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[Mr Ho]

Dude, there's no right or wrong. It's just personal opinion. Mr. Ho was saying things like why would any man want to get married and have sex with his middle aged wife when there is such a thing as FKK. I'm just stating that's a narrow point of view. There are many reasons why people get married, emotional connection (aka love) and physical connection are just a few. Some people like the concept of family, with kids and grand kids. Obviously, we don't get to live forever. Some people like to build a support system. We all know that life likes to throw us curve balls when we least expect them. Shit happens. Some men like to draw emotional support from their family. Others depend on friends, alcohol, gambling, or my favorite FKK (I do like FKK, probably just not as much as Mr. Ho).

Before somebody tells me that you don't need to get married to have kids, true. But I believe that kids will have much better support systems if they grow up with their parents in a loving marriage.

In some ways, I got exposed to this mongering world relatively young. Discovered FKK around 2009 o are 8 and got even more drawn in, which really made me think.

I feel, born as a man, you got to secure three things first no matter what; which are Health, money and sex supply. These three things can really control men in general.

So I went and secure them and as for sex supply, mongering is my safety net not to get control by one single pussy called wife.

If FKK or escort do not provide me with quality girls, I would go for wife thing called marriage.

BUT in our modern days, in this generation, quality of girls got so good in mongering world that I can even fuck porn stars, top run way models and you just got to work make money and pay.

So quality is there now in mongering world and it seems it get better and better, so sex life wise, it is better for me to stick to FKK and escort scene more than marriage or relationships.

Now and then, I fuck normal girls, but they cannot fully satisfy me sexually. It seems when you become regular with some working girls, they provide you some crazy sex that normal girls can't or they just won't because it is too dirty for them.

Again quality is there now in mongering world, so it makes more sense for me to put more focus on mongering world than marriage where quality is only there and soon or later it will surely decline. I love fucking beautiful young girls, so I need mongering world in my life the most For those who like to fuck middle age women with fat ass or wrinkle here and there, it is up to their taste, it is just that that ain't my taste.

[The Cane]

Hmm. That might be the case in your country, but here in the US, and I would venture to say that a lot of the developed countries, women have about the same financial opportunities as men.

The median annual earnings of women in the United States as a percentage of the men's is 79%. This says to me that American women do not have "about the same" financial opportunities as the men do. Their median earnings are a full 21% lower, and that's significant! And that gap gets even wider if you look at it for women of color. Women still have tremendous pressure and desire to look for men who can provide for them in ways they can't do for themselves.

[NewPlayer]

Then answer this, if you are right....

Dude, there's no right or wrong. It's just personal opinion. Mr. Ho was saying things like why would any man want to get married and have sex with his middle aged wife when there is such a thing as FKK. I'm just stating that's a narrow point of view. There are many reasons why people get married, emotional connection (aka love) and physical connection are just a few. Some people like the concept of family, with kids and grand kids. Obviously, we don't get to live forever. Some people like to build a support system. We all know that life likes to throw us curve balls when we least expect them. Shit happens. Some men like to draw emotional support from their family. Others depend on friends, alcohol, gambling, or my favorite FKK (I do like FKK, probably just not as much as Mr. Ho).

Before somebody tells me that you don't need to get married to have kids, true. But I believe that kids will have much better support systems if they grow up with their parents in a loving marriage.

[Mr Ho]

Hmm. That might be the case in your country, but here in the US, and I would venture to say that a lot of the developed countries, women have about the same financial opportunities as men. So no marriage is not just a marketing cult to secure women. That is just a very narrow minded point of view. There is such a thing as love in this world.

Actually. I was mostly referring it to US, because it is in US where wife take half of your asset upon divorce and even your kids. This is so even if they cheat on you. I mean what a hell is that.

In my country it is not that bad, if you do not have kid, then even you have millions, you just have to pay about 30.000 USD to 50.000 USD, but even that hell no, I can take 3 or 5 FKK holiday trips for that amount LOL.

No wonder why in developed nation including mine, has decline in birthrates and marriage. We begin to think for ourselves instead of government and religion.

It is government and religion who invented marriage so that you produce next lines of tax paying machines.

If there is love, then don't marry but have relationship.

[Mr Ho]

Hmmm do you really see them alot in FKK? How to differenciate pimps from customers, LOL.

Perhaps its me that doesn't pay attention because all I care about is finding potential targets.

I saw them few times, not every time I go, but almost every holiday I take in Germany yes I see them (I go about 10 days to 14 days everyday to FKK).

They normally come in quite big group like 4 or 5 guys. They are huge like steroid level huge, got tattoos everywhere, sometimes even on their face, I mean it is very obvious and sometimes girls I know well tells me it is pimps.

They seems to be quite generous spenders to the club, I often see them with bottles of champagnes or maybe it is on the house of the club??

I also see them sometimes going up stairs with girls, but girls who seems not to belong to them. However, some girls refuse to go with them to zimmer.

Also I never really speak to them, but I bump into one of them before by mistake, but they were surprisingly very polite.

[Mr Ho]

Then answer this, if you are right. If you are in love why do you need to get married? After all you should only be together if you love each other and if not split up.

Marriage imposes an enormous financial cost on the more affluent partner, and despite what you say in the vast majority of cases it is men. Why are women so eager to tie the knot? That is because they have you by the balls.

And I am sure that many men who profess their love for their wives are aware of the enormous financial cost of their freedom and that is why they insist they love their wives and lead a double life, I used to be one of them so I know.

I actually believe in love, but why do you need to empower a woman to blackmail you if you love her and why does she insist on that right from you?

I grew up in the US and the process there involves the power relationship between men and women.

If someone thinks marriage is about love, then I am afraid the church has brainwashed them. They don't care they are not interested in you enjoying your sex life. They want to promote the belief system that gives them the most power.

Exactly and well written, better written than me.

Marriage is like betting half of your asset that she is going to love you forever.

You work to make money, she stay home and do laundry etc. And she claim it is hard doing house works. ? Hell no! I just get maid for 12 dollars per hour or even cheaper.

Wife will get old, you still have to fuck her, if not she can use this as reason to divorce you and take half of your money and also your kids too.

I mean marriage is invented by religions and governments, so you reproduce next tax providing machines.

[Mr Ho]

I think Mr. Ho simply has great interests in Pimps (like I do), rather than admire or respect them. I remember once he talked about his life dreams about girls, so probably he finds the good side of a pimp is quite attractive: free money and endless young girls. But I really don't believe pimps will bring happiness to girls, if so, that won't last long.

I know few girls (not too much though) who fuck hard everyday and willing to do anything to make some extra, and in the end of the day gives all her money to her "boyfriend" in the city. Probably she's volunteered to do that, and happy to help her beloved man to realize his dream or prepare for their future marriage or other shits, but All of us know what will happen to her, when she can't make more money or wants to stop. Actually comparing to some hardcore pimps, "love boy" trick is already not that bad. Earlier this year one girl in samya got beaten up and had to stay home for two weeks, because she lent few hundreds to her friend in club who disappeared the next day. Her men didn't believe that, and thought she got another man out there. Once I brought this subject to some girls in Oase, they didn't really want to talk about it other than telling me "I don't like pimps", their facial expressions showed me their answer.

Yes, in some degrees, girls thank those who bring them to Germany and give them them the chance to make fast money, but will they still appreciate it if they have to hand over most or even all the money they make by fucking random men everyday?

That's the whole point I am making. I do not understand why some girls are happy to be with pimps. I would not be, I do not understand it, but some quite many of them are apparently happy with them.

The way how I understand is that, it is bit like Cult religion believer, we do not get why they believe such a thing and give most of their hard working money and time, but it is support system for them in life, they feel they need it mentally. I guess it is like this with pimps.

It is eternal wonder why and how this works for pimps, but also with cult religions etc. I guess they target the weakness of human.

[Faceless78]

Very interesting and deep thoughts. I have similar ideas but thanks for bringing it to next level.

In many ways, we do thing as we are "supposed to", like people should get married if they truly love each other, people should have kids if they want to prove their love, balabala, on and on, these are just all the BS taught by others for some reasons. Love and marriage are different, love doesn't necessarily lead to marriage and marriage usually has much more than love itself. Love is what we want to, not what we need to. But marriage is more or less the opposite way hah.

I'm not against any of those things, I'm sure many get married and kids for love, and I believe someday I'll find the right one and build a family. I just hope I'm not forced by some external causes.

[Faceless78]

Hmm. That might be the case in your country, but here in the US, and I would venture to say that a lot of the developed countries, women have about the same financial opportunities as men. So no marriage is not just a marketing cult to secure women. That is just a very narrow minded point of view. There is such a thing as love in this world.

I think Mr. Ho simply has great interests in Pimps (like I do), rather than admire or respect them. I remember once he talked about his life dreams about girls, so probably he finds the good side of a pimp is quite attractive: free money and endless young girls. But I really don't believe pimps will bring happiness to girls, if so, that won't last long.

I know few girls (not too much though) who fuck hard everyday and willing to do anything to make some extra, and in the end of the day gives all her money to her "boyfriend" in the city. Probably she's volunteered to do that, and happy to help her beloved man to realize his dream or prepare for their future marriage or other shits, but All of us know what will happen to her, when she can't make more money or wants to stop. Actually comparing to some hardcore pimps, "love boy" trick is already not that bad. Earlier this year one girl in samya got beaten up and had to stay home for two weeks, because she lent few hundreds to her friend in club who disappeared the next day. Her men didn't believe that, and thought she got another man out there. Once I brought this subject to some girls in Oase, they didn't really want to talk about it other than telling me "I don't like pimps", their facial expressions showed me their answer.

Yes, in some degrees, girls thank those who bring them to Germany and give them them the chance to make fast money, but will they still appreciate it if they have to hand over most or even all the money they make by fucking random men everyday?

[Delta Indigo]

Hmm. That might be the case in your country, but here in the US, and I would venture to say that a lot of the developed countries, women have about the same financial opportunities as men. So no marriage is not just a marketing cult to secure women. That is just a very narrow minded point of view. There is such a thing as love in this world.

Then answer this, if you are right. If you are in love why do you need to get married? After all you should only be together if you love each other and if not split up.

Marriage imposes an enormous financial cost on the more affluent partner, and despite what you say in the vast majority of cases it is men. Why are women so eager to tie the knot? That is because they have you by the balls.

And I am sure that many men who profess their love for their wives are aware of the enormous financial cost of their freedom and that is why they insist they love their wives and lead a double life, I used to be one of them so I know.

I actually believe in love, but why do you need to empower a woman to blackmail you if you love her and why does she insist on that right from you?

I grew up in the US and the process there involves the power relationship between men and women.

If someone thinks marriage is about love, then I am afraid the church has brainwashed them. They don't care they are not interested in you enjoying your sex life. They want to promote the belief system that gives them the most power.

If you actually research the history of marriage, you will quickly discover that romantic marriages are a relatively recent concept in the West. Marriage did not historically favor women, but the institution has evolved to do so in many countries now.

Mr. Ho might not be so articulate, but a blind faith defense of marriage is the narrower point of view. Why are women generally so eager to pop the question and why is it that the men usually get cold feet?

The answer seems obvious to me.

I have also seen quite a few men who insisted that their wives loved them and are good people get taken for a ride during a divorce. Women think in terms of their own interests.

A woman can be blindly in love with you, I do believe in love, but then she would be happy to be with you without tying the knot.

Why do you think this archaic institution is about love? Do you actually think that is how pagan tribes and the church saw it?

[NewPlayer]

Yeah in their 30's when girls cannot work in FKK anymore.

I mean PIMPs are smarter than husbands. I do not know how most men managed to stay with middle age women, living with them, taking their shit, and even sleep with them. Love?. You do not fuck Love do you? And even there is love, there is limitation of how much shit you can take and how women's beauty decline after 25 or 30 or around that age is incredible. Marriage is marketing cults to secure women after they are no longer beautiful enough to fuck them. It is crazy how many men decide to or get hypnotized or deceived by this society norm to be with ugly middle age women, spend money on them and have to sleep with them. It is act of insanity LOL.

At least, PIMPs managed to jump out of declining plane after girls hit 30's!

Hmm. That might be the case in your country, but here in the US, and I would venture to say that a lot of the developed countries, women have about the same financial opportunities as men. So no marriage is not just a marketing cult to secure women. That is just a very narrow minded point of view. There is such a thing as love in this world.

[Sirioja]

Girls are happy to be with PIMPs, it is not like in the movie, but in reality, pimps keeps girls happy in life and give support system that we mongers have difficulty to understand. But somehow girls are happy to be with pimps.

I hope you are joking and it s a bad joke. Look better girls legs or arms, when I ask them if they play football, they fell so often, even without high heels, and BF / pimp are not only for Romanian girls, also polish and German. Girls are fucked all day to make money for their BF not able to work, such a beautiful relationship for these girls.

[Exodus8]

Hmm, admire no, but interesting field yes because I do not come across PIMPs if it is not for FKK)).

Hmmm do you really see them alot in FKK? How to differenciate pimps from customers, LOL.

Perhaps its me that doesn't pay attention because all I care about is finding potential targets.

[Mr Ho]

That may be the case for a part of the girls, but if you believe that this is the case for all the girls you have no idea what is going on in this industry behind the scenes.

HB.

What do you mean Mr HB? FKK is safe and no human traffic etc isn't it? Yes some pimps must be rough like Romanian ones.

[Mr Ho]

What you talking about girls can work in FKK in their 80's e. G. Sylvana and their skills reach perfection, LOL.

You seem admire the pimps mentality. Must be yr dream profession where you can get money without work and fuck for free, haha.

Hmm, admire no, but interesting field yes because I do not come across PIMPs if it is not for FKK)).