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  1. #9745
    Quote Originally Posted by Neurosynth  [View Original Post]
    Yes, they actually have a big yearly meeting where they plan and maintain this conspiracy to make men think that women actually don't like having sex with lots of random strangers.
    Where I work they have monthly meetings. The women have a group. There is a Latin network and a black network and even a network for the cock suckers. But alas, there is nothing for white male heterosexuals.

    Funny story, some friends of mine were forced to undergo diversity training and they were told that there weren't enough women executives because of an "unconscious bias. " I thought it had to do with some cultural norms of single men that marry and start a family. Studies show that once married, these men are willing to work that 80 hour work week to support that family and married men with children are higher wage earners than single men. Women on the other hand, are the opposite. Single women or women without children make more money than women who get married and have families. Why? Because there is this cultural norm where women prefer to work less so they have the flexibility to raise children. Was any of this brought up in the diversity training? Of course not. It is because of the unconscious bias of sexist white males and nothing else. It cannot even be discussed. And at the end of the day how is the bottom line enhanced if your company is run by women? No one will tackle that either.

  2. #9744
    Quote Originally Posted by XXL  [View Original Post]
    I for one do not believe sex with strangers is such a psychological big deal for women. Women want it to be considered a big deal, indeed tantamount to r@pe, but that's a scam.
    The physiological are at PE is when the vagina does not lubricate itself on its own (due to foreplay). But when the setting is there for use of artificial lubricants, or by taking it slow, the physiological argument dies.

    The psychological are at PE is where the woman has no option to say no. But in an FKK, anyone, even the women are allowed to say no if they want. No matter if they in a theoretical case were forced to work there in the first place due to human trafficing. Since they would at the final step have a way out by saying no.

    So yes, the are at PE story is a pure scam story in this regard like you say. Made up by women not in high demand by men. Jealous women. Lesser attractive women. Like the British documentary prostitution episode on Russian escorts I saw on youtube showed. The top escorts who made a lot of money all loved their job as escorts. But the lower less attractive, less in demand escorts not making enough money all hated their jobs. Simply put, it is all about jealousy. And women, like men hate to be jealous.

    Many girls like this job in FKK's when they have enough options and are in high demand. Some of us men would also love to work as prostitutes if the women were hot enough and if we were in a position to choose. On my last trip I had a girl complaining to me when I finished after just 15 minutes: 'keep going! Don't stop? Did you have to cum so soon? I wanted you to keep going!

    Some girls in some clubs are in so high demand that they go almost non stop to the room on the slowest of days. And one girl for example like Lucy is making hundreds of thousands a year if not taking a vacation. That can make her set for life and retire after just 3-4 years.

    Oh, do trust me. Some women can enjoy this quite a bit. At Artemis I knew women there tried to eat aphrodisiacs in order to enjoy it better. In other clubs some take drugs for the same reason. That is too bad and a sad story though. So I avoid the drug clubs. Some of us knows which clubs that is. Or at least where it is most of it.

    It gets harder for them when they do 10 guys in one day and they get physically tired. Then they just run out of hormones and it turns into a sports marathon. But if you hit the girl after she has had a vacation, or the first session after a day of, you can even give her a real orgasm, the Yamayama way plus.

    But like some FKK girls also say: 'I don't do sports. I only fuck'. And the bodies some of them get is truly amazing. From just fucking. Sexersise is a great way of doing sports, and they save time by not going to the gym. But they need the mind of an (s) exhibitionist. Not enough of them have that unfortunately. But that is why you also pick the physical optics. Another punter I met at Wellcum told me:

    - All these women have perfect doggy-asses. My wife doesn't let me fuck her in doggy.

    So I replied:

    - Oh, that is a perfectly good excuse for a divorce!

    The jealousy can be the tricky part on all of this. It is mainly a game of jealousy even if the money is also there. I've had women tell me no just because I have told them 'later' a few times too many prior to finally going with them. In some clubs juggling girls can be tough since you want to go with all of them, but only have the power for one at a time. So they can use it against you if you choose another girl first. I hate it when I hear 'did you cheat on me?' LOL!

    Or like when a girl truly matures and get super hot like Lorena at Wellcum and you remembered you told her 'later' like 5+ times 8 months ago, but now she was the real miss Wellcum unless someone had bought coins and high jacked the show (she was leading well just 90 min before the end), and you get soft just by looking at her more sexy shapes than she had in the past when she was more young. Women do mature a lot at around age 22 from being sometimes too petite, into blooming and becoming a woman. But then because she remembered you had told her later and gone with other girls, she gets rough and answers when you ask her 'what are you thinking?' 'I am thinking of the 2 last guys I fucked'. LOL. At least she followed up with 'but are you ready now then? The jealousy and self image of FKK girls can get tense. Everyone wants to be the queen. In every club. And drama occurs. All women wants to be the queen of the hive.

    Some hot women leaves a club if they used to be one of the high earning queens, but falls down to 4th or 5th place. They just cannot take the competition and loss of self image.

  3. #9743
    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist  [View Original Post]

    As you imply, the women who want to equate prostitution with patriarchical r@pe are using this view as a weapon in a struggle to impose their power on society, to become the ones in charge so they can then abuse their power. It was ever thus, the oppressed become the new oppressors
    Very much like the Bolsheviks complaining about treatment of the peasants in Czarist Russia. It turns out that the peasants were far, far better off under the Czar than they ever where under the Bolsheviks. I think it would be the similar here. Why? Because the feminists are always right and they can't be reasoned with without you being labeled as a white-privileged sexist.

    Quote Originally Posted by XXL  [View Original Post]
    What is this nonsense about men being prostitutes for men? If you want the thought experiment to make any sense you should keep things heterosexual (men prostituting for women).

    I think physiological reasons for not being a prostitute should not be overlooked. Some women have overlong or erratic menstruations. Some women feel pain when intercourse doesn't finish quickly etc. Prostitution is physically demanding, it is a bit like a sport.

    I for one do not believe sex with strangers is such a psychological big deal for women. Women want it to be considered a big deal, indeed tantamount to r@pe, but that's a scam.
    You are correct XXL, this is the most stupid argument I have ever read. I am not familiar with these girls after work. I do know many of the girls in Montreal. One girl I have used drives a sports car that I never would be able to afford. Another bought a condo that costs as much as the house that I own, and I bought this house after a lifetime of work and after trading up two other houses. I know a third indy that fired her "pimp. " Turns out her "pimp" was a man who answered phone calls and e-mails and made a small wage. It would be far more accurate to call these guys secretaries because that is the job they are doing. They like them to be male so the hobbyists on the other side hear a man's voice and think that that maybe they offer some security. Another lady that has become a friend of mine is a fellow professional that does this just for some extra cash off hours and the thrill of it all. The point is that the male hating feminists want civilians to think that the movie Taken is not the exception and that the majority of the girls are trafficked (whatever that means) or under-aged.

    Fox news ran a story a few years ago where they interviewed some aged hooker that I wouldn't fuck for free in the Atlanta area. She said she started at age 14 in strip clubs and by age 16 she was doing outcalls. She came up with some unbelievable number of girls int he Atlanta area that were going through this process. The escorts of TE&are forum that started as strippers in the Atlanta area said this is impossible because everyone of them had a license hanging in the managers office. How is this different in Europe? Especially with the RO girls? What is your experience?

    And, If I could buy a house like I have now and at age 19 and drive a car like Maria does etc. , and not have had to pay back all the college loans that I had to pay etc. I might suck a cock for all that LOL! I wouldn't like it but.

  4. #9742
    Quote Originally Posted by XXL  [View Original Post]
    ... I for one do not believe sex with strangers is such a psychological big deal for women. Women want it to be considered a big deal, indeed tantamount to r@pe, but that's a scam. ...
    Yes, they actually have a big yearly meeting where they plan and maintain this conspiracy to make men think that women actually don't like having sex with lots of random strangers.

  5. #9741
    XXL. Like you I don't think there is any feminine psychological impediment to being a prostitute (as opposed to cultural conditioning). Physical problems do make it difficult for some women as you say.

    Just my opinion based on the women I have known.

    As you imply, the women who want to equate prostitution with patriarchical r@pe are using this view as a weapon in a struggle to impose their power on society, to become the ones in charge so they can then abuse their power. It was ever thus, the oppressed become the new oppressors

  6. #9740
    Quote Originally Posted by Bfsie  [View Original Post]
    It is easy for you and other men to say "... Once they've been performing the job a while... ". For vast majority (if not most) of women there is not once. They are mentally and psychologically unable to make this initial first step.
    That's why he said "Once they've been performing for a while. " I've known a couple of girls who back out after a few days on the job, but that's because they were not able to get that first hurdle. But once they pass that first month or so it becomes pretty easy for the majority of them. I'm sure sometimes they have bad days, like when they make little money or if a customer is especially rough with them. For the most part though, these girls take the money and move on without looking back. The only girls who struggle are the ones who cannot separate the physical from the emotional connection, usually the young ones you speak of.

  7. #9739
    Quote Originally Posted by Bfsie  [View Original Post]
    Think about the following: imagine if you broke with no money, would you be a male prostitute for men? I think that vast majority (if not most) of us would stay on government welfare to tough it out or even commit other crimes rather than being a male prostitute for men. Vast majority of women mentally and psychologically can not be prostitutes no matter how much (in meaningful sense) they would be paid. They are categorically out of the prostitution business.
    What is this nonsense about men being prostitutes for men? If you want the thought experiment to make any sense you should keep things heterosexual (men prostituting for women).

    I think physiological reasons for not being a prostitute should not be overlooked. Some women have overlong or erratic menstruations. Some women feel pain when intercourse doesn't finish quickly etc. Prostitution is physically demanding, it is a bit like a sport.

    I for one do not believe sex with strangers is such a psychological big deal for women. Women want it to be considered a big deal, indeed tantamount to r@pe, but that's a scam.

  8. #9738
    Quote Originally Posted by McAdonis  [View Original Post]
    Taking that initial first step to enter the profession is difficult. That I will agree with. But once they've been performing the job a while, the work becomes routine.
    It is easy for you and other men to say "... Once they've been performing the job a while... ". For vast majority (if not most) of women there is not once. They are mentally and psychologically unable to make this initial first step. I am not just copying the theory from somewhere, I have been in mongering business for long time and have first-hand experience about this because one of my tastes is to do the beginners (who just begin their prostitution career). There is one brothel in Germany specializing young beginners, of which I am a frequent guest. I knew many beginners (whom I have booked on their first-day in the brothel) backed out without doing any customer on their first day and never heard them again. Those beginners are considered to be much more open to prostitution, but still couldn't make this first step.

  9. #9737
    Just for the flow of the chat, I deleted my question in post #9723, following is the rest of my post irrelevant to my question:


    I just scanned through the past a few pages before I posted my above question, some posters think that the prostitute's price has not inflated for a long time and is determined by market supply and demand. I think it is not that simple and the prostitute's price is a complex issue involving finance, culture, society, mentality, psychology and so on. I am too lazy to think through and elaborate it on the ISG, but I give you a couple of points to think about it.

    1. The price of 30 min session have not gone up for 10 or 15 years as some posters suggested, but the quility and service of the WGs have gone down substantially. Overall value (the quility and service of the WGs) of current 30-min session is probably worth the value of 15-min session 10 or 15 years ago. It is like, for example, you buy a refrigerator, if you buy it 10 years ago, it can last 10 years because of its quality, but if you buy it today, it only lasts 5 years. So its actual price doubles in 10 years because you used to buy one refrigerator in 10 years, now you have to buy two in 10 years.

    2. You can't simply compare prostitute's job with normal jobs. The job of prostitutes is more complicated involving prostitute's finance, culture, society, mentality, psychology and so on. Think about the following: imagine if you broke with no money, would you be a male prostitute for men? I think that vast majority (if not most) of us would stay on government welfare to tough it out or even commit other crimes rather than being a male prostitute for men. Vast majority of women mentally and psychologically can not be prostitutes no matter how much (in meaningful sense) they would be paid. They are categorically out of the prostitution business.

  10. #9736
    The gray hair midget version of Terminator? Without all the muscles?

  11. #9735
    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist  [View Original Post]
    That guy is my role model. Every club I go the girls all know him! Every girl I've had is secondhand from him.
    Not that guy! I meant the other weirdo who also visits the big clubs.

  12. #9734
    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist  [View Original Post]
    That guy is my role model. Every club I go the girls all know him! Every girl I've had is secondhand from him.
    He is? I thought he was just a joker who gets a kick out of posting the wrong information. Posting about clubs that do not exist! Guys like jimmy boy 99 going out of his way to hunt down his posts & give the correct info? Posting silly things just to pump up his post count?

    When I see him, I'll let him know he has 1 fan on his forum!

  13. #9733
    Quote Originally Posted by VitoCorleone  [View Original Post]
    How do you guys have do much stamina?

    I know a weirdo who visits 6-7 times a year & stays 10-16 days & visits the clubs everyday. No days off! I wish he would report more often!
    That guy is my role model. Every club I go the girls all know him! Every girl I've had is secondhand from him.

  14. #9732
    Quote Originally Posted by Bfsie  [View Original Post]
    I meant above: ". Would you be a male prostitute for men?. ", not for women. Initially I wrote: ". Would you be a male prostitute?. ".
    If I can choose female clients of my choice, I will be happy to be one LOL I would not even mind paying to be one as long as I can choose my female clients LOL.

    We men are also kind of prostitute who pays LOL.

  15. #9731
    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist  [View Original Post]
    Iceberg. Thanks for the views. It would be interesting if World were to see a revival. As for lack of sperm, you are not the only one, after about 14 sessions in 2. 5 days I have had to take a day off. My last girl couldn't understand that I had run out of bodily fluids: it got a bit embarrassing.
    How do you guys have do much stamina?

    I know a weirdo who visits 6-7 times a year & stays 10-16 days & visits the clubs everyday. No days off! I wish he would report more often!

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