German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[Optimist]

It is rare, but I saw some girls not taking shower after going session with client.

Not rare at all. It doesn't bother me necessarily.

[Mr Ho]

Same for me, I choose the girl and not the contrary, I pay. I will never accept that a girl touches me without my permission and impossible on top of that to touch my dick, probably her hand are dirty from the other guys:

It is rare, but I saw some girls not taking shower after going session with client.

[XXL]

Thanks! I don't want my employer to know what I'm doing in country. I could make up an employer address, but I don't want to have a bad record with Germany, so I suppose I should just pay it, right? What if I just used my friends' address as the company I'm "consulting" for?

If you have no connection to Germany or tax liability in Germany I think you can lie yourself out of this tax without too much risk. If you need to keep under the German / EU radar for tax or other purposes, better pay.

[LaBambaBoy]

I understand and very much share your sentiments and concerns. As you know the ISG Personal Mail system is very useful for contacting one or many ISG Members. I use it a lot and I understand you do as well. Beyond that there is always WhatsApp which many ISG members use effectively. I believe we share membership of one particular group. Although I don't post much I do receive the messages. Activity on the ISG Personal Mail System and other social media may play a small part in the reduction in forum traffic but certainly not the main reason which I believe is as you have stated above. As for the Germany FKK Clubs section of ISG, I guess it is what it is and recent posts in reply to your quoted post (above) would unfortunately indicate that matters won't change very soon.

I understand this, but I am trying to continue to contribute. I've not had a lot of message contact, but I am not there all that much (next trip is next year). But man, without the guys who were posting back over a year ago, I would have never had the excellent experiences I had. Kosher, Lanthano, tons of guys helped me prepare and be ready for that first trip (mostly by me combing through old posts and then asking questions to confirm things.) I made sure to contribute back as much as I could!

But I certainly understand why guys have gotten reticent, and the tales of guys using other guys posts against them with the girls in the clubs are just disgusting.

[Chongmal]

I don't know if it is a good idea to move those posts to its own section far away from the FKK Germany area. At least as long as the admin is just scratching the surface. New handles will just keep popping up here on the FKK section which the admins doesn't seem to be able to stop.

I don't have a great solution, but moving some posts away discussing the issue way just silence the wrong people.

Oh, and I may know who it is. But I won't write it here due to drama. Maybe in pm's.

I'm sorry, I didn't know where to jump into the conversation, so I chose the end. What I write here is not directed at any specific person, but is an expression of my opinion and what I like and don't care to see posted.

I like to see posts that are informative, posted in the correct thread.

If someone is writing about Sharks, a side trip about ladies from the past who worked at a different club is inappropriate. Posting about current activities at the club, changes of menu, prices, services, etc. Is all relevant. Posts about ladies can be as specific as desired or vague, merely mentioning the name and that she was seen. I personally like lineups.

I don't care to see posts under the Sharks thread about some lady seen 5 years ago at a club in Hamburg or Austria. If she isn't at Sharks today mentioning her now is distracting and not useful. Perhaps there should be a Good Old Days or I Remember When thread. Additionally, if it's not about getting to the club or happening at the club. It's not real helpful. If you are writing about the restaurant in the city or the amusement park, put that on Yelp and leave the sex forum about sex.

I don't like to see posts where certain members aggressively talk down at others. I admit, I have been reprimanded for doing this myself, but some times I see posts where it seems a dick measuring is taking place on the forum. No need for someone to continually try to discredit others.

That is my two cents on how to improve things.

[Pistons]

I don't know if it is a good idea to move those posts to its own section far away from the FKK Germany area. At least as long as the admin is just scratching the surface. New handles will just keep popping up here on the FKK section which the admins doesn't seem to be able to stop.

I don't have a great solution, but moving some posts away discussing the issue way just silence the wrong people.

Oh, and I may know who it is. But I won't write it here due to drama. Maybe in pm's.

[ExpatLover]

Go to Bab Elsdorf or Finca Erotica if you enjoy to be touched dick in lounge, You should even being sucked very fast in public if You want. I hate this kind of prostitute behavior, as I hate girls I didn't choose, rubbing on me. At LR, I visited for only 1 girl, but girls who looked like nothing for me, came to rub on me, I don t know why they came to rub on me when I was not a business for them and they should better go to others, but they didn't. I also don t know why so many girls want to touch my hair, not only when pressing on my head between their legs. I never touch girls before room, only their hands or face.

Same for me, I choose the girl and not the contrary, I pay. I will never accept that a girl touches me without my permission and impossible on top of that to touch my dick, probably her hand are dirty from the other guys:

[Admin]

Greetings Everyone,

I cleaned up this thread by moving a number of posts to "a new thread titled "Posting Bots in the Forum" in the "Opinions & Editorials" section."

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4119-Troll-Bots-on-the-Forum

If your report was inadvertently moved in the process, please don't take it personally.

Thanks,

Admin

[Optimist]

I have been reciting the qualities of ISG to some colleagues I know on some foreign language forums. The posts being made in recent times really made an impression on them.

[Sirioja]

In FKK are they all same as I visited Babylon in Hamburg and there was minimal interaction with the workers. They might ask if you want go room but if not they go away.

Whereas when I was in clubs in Costa Del Sol, the girls are real chatty and grab your dick and so on, its much more fun. Are no FKK clubs like that? If not Ill stick to Spain.

Go to Bab Elsdorf or Finca Erotica if you enjoy to be touched dick in lounge, You should even being sucked very fast in public if You want. I hate this kind of prostitute behavior, as I hate girls I didn't choose, rubbing on me. At LR, I visited for only 1 girl, but girls who looked like nothing for me, came to rub on me, I don t know why they came to rub on me when I was not a business for them and they should better go to others, but they didn't. I also don t know why so many girls want to touch my hair, not only when pressing on my head between their legs. I never touch girls before room, only their hands or face.

[Der Auslander]

Gino is a principled man as well and so are La Bamba, Pessimist, FuckedUpSwede

Hi there my friend. I'm afraid the consensus on social media runs contrary to the above statement. But we are all entitled to our opinion as indeed are you. Get well my friend and keep well.

J

[ExpatLover]

Good point!

I think there is at least one more reason why it is so quite in the German section on ISG. It all changed summer 2017 when the new law became reality. Different forums choose different approaches to the law. Big German forums banned writing about AO and other now illegal activities I Germany, the big Dutch forum that covers mostly NRW have gone the same way (but without any strict rules as I understand).

ISG went an other way. In this forum members (like Hessen Bub) argued for a cautious way of spreading information. Other members attacked him very hard. Well Hessen Bub left the scene, and the members that likes to write and bragg about daycare and creampies are still here.

The german forum is still verly lively, the Dutch also. Full of good reports with usefull information without discussing illegal activites in an open forum. ISG choose an other way, with another outcome.

T.

Some German forums like Roemer are also facing the same challenges, the clients are changing less and less senior mongers more and more tourists and guys with migration backgrounds not willing to share any info with others.

[Tubeliht]

I understand and very much share your sentiments and concerns. As you know the ISG Personal Mail system is very useful for contacting one or many ISG Members. I use it a lot and I understand you do as well. Beyond that there is always WhatsApp which many ISG members use effectively. I believe we share membership of one particular group. Although I don't post much I do receive the messages. Activity on the ISG Personal Mail System and other social media may play a small part in the reduction in forum traffic but certainly not the main reason which I believe is as you have stated above. As for the Germany FKK Clubs section of ISG, I guess it is what it is and recent posts in reply to your quoted post (above) would unfortunately indicate that matters won't change very soon.

I understand and very much share your sentiments and concerns. As you know the ISG Personal Mail system is very useful for contacting one or many ISG Members. I use it a lot and I understand you do as well. Beyond that there is always WhatsApp which many ISG members use effectively. I believe we share membership of one particular group. Although I don't post much I do receive the messages. Activity on the ISG Personal Mail System and other social media may play a small part in the reduction in forum traffic but certainly not the main reason which I believe is as you have stated above. As for the Germany FKK Clubs section of ISG, I guess it is what it is and recent posts in reply to your quoted post (above) would unfortunately indicate that matters won't change very soon.

This is accurate. You summarized the state of matters very effectively. As we have discussed in the past, Optimist and his friends have been the good guys and tried to bring order to the German section of ISG. Optimist is a principled monger of the highest order, as is Apollyon and Take Down and also you Mr. Aus Lander. We have to make sure that this forum remains the beacon of information it has been for a long time. Gino is a principled man as well and so are La Bamba, Pessimist, FuckedUpSwede and TheCane. The contributions of these members for many years have been invaluable. Thank you Mr. Aus Lander.

[Der Auslander]

A fellow member recently asked in a post why the forum is so quiet. And why so little hard information is posted. Unfortunately a number of reliable posters have stopped posting anything meaningful as they are wary of the large number of new or resurrected handles which share the same stylistic oddities (despite attempts to cover them) and the same mindset. These reports specialise in congratulating each other and regurgitating information gleaned from other members and other forums. Why this should be so is beyond me. But it is harmful to an effective forum.

So this is a reason for fewer posts than might otherwise have been. Reducing Forum traffic

Like quite a few other members I now consider very carefully before sharing detailed information.

I understand and very much share your sentiments and concerns. As you know the ISG Personal Mail system is very useful for contacting one or many ISG Members. I use it a lot and I understand you do as well. Beyond that there is always WhatsApp which many ISG members use effectively. I believe we share membership of one particular group. Although I don't post much I do receive the messages. Activity on the ISG Personal Mail System and other social media may play a small part in the reduction in forum traffic but certainly not the main reason which I believe is as you have stated above. As for the Germany FKK Clubs section of ISG, I guess it is what it is and recent posts in reply to your quoted post (above) would unfortunately indicate that matters won't change very soon.

[RatherBigOne]

In FKK are they all same as I visited Babylon in Hamburg and there was minimal interaction with the workers. They might ask if you want go room but if not they go away.

Whereas when I was in clubs in Costa Del Sol, the girls are real chatty and grab your dick and so on, its much more fun. Are no FKK clubs like that? If not Ill stick to Spain.