German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[Amriptna111]

Dear expereince mongers,

If possible could you guys share how you evaluate whether the girls will provide good service or not? Basically what is the heuristic that you use? What are the signs she will be a shark once you go to the room? It would definetly benefit other members especially newbies in the forum?

For me my heuristic are as follows (*be warned I am quite new and have been ripped off so this is kinda like a meta heuristic) but I just want to share:-

Indication of a shark:-

1) approach you in a duo and promise you the best lesbian show and what they can do but like all good things they charge you everything just that they don't tell you af first (P? S HOWEVER thre is an exception as Montana in oase did this to me at the first time and I basically put her in my black book but the second time I went for a session with her anyways and yeah it was good!)

2) promise me the world like you can do whatever you want in the room. Trust me all the girls have limitations and they won't do everything especially in palace.

3) those who hike then reduce prices. As an example first price 100 euro for 30 minutes to have kisses inccluded but then when you say no she drops it to 70 euro. Clear indication to me that she is going to tone down the service significantly.

4) I don't go for a girl that grabs at my cock immediately. This is rude as I don't grrab their boobs just like that.

Anyway if I made any mistake feel free to correct me and if you think that you should add please do. Many thanks!

[Big30]

Hi I was just playing with ya. I apologize if this offended you.

No problem! Case closed!

B30

[Hessen Bub]

Desperately looking for some real experience info on FKK Europa. Wondering how this place fares against likes of Oase, Artemis or World.

Thanks. One free beer for your input.

Been there about 7 years ago. Would not repeat. Small club, lousy line-up in quality and quantity. But. Things may have changed. On the other hand you do not see too many reports on German boards.

HB

[Amriptna111]

I will try to react very polite on this post and other posts of you. This is my reaction "You are a sick moron".

Hi I was just playing with ya. I apologize if this offended you.

No I have never done it but yeah on my first visit to fkk I did get ripped but other visit I would say was good. Anyway I have got a few girls that is scared that the condom would come off as I see them checking out the condom. I gues they have clients that keeps on having sex eventhough the condom feel of or broke.

[Big30]

Maybe we can do this if we get shitty service from them.

I will try to react very polite on this post and other posts of you. This is my reaction "You are a sick moron".

[Amriptna111]

Hey all,

Have you guys played tricks on the girls. As an example while fucking her doggy style suddenly we say "ops the condom broke honey" while inside her OR after cumming in her pussy and withdrawing it then we say "shit babe the condom broke in your pussy". I wonder what would the girls reaction be?

Maybe we can do this if we get shitty service from them.

[Calboy69]

Desperately looking for some real experience info on FKK Europa. Wondering how this place fares against likes of Oase, Artemis or World.

Thanks. One free beer for your input.

[HungryStud101]

Never been to the thermas, but some of the numbers and assertions here focus heavily on Hessen. An hour long session in Samya, GT, LR, PHG with anal is 125 euros (100 for half an hour). Then there are the clubs that charge 40 or 30 for each half an hour (Acapulco and Heaven7). In these clubs it is also a lot more common for girls to be booked for 5-6 hours at a time (probably at less than 75 an hour).

Good point. This is just back-of-the-envelope calculations to demonstrate that if you are the type of monger that asks for extras than the relative bargin of the FKK compared to the Termas starts to diminish. This is because some of these extras such as anal seem to be standard in the Rio Termas. If you purchase the "frills' in Oase or World, the FKK can turn out to be more expensive.

I would love to visit PHG and some of those other clubs and see what they are about. Thanks for the input

[Delbhoy]

Hi and welcome to the forum! I suggest you read the Berlin thread which provides lots of information. When will you be there? I will be there myself in about 3 weeks. I would strongly recommend the great guide to Berlins bordello and FKK scene by Angus Magee!

www.angusmagee.com

Hi Sucker17,

Sorry I won't be in berlin till mid June but I will sure read the Angus Magee blog thanks for your info.

Del

[Vitrea]

They will bother even if you have only a few grams for personal consumption. The fine you must pay in NRW is I thought 200E (can differ between the Bundesländer / States). In the Venlo region also cars are controlled but mostly with German license plates (if a German drives a car after having taken some soft drugs in NL that is already considered as a crime).

Drugs in clubs of course are forbidden, if you get caught your visit will be over.

Since May 1 as a foreigner you can not buy soft drugs anymore in the Southern part of Holland (Limburg / Noord Brabant / Zeeland).

"Coffee shops will become private clubs open only to residents of the Netherlands aged 18 and over."

Januari 2013 it will apply everywhere in Holland

Thank you all that responded to this lounge chat about soft drugs.

I have read about the changing laws as well but it was unclear to me if the "private clubs' would allow the residents to carry them out of the store or you have to use them on site. If you can carry them out, for obvious reasons, there will be a booming black market aimed at tourists. Regardless, the change seems regressive.

I agree with Free Dude. I have been to AMS many times and I know locals there and none of them smoke and they do not care one bit about these laws, one way or other. Actually, outside the major city centers it is even hard to find "coffeeshops", unless you are in the know. When I first visited Holland a decade ago, I expected to find them everywhere like liquor stores in the US. I was surprised.

[Free Dude]

About this last point, the restrictions on sale of weed / hash to non-NL residents in Amsterdam from 1st January 2013:

Is there any talk about changing / relaxing this restriction, esp in Amsterdam? I ask because:

A) If the coffeeshops become "no-go" zones for foreign tourists, won't there be a profound (I mean, extreme) negative economic effect right across the board in this "party town?" I refer to massive loss of revenue not only for the coffeeshops themselves, but for restaurants, bars, hotels, etc?

B) There will be a new, presumably more left-wing government in NL soon, so will the new government take a different stance on the "weed for foreignors" isssue? At least as far as Amsterdam goes?

Just curious if there is any discussion on these points.

Thanks,

O

A) Neither Amsterdam, nor the Netherlands has ever intended liberal drug and prostitution laws to be a 'tourist attraction'. If anything all these 'partiers' are seen as an adverse side effect of dealing with drugs and prostitutions in a 'pragmatic' fashion. I think they will feel Amsterdam has enough other things to offer. Not to mention the freed up resources / lower disturbance from tourists having bad trips (or in general being a nuisance). I'm not saying all tourists are like this, but some are; it's the price you pay for being considered a 'party city' and a reason not to pursue being one. Of course there will be small businesses (coffeshops, maybe hostels) that suffer, but I wouldn't think that will be seen as a reason not to take this measure.

B) You never know, but drug policy is sort of the last thing on politicians minds right now. This 'wietpas' innitiative has been set up some time ago, mostly because of the nuisance the coffeshops (or rather its Belgian, German and French customers) caused in the border areas. Appart from some coffeeshops owners (not the best represented industry) few dutch people will give a hoot.

Of course there will be all kind of set ups of dutch people buying stuff for tourists. Like I said below, I live pretty close to a coffeeshop, hardly ever smoke (it has been years I think) , but probably wouldn't mind buying someone a spliff if he'd ask me.

[Ortos]

Since May 1 as a foreigner you can not buy soft drugs anymore in the Southern part of Holland (Limburg / Noord Brabant / Zeeland).

"Coffee shops will become private clubs open only to residents of the Netherlands aged 18 and over."

Januari 2013 it will apply everywhere in Holland

About this last point, the restrictions on sale of weed / hash to non-NL residents in Amsterdam from 1st January 2013:

Is there any talk about changing / relaxing this restriction, esp in Amsterdam? I ask because:

A) If the coffeeshops become "no-go" zones for foreign tourists, won't there be a profound (I mean, extreme) negative economic effect right across the board in this "party town?" I refer to massive loss of revenue not only for the coffeeshops themselves, but for restaurants, bars, hotels, etc?

B) There will be a new, presumably more left-wing government in NL soon, so will the new government take a different stance on the "weed for foreignors" isssue? At least as far as Amsterdam goes?

Just curious if there is any discussion on these points.

Thanks,

O

[Big30]

That is interesting but make sense to check trains for people carrying stuff by bag loads. May be they won, t bother you if you have a couple for personal consumption.

They will bother even if you have only a few grams for personal consumption. The fine you must pay in NRW is I thought 200E (can differ between the Bundesländer / States). In the Venlo region also cars are controlled but mostly with German license plates (if a German drives a car after having taken some soft drugs in NL that is already considered as a crime).

Drugs in clubs of course are forbidden, if you get caught your visit will be over.

Since May 1 as a foreigner you can not buy soft drugs anymore in the Southern part of Holland (Limburg / Noord Brabant / Zeeland).

"Coffee shops will become private clubs open only to residents of the Netherlands aged 18 and over."

Januari 2013 it will apply everywhere in Holland

[Free Dude]

Never been to the thermas, but some of the numbers and assertions here focus heavily on Hessen. An hour long session in Samya, GT, LR, PHG with anal is 125 euros (100 for half an hour). Then there are the clubs that charge 40 or 30 for each half an hour (Acapulco and Heaven7). In these clubs it is also a lot more common for girls to be booked for 5-6 hours at a time (probably at less than 75 an hour).

[HungryStud101]

I agree with everything HungryStud101 says, although I would add two important things. In the Rio termas, just about every sexual encounter is a GFE. You don't have to worry about a girl not providing certain services, because DFK, DATY, BBBJ, and CFS are standard, and anal is quite common and does not incur an extra charge. In fact, charging extra for services is unheard of. Either the girl does certain things or she doesn't.

Good points. And I forgot, anal seems to be standard service in Brazil for some reason. So if you are an anal guy you will have no problem finding a Termas girl to provide this at no extra charge where as at an FKK it is 100Euro extra. So if you are an anal freak the costs become very similar. Ignoring the entrance fee the cost drinks at the Termas the cost would be as follows:

Termas L'umo. 250 R based on an exchange rate of 1. 8 R / 1 USD = 138 USD per session including anal. (Add extra for drinks but L'umo provided food last visit)

Oase / world .150Euro based on a 1. 42 USD / 1Euro = 213 USD per session including anal.

Wow! I have to check these numbers out but I believe this is close