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[McAdonis]

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-51214864

It showed:

81% develop mild symptoms
14% develop severe symptoms
5% become critically ill

Less than 0.5% of patients aged under 50 have died, according to the Chinese Centres of Disease Control.

However, that figure spikes rapidly to:

1.3% in their 50s
3.6% in their 60s
8% in their 70s
15% over 80

The death rate for people with no other health problems is 0.9%.

However, this rises to:

6% in people with high blood pressure
6% in people with long-term lung problems such as those caused by a lifetime of smoking
7% in people with diabetes
11% in people with cardiovascular disease

I agree with Kuni. At the epicenter at least, I suspect that there were a lot of people who never registered themselves. Because the hospitals were so overloaded, people with mild symptoms never went to the hospital to get tested and recuperated at home without medical care. That is my hope anyway. But then again, a good portion of those people with mild symptoms and never got tested may have just had the normal flu.

There is a confirmed case of a 20-year old girl from Wuhan who never had symptoms. She never even had a fever. She only got tested after five of her family members fell ill with coronavirus. The 33 year old German businessman in Bavaria felt better after three days and went back to work. That's how two of his colleagues got infected.

[TurdyCurdyOne]

What are the odds of getting a GFE at any of the FKK or other clubs in Germany?

Are there any of them that take steps to promote GFE for their customers?

What is the cheapest place to live in Germany near a good FKK club.

Searching for greener pastures.

[Pistons]

Why so worried?

I'd play tag team if I had caught it. Too bad I don't have any plans on going to northern Italy (nor Asia for that matter). We'll all get it within a few years anyway, so better just get it over with. I'm more worried about the vaccines that eventually will come, with their side effects.

[Kuni042]

3. 4 is the quotient of registered infected vs actually died. It is a highly biased number. We should realize that most people that are infected likely never registered, since most have only light symptoms. Reason I, why this number would be massively lower.

Also 80 plus people present the majority who die. So again the quotient for. Say 60 or less. Drops below 2 percent.

Further of the 60 and younger people who die, most have COPD, asthma, diabetes --so if you don't have any of the preconditions, the actual death rate could be as low as 0. 1% or so.

All just guesses -- but just saying the 3. 4 is a very high overgeneralization.

So it is not that bad. But it is still very bad: Indeed it has the making of becoming one of largest global catastrophes this planet has witnessed since WWII. It is a very major serious event. Interesting to see how this is all down-played in the media.

We are not yet in the 2004 tsunami range - "just 3000" folks dead so far. But when will it stop. ?

.... but the known percentage of coronavirus deaths is at 3. 4%. So if the same number of people who get infected by the flu could get infected by covid19 then the death rate would be massive.

[Kuni042]

Yes, I read about it too. But I doubt one should take this preventively. I guess once you show symptoms and being tested it is not too late?

Apparently chloroquine might be the cure.

Healthy people and children shouldn't worry too much.

[Toy Man]

"I'm About to End This Man's Whole Career" This was me basically going to do to FKK.

Just here to vent, today I should have been to FKK world and tomorrow FKK Oase, but not really.

One week back I bought my airplane ticket, rented a car, reserved 2 hotels, as I was going to come to Frankfurt for 2 days. The week went painfully slow, as I was counting the hours when to reach Frankfurt. The damage for all the mentioned tickets was around 800 Euros.

On Wednesday (1 day before my travel plan), I was grinding at work, I had a 16 hour shift, 1 hour before ending my shitty shift, I faced a suspected "Corona" case. Had to take nasal / throat swabs from the suspected case, under precautionary measures (gown, gloves, N95,eye protection, hair cover, and shoe covers).

Took the samples. Ended my shift, then went home. Since then I had 12 hours left prior to my flight to FKK land. Started to stress about traveling or not. As the case was a mere "suspected" only. Kept checking the labs sample for a result, but still pending, until 5 hours before my flight, it turns out the suspected case, is +ve for Corona..

Stay safe. I am considering not going to FKK for a while too, even though I just live minutes away, then again. Maybe later. When more information about the COVID-19 is available, it seems it's already nearby and making its way toward the masses.

[KingOfBongo]

Apparently chloroquine might be the cure.

Healthy people and children shouldn't worry too much.

[Downandup]

I do hope to be wrong, but this virus could already have crossed the Alps.

I'm afraid that it has: https://www.thelocal.de/20200226/two...med-in-germany.

Quarantine may not be the answer for much longer as incidents are popping up across Europe. It was known that it could only be a short term solution that gave the experts time to analyse the virus and time is running out. I don't know how much longer that this can be effective.

And apologies to Gino as I did not know how very deadly this disease is compared to the flu, I kept on saying that 650,000 people die from the flu each year but did not know that that 650,000 is about 10 - 20 people deaths out of 100,000 infections - 0.1% - 0.2% but the known percentage of coronavirus deaths is at 3. 4%. So if the same number of people who get infected by the flu could get infected by covid19 then the death rate would be massive.

[Gino02]

He was convicted in a court of law. Around here, people respect the courts. I know he has his own share of fanboys but most people will be happy that he will be locked up for a good many years. Thank you.

That was Mew York court and jury. Harvey should appeal to the Supreme Court. Let's see what that highest court says, and we will wait for your take then. You again skirted to my question conveniently: Do you realize that you bring out personal attacks on me many times, but I just stick to the topic of the conversation or debate?

[Gino02]

I am choosing not to go. I never said people should be forced to go. You were advocating that anyone with Asian look, even when German immigration let's them inside, should be stopped at the club doors. Even if a guy with an Asian look was living in Frankfurt for a long time, you said such a guy should not be allowed inside the club. Now, Italians, Germans, Greeks and Americans are getting infected. I wonder if your view is now that anyone with an Italian, German, Greek or American look, whatever that look may be, should be banned? If not, why not?

What I recommended back then would have worked if was implemented back then. Too late now. You can keep arguing but the facts are not really supporting your argument.

[PunterWanderer]

In that case Wellcum should close since it's too many Italian clients.

Let's ban Italians from the clubs. I wonder what happens with the clubs in that case?

They are not there yet, but I see that coming anytime soon.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...025&viewfull=1#post2428025.

Not sure if banning Italians would actually work at this point. I do hope to be wrong, but this virus could already have crossed the Alps.

[Pessimist]

You seemed to be very convinced by the "she said" part of the legal argument without actually witnessing or direct knowledge of what happened. How do you know he wasn't "nice" like you said by "giving them the coveted roles"? Isn't that the same "gift" you are talking about? Also, do you realize that you bring out personal attacks on me many times, but I just stick to the topic of the conversation or debate?

He was convicted in a court of law. Around here, people respect the courts. I know he has his own share of fanboys but most people will be happy that he will be locked up for a good many years. Thank you.

[Pessimist]

And you were arguing against the threat and the quarantines only few weeks back. Glad you have come to senses brother. Better late than never.

I am choosing not to go. I never said people should be forced to go. You were advocating that anyone with Asian look, even when German immigration let's them inside, should be stopped at the club doors. Even if a guy with an Asian look was living in Frankfurt for a long time, you said such a guy should not be allowed inside the club. Now, Italians, Germans, Greeks and Americans are getting infected. I wonder if your view is now that anyone with an Italian, German, Greek or American look, whatever that look may be, should be banned? If not, why not?

[Kuni042]

Likely massive coronavirus. Spreading in Heinsberg / near GT / Bruggen.

Update: this Heinsberg Corona-case guy was apparently a mass-spreader- and now there are 5 corona-cases just in NRW. According to a recent FAZ article. Heinsberg is just 10 km from Bruggen.

This is quickly getting into italian proportions: https://www.faz.net/aktuell/gesellsc...-16652280.html.

100% this is affecting business. NRW in Germany has its first coronavirus case in Heinsberg. The male, 47 y old, is in deep shit. A country-wide scare is immanent.

Now -- there are 3 logics to work on:

A) get an infection quickly. As long as still some good beds in the ICUs (intensive care units) are available. Then visit FKK massively now. Grin. Take your odds.. and hopefully you are "immunizised" - and ok to go more to FKK..

B) or wait a bit. Until treatment folks have more experience. You can still visit FKK - -good luck with that gamble.

C) or hide. Maybe until may and hope this will behave like the flue which is typically gone by May.

[Kuni042]

100% this is affecting business. NRW in Germany has its first coronavirus case in Heinsberg. The male, 47 y old, is in deep shit. A country-wide scare is immanent.

Now -- there are 3 logics to work on:

A) get an infection quickly. As long as still some good beds in the ICUs (intensive care units) are available. Then visit FKK massively now. Grin. Take your odds.. and hopefully you are "immunizised" - and ok to go more to FKK..

B) or wait a bit. Until treatment folks have more experience. You can still visit FKK - -good luck with that gamble.

C) or hide. Maybe until may and hope this will behave like the flue which is typically gone by May.

Since the epidemic can spread easily in such a club, do you think next month some of the girls will avoid coming to work?