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  1. #14257

    Complementary Beer.

    Other than GT and LR, which clubs have complementary beer during all hours the club is open.

  2. #14256
    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    One thing I noticed about LR is younger line up and also zero or very few limited tattoos and excellent service with no upsell. Line up has good looking girls, but not what I call stunner is the down side. It is good day shift club, so I go when I am flying out from duss in late afternoon.

    People often go to LR after GT due to discount, but for me I go to Oceans when GT fails me for line up quality. As upsell as Oceans is, line up has one or two stunner level beauty if lucky and so far never failed me as back up night shift club. It is a proof that it is always better when a city has several clubs because in Berlin, if Artemis fails me for line up. I am stuck in one place with nobody whom I really want to go to room with.
    When was your last visit at LR? German Sara was full tattooed, Ruby and Nelly have many. Reina and Georgi are not really kissing, many GND on my last visits, but better than Dolce Vita where I didn't see Amira or another one looks. LR is now usually empty on day and weekdays. On some times, I asked to LR desk for discount ticket to move to GT, 95 € for both. Not sure new girls are on same level than Daria or Jeni. Ro or Melissa. Bu, even brunette Anastasia is high skill for BJ and Eva is intense fire in bed, but lack of charm and elegance now there.

  3. #14255
    Quote Originally Posted by Akibono  [View Original Post]
    Four year old experience are just that. Stale and useless in a field where six months is an eternity.
    I agree for the exact lineup, but as for club cultures and club tendency, I may disagree.

    Like for instance, Artemis always has been more night time club with shift begin to slowly coming in at around 5:30 PM to 8 PM and around 8 PM is the peak of girls coming in for the night, also original tendency was that line up tend to be diverse with heavy concentration of pro girls who are bit older because Artemis requite you to work somewhere before joining the club, but you did tend to find few really young stunner level beauty between / underneath those pro tattooed up older girls, but these young beauties began fading out around 2014 ish and gone in 2015, since then it kept me out, food is crap in Artemis, massage is good and I do miss Haci who passed away after working in Artemis on the way home in train with heart attack RIP, and after the police raid, the management began losing control over girls so upsell got worst etc etc.

    So I think, club culture and tendency do not change, but line up may improve, which you cannot know because Artemis is in and out club, beside some older pro girls who has been there for years, Artemis has rapid exchange of girls especially during summer season to keep lineup numbers because it is big club, so line up cannot be precise unless it is reported on monthly basis, but again, what important is tendency of club culture and not exact line up because that is only known by calling reception even then she cannot tell you every single girls who are present there for next few days or so.

  4. #14254

    Frankfurt Again in July.

    Hi all,

    Great forum. Like a lot of you I have visited a few FKK in some recent trips to Germany. My brief reviews are as follows.

    Artemis Berlin. By far the nicest FKK I have visited. The talent present was amazing as was the food, choice of free beverages and different rooms. I really like how it was split level and the larger pool area downstairs. On my list its the only FKK I would recommend to friends to date.

    The Palace. Frankfurt. I visited the Palace as it was located nearby and visited in the evening. There were definitely some great looking women here as well. What stood out for me was how much the bar bill was at the end of the night and how present the cute cleaner girls were in their whites going in and out of every area. Very small club, from what I read on this board, not a favorite, but I honestly had a good time. Also the only club where I chatted with other guys just to shoot the shit which was fun.

    The Paradise. Stuttgart. Wow where to start, this club was just awful! Do not go here. The place was just full of smoke, bored, money hungry women who will pester you even in quiet areas. It was not a fun experience, just basically women wanting money. Food was scarce too. The only plus was a cigar room / tent with a TV to watch the news.

    What I was hoping to hear from you regulars or which the reviews are great is for a Sunday in early July at either Oase or Sharks. I hear Oase has a free shuttle and that Sharks is accessible as well from transit. I love young women into anal and plan to enjoy 5 sessions in my afternoon / evening romp. Any advice would be great. For me I prefer a large selection of women and decent atmosphere without pushy sales pitch from women.

    Thanks! Also anyone around July 7th?

  5. #14253
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    Not so sure ex Luana LR who moved to GT, becoming Florentina, is really natural blond, but natural masterpiece tits, milky skin and no big tattoos, at least she is natural beauty. Romanian. She moved to GT on 2018, like some of other LR girls, but Rose still at LR.
    One thing I noticed about LR is younger line up and also zero or very few limited tattoos and excellent service with no upsell. Line up has good looking girls, but not what I call stunner is the down side. It is good day shift club, so I go when I am flying out from duss in late afternoon.

    People often go to LR after GT due to discount, but for me I go to Oceans when GT fails me for line up quality. As upsell as Oceans is, line up has one or two stunner level beauty if lucky and so far never failed me as back up night shift club. It is a proof that it is always better when a city has several clubs because in Berlin, if Artemis fails me for line up. I am stuck in one place with nobody whom I really want to go to room with.

  6. #14252
    Quote Originally Posted by McAdonis  [View Original Post]
    Spending a third of their gross income on WGs? There are even more extreme examples than this. Someone who makes 50 grand a year can spend 80 grand per year on prostitutes. It can be done by liquidating all assets, (property, investments, inheritances, bank accounts) and then going on a 5-20 year spending spree.

    The monger who I heard about is a number cruncher and the frugal type. Prior to falling for his current FKK wife, he was exclusively a 50 EUR guy. From what I heard, he has flirted the idea with selling off everything and depleting the nest egg. Given his frugal lifestyle, he believes he can subsist on his state pension. I suspect he would even be willing move to a country with lower cost of living for retirement. I will not pass judgement. I do not know what men's life circumstances are. And I cannot argue with his primary point, which is he cannot take that money with him to the grave. And he has nobody to leave that money to.
    Yes of course. I was talking about what type of customers would be good for working girls. I did not say that a monger can only spend a third of his income on WGs. As you said, one can sell his house and kidneys to appease a girl. Those would be extremes but such men exist. The presence of such diversity is what makes humanity interesting.

    But the point I was making was this: a card company has s lot of information about potential applicants when they decide who to give a new card to; they know how much profit or loss they are likely to make for each income and FICO bracket based on past patterns. A WG would not have such visibility into the affairs and finances of her customers. But if by some stroke she did gain such visibility, she should be focusing on a some specific subsets who are likely to be the most profitable to her.

  7. #14251
    Quote Originally Posted by Menter  [View Original Post]
    I fucked Mio last week in Globe. She liked my 260 Euro instead of 100 Euro for an hour at GT. And she told me, that she is very happy with the Swiss guys at Globe.

    But you are right, she told me, that she also liked GT with the garden and with the friendly and generous Dutchmen (it's a big market at the border, there are some people, who underestimate that fact).

    And Amira (and Nelly) at LR, yes they make big money, because sometimes they have clients with 5-10 hour bookings.

    But in the end, good Girls must make more money in Globe than GT or LR or Sharks, because of the prices (despite the new discount fuck without kisses at Globe).

    (Maybe I don't know every tax regulation).
    I wrote GT is best business for girls in Germany, better than LR where I often saw Amira or Nelly not busy, better than Sharks where girls leaving, complain about everything for only 50 , clients and at night, but of course can t compete with Globe with 130/30 mn, 100 for CIM and 200 for anal, 4 times more than at GT. Guys in Zurich are even ready to pay 280 for 30 mn with a really average and not so fresh look at Aphrodisia, when can sometimes find fresh beauties for 50 or 100 in Germany. But on average, for looks and level in bed, Globe is the highest level I know for girls.

  8. #14250
    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    Maybe, she has classic beauty look. Supposed to be law student in Romania, she says. And yes, white skin and master piece natural tits, good right size big and all natural, I think she had zero tattoo. I took her and rose together because I kinda liked white skin natural blonde girl and tanned sportive fit body exotic Hungarian rose together sucking my dick. It was nice view under morning light as I kept the curtain open a bit.

    Never saw her in GT though.

    I had girl named not Florentina I think, but Fiorentina who worked in GT, she also worked in Artemis with name Coco. She supposed to be half Greek and Albanian from cologne. She was also real exotic beauty who looked like she is half Arab and half white and half Mexican and half white. Maybe Florentina and Fiorentina is different girl? In FKK, I never bother too much with their fake names especially they often move around in clubs to clubs.
    Not so sure ex Luana LR who moved to GT, becoming Florentina, is really natural blond, but natural masterpiece tits, milky skin and no big tattoos, at least she is natural beauty. Romanian. She moved to GT on 2018, like some of other LR girls, but Rose still at LR.

  9. #14249
    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    OK as for Artemis, it is fair enough. I stopped going there in 2015 and switch to Hessen, then I mixed land in Frankfurt, then move on to nrw region via ice train in one trip, doing FKK in both regions. I did so because stunners in line up of Artemis began to disappear from 2014 ish and 2015 visit made me, OK what am I doing here, then kept distance.

    However, I do have good knowledge of how Artemis works, I mean I went there rapidly from 2009 till 2015 spending around 10 k euro per trip just for girls including entrance. As for recent trend, this is something I do not know though what I am seeking to find out is if it went back to more or less how it was line up wise. Meaning, mostly plastic older monsters, but you do find few stunner level beautiful girls between those monster girls.

    Either way, I think keeping lounge and chat more liberal place is better for each one of us, if some post may not suit you, just skip it. Because administrations do filter many posts here and we do not need more self volunteer police or administrators I think..
    Four year old experience are just that. Stale and useless in a field where six months is an eternity.

  10. #14248
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    Maybe Luana now Florentina at GT, for your blond, white skin and masterpiece tits. Never heard of sisters at LR.
    Maybe, she has classic beauty look. Supposed to be law student in Romania, she says. And yes, white skin and master piece natural tits, good right size big and all natural, I think she had zero tattoo. I took her and rose together because I kinda liked white skin natural blonde girl and tanned sportive fit body exotic Hungarian rose together sucking my dick. It was nice view under morning light as I kept the curtain open a bit.

    Never saw her in GT though.

    I had girl named not Florentina I think, but Fiorentina who worked in GT, she also worked in Artemis with name Coco. She supposed to be half Greek and Albanian from cologne. She was also real exotic beauty who looked like she is half Arab and half white and half Mexican and half white. Maybe Florentina and Fiorentina is different girl? In FKK, I never bother too much with their fake names especially they often move around in clubs to clubs.

  11. #14247
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    I was not pointing fingers at you specifically but you actually proved the point of my post. Making comments on how great a place is when you haven't been there in 4 years imo is ludicrous. Met a guy who told me and McA how great Brazil is then we find out he hadn't been for 8 years. Met another guy who told me Dubrovnik was the best then we find out he last visited 20+ years ago! How relevant is that info to the current scene?

    The problem with posting information that is not current is that many guys who read these posts are not as knowledgeable as you are. They may only have a couple of days in Germany. If you post outdated information they may rely on your post to go to a specific club that used to be good but no longer is good.
    OK as for Artemis, it is fair enough. I stopped going there in 2015 and switch to Hessen, then I mixed land in Frankfurt, then move on to nrw region via ice train in one trip, doing FKK in both regions. I did so because stunners in line up of Artemis began to disappear from 2014 ish and 2015 visit made me, OK what am I doing here, then kept distance.

    However, I do have good knowledge of how Artemis works, I mean I went there rapidly from 2009 till 2015 spending around 10 k euro per trip just for girls including entrance. As for recent trend, this is something I do not know though what I am seeking to find out is if it went back to more or less how it was line up wise. Meaning, mostly plastic older monsters, but you do find few stunner level beautiful girls between those monster girls.

    Either way, I think keeping lounge and chat more liberal place is better for each one of us, if some post may not suit you, just skip it. Because administrations do filter many posts here and we do not need more self volunteer police or administrators I think.

    All in all, Artemis seems to catch up with line up recently by looking at recent report and I am glad I am going back this late summer to try it out once again. It was my first FKK I visited, so a lot of memories there. As for upsell, it seems it got stronger, but Artemis was always upsell club, it is just that after major police raid and false indictment of owner of Artemis, and with new law, management got more weak on grip over girls because I think management is bit scared and they do not want another such police raid again. After all, that police raid happened originating from one of the girl working there tipping information to police, which turned out to be mostly false accusation.

  12. #14246
    Quote Originally Posted by Pessimist  [View Original Post]
    The best customers for WGs are the men who make a hundred to 120 grand a year but spend 40 of that on prostitutes and clubs
    Spending a third of their gross income on WGs? There are even more extreme examples than this. Someone who makes 50 grand a year can spend 80 grand per year on prostitutes. It can be done by liquidating all assets, (property, investments, inheritances, bank accounts) and then going on a 5-20 year spending spree.

    The monger who I heard about is a number cruncher and the frugal type. Prior to falling for his current FKK wife, he was exclusively a 50 EUR guy. From what I heard, he has flirted the idea with selling off everything and depleting the nest egg. Given his frugal lifestyle, he believes he can subsist on his state pension. I suspect he would even be willing move to a country with lower cost of living for retirement. I will not pass judgement. I do not know what men's life circumstances are. And I cannot argue with his primary point, which is he cannot take that money with him to the grave. And he has nobody to leave that money to.

  13. #14245
    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    Exotic type girl, I like Rose. Very sportive body, she claim she works out and I believe her by looking at her body, small face, somehow bit oriental though she is 100% Hungarian, very structured face with big eye, long neck and all natural fit body and really good service.

    White type girl: I liked this blonde girl from Romania. I cannot recall her name, most of time, I do not bother to remember or sometimes even ask her name, but she is natural blonde, beautiful natural breast, quite big breast, shaped nice, she is white Romanian blonde, no tattoo, apparently law student and good service. Once I told Sirioja this before and he mentioned couple of names. Good service.

    Another white type girl: It was one of the sister, I think and they do not lookalike. She was Romanian who was introduced to by one of the poster here, I will not say his name for his privacy, but he is welcome to jump in if he read this post. She was also natural body, blonde, but I think this one is colored blonde. Good service.

    However, I do not think LR is stunner club optically, you do get lucky once in awhile, but it is not same level of stunner you find like in palace or Artemis in early 2010's. I think LR is more younger, natural girls, with limited or no tattoo and they provide good service for just 50 euro per 30 min, you go loner it even get much better. It is only club you will get DFK that easily in 50 euro 30 min session. I think LR serve me as this kinda club..
    Maybe Luana now Florentina at GT, for your blond, white skin and masterpiece tits. Never heard of sisters at LR.

  14. #14244
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    GT is just the best business for girls in Germany. A Hungarian from Sharks, real fire in bed, prefers GT business than everything for 50 at Sharks with night clients there, and she asked for pleasure in bed. A really bloody room with her, she screamed when she saw my Hanibal Lecter face. LR girls who are now at GT, seem happy about their new business, even those who said they didn't like GT when they were at LR, but money talk and change girls, only Amira preferred to stay at LR. Even German Mio touring at Globe, regret GT, but she can t work anymore because she doesn't want to register.
    I fucked Mio last week in Globe. She liked my 260 Euro instead of 100 Euro for an hour at GT. And she told me, that she is very happy with the Swiss guys at Globe.

    But you are right, she told me, that she also liked GT with the garden and with the friendly and generous Dutchmen (it's a big market at the border, there are some people, who underestimate that fact).

    And Amira (and Nelly) at LR, yes they make big money, because sometimes they have clients with 5-10 hour bookings.

    But in the end, good Girls must make more money in Globe than GT or LR or Sharks, because of the prices (despite the new discount fuck without kisses at Globe).

    (Maybe I don't know every tax regulation).

  15. #14243
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    I was not pointing fingers at you specifically but you actually proved the point of my post. Making comments on how great a place is when you haven't been there in 4 years imo is ludicrous. Met a guy who told me and McA how great Brazil is then we find out he hadn't been for 8 years. Met another guy who told me Dubrovnik was the best then we find out he last visited 20+ years ago! How relevant is that info to the current scene?

    The problem with posting information that is not current is that many guys who read these posts are not as knowledgeable as you are. They may only have a couple of days in Germany. If you post outdated information they may rely on your post to go to a specific club that used to be good but no longer is good.
    There is a lot of logic and truth in what you say but it is a bit tricky.

    Ideally, yes it is true that if members who make comments on specific girls and clubs would disclose some additional info such as when they last visited, how many times they have been with that girl or at that club etc, it would be immensely helpful. But that is something up to each member. This forum remains one where we all write on a voluntary basis, and it is probably better to write too much than to write too little. A forum where rules are so strict and one has to put boilerplate legalese around fun reports and expresses views may lead to reduced participation and we all agree that's not a good outcome.

    There is a strong dose of caveat emptor in these scenarios. Any experienced and sensible monger would read multiple reports, do a lot of research and also keep in mind that there is a degree of uncertainty and randomness in his choice. No one report can guarantee anything - - not even multiple recent and well informed reports can. His taste may well be different from that of the writers whose advice he followed, for example.

    If the monger is a newbie and did not do enough research and followed a single report that happened to be outdated and has a bad experience, I say tough luck but that is also a valuable lesson and a good thing. He would learn the value of proper due diligence and would be careful in the future.

    Optimist wrote a report 3 days ago about Sharks. He went earlier in the day and immediately several members pulled him up that he went at a bad time and was misleading. My point, even if the report is so real time and came from a well traveled monger as him, there is still context around each report. Any experienced man would know this when following anonymous advice and recommendations on internet. Or he should. This is true for mongering tips and anything else on internet.

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