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[Pistons]

. At least you should be knowing how widely STD are spread through Germany right now. More than 100 thousands of people have STD in Germany.

Where did you get this number from? From earlier discussions here and simple googling I thought it was well known that herpes in some form and maybe even genital warts were common in way over half the population. Although mostly these STD's are latent and doesn't show and signs of being there. Perhaps something like 80-90% of all sexually active people. So I believe your numbers should be over 50 million. Or do you rule out those two std's?

[Mr Ho]

I know some peole that carry some instant HIV tests for the escort they meet, but it seems a bit too much unless you find yourself in high risk areas such as SE Asia, Africa, Caribbean islands or Ukraine.

Stay safe and enjoy!

Rock.

I did not know Ukraine has high HIV infection rate.

Bareback intercourse via anal is high risk, pussy intercourse is quite low still.

[Mr Ho]

I'm not afraid about loneliness, I make my sports on my own and they are more important than brothels. Who could I take with me to kill oneself climbing Zoncolan or Mortirolo? But it s just my passion to try to perform a better climbing time. If not good, I go again as soon I recover. For free ride, security staff didn't want to let me go in la Grave, they said it s too dangerous to go alone without ARVA, I explained it s too dangerous to take somebody with me, so I prefer to go alone, I decided to go, I opened one run above Chancel lake, 2 other skiers followed when they saw me going, but when I started I didn't see and know what would happen, so better to be alone because we never know what may happen, if You lose grip and fall in rocks, ARVA won't help you, but in this passion, we know risks about rocks, avalanches, crevices, I'm very careful, I never had problems on free ride because I know better not to do a mistake when I alone, my accidents were when skiing bumps, losing control, and flying over, but we are ready for our personal passion, it s even impossible to resist to this drug. Many girls take cocaine, I need adrenaline. But single for risks.

Sports help in bed with girls. For those who try to control, when you exhaust them, then they lose control.

Siri, it is good that you enjoy sports so much on your own, it is important for man or anyone really to have things that one can enjoy on their own instead of depending on one single thing whether it is wife, girlfriend, friend or other activities.

I do sport, but I ski, run and work out that is where I stop, I do not need adrenaline, I just need orgasm, so for me mongering is hobby, I like fucking stunner beautiful girls from all over the world, filling up my book of sexual memories as much as I can while I am here.

[Takedown]

All things being equal I like younger WGs, but I also appreciate a MILF every once in a while. Late-30's, maybe even mid-40's. I would rather have an old Porsche than a new Dacia.

True story folks. We're talking Porsches built in the 70's guys.

[MythoVirus]

Don't be. This was an awesome and readable description. The only caveat being, that I was more interested in real experiences than theoretical possibilities, which all sound frightening. Thanks so far for all the other experiences.

I think then so far: DFK is the safest. BBBJ. Forbidden anyway- the 2nd safest-- and anything else is to be avoided anyway.

No problem, glad if it helped you even a bit.

Regarding more practical sex safety.

The safest from top to down strictly in regard to STI.

Zero Risk the safest.

-Abstien from sex.

OCD safe zone.

- Handjob only / Titfuck / Feet stuff.

Very Safe zone.

- DFK / DATY / DATO.

- Covered BJ.

Quite Safe zone.

- BBBJ.

- Covered Vaginal.

- Covered Anal.

Mild Risk zone.

- Vagina.

Very Risky zone.

- Anal.

Some thoughts,

-The reason why I consider BBBJ safer than covered sex, is because covered sex always have the potential of a malfunctioned condom, ie it was broken, or it was not correctly used (for example I saw many WG don't roll the condom on the penis, they just crazy stretch it and fit the penis in, which I think can pose risk for STI).

-The list risk was based on STI only, it doesn't take into consideration of other infections, for example in some seasons, some nasty airborne viruses can be spread by DFK such as Corona Virus / New strain of Flu / Sars, so in that regard a BBBJ only can be safer than DFK and so on.

I'm currently staying at the quite safe zone, and its working for me, but again there is no correct answer, how far you want to risk something depends on you personally.

[McAdonis]

But unrelated to your main point I don't understand this concept of women hating hardcore monger. On one hand, they hate women, but they want to be with women, have sex with them, kiss them etc? Can't even understand how that works.

Some mens rights activists only hate Western women, not necessarily all women.

The Toronto attacker posted on social media that he wanted to "overthrow all the Chads and Stacys". Chad refers to the dumb jock, captain of the football team. Stacy refers to the cheerleader prom queen. In other words, the pinnacles of the mating pool. Nerds could work hard and get ahead later in life, at which point, they would be able to woo girls with not their looks but with promises of financial security.

Back when America was great, there was a balance of power between the sexes. Men held the cards when it came to money. Women held the cards with their sexuality. But now the feminist agenda has taken over. Women are earning almost equal pay. Men no longer hold any advantage. Any male who is not a "Chad" should turn their back on Western society and refuse to be a pawn. That could mean (1) abstaining from women (2) seeking out prostitutes or (3) moving to country that has traditional values.

[Kuni042]

I am sorry for the countless spelling mistakes.

Don't be. This was an awesome and readable description. The only caveat being, that I was more interested in real experiences than theoretical possibilities, which all sound frightening. Thanks so far for all the other experiences.

I think then so far: DFK is the safest. BBBJ. Forbidden anyway- the 2nd safest-- and anything else is to be avoided anyway.

[XXL]

Folks, I tried to search for info on this here- but failed. So my question is: How do you folks assess the risk of serious infections with various sorts of sex in German FKK Clubs? - I post it here, because I think the risk in 3rd world counties like India or Ghana. Maybe quite different.

Especially interested in the:

Risk of DFK.

Risk of BBBJ.

Risk of uncovered vaginal penetration.

I've had BBBJs for a decade in Germany, at an average rate of 5 times a week, not a single orally transmitted infection to report.

I also pass my tongue between the girls' asscheeks before intercourse. Here too, nothing to report.

I really think penetration is when it becomes risky and it also seems to be the opinions of most girls. Pathogens are very prude and conservative. They don't expect humans to bring mouth parts into contact with genitals so they infect fornication pathways less than they do normal intercourse.

[McAdonis]

Whatever you think about luuv, girl-friendliness and "real" feelings, mark my words: very few hot women are worth having sex with 10 years on.

Even if she doesn't take you to the cleaners in the meantime, what will you do when your (common law) wive has downgraded from an 8 to a 5?

Not everyone sees things from the hardcore monger perspective. For us, fucking the hottest women possible is priority number one. Normal men can probably fuck a 5 who used to be an 8, and still obtain an erection and orgasm. Why? Because these men aren't addicted to porn or prostitutes.

Most normal men marry women of the same social circle and similar socio-economic background. That alone will reduce the likeliness that you are taken to the cleaners. Climbing the corporate ladder is all about knowing the right people. Having a "pedigree" wife helps you navigate that. I. e. Father-in-law, her university friends, or even people she meets at a wine-tasting.

A woman after legal age in the West lasts about as long as a new car. Imagine you car is old and you're not even allowed to get rid of it to buy a new one.

All things being equal I like younger WGs, but I also appreciate a MILF every once in a while. Late-30's, maybe even mid-40's. I would rather have an old Porsche than a new Dacia.

[Takedown]

I have one thing to add: YOLO, medically speaking of course.

Tl; dr there is no simple answer.

I myself think BBBJ is fine, the others are way to risky for me.

You choose what suits you.

Not all STI / STD are created equal (or evolved whatever floats your boat).

Lets talk about some of the STI.

I will group them in a way I see fit..

[Rocky V]

Folks, I tried to search for info on this here- but failed. So my question is: How do you folks assess the risk of serious infections with various sorts of sex in German FKK Clubs? - I post it here, because I think the risk in 3rd world counties like India or Ghana. Maybe quite different.

Especially interested in the:

Risk of DFK.

Risk of BBBJ.

Risk of uncovered vaginal penetration.

These issues have been discussed several times here. What you should look to evaluate the risk is to search for infections rate in the general population and multiply by a factor of 100 for potential infections rates in FKK. In my 4 year-long FKK experience, I have only caught gonorrhoea once and it was successfully treated with a course of antibiotics. I never have unprotected intercourse and I normally have CBJ with girls that have tongue piercing.

The rate of serious infections such as HIV, or syphyllis, I believe is still low in FKK if you don't have unprotected intercourse.

With DFK, unless the WG has bleeding gums or piercings, it is relatively safe. I don't normally bother with DFK as you may come after a client who has just exploded his cum into your girl's mouth.

With BBBJ, it is still relatively safe, but you may catch the usual chlamydia, herpes or gonorrhoea. However, rates for serious infections through BBBJ are very low. Unless you take part in gangbangs or similar.

With Bareback intercourse, infections rates increase a lot and you should not do it, if you are concerned about your health. Latex-free comdoms are almost as good as not wearng one, but they provide good protection.

I know some peole that carry some instant HIV tests for the escort they meet, but it seems a bit too much unless you find yourself in high risk areas such as SE Asia, Africa, Caribbean islands or Ukraine.

Stay safe and enjoy!

Rock.

[HiroHirox]

Your concern is quite understandable. And the answer is crystal clear. DFK, BBBJ, DATY, and uncovered vaginal penetration is undoubtedly all highly risky. Especially uncovered vaginal penetration is out of question. Let's face it. Please don't you ever do that. Considering the number of daily sexual intercourses conducted at FKK all through Germany, you should be understanding the very basic rule. That is always use condom and avoid DFK, BBBJ and DATY. It's not the money you should be concerned with but the risk you're taking through your "hobby". If you're so into GFE and shit, go to check blood test every 3 months. At least you should be knowing how widely STD are spread through Germany right now. More than 100 thousands of people have STD in Germany. Google them. Don't risk your life by gambling. Later on you'd realize the price you paid is extremely high.

Once again go take blood test. Good luck.

Folks, I tried to search for info on this here- but failed. So my question is: How do you folks assess the risk of serious infections with various sorts of sex in German FKK Clubs? - I post it here, because I think the risk in 3rd world counties like India or Ghana. Maybe quite different.

Especially interested in the:

Risk of DFK.

Risk of BBBJ.

Risk of uncovered vaginal penetration.

[MythoVirus]

Especially interested in the:

Risk of DFK.

Risk of BBBJ.

Risk of uncovered vaginal penetration.

Tl; dr there is no simple answer.

I myself think BBBJ is fine, the others are way to risky for me.

You choose what suits you.

Not all STI / STD are created equal (or evolved whatever floats your boat).

Lets talk about some of the STI.

I will group them in a way I see fit.

(N. Be I am writing the names on top of my head, so many spelling mistakes, and always check information behind an internet post).

You have the very easily curable bacterial infections;.

Class A.

1.) Nessieria Gonorrhea.

2.) Chlymedia trachomatis.

3) Mycoplasma homonis.

4.) Ureaplasma.

5.) Hemophiluis decryi.

6.) Dovoinosis.

7.) Tricihomonas vaginalis (actually a parasite not a bacterial).

-All those mentioned above can be easily cured with simple antibiotics.

-all of them have the potential to cause complications but nevertheless in a developed country with good health system those bacteria usually pose no major harm.

-also there is some rare strains that need more aggresive antibiotics but those are rare.

-most of them can be acquired by vaginal / anal sex.

- the most notable exceptions are the first two which can be also be transmitted by BBBJ.

-Anyways if treated, those infection disappear and not come back unless re-infected again.

-In conclusion I myself think those infections are weak and not much of a worry.

Lets move on.

Class b.

1.) Syphillis (caused by Trepona Palliduim).

-This baceria if not treated can be a big trouble to the body, it can cause on the long term if not treeated (10 years+) major life threatning complications, such as Aortitis / Dementia / Tabes Dorsalis / nephrotic syndrome and ultimalty renal failure / and and and.

- It intially causes painless ulcer on the genetlia, so never ignore a painless ulcer and always visit a dr for that.

-The baceria can be easily cured if treated early, even the now considered pencillin can easily kill that bug.

- It is transmitted by vaginal / Anal.

Skin to skin contact.

I think it has the potential to be transmitted in BBBJ if an ulcer is.

Present in a WG lips.

- I highly recommend everyone screens for this bug like once a year, because to recap, its very easily cured early, however if left lingering in the body it can be deadly.

Lets move on.

Class see, the ectoparasite.

1.) Examples: Crab / Lice / Scabies.

-I'm not that familiar with those parasites to be honest.

- transmitted during skin contact in vaginal / anal.

- NO BBBJ transmission.

- No need to screen for them.

- Although iffy in there nature, its a meh, and not a seriois infection.

And they are highly curable.

Lets talk about the viruses.

Class the.

The only exception to what happens in Vegas always stays in Vegas because that ***** will always comes back after Vegas.

1.) Herpes Simplex virus 1 and 2 (aka HSV).

- This virus is quite common in the population, around 50-70% of the population have it (depends on geography).

-Traditionally HSV 1 is transmitted by kissing and HSV 2 by sex, however as society norms changed, and oral sex became more popular, the 2 viruses can occur in either kissing or sex,.

- Usually its a stigma and annoyance only, with recurrent outbreaks (canker sores) from time to time.

- Some lucky people have it but never develop outbreaks.

- Sadly this **** is transmitted by our beloved BBBJ and Vaginal / anal and even mere kissing (HSV1).

-No good screen for it in the lab.

- There is treatment (acyclovir) which only decrease duration but it doesn't eradicate the virus.

- the only way to avoid it, is to avoid any sexual practice and even normal kissing.

- If you can't avoid sexual practice, then as a non-scientific home remedy my only advise is to avoid a contact with a WG with an obviois lip herpes. Although a transmission can occur even without the presence of an ulcer. Thats the least you can try to avoid it.

- sorry this virus is always a risk in an FKK, and no mean can stop it.

Class E.

1.) Human Papilloma virus.

- this virus is usually transmitted by skin to skin contact, and also not very common but also not rare it can be in BBBJ.

-This virus has many strains.

- Some strains are benign and only cause warts, which are super ugly and a stigma, but it can be treated, and it can disappear by itself with time.

- Some strains are malignant and are a major risk for cervical cancer worldwide, so I urge any monger who is married to ask his wife to screen for cervical cancer by Pap smear, very important screening tool. The malignant types can rarely cause penile cancer but its so rare so no need to panic.

- Intrestingly this virus is the major threat to our DATY as it can cause larynx cancer but again that rare, so don't sweat it, but don't ignore it either a fact is a fact.

Class X.

The 3 very dangerous viruses.

1.) HIV.

2.) Hepatitis b.

3.) Hepatitis c.

- I'm not going to write about them as most people are well educated about their risk, transmission, diagnosis and treatment.

- The only good thing about them that they pose little to no risk for a monger getting a BBBJ.

- Avoiding vaginal / anal unprotected is the greatest measure to limit the risks.

That ends it. That's a brief summary about some of the risks.

I am sorry for the countless spelling mistakes.

[BigBuddy69]

Uncovered vaginal sex: say Hello, to gonorrhoea and chlamydia.

DFK: you can catch a flu.

BBBJ: everyone knows it's totally forbidden! I think the risks are very low. Never met a guy who got something by a BJ. Maybe after some anal rimming you could get some urinary infection.

[Kuni042]

Folks, I tried to search for info on this here- but failed. So my question is: How do you folks assess the risk of serious infections with various sorts of sex in German FKK Clubs? - I post it here, because I think the risk in 3rd world counties like India or Ghana. Maybe quite different.

Especially interested in the:

Risk of DFK.

Risk of BBBJ.

Risk of uncovered vaginal penetration.