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[Be Wilder]

It's been nearly 4 years since I last visited Frankfurt in November 2019 but I'll finally be going back and spending 4 days / nights across 2 weekends (decided to make a detour each way on a trip to Paris). Planning one night apiece in Sharks, Palace and Oase and the 4th day which will be a Sunday will re-visit the one where I had the best experience.

I have been keeping an eye on developments and have come to terms with the new pricing era. Am I right in understanding it is now generally 100/30 and 150/60 but that ought to get you owo, DFK and RO except for Palace where that will only get you owo. And even then it's best to clarify these services beforehand? As it's been such a long time, I don't mind too much as it was a matter of time before there were increases though I think 80/30. 150/60 makes much more sense. Moreover, the reality is that had become the case in Palace post the 2017 law and in 2018 and 2019 I was only getting owo in 60 minutes for 100 with old regulars.

Anything else worth knowing in the "new world"? I'm obviously looking forward to it and I'm interested to see how many old girls I recognise but have relatively low expectations as even pre-pandemic quality of girls and service was slipping - 2014-2016 was a much better era than 2017-2019 and judging from this forum things have got worse post-Covid.

[Tintin1]

Yes, you make a fair point TINTIN. I hope I didn't come across as judgemental either, that wasn't the intention. Thanks for your comment.

Nah, I was just speaking up for the guys who like to get it "over" with and then relax. I've actually heard so many guys say, that when they arrive they have to quickly has sex so they can enjoy the rest of the evening. I'm usually the other way, I spend a lot of time building up my (obviously useless) analysis of the girls walking around and then go off for a while. I've also had girls that after sex talk such nonsense that you can't wait to get back to the bar. So there can be a lot of reasons men come back quickly! Had a girl in Vienna? Frankfurt? Who was an incredible story teller. So I lost track of time. Doesn't happen often!

[BobNSuzy]

To each their own. Many possibilites here:

- Some guys just want a quickie. Nothing wrong with it. In some cultures the quickest you can come, the more "man" you are.

- We do not know what the guys paid: If 50 E, then you are lucky to get more than a very quick CBJ / CFS session in 2023. Sad, but true.

Now, if I paid 100 E /30, then I'd expect a quality session (including kissing, DATY, BJ and CFS) for 20- 30 mnts. It is also my experience that the vast majority of girls will grant you that (going service for going rate). Actually, many girls are not clockwatchers and will allow a little bit of overtime as they regard 100 E /30 as good payment.

If it is my first session with a girl, then she should understand that she is tested. If the service is not up to par or I am shortchanged for time or overcharged, then chances are zero for a repeat. A bad provider gets 100 E and a byebye, while the good providers can look forward to priority and perhaps 1000 E in the next months. IME the vast majority of girls understand this and are eager to please.

Your observations took place on an early evening, but it is unclear which day of week. If a Friday and Saturday evening, then I suppose there would be a good number of guys around, and that certain girls will regard that time of week as "payment time" and do quick turnovers to optimize earnings. It's normal. Perhaps early week has been frustrating for these girls and they feel they need to compensate? We as gents should be aware of this. My own strategy is to only pick reliable providers (usually a regular) when there are crowds, or patiently wait until crowds settle a little and the girls more relaxed. And I avoid girls who are known to be too quick.

A small anecdote:

Shortchange of time is nothing new. 20 years ago there was a tall German blond bombshell and BJ queen who was notoriously known for her quick turnovers in the old kino at Oase. It was reported on ISG that she was observed doing FIVE guys in one hour! That is 50E + CIM extra 50E x 5 = 500E/hour, gentlemen. With the CIM solution she did not even bother with a shower between sessions (just a little bit of listerine). Haha ...!! But the point being: The guys were all left fully satisfied.

Oh, the old kino at Oase ...

Taking too long to cum is obviously a biological disadvantage evolutionarily speaking. If you take pride in pleasing women by lasting longer you might be trying to please your master. Some people can cum and basically keep on going. That is the best reproductively. If someone cums four times in an hour they are reproducing four times as much.

[Abox79]

I like to have a quick cum soon after arrival. Then I can relax while I reload. BUT I never say yes to the girls who approach when I first arrive. They are inevitably a bad choice.

Good point Neurosynth. I've nearly always found that the first couple or so approaches are more persistent than others and that gives me bad vibes. Thanks for commenting.

[Abox79]

I know a lot of guys who arrive st FKKs and need to let off "steam" so they can then sit, enjoy the view and plan for their full meal later. For many people the point of the clubs is not to spend an evening with a girl but hang out with friends and observe. I once saw a young guy in the space of 60-90 minutes go upstairs with 3 different girls. He was happy. Who am I to judge?

Yes, you make a fair point TINTIN. I hope I didn't come across as judgemental either, that wasn't the intention. Thanks for your comment.

[Neurosynth]

I know a lot of guys who arrive st FKKs and need to let off "steam" so they can then sit, enjoy the view and plan for their full meal later. For many people the point of the clubs is not to spend an evening with a girl but hang out with friends and observe. I once saw a young guy in the space of 60-90 minutes go upstairs with 3 different girls. He was happy. Who am I to judge?

I like to have a quick cum soon after arrival. Then I can relax while I reload. BUT I never say yes to the girls who approach when I first arrive. They are inevitably a bad choice.

[Tintin1]

On my recent trip to Oase (for a limited time of about an hour in early evening) I was casually observing when some girls were going off to a room with guys and having a rough estimation of their return. I'd say that at least 70% of the girls were returning with the guy to the small lockers in less than 20 minutes and a sizeable amount of those within 15 minutes. If the guys were happy with the service and the time then that's fine, but I couldn't help feeling that a lot of guys get he feeling they have been screwed, if you'll pardon the pun. I don't set myself as being any kind of expert but I do my best to ensure I'm getting at least 20-25 minutes. Your thoughts?

I know a lot of guys who arrive st FKKs and need to let off "steam" so they can then sit, enjoy the view and plan for their full meal later. For many people the point of the clubs is not to spend an evening with a girl but hang out with friends and observe. I once saw a young guy in the space of 60-90 minutes go upstairs with 3 different girls. He was happy. Who am I to judge?

[Sirioja]

On my recent trip to Oase (for a limited time of about an hour in early evening) I was casually observing when some girls were going off to a room with guys and having a rough estimation of their return. I'd say that at least 70% of the girls were returning with the guy to the small lockers in less than 20 minutes and a sizeable amount of those within 15 minutes. If the guys were happy with the service and the time then that's fine, but I couldn't help feeling that a lot of guys get he feeling they have been screwed, if you'll pardon the pun. I don't set myself as being any kind of expert but I do my best to ensure I'm getting at least 20-25 minutes. Your thoughts?

Just guys rabitting, not able for more, when 1 hour is usually short for me.

[Shark16]

On my recent trip to Oase (for a limited time of about an hour in early evening) I was casually observing when some girls were going off to a room with guys and having a rough estimation of their return. I'd say that at least 70% of the girls were returning with the guy to the small lockers in less than 20 minutes and a sizeable amount of those within 15 minutes. If the guys were happy with the service and the time then that's fine, but I couldn't help feeling that a lot of guys get he feeling they have been screwed, if you'll pardon the pun. I don't set myself as being any kind of expert but I do my best to ensure I'm getting at least 20-25 minutes. Your thoughts?

To each their own. Many possibilites here:

- Some guys just want a quickie. Nothing wrong with it. In some cultures the quickest you can come, the more "man" you are.

- We do not know what the guys paid: If 50 E, then you are lucky to get more than a very quick CBJ / CFS session in 2023. Sad, but true.

Now, if I paid 100 E /30, then I'd expect a quality session (including kissing, DATY, BJ and CFS) for 20- 30 mnts. It is also my experience that the vast majority of girls will grant you that (going service for going rate). Actually, many girls are not clockwatchers and will allow a little bit of overtime as they regard 100 E /30 as good payment.

If it is my first session with a girl, then she should understand that she is tested. If the service is not up to par or I am shortchanged for time or overcharged, then chances are zero for a repeat. A bad provider gets 100 E and a byebye, while the good providers can look forward to priority and perhaps 1000 E in the next months. IME the vast majority of girls understand this and are eager to please.

Your observations took place on an early evening, but it is unclear which day of week. If a Friday and Saturday evening, then I suppose there would be a good number of guys around, and that certain girls will regard that time of week as "payment time" and do quick turnovers to optimize earnings. It's normal. Perhaps early week has been frustrating for these girls and they feel they need to compensate? We as gents should be aware of this. My own strategy is to only pick reliable providers (usually a regular) when there are crowds, or patiently wait until crowds settle a little and the girls more relaxed. And I avoid girls who are known to be too quick.

A small anecdote:

Shortchange of time is nothing new. 20 years ago there was a tall German blond bombshell and BJ queen who was notoriously known for her quick turnovers in the old kino at Oase. It was reported on ISG that she was observed doing FIVE guys in one hour! That is 50E + CIM extra 50E x 5 = 500E/hour, gentlemen. With the CIM solution she did not even bother with a shower between sessions (just a little bit of listerine). Haha ...!! But the point being: The guys were all left fully satisfied.

Oh, the old kino at Oase ...

[Turgid]

On my recent trip to Oase (for a limited time of about an hour in early evening) I was casually observing when some girls were going off to a room with guys and having a rough estimation of their return. I'd say that at least 70% of the girls were returning with the guy to the small lockers in less than 20 minutes and a sizeable amount of those within 15 minutes. If the guys were happy with the service and the time then that's fine, but I couldn't help feeling that a lot of guys get he feeling they have been screwed, if you'll pardon the pun. I don't set myself as being any kind of expert but I do my best to ensure I'm getting at least 20-25 minutes. Your thoughts?

If they came within that short time then its their fault, girls usually want to leave soon after the guy cums, it is what it is now. If the guy did not orgasm then they've been screwed.

[Abox79]

On my recent trip to Oase (for a limited time of about an hour in early evening) I was casually observing when some girls were going off to a room with guys and having a rough estimation of their return. I'd say that at least 70% of the girls were returning with the guy to the small lockers in less than 20 minutes and a sizeable amount of those within 15 minutes. If the guys were happy with the service and the time then that's fine, but I couldn't help feeling that a lot of guys get he feeling they have been screwed, if you'll pardon the pun. I don't set myself as being any kind of expert but I do my best to ensure I'm getting at least 20-25 minutes. Your thoughts?

[Steve 9696]

Hi,

I am visiting Germany in Oct again after several years post Pandemic. I used to go to the following and were happy:

- Golden Time, and The Living Room in thesseldorf.

- Shark and World in Frankfurt.

Are these still good FKKs with reasonable prices? Or should I try other places? I will have a car so can drive further away if need be.

Thanks for expert inputs.

I saw a recent review on a guy who didn't like Penelope. But I did. Went with a buddy and we each found girls we liked (2 for me). And pricing was more traditional 50/ hf with maybe some minor up charges but not like Sharks. It's a small club and the guy to girl ratio was high but most guys not taking girls. And the atmosphere is very low pressure. We didn't get approached or coerced at all. Just drank till we saw girls we liked and super easy. Good experience.

P.S. Depending on when in October I might run across you. Feel free to PM me with your dates. Penelope is about 30 mins NE of Essen.

[Thrymiir]

Hi,
Are these still good FKKs with reasonable prices? Or should I try other places? I will have a car so can drive further away if need be.

Thanks for expert inputs.

I never thought that world was great. I prefer Oase and it is closer and easy to reach by car.

In winters the outdoor area is not important and you could also go for Palace. But check if there is anything going on at the Frankfurt fair at that time. The girls will up their prices and it will be much fuller if there is a fair going on.

[Sirioja]

What's the best FKK Club in the Ruhrgebiet and thesseldorf area or not too far from Essen?

There are Acapulco Gold, Penelope, Salome and RTC.

[Amnesia]

What's the best FKK Club in the Ruhrgebiet and theüsseldorf area or not too far from Essen?