German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[Escape Artist]

Anybody here ever get a 100% pay raise for doing the same job at the same place? I didn't think so! A price of 100/30 is bullshit, and doesn't have a damn thing to do with inflation! No, it has everything to do with greedy tutes taking advantage of the condom law. That's what it has to do with. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. How many jobs do we know of where one can earn 50 euros for a half hour of work? These tutes were already being paid top money. Apparently some believe that prostitutes, like colleges and colleges universities, ought to get away with jacking their prices up far above anything that looks like the rate of inflation. Like with the higher education industry, at least in the United States anyway, they know that pussy is something that's got to be had. Got to get an education to get ahead and got to get some pussy to get laid!

The demand is there. And so they (the prostitutes) get away with charging outrageous sums of money without offering anything more, and sometimes even less. There's always a sucker who will pay it too, and even stand and argue on the side of the tutes. When I too get a 100% raise on the half hour to match theirs then we got a deal! Until then, look for ways to bargain for lower, more reasonable fees. Or just abstain and take your business elsewhere. Reading all of the recent reports, the action in Germany is sounding pretty pathetic right now. Given the proximity to the end of the pandemic crisis (I hope), I'm not surprised. I said from the start that we probably needed another year for the clubs to recover. It will be interesting to see how it goes for Mr. Ho during his upcoming trip. Mr. Ho please advise soonest.

Here here! At the end of the day, it was a 100% price hike. That's completely unacceptable.

When someone reasons with "well in Spain, 100 e is the going rate," well hell, that's Spain man. No one in Thailand was saying, "well in America, it's $300 dollars so we should charge $300". Applying that logic to Germany is equally ludicrous to me. If you want to justify Spain prices in Germany, just go to Spain. The food and weather is better there anyway. Why would you want to bring that to German paradise? Such arguments is just justifying getting ripped off in a local economy due to lack of self restraint.

[Mr Ho]

Anybody here ever get a 100% pay raise for doing the same job at the same place? I didn't think so! A price of 100/30 is bullshit, and doesn't have a damn thing to do with inflation! No, it has everything to do with greedy tutes taking advantage of the condom law. That's what it has to do with. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. How many jobs do we know of where one can earn 50 euros for a half hour of work? These tutes were already being paid top money. Apparently some believe that prostitutes, like colleges and colleges universities, ought to get away with jacking their prices up far above anything that looks like the rate of inflation. Like with the higher education industry, at least in the United States anyway, they know that pussy is something that's got to be had. Got to get an education to get ahead and got to get some pussy to get laid!

The demand is there. And so they (the prostitutes) get away with charging outrageous sums of money without offering anything more, and sometimes even less. There's always a sucker who will pay it too, and even stand and argue on the side of the tutes. When I too get a 100% raise on the half hour to match theirs then we got a deal! Until then, look for ways to bargain for lower, more reasonable fees. Or just abstain and take your business elsewhere. Reading all of the recent reports, the action in Germany is sounding pretty pathetic right now. Given the proximity to the end of the pandemic crisis (I hope), I'm not surprised. I said from the start that we probably needed another year for the clubs to recover. It will be interesting to see how it goes for Mr. Ho during his upcoming trip. Mr. Ho please advise soonest.

I agree for the reason for the price rise of the session!

As for the price justification, I am quite happy with the current rate as long as it stays that way and no more rise as 100 euro 30 min with the service being there can be justified, but more than that, it is getting ridiculous! If they raise prices more, I will switch to Escort in Germany which I presume will provide BBBJ considering higher pricing at escort?

I never had the occasion of girls trying to buy them drinks or trying to sell me crazy rates like 200 euro per hour etc that I read in forum before, girls in FKK has been reasonable and nice with my experience so far! Only 1 bad session that actually is ok and another one bad session that there was no session as that one was my fault for not looking at her face close enough under good light, so I cancelled as we walked into a room and offered to pay 50 euro which she took with Romanian curse LOL!

[DrPoon]

There is a difference between an African American neighborhood and a gang neighborhood. It might be hard to destinquish for everybody. It would be quite dumb to go a gang for a prostitutes unless they were operating outside their turf hiding it in a hotel. I have no idea why you have so much experience with gangs. I always thought gangs were rather silly. It is usually teenage kids throwing hand signs wearing their pants below their butt cracks. I don't know why someone would think they want to do business with 15 year olds pimping out a 40 year old drug addict that owes them money. She is going to give you the worse service of your life. There are not zones you go to for prostitutes in the USA that are in anyway acceptable. Gangs are really kinda ridiculous. You can't have a discussion with them much less do business with them.

I know all about gangs due to living in gang areas which is most of the USA is infested with gangs due to the housing crisis and people unable to afford a safe place to live.

On the contrary most gangs are pimping out younger women and the 40 year old women would not even be sold drugs unless they pay first. Thus gangs can be a good source of providers if the gang is operated in a businesslike manner and recuits new young girls.

[Mr Ho]

Just a random thought but what you all perceive as high quality weed is probably due to advances in lighting technology or maybe cheap knock offs of lighting technology. So maybe you can give the credit to China for the cheap knock offs. I'm not sure who gets credit for the original technologies. It could be Japan.

Yes, I prefer indoor weed by fat as well! China can produce cheap, but as for now, they lack quality and they cannot produce quality product like Japan can do, but we are having problem China copying all our products illegally and there is no functioning law in China, so there is not much result in suing!

We are responsible for many inventions, but for indoor lighting I do not know as it is special field that I do not inform myself about, but yeah, it is possible it is us as we focus more on top end quality technology that only we can make as that is our strength and survival strategy for 21st century as it is getting more and more competitive! When I think about LED lighting, a lot of technologies are us and Panasonic is the high end brand for LED lighting!

I should inform myself more about indoor farming because we are what we eat right? But we overlook its blessing the farming industry providing us I think, but one thing for sure is that we are all grateful for other important supply of sex with young stunner beauties provided by FKK industry which is bit like indoor farming of stunner young girls to give us organic sex and in some FKK, we got indoor and outdoor options for sex just like weed LOL!

I must add, I never tried Vaporizer weed yet! I would love to one fine day, but weed is tolerated in most nations in EU and not legalized, so hard to find Vape type weed from my West African business associates in the parks in Germany etc LOL!

[BobNSuzy]

Back in my teen years like bit more than two decades ago now LOL I used to smoke good dope in Zurich as it was legal for few years back then, so I used to get real top of the range staff at the coffee shop like pharmacy there where they sell weed in showcases all legally LOL! I roll it, then smoke it looking at beautiful swiss nature, then off to escort or brothels (No globe back then), oh holly molly LOL! Those sexual experiences high out of mind with full sensation was to this day among the best sexual stimulation experiences I had in my life LOL!

I do that without weed now, but once it is legalize again, I will do the same! I used to buy weed from African herbal business men in the Parks in Berlin or took train to Venlo to buy weed and have amazing sex in FKK, but now I do it without weed and it is fine by me!

Sex on drug is something monger should experience as it does raise sensation to maximum level! It is science backed! Just some are legal and some are not, also depending on which nation you do it as well! Funny how it works!

Legalizing LSD and MDMA for medical use was hot topic during Davos economic forum, so legalizing many harmless drugs can be seen in let say 20 years time! I mean look at Thailand where it was famous for harsh punishment for weed is now moving to legalization of weed! So never say never!

Meanwhile, my biggest drug and drive is fucking beautiful girls around the world! Nothing ever will beat that! Never!

Just a random thought but what you all perceive as high quality weed is probably due to advances in lighting technology or maybe cheap knock offs of lighting technology. So maybe you can give the credit to China for the cheap knock offs. I'm not sure who gets credit for the original technologies. It could be Japan.

[The Cane]

The USA in reality cannot be described as having puritanical morality. That is the image it wants to project. On the contrary the US is the most immoral country on earth. Unfortunately, there is a very high rate of sexual deviance and perversions especially among those who preach moral virtue.

Tell it like it is! That used to be a "saying" LOL!

[Turgid]

...... Contrast that with USA and its puritanical morality....

The USA in reality cannot be described as having puritanical morality. That is the image it wants to project. On the contrary the US is the most immoral country on earth. Unfortunately, there is a very high rate of sexual deviance and perversions especially among those who preach moral virtue.

[The Cane]

I see a lot of guys posting on all the FKK club pages about the rates going up to 100/30. Can you guys that are bitching about this get a reality check? The standard rate across most clubs was 50/30 for many years so it had to go up some time, what did you expect, 50 plus inflation so maybe 65/30? How many of you guys bitching have not had an annual pay rise or increase outside of that? Exactly. Yes, Siri, I know some clubs are 60/30 still or whatever, I am just generalizing on the rate.

Anybody here ever get a 100% pay raise for doing the same job at the same place? I didn't think so! A price of 100/30 is bullshit, and doesn't have a damn thing to do with inflation! No, it has everything to do with greedy tutes taking advantage of the condom law. That's what it has to do with. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. How many jobs do we know of where one can earn 50 euros for a half hour of work? These tutes were already being paid top money. Apparently some believe that prostitutes, like colleges and colleges universities, ought to get away with jacking their prices up far above anything that looks like the rate of inflation. Like with the higher education industry, at least in the United States anyway, they know that pussy is something that's got to be had. Got to get an education to get ahead and got to get some pussy to get laid!

The demand is there. And so they (the prostitutes) get away with charging outrageous sums of money without offering anything more, and sometimes even less. There's always a sucker who will pay it too, and even stand and argue on the side of the tutes. When I too get a 100% raise on the half hour to match theirs then we got a deal! Until then, look for ways to bargain for lower, more reasonable fees. Or just abstain and take your business elsewhere. Reading all of the recent reports, the action in Germany is sounding pretty pathetic right now. Given the proximity to the end of the pandemic crisis (I hope), I'm not surprised. I said from the start that we probably needed another year for the clubs to recover. It will be interesting to see how it goes for Mr. Ho during his upcoming trip. Mr. Ho please advise soonest.

[Sirioja]

Sure prices held steady for 20 years and during that time quality has gone downhill, I'd be happy to pay 75 today if the quality remained but it has not! I'm not going to repeat what has already been posted by others as to the reasons why.

Yes, Russians disappeared, not allowed to work in Germany since 2018. Now 90% Romanians and few Germans or Hungarians, I don't run for Bulgarians, but can still find high quality for around 50/30 if you are able to find out of clubs which are made falling by tourists. For sure, not in RTC with bad teeth. For me, on this year, for freshness, Germany is higher level than Switzerland even I found a wow virgin look Swiss and a real full natural Romanian beauty. Germany is better for me on this year than on 2013, paying 80/60 or 200/120.

[Abox79]

Don't see many people complaining about a 60 to 65 per 30 rate. 100 per 30 however is double the previous rate. That's a ridiculous price hike and seems like a worthy gripe.

I agree. It is a hefty rise, but as has been commented since it was 50/30 for 20 or so years. In most western European countries you'd find it practically impossible to find brothels with as many girls of similar quality for 100/30. It has been commented that the quality is not what it once was, that's a subjective matter and very much a personal opinion. But there's no disputing that 100/30 is still good value if the service is acceptable.

[Downandup]

I see a lot of guys posting on all the FKK club pages about the rates going up to 100/30. Can you guys that are bitching about this get a reality check? The standard rate across most clubs was 50/30 for many years so it had to go up some time, what did you expect, 50 plus inflation so maybe 65/30? How many of you guys bitching have not had an annual pay rise or increase outside of that? Exactly. Yes, Siri, I know some clubs are 60/30 still or whatever, I am just generalizing on the rate.

Sure prices held steady for 20 years and during that time quality has gone downhill, I'd be happy to pay €75 today if the quality remained but it has not! I'm not going to repeat what has already been posted by others as to the reasons why.

[The Cane]

Legalizing our hobby made Germany a tourism destination and brought untold sexual pleasure to men at a competitive price with safe venues without shame. Who said the State has no role in a market economy? Contrast that with USA and its puritanical morality, police stings trashing liberty, etc. So much for "can do" and exceptionalism. And about the highest incarceration rate per capita. Dysfunctional comes to mind, but the petro dollar cures many sins you see.

Here we go with the America bashing again. No, we're not perfect, and neither is Germany. Even if it does have FKKs! Let us not forget Germany's full history shall we? And how it arrived at its current relative liberalism (see there folks "liberal" isn't always a bad word). Recall that place called Nazi Germany, one of the greatest threats to mankind and freedom the world has ever known, and that America helped to defeat. Recall one of the greatest atrocities perpetrated by any nation known as the Holocaust that Germany is guilty of, and that America helped to end. It took that evil regime being literally reduced to rubble, then rebuilt under the auspices of the American-led Marshall Plan in order for that nation to move in a different, more enlightened direction while building one of the world's top economies (number 3 for a long time). And eventually bringing us the FKK clubs yes! So, let us remember that after America helped to beat Germany down, she then helped to build the Fatherland up again into something better (that was exceptional in and of itself). We're talking a place that eventually brought us those wonderful FKKs we love so much.

American perfection hell no! No nation has ever achieved that, and no nation ever will.

[Mr Ho]

Legalizing our hobby made Germany a tourism destination and brought untold sexual pleasure to men at a competitive price with safe venues without shame. Who said the State has no role in a market economy? Contrast that with USA and its puritanical morality, police stings trashing liberty, etc. So much for "can do" and exceptionalism. And about the highest incarceration rate per capita. Dysfunctional comes to mind, but the petro dollar cures many sins you see.

It sound like Brazil and also German speaking part of Europe is best for brothel in the whole world! Why German speaking part tend to have liberal stance on brothel is yet mystery to me, but somehow they are liberal than they usually are when it comes to prostitution as German for example is bunch of very serious people, but highly liberal on certain area like sex than other nations!

[Sirioja]

Puerto Ricans are American citizens. They live in a territory of the USA and can go back and forth and live in any part of the USA but they can only vote in federal elections if they live in the 50 states or District of Columbia.

Also why did they forbid you to drive since one can drive with a French drivers license in the USA and in fact many people drive without a license in sanctuary cities which Miami has now become.

Puerto Rican women were prettier than mostly fatties, white and black, seen in Miami, Keys and Bahamas. As I was told Puerto Ricans were in downtown, but 2 police cars stopped me on first red light entering downtown, telling: Go away, you are in danger here, when many guys were looking. It was in 1996. I also remember a car full of weapons in back. No problem in Vegas downtown on 2008, nor in San Francisco, nor Phoenix. No problem in Salt Lake of course. No problem in Moscow nor Saint Petersburg I visited also at night.

[Mr Ho]

Legalizing our hobby made Germany a tourism destination and brought untold sexual pleasure to men at a competitive price with safe venues without shame. Who said the State has no role in a market economy? Contrast that with USA and its puritanical morality, police stings trashing liberty, etc. So much for "can do" and exceptionalism. And about the highest incarceration rate per capita. Dysfunctional comes to mind, but the petro dollar cures many sins you see.

Somehow, we mongers are minority though, most guys just jerk off front of screen and occasionally they go for somehow more expensive, but very ugly old prostitute on the street or their shitty dirty local brothels! Most guys have blocked mind and they do not even do any deep research about it to embetter their sex life!