German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[Banana Boi]

Let this lounge and chat be liberal, instead of pointing fingers at other people will you? I mean we are just chatting here, not debating in court room pointing finger at each other as you do like in Pattaya forum or this forum or whatever. So what if someone has been once and he has opinion about club, I just read it and I may learn something fresh from him. I think everyone is entitled to their opinion about clubs or place and I am glad to listen to his opinion.

I was not pointing fingers at you specifically but you actually proved the point of my post. Making comments on how great a place is when you haven't been there in 4 years imo is ludicrous. Met a guy who told me and McA how great Brazil is then we find out he hadn't been for 8 years. Met another guy who told me Dubrovnik was the best then we find out he last visited 20+ years ago! How relevant is that info to the current scene?

The problem with posting information that is not current is that many guys who read these posts are not as knowledgeable as you are. They may only have a couple of days in Germany. If you post outdated information they may rely on your post to go to a specific club that used to be good but no longer is good.

[Sirioja]

For girls maybe GT is a promotion, but I am not so sure. For guys it is a demotion having to go there nowadays.

GT is just the best business for girls in Germany. A Hungarian from Sharks, real fire in bed, prefers GT business than everything for 50 at Sharks with night clients there, and she asked for pleasure in bed. A really bloody room with her, she screamed when she saw my Hanibal Lecter face. LR girls who are now at GT, seem happy about their new business, even those who said they didn't like GT when they were at LR, but money talk and change girls, only Amira preferred to stay at LR. Even German Mio touring at Globe, regret GT, but she can t work anymore because she doesn't want to register.

[Mr Ho]

Can I ask when you were last at each of Palace and Artemis? I find on ISG, at least in the Pattaya forum, there are so many frequent posters who have strong opinions of a club but when you read between the lines you find out they have not been to that club or even Pattaya in 2 years or only went once or twice ever to that club.

Well Palace last February, been there since 2015, I make one to three trips per year to Germany just for FKK. Usually each trip ranging from minimum 5 FKK days to 10 FKK days, max was 14 FKK days. During trip, I go to FKK everyday. This FKK trips began since 2009 when I first discover FKK Artemis.

My last visit to Artemis was 2015, went from 2009 till 2015, I stopped from 2015 due to lack of stunner in line up, switch to Hessen and nrw. I thought I will never return to Artemis, but this late summer, I am returning to Artemis and Artemis only trip to see if things changed back to how it used to be in early 2010's.

Is this going to turn into another one has not been enough to FKK, or I am more experienced in FKK than you or Pattaya as you mention etc debate? LOL. I mean I am fly in monger and I cannot go everyday from here to German FKK man. It is so for many fly in mongers posters here too, I fly 12 hours man just for FKK.

Let this lounge and chat be liberal, instead of pointing fingers at other people will you? I mean we are just chatting here, not debating in court room pointing finger at each other as you do like in Pattaya forum or this forum or whatever. So what if someone has been once and he has opinion about club, I just read it and I may learn something fresh from him. I think everyone is entitled to their opinion about clubs or place and I am glad to listen to his opinion.

Like there are clubs I only been once. Like Oase and Globe, but even with those two clubs, I do have my own opinion too, can't I have one?

[Banana Boi]

there are real stunners in both palace and Artemis.

Can I ask when you were last at each of Palace and Artemis? I find on ISG, at least in the Pattaya forum, there are so many frequent posters who have strong opinions of a club but when you read between the lines you find out they have not been to that club or even Pattaya in 2 years or only went once or twice ever to that club.

[Mr Ho]

In your opinion, who is the best looking girl at Living Room? And what number would you give her for optics and for service?

Exotic type girl, I like Rose. Very sportive body, she claim she works out and I believe her by looking at her body, small face, somehow bit oriental though she is 100% Hungarian, very structured face with big eye, long neck and all natural fit body and really good service.

White type girl: I liked this blonde girl from Romania. I cannot recall her name, most of time, I do not bother to remember or sometimes even ask her name, but she is natural blonde, beautiful natural breast, quite big breast, shaped nice, she is white Romanian blonde, no tattoo, apparently law student and good service. Once I told Sirioja this before and he mentioned couple of names. Good service.

Another white type girl: It was one of the sister, I think and they do not lookalike. She was Romanian who was introduced to by one of the poster here, I will not say his name for his privacy, but he is welcome to jump in if he read this post. She was also natural body, blonde, but I think this one is colored blonde. Good service.

However, I do not think LR is stunner club optically, you do get lucky once in awhile, but it is not same level of stunner you find like in palace or Artemis in early 2010's. I think LR is more younger, natural girls, with limited or no tattoo and they provide good service for just 50 euro per 30 min, you go loner it even get much better. It is only club you will get DFK that easily in 50 euro 30 min session. I think LR serve me as this kinda club.

GT on the other end, I found bit more stunner and level of stunner is same level that you would find in Artemis and palace, but problem is they are booked mostly whole day, so hard to get them into room. And GT clearly has over crowded issues of mongers.

It is odd thing to say, but oddly, I also find Oceans to be best optic stunner to be possibly found club in nrw, it is close to center, and is upsell club, but again more beautiful girls get drawn to the club where they can maximize their superior beauty to other girls, so they tend to gather more to near city center upsell club? This is something I began to notice.

[Pessimist]

Pessimist's post offers some perspective. Financial priorities matter: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2325359.

Income is only one variable. All things being equal, a single, childless bachelors who are approaching retirement can spend more money on luxuries such as mongering. Stage of life also matters too (I. E. Whether one will soon receive an inheritance from parents). I recently heard of one monger in his 50's who is dumping large sums into the coffers of his FKK wife. This monger in his 50's reportedly told his friends "I can sell my flat, because I do not have any kids to hand it down to. And I can't take that money with me". The implication is that he could blow through his money and live life to the fullest..

When I was in b-school, I interviewed with a management consultancy. The case study involved what should a credit card company do? It turned out that the stable income earning, high credit score customers who pay their balance every month were money losing for the company, as they never roll any balances, and in fact the card issuer ends up providing free credit to them for a large portion of the year (from the time of their purchases to the time of their payment every month). At the same time, the bad Fico score, low income customers who have massive balances on several cards are also not good customers, as there is a real risk that many of them may default and collection is a huge problem. The best customers for the banks and card issuers were the middle range, OK income customers with expensive habits who perpetually have large balances, are financially not truly savvy even if they think they are, paying at 16% rate forever and not being smart enough to realize they are being fleeced.

One girl I was banging for payment and gifts (not an FKK girl) once asked me how much money I make or what's my net worth or something along those lines. I asked "why do you care, the only thing that should matter to you is if I have enough money to give your few hundred dollar payment". She reconsidered that statement and agreed with me.

From the perspective of any WG, the best customers are not the high net, fiscally prudent men. They are the equivalent of the high income customers of bank who always pay off the balance at the end of the month. The best customers for WGs are the men who make a hundred to 120 grand a year but spend 40 of that on prostitutes and clubs. If the WG snares enough such men as her regulars, her own career in the club is made.

[Escape Artist]

I cannot agree that LR has good casting optically, it is OK, only good point I can say about LR is amazing service for just 50 euro 30 min session and girls being more younger than other clubs. But optically, it is OK level, no stunner at LR.

In your opinion, who is the best looking girl at Living Room? And what number would you give her for optics and for service?

[Theo110]

For girls maybe GT is a promotion, but I am not so sure. For guys it is a demotion having to go there nowadays.

I only went to GT once in January 2017. When I went on the FKK tour service trip. The guide and other guests hyped the place up big time. "They said Its the best club, blah blah". I did find one girl and have one great session. However the place was packed to the rafters with men. There was not any place to sit or enjoy anything. Most of the girls were heavily tatted, tons of makeup, plastic surgery everywhere. It made me uncomfortable. I Wanted out. The guide kept going back multiple times during that trip instead I just decided to stay in the hotel room, sleep in, and meet them later at another club. I thought maybe my experience was based on just a very busy day at the club but from other reports my experience seems typical.

[Pistons]

(before being promoted to Goldentime).

For girls maybe GT is a promotion, but I am not so sure. For guys it is a demotion having to go there nowadays.

[Mr Ho]

Theo:

You give LR and Oase both an 8 for casting. And it seems this is not including service as you have a separate category for that. But I am guessing there is the usual aprox 8-10 lookers at Oase. Which is fair enough to give it an 8. Has LR really got the same amount of lookers?

Also you give Aca Gold the same score as you give Sharks. Both a 7! Now I truly wonder which Acapulco V girls have gone over? And who has not gone up to Great Palace. I assume Hannah and her group is still at Aca G. Maybe Lucy? If both of them are there, it is a big bonus, but there should be more numerous girls at such high quality to have that score. I recall my only Aca Gold visit 18 months ago, I gave it a complete no for lineup score in my review. So the lineup better have changed drastically to be on Sharks level!

I cannot agree that LR has good casting optically, it is OK, only good point I can say about LR is amazing service for just 50 euro 30 min session and girls being more younger than other clubs. But optically, it is OK level, no stunner at LR.

Oase is the one I am not sure about. Due to extreme upsell, I only went once to Oase, but come to think about it, there were some stunner level girl optically like at palace and Artemis. Only few, but I saw and went with them in Oase, so maybe Oase is like palace and Artemis where there are few stunners in line up? Most are plastic at Artemis, but underneath them and between, there are real stunners in both palace and Artemis.

[Sirioja]

It's very interesting that people who say prostitution is bad for women are either the women who never worked as a prostitute (and thus actually understood the benefits of prostitution) or the men who has something to gain by saying that (eg some politicians or lawyers). Of course there are some exceptions that prove the norm.

For me, better for women to never try this bad job, but some are ready for anything for money, you can see some changing for money, and guys need sex, even in hypocrite religion.

[ExpatLover]

Living Room had several lookers when I was there on the Saturday Night. Very good quality looks wise probably the best of my trip. ACA Gold had more girls there than usual currently with the Velbert location closed. ACA usually has about 30 percent worth it for me to room with, this last trip it was so packed every time I saw one that was up to my standard I just took her to the room. At one point that day every girl in the place was getting fucked except for 3.

Also my opinion may be skewed differently based on my taste which is I like the younger non tatted, non plastic, petite, innocent, girl next door looking girls. The girls who just start and have this look tend to work at ACA Gold, Oase, and living room, (before being promoted to Goldentime).

When I first started going to FKKs Sharks was my favorite but not so many girls there anymore. Also since I have been there so many times (more than 20 since Jan 2017) I keep seeing the same girls and it may be boring me.

Anyone have any clubs I didn't visit where the casting skews to my taste as stated above?

You are looking for the same thing than me and it is difficult to find, like you say always the same girls around. Try your chance in any Starbucks: it is working for me but only in China where the things are quite easier for the white guys.

[Mr Ho]

Salaam zusammen,

Is prostitution the only profession where experience is a liability rather than an advantage? Be honest.

It is traumatizing for some or fair to say most girls. I mean girls in FKK take about around 1000 different strangers penis each year, every year.

But I have came across some FKK girls who love being prostitute in FKK environment and one of them claim to tell her future husband about her job in FKK because it is such a big part of her life she said.

As a client side as a monger, it is priceless experience that echoes in eternity, which also secure us good sex life we men all dreamed of when we were young teen. Well that part of lustful dream came true for us mongers.

However, not only for girls, FKK prostitution environment mess with mongers head too because things that supposed to be limited experience become unlimited experience for us mongers as long as you pay entrance and fee per 30 min, then sky is the limit. Personally, I am loving such experiences.

[Polyamorist]

Salaam zusammen,

Is prostitution the only profession where experience is a liability rather than an advantage? Be honest.

[Theo110]

Theo:

You give LR and Oase both an 8 for casting. And it seems this is not including service as you have a separate category for that. But I am guessing there is the usual aprox 8-10 lookers at Oase. Which is fair enough to give it an 8. Has LR really got the same amount of lookers?

Also you give Aca Gold the same score as you give Sharks. Both a 7! Now I truly wonder which Acapulco V girls have gone over? And who has not gone up to Great Palace. I assume Hannah and her group is still at Aca G. Maybe Lucy? If both of them are there, it is a big bonus, but there should be more numerous girls at such high quality to have that score. I recall my only Aca Gold visit 18 months ago, I gave it a complete no for lineup score in my review. So the lineup better have changed drastically to be on Sharks level!

Living Room had several lookers when I was there on the Saturday Night. Very good quality looks wise probably the best of my trip. ACA Gold had more girls there than usual currently with the Velbert location closed. ACA usually has about 30 percent worth it for me to room with, this last trip it was so packed every time I saw one that was up to my standard I just took her to the room. At one point that day every girl in the place was getting fucked except for 3.

Also my opinion may be skewed differently based on my taste which is I like the younger non tatted, non plastic, petite, innocent, girl next door looking girls. The girls who just start and have this look tend to work at ACA Gold, Oase, and living room, (before being promoted to Goldentime).

When I first started going to FKKs Sharks was my favorite but not so many girls there anymore. Also since I have been there so many times (more than 20 since Jan 2017) I keep seeing the same girls and it may be boring me.

Anyone have any clubs I didn't visit where the casting skews to my taste as stated above?