German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[Sirioja]

What's the best FKK Club in the Ruhrgebiet and thesseldorf area or not too far from Essen?

There are Acapulco Gold, Penelope, Salome and RTC.

[Amnesia]

What's the best FKK Club in the Ruhrgebiet and theüsseldorf area or not too far from Essen?

[Sirioja]

Hi,

I am visiting Germany in Oct again after several years post Pandemic. I used to go to the following and were happy:

- Golden Time, and The Living Room in thesseldorf.

- Shark and World in Frankfurt.

Are these still good FKKs with reasonable prices? Or should I try other places? I will have a car so can drive further away if need be.

Thanks for expert inputs.

No more Bruggen and new LR.

[MeridienL]

Hi,

I am visiting Germany in Oct again after several years post Pandemic. I used to go to the following and were happy:

- Golden Time, and The Living Room in theüsseldorf.

- Shark and World in Frankfurt.

Are these still good FKKs with reasonable prices? Or should I try other places? I will have a car so can drive further away if need be.

Thanks for expert inputs.

[Turgid]

...... He crushed backpage.....

And this by the US's numero uno monger.

[BobNSuzy]

In case you don't know, there already exist FKK-like brothel in Nevada near Las Vegas. The famous one is "Chicken Ranch Brothel". 2023 rate is, as far as I heard, $40 to enter and one session starts from $350, and usually $500-1000 for 9's and 10's. Much more expensive than what you suggested. In addition, going there require you rent a car, because 2 hour drive from Las Vegas. It's actually cheaper for American to fly to Europe or Latin America.

I don't know why ISG site doesn't have USA information, but probably because it's illegal in other states.

I don't know if it is still the same way but if you want to go to a brothel in Nevada you go to Reno not Las Vegas. When I went the price was $150 maybe $200 for something basic. I would read the prices quoted in the news media and laugh because I knew that was not the going rate. Anyway I am sure there has been price increase. I was there 30 years ago. The Mustang Ranch had a cool vibe to it for me being out in the middle of the western dessert and next to Lake Tahoe. I have since found better venues. I am not sure but I think I would still rather go to a brothel than do the stupid escort route. The escort route in the US in it's present form is a no go for me. It was ok when the agencies had websites and pictures. They passed a law that held businesses liable for harm to anyone real or imagined by way of a photo. Trump did that. I don’t mean to get political but it is interesting that it happened under his administration. He crushed human trafficking. He crushed backpage. Whatever is the most recent incarnation of prostitution in the US is crap.

[Mongerer88]

In case you don't know, there already exist FKK-like brothel in Nevada near Las Vegas. The famous one is "Chicken Ranch Brothel". 2023 rate is, as far as I heard, $40 to enter and one session starts from $350, and usually $500-1000 for 9's and 10's. Much more expensive than what you suggested. In addition, going there require you rent a car, because 2 hour drive from Las Vegas. It's actually cheaper for American to fly to Europe or Latin America.

I don't know why ISG site doesn't have USA information, but probably because it's illegal in other states.

There are three separate review / discussion boards for the USA And the legal Nevada brothels are barely mentioned because no one goes to them any longer.

The smart phone and the internet changed things.

People book independent escorts. The only true safe way to do that is to give her some screening information so it is assured that neither party is law enforcement. One of the obvious benefits of review / message boards is that the customer knows that the escort is not law enforcement.

USA Prices for high quality escorts are high. Compensation for all types of work in the USA Is much higher than compensation for the same type of work outside the USA, including sex work. That is why USA Guys, particularly those traveling on the company dime, like this board and the much lower prices for ladies with looks and services that might command $400 to $700 an hour in the USA The USA Guy might get the same for 20 to 50 percent of that amount in a foreign country. Conspicuously absent from the discussion is the fact that the USA Guy earning $100,000 to $200,000 might earn $20,000 to $50,000 in the foreign country for comparable work, if it even exists.

Even those not traveling on the company dime often enjoy foreign travel, so the lower prices are appreciated by them. But pricing is driven by the earnings and wealth level of customers, and the economic opportunities of the providers regarding other types of work. As I have said many times, if the USA Easily allowed Mexican and South American women to freely enter the country and do sex work, commercial sex prices would drop. The practical difficulty with them trying to do so now, even if entry was not so heavily blocked, is that the screening mechanisms are not friendly to non-English speakers, and law enforcement is much more likely to target them in stings, like they do with Asian ladies at massage parlors. So it only works if an infrastructure is built for them, like Germany does for Romanians. That is never going to happen.

So prices in the USA Will always be high, and law enforcement will always target low-priced ladies, which adds to the pricing problem.

[Sirioja]

Its almost twenty years now I've been going to FKKs and I've always had better relations with German babes than Romanian beauties.

I used to prefer Romanians more sensual, with better care for hygiene and body and had some great, but like at Globe or Sharks, level of Romanians is falling, less woman type, not able to kiss like a woman, for 200/60 or more. Since 2022 , found great Germans I got weekly, more GFE than before, when coming from escorting, when better and more safe business with new rate than escorting, but I have to compete with Germans who want to keep them only for them. They are ready to pay big money, I pay as few I can, 100/60 , 150/60 or 200/90 , but treat them like women, making them cum. My favorite game when they choose me first.

[Downandup]

I don't know why ISG site doesn't have USA information, but probably because it's illegal in other states.

Yes, that's probably a big part of it, but then Admin has a separate site for the US: http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/.

[David1266]

The US is run by impotent evangelising deviants who hate it that there are normal people who enjoy normal sex. FKKs in the US would be the best mongering in the world. Probably would be expensive. US $100 to enter, US $200/ half hour, $300/ hour but women of all ethnicities mostly Latin American and black with many Whites and Asians to choose from. What great mongering! I hate those impotent evangelising deviants.

In case you don't know, there already exist FKK-like brothel in Nevada near Las Vegas. The famous one is "Chicken Ranch Brothel". 2023 rate is, as far as I heard, $40 to enter and one session starts from $350, and usually $500-1000 for 9's and 10's. Much more expensive than what you suggested. In addition, going there require you rent a car, because 2 hour drive from Las Vegas. It's actually cheaper for American to fly to Europe or Latin America.

I don't know why ISG site doesn't have USA information, but probably because it's illegal in other states.

[Turgid]

Money don't make happiness. I would be so happy to still have my last girlfriend who would be 52 and half now, but such charm and never stopping to kiss, compare to little Romanian girls. Since 2022, I find Romanians level really fell for charm and sensuality, when German girls improved for my GFE way, maybe because often coming from escorting.

Its almost twenty years now I've been going to FKKs and I've always had better relations with German babes than Romanian beauties.

[Pessimist]

For good or bad, it shows you how well the freelancing system has worked in the USA.

Give a hot, young girl of any skin color internet access, smartphone and Uber and watch her work her magic.

We have a hell of a lot of poverty in the USA, but you don't see hot, young women in homeless camps or in soup kitchens. Those are filled with men and ugly / fat women, usually older.

Build an FKK with the intention of ladies selling sex multiple times a day at lower prices and you won't get many applicants unless you allow women from south of the border to come and work at them.

There are some "trapped" hot, young USA Women who need to stay in impoverished areas due to family obligations who don't get to realize their full potential. But they wouldn't by definition be able to travel to remote FKKs and work at them for long periods of time.

There are plenty of struggling Americans. Hit, females are not among them, regardless of race. They are doing better than ever, hence the very high cost of commercial sex in the USA And the lack of a need to build a facility for them to work.

I'm sure you know this too but there is not the slightest chance that a Sharks type FKK being a reality in the US, now or in the next 10 years. Too many reasons. I simply don't see it as even a remote possibility, regardless of the prices.

[Pessimist]

After being married for 50 years, I took a careful look at my wife one day and said, 'Fifty years ago we had a cheap house, a junk car, slept on a sofa bed and watched a 10-inch black and white TV, but I got to sleep with a hot young girl every night.

Now, I have a $500,000 home, a $45,000 car, a nice big bed and a large screen TV, but I'm sleeping with a 69-year-old woman. It seems to me that you're not holding up your side of things. '.

My wife told me to go out and find a hot young girl and she would make sure that I would once again be living in a cheap house, driving a junk car, sleeping on a sofa bed and watching a 10-inch black and white TV.

You have been married for 50 years and your sex drive apparently is still strong. Congrats!

Sounds like you got married very young. That's never a great idea.

Did your wife not work at all? Otherwise, she too must have contributed to that half mil home.

I wouldn't make a big deal about the TV though. The latest Apple watch is probably more expensive than a 75 inch TV at Costco.

[Sirioja]

After being married for 50 years, I took a careful look at my wife one day and said, 'Fifty years ago we had a cheap house, a junk car, slept on a sofa bed and watched a 10-inch black and white TV, but I got to sleep with a hot young girl every night.

Now, I have a $500,000 home, a $45,000 car, a nice big bed and a large screen TV, but I'm sleeping with a 69-year-old woman. It seems to me that you're not holding up your side of things. '.

My wife told me to go out and find a hot young girl and she would make sure that I would once again be living in a cheap house, driving a junk car, sleeping on a sofa bed and watching a 10-inch black and white TV.

Money don't make happiness. I would be so happy to still have my last girlfriend who would be 52 and half now, but such charm and never stopping to kiss, compare to little Romanian girls. Since 2022, I find Romanians level really fell for charm and sensuality, when German girls improved for my GFE way, maybe because often coming from escorting.

[Turgid]

After being married for 50 years, I took a careful look at my wife one day and said, 'Fifty years ago we had a cheap house, a junk car, slept on a sofa bed and watched a 10-inch black and white TV, but I got to sleep with a hot young girl every night.

Now, I have a $500,000 home, a $45,000 car, a nice big bed and a large screen TV, but I'm sleeping with a 69-year-old woman. It seems to me that you're not holding up your side of things. '.

My wife told me to go out and find a hot young girl and she would make sure that I would once again be living in a cheap house, driving a junk car, sleeping on a sofa bed and watching a 10-inch black and white TV.