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[Bfsie]

Bfsie. As you say, numbers of advertisements have been falling on that and all other platforms, especially in the last two years, In addition I notice that fewer and fewer give the address publicly, and more and more are short-term.

I agree with you.

[Sirioja]

Hessen has 5 big clubs and a few smaller ones. It has plenty of competition.

I personally do not think NRW clubs are failing. Still plenty of good ones.

Club manager's number one job is to make sure LU is good. Then he has to make sure these girls provide reliable and honest service as advertised. Finally he has to keep the club facilities such as toilets and showers, rooms, towels and robes, food and drinks, AC and heat, in good condition.

Then customers will come and stay.

What about Planet Eden? Now Aca Velbert after Penelope. PHG, Magnum and ex Village Vertigo are dying, I wish the best to LR. Now, when no Asian bus, only GT Bruggen is good for girls business in Germany. Most of new girls, even some pretty, don t stay at LR because not good business except for few girls. Reason why less high level girls, but it s OK for me at the moment, no need to take risk for Globe.

[Optimist]

Bfsie. As you say, numbers of advertisements have been falling on that and all other platforms, especially in the last two years, In addition I notice that fewer and fewer give the address publicly, and more and more are short-term.

[Bfsie]

Please let us know the conclusive proof for the claim that German sex industry as a whole is declining.

Before getting to your above concern, I should first write the reason of why I said the prostitute registration is the root cause of declining German sex industry. But I think it is a rather irrelevant and boring subject and some might say who cares, so I am skipping that and going direct to your concern. But I might write about it in the future when I get bored and have time no matter what the readers think of LOL.

Almost everyday for the past 4 years or so, I have been checking the following site (No. 1 by far WG search site in NRW) with its detail search function and my search criteria is the area up to 100 km from Cologne and the girls between age 18 and 23. Before the new law, it usually turned up between 1200 and 1400 girls. After the new law, the number was steadily declining to currently between 800 and 1000 girls. This is just one of proofs I personally know. I don't even want to mention other proofs which local german mongers have been talking about on german boards and I have been personally witnessing, because that would be a too time consuming matter.

http://www.6relax.de/detail_suche/r/3zpkkkga


I let Pistons and other members response to the rest of your post not quoted above.

[Member #4636]

Don't take me wrong. I like the pretty Romanian girls. But it becomes a monoculture since last few years. I think about 85% girls in FKK are from Romania. Could anybody tell me, where are the girls from another countries, e. G. Russia, Ukraine, Columbia etc. ?

Is there any underground rule, that only Romanian are allowed to work?

Romania has one of the highest prevalence in prostitution worldwide.

The answer to your question is simple. Out of the 20 thous and so Romanian prostitutes working worldwide maybe the 90 % work in Germany.

In my country Romanian work only in cheap brothels or massage parlours. We have only high class escorts and 80 % are from Russia and Ukraine. Other countries are Hungary, Rep Czech and Brazil or Poland.

[Mongerer88]

Don't take me wrong. I like the pretty Romanian girls. But it becomes a monoculture since last few years. I think about 85% girls in FKK are from Romania. Could anybody tell me, where are the girls from another countries, e. G. Russia, Ukraine, Columbia etc. ?

Is there any underground rule, that only Romanian are allowed to work?

The answer is likely proximity and friendships.

As you may have learned from your research on Madrid, there are two Russian / Ukrainian houses in Madrid. If you watch the schedules, it is apparent that when one plane arrives with a group that tends to work at the same time, the ladies who have been working at the place must take the plane back to Russia / Ukraine. It isn't that perfectly coordinated, but you get the idea. In some European countries where prostitution is frowned upon, like Italy and France, and in Greece, where there is not much of a high-end outcall scene involving local ladies, the Russian agencies have ladies who rotate among the cities in those countries, and who are off the schedule for periods of time, and presumably go back home. They presumably choose these counties because the rates are higher, but it is inevitable that they become friends with their Russian / Ukrainian co-workers and co-touring counterparts. And presumably their is a Russian modeling agency or some system to ease Visa issues. If you were a Ukrainian / Russian sex worker who wanted to work in Western Europe, wouldn't that be easier than navigating the German FKKs and its primarily Romanian workforce?

Same with Romanians. They can get on a bus to nearby Germany and work at an FKK full of fellow Romanians. The Germans are likely less prejudiced against Romanians than other European countries. If you notice, the relatively few Romanians who work in Spain tend to work at the big clubs where there are other Romanians, and they avoid the many countries that likely make it hard for them to work.

Look at it from the perspective of a lady from Colombia. If she travels to Spain, she understands the language, and if she wants to work at a "house", it is full of Spanish speakers, many of whom are from Latin America. Why would she want to brave the FKK system? She might get more customers during the day, but the price per session is likely lower. Sure she can live at the FKK, but part of the fun of a young lady doing this abroad is to explore big European cities. So wouldn't the Colombian enjoy herself more if she got an apartment in say Barcelona with other ladies from Colombia?

Would you want to have gone to college somewhere that you didn't know anyone who spoke your native tongue?

[Chongmal]

Don't take me wrong. I like the pretty Romanian girls. But it becomes a monoculture since last few years. I think about 85% girls in FKK are from Romania. Could anybody tell me, where are the girls from another countries, e. G. Russia, Ukraine, Columbia etc. ?

Is there any underground rule, that only Romanian are allowed to work?

Kiev, Dubai.

[Mr Ho]

Don't take me wrong. I like the pretty Romanian girls. But it becomes a monoculture since last few years. I think about 85% girls in FKK are from Romania. Could anybody tell me, where are the girls from another countries, e. G. Russia, Ukraine, Columbia etc. ?

Is there any underground rule, that only Romanian are allowed to work?

I think there is platform behind it on top of classical reasons like no visa issue, poverty corrupt nation etc.

[Takedown]

However Oase has a 100 girl LU, an attractive club with OK rooms, a good location that brings in locals and foreign tourists alike and as I said it is possible to obtain good sessions even at 50 E if you are diligent. I have.

The ones which are failing have no strengths and only weaknesses. The proof is that they are shutting down.

Yin Yang shut down because the city shut them down. Aca shut down over lease issues. The experience that the club offered to their customers had nothing to do with it.

[Thanos2019]

I feel you are touching the true reason now, but not bullseyeing it. Lets just admit that the Frankfurt climate has a stronger economy, bigger airport and less competition? While NRW has been oversupplied with clubs, and has a worse general economy?

Hessen has 5 big clubs and a few smaller ones. It has plenty of competition.

I personally do not think NRW clubs are failing. Still plenty of good ones.

Club manager's number one job is to make sure LU is good. Then he has to make sure these girls provide reliable and honest service as advertised. Finally he has to keep the club facilities such as toilets and showers, rooms, towels and robes, food and drinks, AC and heat, in good condition.

Then customers will come and stay.

[Mr Ho]

However Oase has a 100 girl LU, an attractive club with OK rooms, a good location that brings in locals and foreign tourists alike and as I said it is possible to obtain good sessions even at 50 E if you are diligent. I have.

The ones which are failing have no strengths and only weaknesses. The proof is that they are shutting down.

Maybe it is good thing that some weak club are shutting down, so that all girls who looks good will concentrate on fewer good clubs that survived the competitive FKK industry.

So in a way, Artemis suited me best at one point in my FKK career because there is only one FKK club in Berlin which is Artemis, and it is big club, so all girls who come to Berlin to work in FKK are there, so it was easy one stop location for me to do fishing.

[Mr Ho]

The short answer is no as long as there is no new law which makes prostitution or FKK club format illegal. The root problem of declining German sex industry, which FKK club is a part of, is the mandatory registration of prostitutes.

I do understand that girl would want anonymity and the system is never 100% secure from leaking, so it makes sense.

I think new law surrounding condom part was mostly targeting AO club, but since law apply to all, FKK BBBJ got automatically included, the real victim now is us mongers LOL.

At least, we still get it, it can be worst, but I am glad I had chance to have golden era of 50/60 euro 30 min BBBJ fuck session days when good sex with top beauty was win situation by far to us mongers.

Now it is mostly 100 euro 30 min or 150 euro one hour all inclusive era. Let hope it does not get worst than this.

[Chinese Power]

Don't take me wrong. I like the pretty Romanian girls. But it becomes a monoculture since last few years. I think about 85% girls in FKK are from Romania. Could anybody tell me, where are the girls from another countries, e. G. Russia, Ukraine, Columbia etc. ?

Is there any underground rule, that only Romanian are allowed to work?

[Pistons]

However Oase has a 100 girl LU, an attractive club with OK rooms, a good location that brings in locals and foreign tourists alike and as I said it is possible to obtain good sessions even at 50 E if you are diligent. I have.

The ones which are failing have no strengths and only weaknesses. The proof is that they are shutting down.

I feel you are touching the true reason now, but not bullseyeing it. Lets just admit that the Frankfurt climate has a stronger economy, bigger airport and less competition? While NRW has been oversupplied with clubs, and has a worse general economy?

[Pessimist]

The short answer is no as long as there is no new law which makes prostitution or FKK club format illegal. The root problem of declining German sex industry, which FKK club is a part of, is the mandatory registration of prostitutes.

Some clubs are doing worse and some are better.

Please let us know the conclusive proof for the claim that German sex industry as a whole is declining.

Are men fucking less or did they go to some other countries for paid sex, and if so where?

The Hessen clubs Sharks and Oase have more girls now than they did in 2015 or 16. Palace is roughly the same, more or less. World has declined due to an inefficient management. Yes, some NRW clubs I used to like are no longer the same and that's a pity. I will revisit them when their managements have a better handle on their business.

I'm not saying the registration was a good thing. I'm not even saying it had no impact. It probably did. But at the end of the day, good managements that care about customers, invest back in their club and facilities and hire good girls and make sure that they provide good services can still do well today. The demand for sex is always there and thanks to a cheap Euro and strong economies in Asia and US you also have many tourists coming.