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[Theo110]

Theo:

You give LR and Oase both an 8 for casting. And it seems this is not including service as you have a separate category for that. But I am guessing there is the usual aprox 8-10 lookers at Oase. Which is fair enough to give it an 8. Has LR really got the same amount of lookers?

Also you give Aca Gold the same score as you give Sharks. Both a 7! Now I truly wonder which Acapulco V girls have gone over? And who has not gone up to Great Palace. I assume Hannah and her group is still at Aca G. Maybe Lucy? If both of them are there, it is a big bonus, but there should be more numerous girls at such high quality to have that score. I recall my only Aca Gold visit 18 months ago, I gave it a complete no for lineup score in my review. So the lineup better have changed drastically to be on Sharks level!

Living Room had several lookers when I was there on the Saturday Night. Very good quality looks wise probably the best of my trip. ACA Gold had more girls there than usual currently with the Velbert location closed. ACA usually has about 30 percent worth it for me to room with, this last trip it was so packed every time I saw one that was up to my standard I just took her to the room. At one point that day every girl in the place was getting fucked except for 3.

Also my opinion may be skewed differently based on my taste which is I like the younger non tatted, non plastic, petite, innocent, girl next door looking girls. The girls who just start and have this look tend to work at ACA Gold, Oase, and living room, (before being promoted to Goldentime).

When I first started going to FKKs Sharks was my favorite but not so many girls there anymore. Also since I have been there so many times (more than 20 since Jan 2017) I keep seeing the same girls and it may be boring me.

Anyone have any clubs I didn't visit where the casting skews to my taste as stated above?

[Optimist]

Bfsie. I totally agree with your para re character For me what you suggest works 100%. I choose according to their character, simply niceness or kindness. If a girl radiates these her optics are radically improved (although of course a size 40 won't turn into my preferred 30/32, German sizing).

I do think the job can be taught, but they have to have the right disposition/character first. And if put in a club with the wrong cultural norms even a good girl can fall into bad ways

Cheers

[Bfsie]

WG's service is not a matter of WG's cleverness or dumbness. WG's service, IMHO, is mainly a WG's character issue, not a WG's intelligence issue, I. E. How good a WG's service is is mainly determined by the WG's character, not by her intelligence or her other factors. We here discussed in the past week about whether WG's service is teachable and changeable. I think that most WG's services are almost unteachable and unchangeable after their initial several-week internship in the business because their characters are almost unchangeable at their ages. Some WG's service may be YMMV, but this is because the character of very small percentage of WGs is YMMV, I. E. They treat people differently by their character.

I think the implication of my view is:

1) If one fellow monger or friend TRUTHFULLY recommends a WG for her good service and you know what is his standard of defining WG's good service, you most likely will get good service from this WG if you have at most the same standard as this monger or friend. Even if her service is YMMV, her YMMV service would be within the margin of her good service.

2) If you have good judgement about women' characters in real life, just apply this skill of your judgement to the WGs with the emphasis on their kindness and niceness as first screening of your evaluation of WGs, because girl's character won't change that much after she becomes a prostitute.

[Sirioja]

Yes they are clever and smart but this has nothing to do with behave and attitude. I think FKK girls are either very smart or very dumb there is no between. But regarding behave and attitude which is something you learn among education they are far from that.

My meaning: most of WGs are not really clever, only a very few are smart. If they were more, most would get better business, smart girls are usually busier, like Kate at GT.

[Pistons]

Theo:

You give LR and Oase both an 8 for casting. And it seems this is not including service as you have a separate category for that. But I am guessing there is the usual aprox 8-10 lookers at Oase. Which is fair enough to give it an 8. Has LR really got the same amount of lookers?

Also you give Aca Gold the same score as you give Sharks. Both a 7! Now I truly wonder which Acapulco V girls have gone over? And who has not gone up to Great Palace. I assume Hannah and her group is still at Aca G. Maybe Lucy? If both of them are there, it is a big bonus, but there should be more numerous girls at such high quality to have that score. I recall my only Aca Gold visit 18 months ago, I gave it a complete no for lineup score in my review. So the lineup better have changed drastically to be on Sharks level!

[Mr Ho]

I had my first time to Artemis last night, after my previous weekend in Duss. Will leave a review in the Artemis thread, but you're absolutely right. Some better talent "optically". The service didn't suffer either, it was just more expensive.

Trend nowadays are 100 euro for 30 min full package with BBBJ, DFK and DATY and condom fuck in palace. As for Artemis I have not been there since 2015, but I guess line up got better again with some good optic girls back again? Artemis was the place to be in 2010 till 2014 when there always were new stunner level beauty each time I visit, which was nice feeling to know that I was going to fuck new young beauty every time I visited that club back then.

As for optic, that is what I noticed as well going around NRW 4 years, Hessen 4 years and Berlin 6 years, absolute stunner optically are in palace and Artemis with bit of digging based on my experience, there usually are one to three stunners, max five back in golden days, but for me two stunners in line per day is enough, more is better, but I cannot complain because golden days are over, though according to you, it maybe back again considering top girls go where they can upsell their beauty. I will be back in Artemis in late summer and I cannot wait how that clubs line up changed. Hopefully.

[JunkJock]

NRW clubs tend to provide better service than Hessen or Berlin clubs, but yeah, I also noticed line up being rather mediocre with almost no stunner in line up, some day I got lucky, but optically NRW is lower than Frankfurt or Berlin clubs.

Oddly, best girls I had optically in past 10 years in German FKK were all in palace and also Artemis. Both are near city upsell clubs, so I guess most beautiful girls go where the money is.

I had my first time to Artemis last night, after my previous weekend in Duss. Will leave a review in the Artemis thread, but you're absolutely right. Some better talent "optically". The service didn't suffer either, it was just more expensive.

[Gino02]

It's very interesting that people who say prostitution is bad for women are either the women who never worked as a prostitute (and thus actually understood the benefits of prostitution) or the men who has something to gain by saying that (eg some politicians or lawyers). Of course there are some exceptions that prove the norm.

[Theo110]

Here is the list of the clubs I visited and my rankings based on experience.

1. FKK Dietzenbach 1230 pm Thursday 6/6.

Food / Facilities 2. This place is a well known dump. They did have the little hotdogs and soda.

Casting 4. There were about 8 girls working. 2 would be average in a normal club. The rest were gross.

Service Levels. Did not have a session. Too busy.

Value for $. This place is cheap but did not session.

Crowd / Environment 2 - Lots of local Germans love this place. Every time I go in here its full of clientele with pop bellies, amputees, old guys who look like Smeagol from Lord of the Rings Creeping around very slowly. There were about 20 guys in the place when I arrived and 8 women working. 2 were doable. Lost Patience waiting my turn after an hour sitting on the red cum coach. Girl to guy 1 to 4.

2. FKK Sharks Friday 6/14.

Food / Facilities 8 - Had good BBQ. Place is clean. Nice full bar with decent service. Good outdoor area. NO AC in rooms.

Casting 7 - Hundreds of girls to choose from. So many they all start to look the same. Not as good as Living Room or Oase.

Service Levels - 6 Some Gems to be found here that will provide good service.

Value for $ 6 About half the girls here try to do the upsell but not as bad as Mainhatten and Palace. If you find a few gems that you see regularly expect better service.

Crowd / Environment 8 - Met one of the senior posters here had a good conversation. I have been to this club 20 times since 2017. My most visited club and favorite place on earth. Lots of energy in this place and good staff. Girl to guy 3 to 1 early 1 to 1 evening.

3. FKK Mainhatten Sunday 6/9 1030 pm to 1 am.

Food / Facilities 6 - They had a good spread in the Bistro. Schnitzel and Fries. I do like it better when they have the BBQ going during the day. Pool is nice. Beer included (if you can get the bar tenders attention) Large Kino awkward set up though. Weird glass doors in between main room and sauna area. Smoking room is where most of the girls hang out. If you don't want to smell like smoke can be hard to get a girls attention without going in there.

Casting 4 - Most of the girls here look the same. The most generic casting I have ever seen in FKK.

Service Levels 2 - This is an upsell place. Constant up-sell from all the girls. Then you give them the extra money they want and it is still terrible. Rushed terrible service from most providers. Even if you discuss before going to the room and agree they then try and upsell more.

Value for $ 1 - Upsell that never stops. Talked to the receptionist she told me to stop being so cheap and to leave. Avoid this place. ("erotic massage extra 50 euros, kiss extra 50 euros, BBBJ extra 50 euros, get the fuck out of here.).

Crowd / Environment 2 - Scum people in this place. I hate this club. Had a good experience back on 2017 during the day. Since then its been terrible. You can get Cocaine and Viagra here though. Girl to guy 1 to 1.

4. FKK Oase Thursday 6/6 230 pm to 2 am.

Food / Facilities - 8 Place was under construction. Had everyone in the Bistro and Pool Room. Staff here can be kind of rude. The food was OK, they have average made to order pizzas certain times of the day.

Casting - 8 - One step above sharks. I like that they have very young new girls here that still have sex like they do with normal guys back home.

Service Levels - 6 Varies here. Usually one out of every 3 sessions I have is good. If you can find a group of friends and one of the providers is good the others will probably be too. 65% of the girls will try and upsell you here. Make expectations clear before going to room.

Value for $- 4 Some stunners here, they want extra though. Don't expect many great 50 or 100 euro rooms.

Crowd / Environment 7 - Find some cool people to chat with in this club. Night time on weekends they have a DJ. Good vibes up until about midnight then it starts to decline. Was not crowded when I visited girl to guy 3 to 1.

5. FKK Palace Monday 6/10 11 pm to 1 am.

Food / Facilities - 8 Very Nice Club. AC in the rooms. I'm not a fan of the food but its ok. Heated floor in locker room. Nice Bar, Large Kino, Nice Suana.

Casting - 7 Casting here varies. Sometimes its hot, sometimes its generic. They don't let girls under 21 work here if you like the younger ones.

Service Levels - 5 Hit of miss here. 30% are good providers. The rest are up-selling scum.

Value for $ - 3 This is an up-sell place. Very high pressure non fun time. Can find a few Gems especially during day time hours. Night time it gets more difficult. High entry fee 70 euro.

Crowd / Environment. Nothing notable. Quiet Clientele. Girls are the same as most other places. Was not crowed. Girl to guy 2 to 1.

6. Sauna Club Living Room Saturday 6/8 1030 pm to 4 am.

Food / Facilities - 7 Had good BBQ, Pizza at midnight. Beers in fridge you can grab yourself. Fastest bartending service I have seen in FKK. MGMT is on top of shit here.

Casting 8 - Good variety here, Some stunners, along with girl next door types, to tatted milfs.

Service Levels - 8 About as good as your going to find for the quality of girls. Standard BBBJ, kissing, etc no upsell.

Value for $ - 8 No upsell here can get good service from most girls for the standard 50 to 100.

Crowd / Environment. Girl to guy ratio 1 to 1. Good party atmosphere at night. Night time club, lots of people visit here after Goldentyme during the day. Was crowded at night prime-time lots of wait for rooms. Would be better to visit on non weekend night.

7. Suana Club Acapulco Gold Sunday 6/9 2 pm to 430 pm.

Food / Facilities 8 - Very nice place for the low entry fee. Not Gourmet food but good enough for the low entry. Mouthwash provided. Kino was shrunk to add two more rooms.

Casting 7 - Good variety of girls here. Quality not too much lower then the 50 E clubs. Lots of young girls who just start work here.

Service Levels 8 - Kissing is standard here. Good energy and foreplay in most rooms. Not rushed. BBBJ 50/50 chance here depending on girl. No upsell.

Value for $ -8 Good service with decent looking girls for 40 U.

Crowd / Environment - 5 When I went this place was packed. Girl to Guy 1 to 4. Had to park 400 meters away. Long lines for food. Hard to find a place to sit. Just found the girls I wanted and took them immediately. When the Velbert location opens back up it will go down.

9. FKK Villa Venus Sat 6/8 230 pm to 430 pm.

Food / Facilities - 3 a slight step up from Dietz. They had some prepackaged pastries and such.

Casting - 3 - There were 10 girls here. 1 who would be average at other FKK's. 3 others fuckable the rest blah.

Service Levels - 10- You get whatever you want here no upsell. AO DFK CIM CIP.

Value for $ 10 - Everything you want. 30 Euros LOL!

Crowd / Environment. Very Nice girls. Lady at desk chainsmokeing cigs. Regular German customers. There was a guy sitting in the corner on his macbook for like 3 hours. Girl to guy ratio 1 to 1.

10. FKK Arabella.

Food / Facilities - 4 same as VV.

Casting - 6- Step up from VV. But the younger cuter girls are not AO.

Service Levels 5 - The girl I had Cindi was a bust. Still BBBJ but not AO. She wasn't into it.

Value for $ 8 - 30 Euros for some of the girls they have is a value. Just got to interview properly before to make sure you get the right one.

Crowd / Environment 8 - Had a nice chat with some of the men there and women. Almost has a swingers club vibe. Was asked if I wanted to have group sex with another guy and girl. Girl to guy ration 2 to 1.

[Sirioja]

Even WGs do this job for big fast, not easy, money, even sometimes pimps behind when some claim to be high class, but they provide a social job for guys who need sex, some in both parts even sometimes looking for a bit of love they need. According to girls, many married guys who can t get from their wife. When I say I m not married and if I was I would not come, girls don t believe me and look if I have mark on finger. Maybe for tax they get, but Germans are more clever than French to understand guys need to empty balls, when Sweden is just a shame about sex boats from Tallin. USA, land of porn close to LA, is just hypocrite joke. In France, prostitution is not forbidden, many escorts advertise on internet, but prosecution for clients, just stupid politics, You can look at beautiful Russians photos, but You can t taste, better guys go to make problems to girls they see in streets.

[Member #4636]

I meant about cleverness, which is quite different from studies, or speaking many languages. Even my chic with charm were not so high level cleverness, one of the very rare for me is Kate, certainly why she has such success in her new business, without needing to gossip or bullshit, but charming companionship.

Yes they are clever and smart but this has nothing to do with behave and attitude. I think FKK girls are either very smart or very dumb there is no between. But regarding behave and attitude which is something you learn among education they are far from that.

[Optimist]

She should become a nursery teacher!

I mean, how can feminists claim sex for money is derogatory when nurses clean the butts of sick 90 year old with diarrhea?

What you say is exactly what the girl said to me (apart from the feminist bits). She is now in a different healthcare career having retrained in Germany using her earnings from prostitution.

Three useful jobs. Some people have brains.

[Mr Ho]

While not getting into the same debate again, I broadly agree with you. I am however able to obtain good service at standard prices from a sufficient number of good looking girls in the megaclubs, and hence I have been going to those more often. The converse, I. E. Finding a sufficient number of high optics girls in the smaller, service oriented clubs has not been as easy a task, at least for me.

LR and GT is rather small club, especially LR. And personally, when it comes to service for standard 30 min rate, these two are the best I went from known clubs.

Oddly, in Artemis I got lucky few times of getting it all for 60 euro per 30 min session, meaning DFK, rimjob, DATY, BBBJ (it was before law) and fuck with condom, but I can count that in 6 years I went there till 2015. I am returning to Artemis this late summer, so I will see how that club changed after absences of few years.

NRW is good for service, but I tend to find optic of line up better in rip off club like palace and Artemis, underneath many many plastic monsters with ink on their body, I often found real beauty in those two clubs, usually they come with higher price tag LOL. Artemis disappointed me, let see if they change the line up to be better like it once used to be.

[Polyamorist]

I mean, how can feminists claim sex for money is derogatory when nurses clean the butts of sick 90 year old with diarrhea?

Salaam Pistons. At least nurses do something useful. Many girls in "respectable" jobs are doing make-work or worse.

I was recently smooching with a girl who was fresh from a call center. In her last job she was talking to people being rude to her all day. In her new job, guys were telling her how beautiful she was all day. Guess which job she preferred? Which job is better for people's mental health?

How about the pols switch their focus to outlawing telemarketing jobs, or any other industry that sets people against each other, instead of a service that people actually want?

[Pistons]

One of my favourites had been a nurse. She said she saw her new job as prostitute to be even more effective mental healthcare than being a nurse LOL.

She should become a nursery teacher!

I mean, how can feminists claim sex for money is derogatory when nurses clean the butts of sick 90 year old with diarrhea?