German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[Pistons]

Artemis is owned by Kennan and his big brother, and if there is some other owner, it is most likely Turkish origin organization! But some say these guys are Kurdish, not Turkish! Well, who knows!

As for HA, Colloseum is also owned by HA! I did like some of HA pimped German girls, but only at the beginning when these girls begin because after few years they begin to get tattoo, plastic surgeries, too big tit job as HA like them to have; This is not my type!

They could be Kurdish Turkish? Kurdistan is not a country. Yet anyway. So nobody is only Kurdish for the time being. At least not legally speaking.

In addition to the tattoos and too much silicone on many of the German girls seen especially at Artemis and GT over the years, you forgot the one thing that creeps me out the most: the liters of Botox they slap all over their faces. Welcome to the uncanny valley! As if some of the early simulation programmers were bikers.

[Mr Ho]

"What happen to principle of responsible investment set by UN?" - Banks are regulated by their local regulators in their jurisdiction -- FDIC or OCC or the Fed in the US for example. There is no UN authority over bank lending in US for sure, and probably not in Germany either.

Also, 5 to 6 mil Euros is not "huge amount" - I will bet at least a few guys attending Sharks and Artemis daily would have that much net worth personally. 99% of them will not do it however. Just because they have 5 mil does not mean they will "invest" it into a fuck club.

That strikes me. I was a bit too harsh in my prior argument with Mr. Phallus. A publicly traded stock is easier to purchase discreetly. And purchase in smaller amounts. Right now if I want to own a piece of Sharks, I have to hope that the current Sharks owner will want me as a partner next to him; that all the existing owners will accept me and take me in and give me a reasonably good deal; I also need to pony up a large amount (hundreds of thousands at least), and if I am married then my spouse is very likely to know about it. On the other hand if it is traded as a public stock, I can buy and sell shares when I want to and unless your spouse is checking your brokerage account frequently, she might never know about it, and even if she checked the brokerage statement she might not register in her mind that you bought shares in a fuck club if it shows up as another stock SHRK, next to the shares you have SHOP (Shopify), SHW (Sherwin Williams) and SHAK (Shake Shack). Easy to hide your Sharks ownership in the middle of a bunch of similar symbols haha. And you can buy stock worth 10 or 20 grand as opposed to spending $250 K to buy a few percent points stake in the club directly.

Investing into sex industry is one thing, but surviving it is another thing and beside the lucrative appearance of the industry. I think it is very hard industry to be stay afloat dealing with shady people you are forced to deal with due to the nature of the industry and also you have to deal with biggest mafia of all called government at all levels, law enforcement at all levels etc.

Let just say certain grey area people comes with this territory and normal guy from normal world won't be able to survive that I think? But some owners of FKK seems normal, but who knows behind the scene as it is one foot in shady world business and we mongers are the real money suppliers to this food chain or eco system of FKK business including pimping network LOL We are the demand, so they supply for us!

[Mr Ho]

Just have a look who are mostly owners of the clubs: HA for several of them, and other bikers owns Artemis. Why the manager of Oase is Italian, what is famous in Italy, and so on. It is a wrong approach by thinking profitability, capital, investment like in a regular business, may be you should think about washing machine)).

Artemis is owned by Kennan and his big brother, and if there is some other owner, it is most likely Turkish origin organization! But some say these guys are Kurdish, not Turkish! Well, who knows!

As for HA, Colloseum is also owned by HA! I did like some of HA pimped German girls, but only at the beginning when these girls begin because after few years they begin to get tattoo, plastic surgeries, too big tit job as HA like them to have; This is not my type!

[Pistons]

Italians make and sell pizza and pasta maybe?

[Pessimist]

Really? What happen to principle of responsible investment set by UN? I thought strip club and sex industry were taken out of portfolio?

Well it always is mystery how FKK owner put together millions of euro to open FKK especially Artemis costed I think it was 5 million or 6 million euro to construct, I think it was written in wikipedia or some article, it is huge amount to put together for individual, precisely two Turkish brothers! So I thought it is not bank, but some organization behind as these two brothers seems more or less legit!

"What happen to principle of responsible investment set by UN?" - Banks are regulated by their local regulators in their jurisdiction -- FDIC or OCC or the Fed in the US for example. There is no UN authority over bank lending in US for sure, and probably not in Germany either.

Also, 5 to 6 mil Euros is not "huge amount" - I will bet at least a few guys attending Sharks and Artemis daily would have that much net worth personally. 99% of them will not do it however. Just because they have 5 mil does not mean they will "invest" it into a fuck club.

That strikes me. I was a bit too harsh in my prior argument with Mr. Phallus. A publicly traded stock is easier to purchase discreetly. And purchase in smaller amounts. Right now if I want to own a piece of Sharks, I have to hope that the current Sharks owner will want me as a partner next to him; that all the existing owners will accept me and take me in and give me a reasonably good deal; I also need to pony up a large amount (hundreds of thousands at least), and if I am married then my spouse is very likely to know about it. On the other hand if it is traded as a public stock, I can buy and sell shares when I want to and unless your spouse is checking your brokerage account frequently, she might never know about it, and even if she checked the brokerage statement she might not register in her mind that you bought shares in a fuck club if it shows up as another stock SHRK, next to the shares you have SHOP (Shopify), SHW (Sherwin Williams) and SHAK (Shake Shack). Easy to hide your Sharks ownership in the middle of a bunch of similar symbols haha. And you can buy stock worth 10 or 20 grand as opposed to spending $250 K to buy a few percent points stake in the club directly.

[Gino02]

Really? What happen to principle of responsible investment set by UN? I thought strip club and sex industry were taken out of portfolio?

Well it always is mystery how FKK owner put together millions of euro to open FKK especially Artemis costed I think it was 5 million or 6 million euro to construct, I think it was written in wikipedia or some article, it is huge amount to put together for individual, precisely two Turkish brothers! So I thought it is not bank, but some organization behind as these two brothers seems more or less legit!

That UN principle is simply a guideline, without any real enforcement. Kinda like WHO (which is an arm of UN) guidelines on Coronavirus LOL. Who would report if a small local bank or an investment firm puts few millions to a legit business. Same like tech startups, only that less multiples of returns but greater chances of positive returns.

[Sirioja]

Just have a look who are mostly owners of the clubs: HA for several of them, and other bikers owns Artemis. Why the manager of Oase is Italian, what is famous in Italy, and so on. It is a wrong approach by thinking profitability, capital, investment like in a regular business, may be you should think about washing machine)).

I follow you on this. Hells own Finca, World, Mainhattan, not far from Sharks, I think also for Leipzig and Artemis. Italian for Oase. They don't need bank, yes washing machines. But I go only for girls. On last evening, Globe owner was very polite when I had diner, but I have nothing to say to him, just danke, on the other hand I wish I found Romanian charm I was looking for, really charming, when I m bored about the prettiest German at Globe, not Linda for me, after only 4 rooms, but she is losing charm.

[Mr Ho]

Very well said. People who worry about catching the disease, should better stay off FKK's in the first place.

I went early this year luckily, so I am planning to stay away till sometimes toward second half of year 2021 if this covid19 seems over!

Till then, I am at most obedient and cheapest FKK there is called FKK my right hand and pornhub or use my imagination when I was at FKK! Luckily, I copy pasted some of FKK girls facebook photos to jerk off to while they kept me on their facebook friend list LOL!

[Mr Ho]

How can you be so sure that no bank would lend money? It's a legal, regulated business in Germany. You / we might be surprised. Actually, I wouldn't be. Who knows? But I think like the main thing you say is that the main problem is no revenue no way to pay for certain costs that don't go away just because your doors are closed. And if there are outstanding loans, then no way to service that debt either. Things are already beyond "dicey" to severe. This has been going on for months!

Because of Principle of responsible investment set by UN, these industry has been taken out! Yeah, cost accumulate and it can be problematic for FKK owners who own few FKKs or mega FKK venue owners as bigger the venue, more staffs are needed etc and more money needed to maintain during closure!

Once it open safely we mongers will be the borderless brothel rescuer to support the sustainability of FKK eco system! We believe in sustainability of FKK!

[Mr Ho]

Actually, in Germany, Switzerland and Austria, banks and other investment businesses do give legit loans to open an FKK business if you can show a solid business plan. Similar to how strip clubs in USA get legit loans. Bigger challenge is to deal with local mafias depending on the area. In some cases, local mafias are also seed or angel investors in these legit sex businesses, which also helps them to use some laundry services.

Really? What happen to principle of responsible investment set by UN? I thought strip club and sex industry were taken out of portfolio?

Well it always is mystery how FKK owner put together millions of euro to open FKK especially Artemis costed I think it was 5 million or 6 million euro to construct, I think it was written in wikipedia or some article, it is huge amount to put together for individual, precisely two Turkish brothers! So I thought it is not bank, but some organization behind as these two brothers seems more or less legit!

[Mr Ho]

I usually visit FKKs in the summer but this year I changed and visited in January, February and March and I'm so glad I did.

Haha, whatta coincidence, me too, I went to FKK, but in Zurich during end of Jan. And early Feb. And yes me too, I am glad I did!

However, I must say summer is best time to visit FKK and I have so much never forget memory in many different FKK.

FKK sell you memories for life, not just sex!

And we will be back!

[Alessandro527]

Just have a look who are mostly owners of the clubs: HA for several of them, and other bikers owns Artemis. Why the manager of Oase is Italian, what is famous in Italy, and so on. It is a wrong approach by thinking profitability, capital, investment like in a regular business, may be you should think about washing machine)).

When I think about FKK owners my mind comes across Ozark the Netflix series.

BTW how many of us have got a receipt when we pay for entrance in cash?

Annually income in cash 4 mil.

Income in financial statements 1 mil.

[Turgid]

Right, but let face it, garden and German winters do not match, BUT! We mongers will go through anything for pussies of young beauties, so spending German winter in bathrobe outside in garden ain't a thing LOL!...............

I usually visit FKKs in the summer but this year I changed and visited in January, February and March and I'm so glad I did.

[Gobernador]

Right, but let face it, garden and German winters do not match, BUT! We mongers will go through anything for pussies of young beauties, so spending German winter in bathrobe outside in garden ain't a thing LOL!

I like palace the best in Frankfurt, but it may give me another reason to try out Oase once again as usually I am just stuck in palace for my line up preference reason!

Very well said. People who worry about catching the disease, should better stay off FKK's in the first place.

[HammerTime96]

Yes, it is plausible that banks are not the main lenders to these fuck clubs.

Merely plausible?

Come on guys, wake the fuck up: it's mostly criminal money that's being invested and laundered in these clubs. Why do you think the police does all those raids? They know where the money comes from but can't prove it, so they chose to harass them instead.

Next time you're in Germany, pay attention to all those slot machine and casino places in small sleepy provincial towns with an expensive Audi or BMW of the owner parked in front. Again, just like FKKs, it's a "cash only" business and ideal for laundering money.