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[Mr Ho]

Inflammatory response is part of (specific) immune response but specific immune response is not part of the inflammatory process. NSAIDs such as ibuprofen reduce inflammation which has secondary effects on immune response. It may have some measurable reduction in triggering memory cells involved in future antibody production but theories that it may render vaccination ineffective is just hypothetical conjecture.

For future reference, paracetamol-acetaminophen could be used to alleviate post-vaccination symptoms of fever and body aches rather than NSAIDs to ensure proper immune response.

So you are saying to take aspirin before and during and after getting vaccinated with corona vaccines?

[Mursenary]

Maybe they can get people to take the vaccine if they give out some oxycodone pills with it. Since there will be no anti-inflammatory response by oxycodone either.

Probably yes.

[DrPoon]

Inflammatory response is part of (specific) immune response but specific immune response is not part of the inflammatory process. NSAIDs such as ibuprofen reduce inflammation which has secondary effects on immune response. It may have some measurable reduction in triggering memory cells involved in future antibody production but theories that it may render vaccination ineffective is just hypothetical conjecture.

For future reference, paracetamol-acetaminophen could be used to alleviate post-vaccination symptoms of fever and body aches rather than NSAIDs to ensure proper immune response.

Maybe they can get people to take the vaccine if they give out some oxycodone pills with it. Since there will be no anti-inflammatory response by oxycodone either.

[Mursenary]

My understanding is it could possibly affect the bodies inflammatory response. I'm not a doctor but that is what ibuprophen generally does in layman terms and that is what a vaccine causes in layman terms.

Inflammatory response is part of (specific) immune response but specific immune response is not part of the inflammatory process. NSAIDs such as ibuprofen reduce inflammation which has secondary effects on immune response. It may have some measurable reduction in triggering memory cells involved in future antibody production but theories that it may render vaccination ineffective is just hypothetical conjecture.

For future reference, paracetamol-acetaminophen could be used to alleviate post-vaccination symptoms of fever and body aches rather than NSAIDs to ensure proper immune response.

[Sirioja]

That's because the virus vector which infects your cells with the covid protein is an adenovirus and you make antibodies to the adenovirus vector. Thus, the second Johnson dose should not be effective since your body will neutralize the adenovirus in the Johnson vaccine and you will not have the adenovirus force your cells to produce covid proteins.

Again these vaccines are all fake and not real vaccines.

Older than 50, I lived as usual, kissing and datying WGs weekly, and didn't need until November. I just want my pass and not to be sick because of vaccine I m pretty sure I don't need. Now we will have to take risk with 2 doses per year to keep our pass.

[The Cane]

Your third Pfizer dose made more effects in your body than second, 39,9 degrees? Crazy.

The first two doses of Pfizer had virtually no effect on me. But when I got the booster, I was down for two solid days! I had a fever, body aches all over, a headache, and got a painful swelling in my armpit on the side where I got the shot (this swelling of the lymph nodes is a known side effect). Well, my body's reaction proved I have the antibodies in me. So, as uncomfortable as I was for a couple of days, I'm happy to have strong protection against the virus, which I have yet to contract.

[DrPoon]

All vaccines lose efficiency in 6 - 9 months. I think so far they say Moderna's efficiency declines slowest. Interesting that many countries recommend mRNA booster even if vaccinated with J&J or AZ initially.

That's because the virus vector which infects your cells with the covid protein is an adenovirus and you make antibodies to the adenovirus vector. Thus, the second Johnson dose should not be effective since your body will neutralize the adenovirus in the Johnson vaccine and you will not have the adenovirus force your cells to produce covid proteins.

Again these vaccines are all fake and not real vaccines.

[BobNSuzy]

I don't care about science behind antibody levels, I simply stayed away from taking any meds after the jab. Advertisement not to take the vaccine? Oh, no. I am 100 percent pro-vax. Hope everybody gets a jab. I feel good about doing it because it's my contribution to fight the horrible virus.

My understanding is it could possibly affect the bodies inflammatory response. I'm not a doctor but that is what ibuprophen generally does in layman terms and that is what a vaccine causes in layman terms.

[Sirioja]

I had my Pfizer booster shot at the end of October. After my second shot back in March I had some minor body aches the second day, went to sleep early and felt a little weak the next day. With the third shot, towards the evening, serious pain in the arm, body aches in muscles, especially legs, joints pain especially my knees. The body temperature varied next three days between 37.9 c (100.2 F) and 39.9 c (103.8 F). The temp would drop when I got up from the bed, but in about an hour I had to lay down again. Could not sleep first two nights because of pain in my arm and my knees. Have to mention I didn't take any pain medication to max the antibody levels. My headaches lasted almost a week and eventually I did take ibuprofen which took care of pain. Was exhausted for an entire week. I am in my 50's, healthy, enjoyed daily 3-4 orgasms with a few day breaks during my NRW trips in Aug and Sep. Today I feel sad because four years in a row before covid every Thanksgiving I was in Dusseldorf, Koln, or Wiesbaden enjoying my normal FKK program. Anyway, happy Thanksgiving my friends, it's time to save some money for horny 2022. Cheers!

Your third Pfizer dose made more effects in your body than second, 39,9 degrees? Crazy. They want to kill our bodies, when I made so healthy powerful with my sport on this Summer before JJ dose. And now, other dose being compulsory to keep our pass valid in France and probably Germany when they are in worst situation, when seem South African one, stronger, is increasing. If I can reach Girose 3500 high glacier for my Christmas present, I will make a hole and stay there until I can take again my bicycle to climb up to highest ranked I love so much. There nobody to control my pass, but they may control to buy ski pass.

[Sirioja]

I had my Pfizer booster shot at the end of October. After my second shot back in March I had some minor body aches the second day, went to sleep early and felt a little weak the next day. With the third shot, towards the evening, serious pain in the arm, body aches in muscles, especially legs, joints pain especially my knees. The body temperature varied next three days between 37.9 c (100.2 F) and 39.9 c (103.8 F). The temp would drop when I got up from the bed, but in about an hour I had to lay down again. Could not sleep first two nights because of pain in my arm and my knees. Have to mention I didn't take any pain medication to max the antibody levels. My headaches lasted almost a week and eventually I did take ibuprofen which took care of pain. Was exhausted for an entire week. I am in my 50's, healthy, enjoyed daily 3-4 orgasms with a few day breaks during my NRW trips in Aug and Sep. Today I feel sad because four years in a row before covid every Thanksgiving I was in Dusseldorf, Koln, or Wiesbaden enjoying my normal FKK program. Anyway, happy Thanksgiving my friends, it's time to save some money for horny 2022. Cheers!

Your third Pfizer dose made more effects in your body than second, 39,9 degrees? Crazy. They want to kill our bodies, when I made so healthy powerful with my sport on this Summer before JJ dose. And now, other dose being compulsory to keep our pass valid in France and probably Germany when they are in worst situation, when seem South African one, stronger, is increasing. If I can reach Girose 3500 high glacier for my Christmas present, I will make a hole and stay there until I can take again my bicycle to climb up to highest ranked I love so much. There nobody to control my pass, but they should control to buy ski pass.

[PaulInZurich]

I had my Pfizer booster shot at the end of October. ...

All vaccines lose efficiency in 6 - 9 months. I think so far they say Moderna's efficiency declines slowest. Interesting that many countries recommend mRNA booster even if vaccinated with J&J or AZ initially.

[Smoke Light]

I don't understand how Ibuprophen will affect antibody levels? I think only corticosteroids or immunosuppresants will lower antibodies. However the above ordeal seems like an advertisement not to take the vaccine.

I don't care about science behind antibody levels, I simply stayed away from taking any meds after the jab. Advertisement not to take the vaccine? Oh, no. I am 100 percent pro-vax. Hope everybody gets a jab. I feel good about doing it because it's my contribution to fight the horrible virus.

[DrPoon]

I had my Pfizer booster shot at the end of October. After my second shot back in March I had some minor body aches the second day, went to sleep early and felt a little weak the next day. With the third shot, towards the evening, serious pain in the arm, body aches in muscles, especially legs, joints pain especially my knees. The body temperature varied next three days between 37.9 c (100.2 F) and 39.9 c (103.8 F). The temp would drop when I got up from the bed, but in about an hour I had to lay down again. Could not sleep first two nights because of pain in my arm and my knees. Have to mention I didn't take any pain medication to max the antibody levels. My headaches lasted almost a week and eventually I did take ibuprofen which took care of pain. Was exhausted for an entire week. I am in my 50's, healthy, enjoyed daily 3-4 orgasms with a few day breaks during my NRW trips in Aug and Sep. Today I feel sad because four years in a row before covid every Thanksgiving I was in Dusseldorf, Koln, or Wiesbaden enjoying my normal FKK program. Anyway, happy Thanksgiving my friends, it's time to save some money for horny 2022. Cheers!

I don't understand how Ibuprophen will affect antibody levels? I think only corticosteroids or immunosuppresants will lower antibodies. However the above ordeal seems like an advertisement not to take the vaccine.

[Sirioja]

J&J v mRNA. I don't know. I got the J&J and had tinnitus for months. Can't prove a thing but suspicious nonetheless.

After speaking with doctors, when I waited to finish my Summer sport because I don't trust, and chose JJ for only 1 dose after checking with doctors, to get my pass, and today, when EU is falling under fifth wave and panic, France decided third dose, second for me, will be compulsory for older than 18 before 7 months to keep pass. They want to make our body vaccine addict, when I hate medicines, curing myself on this Summer. Only feeling warm with more than 3 degrees more on next day, nothing more, but I don't trust when I lived as usual without until November. Now 2 doses per year?

[Smoke Light]

J&J v mRNA. I don't know. I got the J&J and had tinnitus for months. Can't prove a thing but suspicious nonetheless.

I had my Pfizer booster shot at the end of October. After my second shot back in March I had some minor body aches the second day, went to sleep early and felt a little weak the next day. With the third shot, towards the evening, serious pain in the arm, body aches in muscles, especially legs, joints pain especially my knees. The body temperature varied next three days between 37.9 c (100.2 F) and 39.9 c (103.8 F). The temp would drop when I got up from the bed, but in about an hour I had to lay down again. Could not sleep first two nights because of pain in my arm and my knees. Have to mention I didn't take any pain medication to max the antibody levels. My headaches lasted almost a week and eventually I did take ibuprofen which took care of pain. Was exhausted for an entire week. I am in my 50's, healthy, enjoyed daily 3-4 orgasms with a few day breaks during my NRW trips in Aug and Sep. Today I feel sad because four years in a row before covid every Thanksgiving I was in Dusseldorf, Koln, or Wiesbaden enjoying my normal FKK program. Anyway, happy Thanksgiving my friends, it's time to save some money for horny 2022. Cheers!