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[Mr Ho]

I still feel the Yale lecturer argues better than anyone else I have heard, so I will stick to his views. The main point with sex is to bring our genes onwards. And that is how he argues. When it comes to prostitution, one can argue that bringing genes onwards is not the main reason. Just like that Australian escort wrote in her book. It is about men seeking passion. And I might add based on the Yale lecturer, in a violent world. Not many FKK goers fight among themselves, most if not all are in a great mood because of the availability on offer. And it talks to our instincts on being able to spread our genes in every direction. Only a bit in here when we troll each others about the passionate side of this, it can heat up. Which is a bit funny, but really shouldn't be taken serious. After all, a large number of these girls in FKK's are so great that any of us would love to be dating them for real, and that opens up for a lot of drama and can mess with our heads sometimes. Its an intriguing game which is hard to win over. Like the German at sharks or Oase who had spent too much on escorts and threw stink bombs around the place. He had been addicted by his instincts. That is the danger I suppose. Because it is not in conformity with societal rules and beliefs systems outside the FKK. Except for 2-3 tribes in the Angola / Namibia border region at least. Some of which have feminists in rage at. But somehow are remarkably peaceful societies. HIV is being used as the main excuse to have them stop with their practices. So far they won't comply.

I think most girls working at FKK do not even know what Yale University is LOL They will know Chanel, Hermes and Cartier, but they will not know Yale, Stanford, or even Harvard LOL.

Yes some 1 % of FKK girls are real smart, but most are really ignorant and only education they ever had was via pimp, loverboys and in FKK LOL.

I have to say FKK university degree can be hard negotiator and longer they studied in FKK, more harder they get in room LOL I like the first month new girls, they are soft as tofu LOL.

[Pistons]

The lower happiness rating among prostitutes in Switzerland might be related to crazy rules such as at Globe where the girls must stand unless some guy is talking to her.

[UltraHappy]

It's their dream income, not their dream job. Young women rarely dream about having sex with old guys.

Different studies report different results, but here's one article that suggests that most prostitutes in a regulated environment enjoy their job: https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-10083175.html.

A different Swiss study showed that 40% of prostitutes surveyed in Switzerland enjoyed their job. That's a far higher percentage than most office workers stuck in a dead-end job.

In the end, the question should not be, "Do prostitutes enjoy their job?" but rather, "How do prostitute job satisfaction rates compare to other occupations," because face it, extremely few of us would continue to do our jobs year after year if we suddenly won the big lottery and didn't need to work for a paycheck anymore.

[XXL]

It's their dream income, not their dream job. Young women rarely dream about having sex with old guys.

Sounds just like my job. Young men rarely dream about taking orders from old line managers.

[Samplerr]

I mean, if FKKing were the dream job for 10% of women, the numbers could go up 20 times.

It's their dream income, not their dream job. Young women rarely dream about having sex with old guys.

[Pistons]

But the biggest problem right now I think is that so many women are being pulled into the profession on the basis of whether they can make some middleman money rather than whether they actually have talent for the job. Imagine the same low hiring standards were applied in some other job that requires just as much sensitivity -- like violin-playing. Listeners would soon get jaded and say that women are not violin-players "innately". But they are- you just need to get the right ones!

Indeed, and it probably boils down to oxytocin in the brain:

https://www.ambiancematchmaking.com/...ath-do-us-part

[Pistons]

The problem as I see with those tribes in Namibia is that it is only the men who chooses the females and when to switch partners. It only makes sense if it goes both ways. Like one week each or something. Swingers deluxe, LOL. So perhaps that is also what the feminists are getting at.

[Pistons]

Pistons,

The evidence and evolution do not support your beliefs. If feminists are absolute losers, their genes would die out. The fact that they exist means there are other reasons why they are desired. Perhaps, they are good mothers who provide well for the their offspring? They may not have as many children, but more of them survive into adulthood because they are take care of.

Neurosynth: you may want to watch the lecture to see the relevancy to why I mentioned the violent nature of great apes. That is not to say violence is a good thing. But it explains a few things when we were living in a more brutal society thousands of years ago. And some instincts prevail. And it is not the male on female violence. But more the male on male violence and the female on male violence. Some of this violence which may also lead to wars and conflicts. And in some of these wars, history tells stories of are a pe. Genghis Kahn being a prime example. To understand the world, one might need to dig deep in order to see how things started. If the woman could fight back, she might have survived long enough so that Genghis Kahn or his men didn't just kill her instantly like they killed the men of the peoples they conquered. And Genghis Kahn might have deemed it more useful to spend war rations on keeping the fighting female energetic female alive as opposed to a non violent protective female. In todays society things may shift, but sexual instincts in choosing partners takes longer to shift than other things. And the thesis he brings about is pretty much that many men seeks out these more energetic (somewhat violent) females out of pure instinct. Because some of that violence may also have been directed towards protecting ones own offspring long time in the past against an invading army. Someone who likes it rough and have the genes for it by nature in order to survive. His story about how gorillas do it would also be relevant here (in the first lecture). It is not my hypothesis, but it does make some sense.

Akibono: An interesting idea. But many of the FKK girls are mothers themselves and many work mainly to support their child (ren). Probably some of these don't enjoy the promiscuous nature of clients 'when in the FKK's' since many tell stories of men who has left them, or that they left their husband since he was useless (in raising the child I assume). At least as long as they see any type of sex as being cheating, they can find some customers propulsive, and in that sense you can have feminist girls working in FKK's. Although there is the argument that as long as we pay, it is not cheating. Not everyone agree on that. I don't know personally. People are too serious about it on both sides of the coin. But I think also most FKK customers ironically would be some of the least cheating males when not paying for it. But back to your point, you are probably right from the point after they have given birth. But the lecturer in anthropology talks more about what happens before birth. Or rather what happened when we were less civillized. It is after all about our old instinctive nature that creeps up on us and as the claim is, its hardwired in us.

I still feel the Yale lecturer argues better than anyone else I have heard, so I will stick to his views. The main point with sex is to bring our genes onwards. And that is how he argues. When it comes to prostitution, one can argue that bringing genes onwards is not the main reason. Just like that Australian escort wrote in her book. It is about men seeking passion. And I might add based on the Yale lecturer, in a violent world. Not many FKK goers fight among themselves, most if not all are in a great mood because of the availability on offer. And it talks to our instincts on being able to spread our genes in every direction. Only a bit in here when we troll each others about the passionate side of this, it can heat up. Which is a bit funny, but really shouldn't be taken serious. After all, a large number of these girls in FKK's are so great that any of us would love to be dating them for real, and that opens up for a lot of drama and can mess with our heads sometimes. Its an intriguing game which is hard to win over. Like the German at sharks or Oase who had spent too much on escorts and threw stink bombs around the place. He had been addicted by his instincts. That is the danger I suppose. Because it is not in conformity with societal rules and beliefs systems outside the FKK. Except for 2-3 tribes in the Angola / Namibia border region at least. Some of which have feminists in rage at. But somehow are remarkably peaceful societies. HIV is being used as the main excuse to have them stop with their practices. So far they won't comply.

[Polyamorist]

What women are innately repulsed by isn't taking money for sex. It's having sex with large numbers of anonymous men whether they pay or not.

Tawak-kalto-al-allah! (That's Arabic for say-it-ain't-so-guacamole-Joe.).

Obviously there are exceptions.

Lucky for us there are so many. Ever been to Carnaval? Ever been on a college campus where there are girls who want to do every jock on the team?

People differ. Women differ. Some will always be monogamous. But I think at least 10% of women want to have sex with lots of guys even if there's no money involved. It's just difficult to know the real percentage with all the stigmatization that goes on. We would have to ask some species that share 99% of our DNA and 0% of our cultural conditioning:

http://www.slate.com/articles/health..._partners.html

"The genetic benefits that came from seeking extra-pair matings while maintaining the support of an existing partner meant that evolution could favor females who choose to cheat."

"Darwin was forced to admit in The Descent of Man, 'It seems certain that the habit of marriage has been gradually developed, and that almost promiscuous intercourse was once extremely common throughout the world.' "

What about this bottleneck business?

There is certainly no end to the men willing to help them be promiscuous. The bottleneck, so to speak, is the women not the men.

Supposing still there are only 10% of women who are very promiscuous by nature. How is that a bottleneck? Earlier it was said that less than 1% of women were in our favorite profession.

:All we need is 0.25-0.50 percent of willing females. And that would still be plenty supply. Because not all men are interested in mongering.

Not enough supply for me, I can handle 2-3% of Ukrainian models before breakfast! But if we imagine all taboos lifted 50 years from now, that would certainly lubricate the bottleneck right? I mean, if FKKing were the dream job for 10% of women, the numbers could go up 20 times. I am just imagining FKKtopia here. It would mean no sexy girl had to work more than a 16-hour week, so no getting "fucked out". And the guys wouldn't have to be so "anonymous" as under the current system with all its backward fears.

But the biggest problem right now I think is that so many women are being pulled into the profession on the basis of whether they can make some middleman money rather than whether they actually have talent for the job. Imagine the same low hiring standards were applied in some other job that requires just as much sensitivity -- like violin-playing. Listeners would soon get jaded and say that women are not violin-players "innately". But they are- you just need to get the right ones!

[Akibono]

Pistons,

The evidence and evolution do not support your beliefs. If feminists are absolute losers, their genes would die out. The fact that they exist means there are other reasons why they are desired. Perhaps, they are good mothers who provide well for the their offspring? They may not have as many children, but more of them survive into adulthood because they are take care of.

[Mr Ho]

And it also shows that the non-prostitute females, and especially the feminists are the absolute losers genetically. So guys, if you want to reproduce, the best way is to find the biggest **** ever. Her genes are simply evolutionary far superior!

Well I appreciate and love stunner level beauty prostitutes, they played big part in my dreams come true. Without them I would not have fucked most skin colors stunners from all different cultures with blue eyes, green eyes, grey eyes, blonde, brunette etc etc that I fucked.

They will always play big roll in my book of memories.

[Neurosynth]

Pistons, I don't think you are addressing my point. (And I don't think all this ra pe talk helps.).

What women are innately repulsed by isn't taking money for sex. It's having sex with large numbers of anonymous men whether they pay or not.

Obviously there are exceptions. But for the most part men want to have large numbers of partners, and women want to avoid having large numbers of partners. This is directly linked their innate behavior developing in a way to optimize the propagation of the individual's genes, and the way pregnancy and child-raising result in men and women having nearly opposite gene-survival strategies.

[Pistons]

And it also shows that the non-prostitute females, and especially the feminists are the absolute losers genetically. So guys, if you want to reproduce, the best way is to find the biggest **** ever. Her genes are simply evolutionary far superior!

[Pistons]

I just rewatched that first episode again. Seems I mixed up male / female violence with are ape in one occation.

But interestingly in regards to prostitution, he pretty much says that the women who enjoys male / female violence the most (rough sex can be part of this), are the most likely to reproduce. So the more slutty and wild the female is, or the better her service is, the more superior is her genes in an evolutionary way. By this we can also conclude that we as men help in this manner by giving our money to the best service providers and wildest women who does scream 'fuck me harder' the most. While the non sexual prostitutes are the losers in this game of survival.

[Pistons]

I like the topic about the anthropological side of it Neurosynth, but as far as I understood it, in the animal world all females in any race trade sex for resources. Some females (insects in particular) also devour their male partners for the sake of the children. So I agree with most of your comment. The part where you say women prefer to know the partners and men don't to some extent. This is probably true. But how far it is hardwired for women not take payment for sex doesn't seem to me like it is hardwired into some animal or human nature. That seems sociologically indoctrinated to be a result of human belief systems. And the reason women may be against prostitution may just as well be because women needs to rearrange their strategies in order to comply with societal norms and rules. Some women even have are ape fantasies / fetishes believe it or not. They might like it rough. If you ever heard a woman tell you 'fuck me faster', this might be where it is coming from. Like if they are hardwired into enjoying are ape. But for their pussies to lubricate naturally, they need hormones, and prostitutes have a tendency to run out of these when they fuck 10 guys a day. So the unnatural lubricants are a bit mechanical and hard for some to enjoy. Then there is the factor of choosing the best male partners genetically for their imagined children. And the mind like you say, may not realise that you have a dong on. So this may confuse some also.

If you want to look at the difference between different types of species, the one that stands out in regards to primates (apes and humans) is the infighting between males and females in 4 out of 5 species: orangutans, gorillas, chimps and humans all use are a p e as the primary means of reproducing. The only primate who doesn't, or didn't since we try to force ourselves into becoming more civilised, is the bonobo. And they live in complete polygamous tribal unity. With no fighting and no wars as a result. So this is about expanding the horizon and look one step further above the box that we live in.

My take on anthropology is 100% based on the Yale anthropology classes found on youtube.

https://youtu.be/mzdqyXtPbbE