German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[Chongmal]

I think this is multisided coin. Many girls take the initial stance of holding back. But if you are able to make chemistry happen, it is possible with many girls to get more than her standard routine. Unfortunately some girls are more routine oriented than others, so it gets fragmented. And some clubs have more groups of girls forcing more upselling and withholding of things they do for standard rate than other clubs. Partly due to the base rate being so stagnant for many years, and we are facing the downside of the girls doing this as a silent protest. Simillair to the french yellow vests. It is a pan profession working class thing in Europe.

Part of it may also be linked to the fine print in the July 2017 regulation. I'm sure most ladies aren't aware of all that is contained in the regulation but they have figured out some things and in some clubs it's become more of a movement. They also seem to be playing with the financial tolerance of the men. When men come from prostitution economies where the rate is €300-500 per hour they seem to be more likely to accept €200 per hour in a German club. This sucks for men like me who are used to local prices but it is happening. I don't mind if a lady withholds certain services as long as they are withheld upfront before I'm in the room. When it happens in the room it's like anti-Viagra.

I hope the WGs don't take it too far and start wearing yellow vests.

[Pistons]

I think this is multisided coin. Many girls take the initial stance of holding back. But if you are able to make chemistry happen, it is possible with many girls to get more than her standard routine. Unfortunately some girls are more routine oriented than others, so it gets fragmented. And some clubs have more groups of girls forcing more upselling and withholding of things they do for standard rate than other clubs. Partly due to the base rate being so stagnant for many years, and we are facing the downside of the girls doing this as a silent protest. Simillair to the french yellow vests. It is a pan profession working class thing in Europe.

[Polyamorist]

I would call it the Romanian or East European Culture, I have a blast with gorgeous Latina in Spain and did have a great session with Gabi in Oase.

Salaam ShooBree. I love Latinas too, but if they need help to get to Europe, they can also end up under the yoke of pimps. I came across a Brazilian (Goianian) girl in the Algarve, and a Colombian girl in Andalusia, and I was expecting really steamy sessions from both of them, but it turned out they were under control and turned down kissing and were generally a bit disappointing. By contrast the local Spanish girls were surprisingly hot, and I believe it is because they had no loverboys to tell them what to do. Also I met a great Cuban girl in Freiburg, and she was clearly independent and could really enjoy things and give her all. So the moral of the story is it's not about race or nationality but whether the girl is a true freelancer or not.

[ShooBree]

The problem happens when the pimps tell the girls things like, "Don't kiss the customers," or "I am your true boyfriend so you have to give second-class sex to everybody else. " This is when the culture becomes really unhealthy, and I see too much of it in Europe lately, so that is why I, and I think some other mongers, are giving up on Europe and turning to places like South America -- where there are also lots of pimps, but at least they aren't so hostile to the regular guys.

I think the FKKs offered an alternative to this unhealthy culture in Europe for a decade, but they have been invaded and undermined by it over the past few years.

I would call it the Romanian or East European Culture, I have a blast with gorgeous Latina in Spain and did have a great session with Gabi in Oase.

[Jmioffe]

Was with a WG recently who asked me out of the blue, "Are you an artist?

I thought it was odd, I gave her no indication that I was.

She told me she thought to ask it because we'd been having sex for awhile. Is this a thing?

I love these little international things I pick up. The last time this happened a girl at another FKK chided me, "geile sau. ".

[ExpatLover]

The problem happens when the pimps tell the girls things like, "Don't kiss the customers," or "I am your true boyfriend so you have to give second-class sex to everybody else. " This is when the culture becomes really unhealthy, and I see too much of it in Europe lately, so that is why I, and I think some other mongers, are giving up on Europe and turning to places like South America -- where there are also lots of pimps, but at least they aren't so hostile to the regular guys.

I think the FKKs offered an alternative to this unhealthy culture in Europe for a decade, but they have been invaded and undermined by it over the past few years.

But is it not healthy that the girls who are obliged to sell her body for any reason make differences between a customer and her BF even he is a pimp. With a prostitute you don t buy love you just buy sex, most of us are more frustrated after leaving the room than before. FKK, escorts. Were a big addiction for me for more than 10 years, since 2 years I drastically reduced my visits to club or escorts and I am also extremely selective, at the end of the end now my life is far better, I am saving a lot of cash and less sex means for me far better sex.

[Mr Ho]

The problem happens when the pimps tell the girls things like, "Don't kiss the customers," or "I am your true boyfriend so you have to give second-class sex to everybody else. " This is when the culture becomes really unhealthy, and I see too much of it in Europe lately, so that is why I, and I think some other mongers, are giving up on Europe and turning to places like South America -- where there are also lots of pimps, but at least they aren't so hostile to the regular guys.

I think the FKKs offered an alternative to this unhealthy culture in Europe for a decade, but they have been invaded and undermined by it over the past few years.

Yes, but I think it is more for business purposes, meaning they slice and cut each actions of sex as products to maximize their profitability.

Having said that, when they do this too much like they began doing recently, then some clients may just find alternative like Zurich because prices are becoming same if up sell get too extreme.

Either way, mongers got to do what we got to do and girls do have to make money, and I must say, so far, it has been partly mongers paranoia and service is OK after some negotiation. I have turn one hour session or longer session to 30 min 50 euro just bang hard cum session because some girls are asking too much just in their favor, but this is rare case and girls are still fair enough. Arguably LOL.

I want sex, I am willing to pay, girls just want money, that is why FKK is there for and that is why girls are in FKK to work, so both side of interest must be supported. If this is the case I am willing to pay up to some extent, which I called mild up selling.

However, some mongers seek for more than sex like some emotional feeling of some sort, this for the girls are most complicated clients and some of those clients has done some crazy things in FKK history like stalking, even murder few years ago. It is scary thing when some clients begin to make mistake about the purpose of FKK, it is sexual wonderland and not for relationship or emotional connections with girls who are working there.

In closing, I do know that there are some cases where some clients married FKK girls, so I guess it is each their own too, but I do think that there are pimps and loverboys who makes bases for the business model in FKK, so it is not just girls we are dealing with, but we also deal with pimps and loverboys indirectly.

When we dig deep, it is little bit funny to realize what kind of funny food chain we are involving in being mongers LOL!. Happy hunting!

[Polyamorist]

Yes, what I also realized is the platform for girls to come and work in German FKK because it is not so easy to just move to foreign land to work in brothel, so girls need little push or support from behind for her to go all the way to Germany to work in FKK. This is not healthy culture because those platforms are pimps or lover boys or related group of people, but we monger have to realize that we do benefit from these guys as much as we benefit them. Synergy effect.

The problem happens when the pimps tell the girls things like, "Don't kiss the customers," or "I am your true boyfriend so you have to give second-class sex to everybody else. " This is when the culture becomes really unhealthy, and I see too much of it in Europe lately, so that is why I, and I think some other mongers, are giving up on Europe and turning to places like South America -- where there are also lots of pimps, but at least they aren't so hostile to the regular guys.

I think the FKKs offered an alternative to this unhealthy culture in Europe for a decade, but they have been invaded and undermined by it over the past few years.

[ExpatLover]

That may be what ends up happening. However I'm not sure if the living standards in all of Eastern Europe has caught up yet to stop the inflow. Plenty of new girls still keep arriving from what I can see in places like Oase.

Ultimately it's not just economics but on the micro-level the life-choices of a small set of the females in the countries in question. Keep in mind that there are still plenty of GERMAN girls that do work in these clubs for fair rates and with good service levels. The fact that that has not dried up is telling.


Just earned my TWO STARS! HOORAH!

Sorry but in which club can you find plenty of German girls? I just know some German girls in Shark, new girls arriving in Oase are not new girls in the business they are usually coming from other clubs or from Spain, Ireland.

[Mr Ho]

That may be what ends up happening. However I'm not sure if the living standards in all of Eastern Europe has caught up yet to stop the inflow. Plenty of new girls still keep arriving from what I can see in places like Oase.

Ultimately it's not just economics but on the micro-level the life-choices of a small set of the females in the countries in question. Keep in mind that there are still plenty of GERMAN girls that do work in these clubs for fair rates and with good service levels. The fact that that has not dried up is telling.


Just earned my TWO STARS! HOORAH!

Yes, what I also realized is the platform for girls to come and work in German FKK because it is not so easy to just move to foreign land to work in brothel, so girls need little push or support from behind for her to go all the way to Germany to work in FKK. This is not healthy culture because those platforms are pimps or lover boys or related group of people, but we monger have to realize that we do benefit from these guys as much as we benefit them. Synergy effect.

German girls? Where? Let me know LOL! Ok, only kidding, I know there still are some German girls, but much less than before and less prettier, but I guess line up is cycle, some year we mongers get lucky, some year we are not so lucky.

Talking again about platforms as I mentioned above paragraph. During Greek financial crisis, I was hoping some Greek girls will come and work in FKK, but contrary to my hope and expectation, I did not really find greek girls in FKK during that period and after, I met only one greek girl in FKK that was beautiful enough for me to session with, so I guess platform is important for girls to come and work in FKK and such platform was not really there in the nation like Greece, but there is such platform in nation like Romania. Let us hope there will be more and more of those platforms and I will be waiting till Ukrainian girls to come to German FKK soon or later if they can join EU or some visa agreement with EU.

[Lanthano]

Jack of all trades are the essence of German FKK with heavy concentration on Romanians.

I would wish FKK will get more local German girls like it once used to, if not I hope Ukraine join EU or some other nations in eastern Europe will manage to join some kind of visa agreement to work in Germany.

That may be what ends up happening. However I'm not sure if the living standards in all of Eastern Europe has caught up yet to stop the inflow. Plenty of new girls still keep arriving from what I can see in places like Oase.

Ultimately it's not just economics but on the micro-level the life-choices of a small set of the females in the countries in question. Keep in mind that there are still plenty of GERMAN girls that do work in these clubs for fair rates and with good service levels. The fact that that has not dried up is telling.


Just earned my TWO STARS! HOORAH!

[ExpatLover]

I met half Saudi and half Filipino Eurasian in manila at KTV called queens castle. And as for half Persians, I find them back home sometimes because Japan and Iran has good relation and many Iranian people came to work in Japan mostly as construction workers and had babies. However, no matter where you go, Eurasians are hard to find, but if you dig deep, they are there and indeed, many of them are really good mix and turn out to be truly beautiful.

As for German FKK, as I wrote before, I met one half Vietnamese and German girl in Artemis, I think in winter 2015. This girl was real beauty and new in the industry that she did not know what she was doing in room, so I had liberty to do what I wanted in room. However, she was the only Eurasian I saw in German FKK that I thought is beautiful. I enjoy other good mix in German FKK sometimes like half German half middle eastern etc. These mixes are also very beautiful and exotic.

Eurasian means Europe and Asia not Saudi, Iran, mostly impossible to find a real Eurasian girl in a club may be in some VIP escort agencies.

[Mr Ho]

Interesting -- I agree mixed-race girls are beautiful. Where did you meet this half-Saudi and half-Filipino girl? In Germany? How about the half-Persian?

I met half Saudi and half Filipino Eurasian in manila at KTV called queens castle. And as for half Persians, I find them back home sometimes because Japan and Iran has good relation and many Iranian people came to work in Japan mostly as construction workers and had babies. However, no matter where you go, Eurasians are hard to find, but if you dig deep, they are there and indeed, many of them are really good mix and turn out to be truly beautiful.

As for German FKK, as I wrote before, I met one half Vietnamese and German girl in Artemis, I think in winter 2015. This girl was real beauty and new in the industry that she did not know what she was doing in room, so I had liberty to do what I wanted in room. However, she was the only Eurasian I saw in German FKK that I thought is beautiful. I enjoy other good mix in German FKK sometimes like half German half middle eastern etc. These mixes are also very beautiful and exotic.

[Sebastiane]

Interesting -- I agree mixed-race girls are beautiful. Where did you meet this half-Saudi and half-Filipino girl? In Germany? How about the half-Persian?

[Jooeey]

Planning to Visit the Frankfurt FKK's after a long time. My Last Visit was not too impressed with the Line-Up in Sharks. Didn't attempt to go to OASE because of the Negative Talk about it being Sharky than ever before. So currently which place has more beautiful faces and is less sharky? Oase or Sharks?