaWong949]

Speaking of. Where do you guys keep your money? I have never been to an FKK (first trip planned in April). Do you keep it on you in your robe? In the locker room? How do logistics like paying a bar tab work, etc? I have read back about 100 pages in the threads, so apologies if this has been covered before. 99% of all the conversation is about fucking women (which is should be). Any helpful logistics on how to operate in an FKK (outside of the fucking) would be greatly appreciated!

You have two lockers. The big one is for you to store your clothes, shores etc. The small one is for you keep your money, cell phone etc. I have been to FKK since 2015, never have any issues at any clubs.

[Sirioja]

I have never been stolen in sharks. But I've heard rumors of theft several times. At first I was skeptical, but since I've seen this story from different contributors here, on google maps and on blogs, it's likely that it's happening. Even if you are a regular, don't let your guard down. We have nothing to worry about if we are well-prepared.

My meaning was if You don t lose your head nor key, you should not be stolen if you are able to control with girls. Some leave clubs forgetting their head. I only forgot about my money back from entry at Bruggen when I was welcome by some girls coming to me on desk while paying, but then desk girls ran after me in locker to give me back. I was threatened at Sharks, not by Balkanians, but never heard about thefts when cameras in locker. So many stories in this business. I only trust what I saw.

[YyzTravel]

Some lose brain seeing naked girls. Many times I found keys when I never lost mine in brothels. I never use small money locker, I was never stolen on my not far from 1000 visits. Only Swiss administration stole my life.

Speaking of. Where do you guys keep your money? I have never been to an FKK (first trip planned in April). Do you keep it on you in your robe? In the locker room? How do logistics like paying a bar tab work, etc? I have read back about 100 pages in the threads, so apologies if this has been covered before. 99% of all the conversation is about fucking women (which is should be). Any helpful logistics on how to operate in an FKK (outside of the fucking) would be greatly appreciated!

[McAdonis]

I posted this to say that we here who comment on ISG are the hardcore mongers. We are among the very few who constantly need to bang super hot girls on a regular basis. We are in a small minority even among mongers.

I agree. I would add that our tastes do not really drive the market. Your read this forum and other FKK forums, the talk centers around WGs who are young, thin, no tattoos, no silicone, no botox face, DFK, GFE. I would say ISG skews more toward white-centric WGs than the other FKK forums.

Most casual mongers do not care about such things. Majority of the mongering activity in Germany happens in Laufhaus. For the younger guys this represents the cheapest option. For the married guys, this represents the quickie option during their lunch break and when running errands. These casual mongers are not morally or religiously opposed to sex, but I think many casual mongers just consider WGs dirty. Yes, there are LHs that exist that cater to AO, but most LHs are known for offering for giving listless, sanitized sex. At LHs, this is par for the course: clientele finishes in under 10 minutes, does not want DFK, does not want BBBJ, does not chat her ear off, may not even expect her to put her smartphone down during the sexual act!

With regards to optics, ISGers seem to be more demanding. And perhaps our tastes represent the fact that most of us are 40+. Millennials and Gen-Z are into different optics and have different fetishes. For one MILF porn is one of the most searched terms. Newer ones are step-sister or step-mom porn. If we look at what is popular on PornHub this month, not a lot of the stars I would characterize as "fresh". Three of the top thirty do not even show their face: https://www.pornhub.com/pornstars.

[McAdonis]

Why would so many men enjoy something so much but choose to not make it a recurring past time while others do? For the latter, it's likely a function of 1 of 2 things, perhaps both for some / many.

1st. Simple addiction to easy sex with perhaps some hypersexual tendency.

2nd. Lack of something else that has meaning and joy.

How likely is it that the first option makes up the majority of mongers?

Easy sex would be a WG in your immediate vicinity. Might be lower optics. Might be pricier. But it is the most convenient and easiest. And if we are talking about purely physical, biological needs, then some lotion and an Internet connection should be sufficient.

Not all ISGers are that hypersexual in the physical sense. Hypersexual would be to me "Quantity over Quality". Many hardcore mongers log a lot of zero pop, zero room days. Not even talking about going hard on day one, and needing a recuperation day. But someone who on a 7-9 day trip, deliberately keeps a slow pace, hoping to find their unicorn. If they are lucky, and find that wife for the trip, they will go in confident knowing that they have conserved all their ammunition (sperm, money) for her. If they are not fortunate to find their unicorn, then the last 1-2 days of their trip, they make a practical decision to lower the bar and settle and get some pops in before flying back home. For the "unlucky" scenario, that might look like two rooms from Day 1 to 7 and four rooms on Day 8 and Day 9. Not exactly hypersexual.

Hardcore mongers I would characterize as maximizers. There are two variations of maximize. First, is having a narrow optic spec. Common one might be someone who chases a Western European, Aryan, Germanic look, for instance someone who could have played the "hot girl" in some 1980's American teen movie. My ideal spec is just as rare as the aforementioned. And if I were to strictly adhere to my spec of slim, thin legs, big naturals, there would only be one WG in FKK land who meets that spec, perhaps two. But I do not like to pay entry and not room, so I have conditioned myself to expand the definition of doable. But even then, I do not think I ever classify 20 percent of the LU as doable. The other variation of the maximizer is the hardcore monger who never repeats. This is rarer amongst fly-ins, but these mongers could probably find 70-80 percent of the LU doable, but need to constantly log kilometers, rotate clubs to find new, fresh WGs.

But I think many casual mongers are happy with "good enough" and do not seek to maximize. There is zero curiosity about what better options might exist outside of their local area. Slightly overweight, age 35-45 WGs? No problem. They just go monger at the most convenient spot for them, get in, and get out. They may be even be fine repeating the same WG for months or years. These guys have zero need to read forums. They do not care that a club six hours away from them just reopened, or some club an ocean away just got some fresh Romies off the bus. They only care about the club or brothel closest to them.

[PaulInZurich]

1st. Simple addiction to easy sex with perhaps some hypersexual tendency.
2nd. Lack of something else that has meaning and joy.

There are as well the guys who keep looking for a "relationship" sometimes subconsciously. It's the guys who always go to the same WG, sometimes for years. It takes them a long time to realize that the WG was just playing the role that will maximize how much money she can extract from such a guy. Then they get jealous if they see the WG with another client. FKKs are not for emotional needs.

[PaulInZurich]

1st. Simple addiction to easy sex with perhaps some hypersexual tendency.

2nd. Lack of something else that has meaning and joy.

When is it an addiction? I would argue it's a combination of money spent relative to wealth and time spent relative to free time available. If you spend 100 k per year but have 20 millions in the bank it's different than if you spend 50 k per year but earn 100 k. If you are retired and live close to a club and go the club a few times per week for 2-3 hours it's different than if you are still working but you spend all your weekends in the clubs or getting to the clubs. Most of these people will argue that they can stop anytime they want, but they are always back after a break of at most a few months.

[Sirioja]

I keep to myself at mongering destinations but in 2016 I met a fellow American at Sharks, he sat at the table I was at to eat with me. He was cool and we entered into conversation. I met him at Sharks the following year and we immediately started chatting. He visits Frankfurt annually for business and I met him also in 2018 and 2019. Our mongering styles were very different. He would be quite happy to sit, drink, chat and look around admiring the girls. He was in his 40's and would never be in predatory mode looking for the hottest stunner to bang. As a matter of fact he would choose one of the least good looking girls in the club, a girl I would not think of banging. This is weird considering that he visited the club only once in his annual trip and would only take one girl in that visit.

I posted this to say that we here who comment on ISG are the hardcore mongers. We are among the very few who constantly need to bang super hot girls on a regular basis. We are in a small minority even among mongers. The gent I referenced above was actually a lurker on ISG. I told him I was a lurker too, LOL.

No, we are all different. I visited 5 clubs on this week end. Despite ex Corali Sharks and model type Cameron, 0 room at Samya. Despite German Anabel and Dolli, 0 room at Bab. Few attractive looks at Magnum, but 0 room for vulgarity or lack of charm. I was so happy to find a 40 yo woman at Gold, my first ever 40 and much more interesting as woman and for sex than most of 20. I couldn't believe she is 40, I would be happy to return to her high GFE level. You nearly feel like at home.

[ZugVogel]

Some lose brain seeing naked girls. Many times I found keys when I never lost mine in brothels. I never use small money locker, I was never stolen on my not far from 1000 visits. Only Swiss administration stole my life.

I have never been stolen in sharks. But I've heard rumors of theft several times. At first I was skeptical, but since I've seen this story from different contributors here, on google maps and on blogs, it's likely that it's happening. Even if you are a regular, don't let your guard down. We have nothing to worry about if we are well-prepared.

[Mr Ho]

This will only self perpetuate. By the young guys choosing to be hobbyists and avoid the marriage trap, then this will leave young girls available with nothing to do except to do walk on summer provider work.

I think financial insecurity and also the greed of these young girls wanting some 10000 euro bags and this and that life style brainwashed by media and sns make these girls walk into main bar of FKK for their summer holiday LOL!

They used to say, spring break and they think of some beach resort, modern young stunner do their spring break and have wild holiday in FKK with us mongers LOL!

[Sirioja]

If the key wasn't broken, the criminal would have used the key to open the locker. Now, who could have the key other than the victim? LOL.

Some lose brain seeing naked girls. Many times I found keys when I never lost mine in brothels. I never use small money locker, I was never stolen on my not far from 1000 visits. Only Swiss administration stole my life.

[DrPoon]

In the short term, there will be lot more single girls, meaning more girls for the FKKs. More girls will try to stay in shape to compete. And most importantly, less people cheating worldwide, and fucking honestly.

Big problem in the longer term will be that there will be less and less people born in the world, unless we become a society full of orphan kids, kinda like animals!

There will be plenty of Mexicans and AfroAmericans born and they will take over the demographics.

[Turgid]

Not just Americans. Most men just monger locally and occasionally. Or they mongered a few times in their life and stopped completely. So the idea of attending a sex club everyday for one or two weeks holds zero appeal.....

I keep to myself at mongering destinations but in 2016 I met a fellow American at Sharks, he sat at the table I was at to eat with me. He was cool and we entered into conversation. I met him at Sharks the following year and we immediately started chatting. He visits Frankfurt annually for business and I met him also in 2018 and 2019. Our mongering styles were very different. He would be quite happy to sit, drink, chat and look around admiring the girls. He was in his 40's and would never be in predatory mode looking for the hottest stunner to bang. As a matter of fact he would choose one of the least good looking girls in the club, a girl I would not think of banging. This is weird considering that he visited the club only once in his annual trip and would only take one girl in that visit.

I posted this to say that we here who comment on ISG are the hardcore mongers. We are among the very few who constantly need to bang super hot girls on a regular basis. We are in a small minority even among mongers. The gent I referenced above was actually a lurker on ISG. I told him I was a lurker too, LOL.