German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[Mr Ho]

I don't discuss service before going to the room.

HB.

Me too, but in room, I tell her that, OK it is such and such time now on my watch and I would go one hour or even more from now if the session is good, but if it is bad I got to cut it at 30 minutes. Then I discuss the detail of the session.

Either way, some girls provide good service, some just don't, but in general I am happy.

[The Cane]

Leaving out Terms, how is the general scene in Sao Paolo, Brazil?

Is it similar? More of a night time gig after doing other stuff during the day?

I've heard there is more of European look girls of various background in those parts? Is that pretty significant compared to the terms?

Also, what is the pricing, and what is included in a typical session? Extras (as considered in De) typically provided in the agreed price? Is is more like Bazar, negotiate prices? Is there services provided commonly on a session to be called "standard?" Do you take girls back to the hotel or are rooms provided in the venues at Sao Paolo?

Dude,

Weeks ago I sent you by PM a link to my report "Sampling Sampa". You obviously haven't read it. It will tell you tons about the scene in Sao Paulo. I also did another trip report several years ago entitled "The Cane's Latest, Greatest Rio Adventures". That report is still good because it's full of pictures of the girls. Plus, I and others have posted tons and tons of other photos. If you're serious about going to Brazil, please RTFF. All the information you need is already on this site in the relevant sections, and has been provided I don't know how many times! And I say again to you for the last time. There are plenty of European-looking girls in Brazil! Both in Sao Paulo and Rio and beyond, but particularly in the south. In fact, my favorite from my last trip was a gorgeous blue-eyed, blonde of German descent. I described my encounter with her in my report entitled "Sampling Sampa". You keep asking the same questions about Brazil over and over again, and yet, you don't seize upon the information that is openly available to you. RTFF man if you're serious!

[Mongerer88]

I do Believe that the only reason to use internet to get an Escort is because of the possibility to get a higher class girl who doesn't want to be so exposed in a brothel or waste her time because she has other commitments like school or other work.

But I can also understand that approach in Barcelona because their puticlubs / night brothels are expensive and crappy. I love Vive and Scandalo, taking a drink listening to the Music, watching, chatting and touching the Girls. That's a very big part of the charm for me, without that I would consider staying home.

Barcelona really has two types of brothels. The boutique brothels like Devorah Suites, Farell X, capriciVicbcn and Villaroel that generally encourage or require appointments but provide GFE and BBBJ (often CIM) automatically, with only very minor upsells for Greek, and the bigger brothels like Felinas and la Vien de Rose (I think I butchered the name but I am slightly drunk) where it is much harder to get full GFE unless you happen to pick the right girl.

One thing I like about smaller places in general, as well as what I like about incall with independents and outcall to my hotel with some agencies is that I like the intimacy and privacy of a nice room where I can possibly have or bring some favorite sex toys to make the most of the hour. As always, different strokes for different folks, but that obviously is harder to achieve at an FKK.

[ShooBree]

I do Believe that the only reason to use internet to get an Escort is because of the possibility to get a higher class girl who doesn't want to be so exposed in a brothel or waste her time because she has other commitments like school or other work.

But I can also understand that approach in Barcelona because their puticlubs / night brothels are expensive and crappy. I love Vive and Scandalo, taking a drink listening to the Music, watching, chatting and touching the Girls. That's a very big part of the charm for me, without that I would consider staying home.

[McAdonis]

Leaving out Terms, how is the general scene in Sao Paolo, Brazil?

Is it similar? More of a night time gig after doing other stuff during the day?

I've heard there is more of European look girls of various background in those parts? Is that pretty significant compared to the terms?

Better pose this question to the Cane in the SP thread.

I only went to four venues in Brazil. All were thermas, three in Rio, one in SP. During the day clinicas are open, but they have fewer girls, so I preferred to sight-see.

Didn't see any girls who looked really white to me. Maybe a few were a little exotic. As white as Amor (Bu), who is part-Gypsy BTW. That is about as white as I saw. I saw one WG who resembled Janine (Sharks) facially, but if I saw her in normal light, she may have had skin tone and hair color like Penelope Cruz.

[McAdonis]

You just don't know peoples tastes and preferences in person, impossible to know what they like on a review board. And you really don't know what kind of twisted shit they like to do in the rooms.

I have this problem a lot because I don't find mongers with the same optical tastes as me. Also I am more BBBJ, and less DFK oriented than most other mongers.

But that just means you have to talk to more mongers. I have only sessioned about 10-15 current Shark girls. But I more or less know which girls are generally good service for a wide range of mongers. I mean Milana Serbia, I never sessioned with her, but I know she does long rooms, and many customers seem extremely happy with her. Same for Sandra De. So they'd probably be good for 90 percent of customers.

[Breadman]

+1 Couldn't have said better. I will add that FKK sometimes requires more investment in time. Sitting and waiting in club. Striking up conversations with fellow mongers. The only way around that is to collect the WG's whatsapps and pre-schedule, but generally the protocol is to session her a few times before that.

Walk into a crowded room of possible choices and across the way you see one of the ugliest chicks you've ever laid eyes on with silicone tits ten years past their expiration date (one was sagging heavily, might have been a slight leakage) and you turn to your newfound ISG buddy and say 'boy that girl hit the ugly tree all the way down', he looks and goes right over and takes her to the room. You just don't know peoples tastes and preferences in person, impossible to know what they like on a review board. And you really don't know what kind of twisted shit they like to do in the rooms. I fucked this chick last night that I gave her a '4' rating in terms of looks (not the girl with the sagging silicon tits), facially she just wasn't all that attractive. But in that dark vip room where you couldn't see her face very well but the service and the nice slim young body was all that was needed. Plus she took a pounding. You just never know until you fork over a bill.

[McAdonis]

Personally I use an agency for the most part in Portugal, but they provide translation and booking for the ladies, not management. Most of the locals seem to prefer independents over either the brothels or an agency.

I use freelance and agencies. Freelance offer lower prices because the middleman is cut out. But agencies provide recourse and a formal way to complain. One German freelancer I've used is always too busy to pick up her phone. And she overbooks herself just like the airlines do, because she assume every third customer will no-show. So you show up at the agreed upon time, and then you play this game, where you have to call every 5 minutes until she hopefully picks up. Guess what? It is well documented on boards that she is this unreliable. But she is still in demand despite this!! Because her optics and service are worth the low price she charges, so men are willing to risk losing an entire afternoon or evening.

Give a hard-working young lady a smart phone and an Internet ad on an established board, and once she gets a few reviews, she is making a lot of money without the need for overhead and management at a big brothel. But I guess the same thing doesn't work everywhere.

The same thing does not work everywhere. There are plenty of girls who try to freelance in Germany, but the problem is they have to remain price competitive with the German paysex scene. You mention cities where freelance and small agencies have succeeded but none of those cities have paysex options quite like Frankfurt or NRW (price, quantity, quality, convenience).

Many porn stars stop coming to Germany after one or two tours. There should be no surprise why.

Don't assume that FKK girls are not as clever as the ones who put up ads on the Internet. FKK girls can take advantage of the huge marketplace that FKK creates. In FKK, they will see 500 customers per day. More potential customers means more potential targets that they can size up. They know who the 50 EUR guys are. And they know which customers are looking for love in the brothel (I. E. Who will take them out of the club and spoil them).

[McAdonis]

Images are snippet of time(is it current?), not wholly a reality, but yeah, face has lots of importance, it's gamble.

Also, look at Globe's airbrushed for example, it's far away from reality. Depends on currentsy and how much the image portreys the reality.

They will try to impress with best images. Also, scamming of fake images are possible if not a reputable agency.

Think OP's point was that if everyone reviewed regularly and often, than there would be reports that would warn you that the escort is using photos from a decade ago.

[McAdonis]

FKK clubs require less reports or reviews. There's the WYSIWYG effect plus other guys in the clubs who are open to talk about the girls and their service, there's a kind of community around regulars and even foreigners. You just ask a guy if the girl was good or not, if she kissed or not etc.

All other P6 options are anonymous. You do not see other mongers. So there's a demand to exchange reviews and reports online.

HB.

+1 Couldn't have said better. I will add that FKK sometimes requires more investment in time. Sitting and waiting in club. Striking up conversations with fellow mongers. The only way around that is to collect the WG's whatsapps and pre-schedule, but generally the protocol is to session her a few times before that.

[PussyLiccker]

Can yall link videos or images of examples of typical you seen in parts where European decent communities are around? I assume Sao Paolo is the place.

Like, you checking the towns, is there hot ones in lot of places?

[Hessen Bub]

That's pretty good. My luck wasn't so good. I think this can depend on venues, service discussion with girls, and if you strongly pick on gut instincts or not.

I don't discuss service before going to the room.

HB.

[PussyLiccker]

These countries never had anything comparable in scale and efficiency to German FKK. So if a new business model were to take over, it would not happen overnight. I suppose Spain may have big-scale brothels, but as you say the offerings are inconsistent (I. E. Some CBJ, different prices), which suggests me the operators are hand-off, and perhaps that turned off the local populace and pushed them towards a different scene.

I think the scene is for locals with more disposable income and guys that travel there for more than p6 scene. Looking for Latinas in Europe or closer for short trips.

Germany is of course better suited for pure mongers.

I could see Barcelona being more of the place for travel fun/p6 as an option.

Leaving out Terms, how is the general scene in Sao Paolo, Brazil?

Is it similar? More of a night time gig after doing other stuff during the day?

I've heard there is more of European look girls of various background in those parts? Is that pretty significant compared to the terms?

Also, what is the pricing, and what is included in a typical session? Extras (as considered in De) typically provided in the agreed price? Is is more like Bazar, negotiate prices? Is there services provided commonly on a session to be called "standard?" Do you take girls back to the hotel or are rooms provided in the venues at Sao Paolo?

[PussyLiccker]

Reading reviews and seeing links works well for me even if the face is blurred out. I am more concerned with body. As long as the photos are relatively recent and not over-photoshopped, I can still be 80% confident that I will be happy with the WG once I see her in person. Other guys are more face-oriented, and put a lot more emphasis on "chemistry".

Images are snippet of time(is it current?), not wholly a reality, but yeah, face has lots of importance, it's gamble.

Also, look at Globe's airbrushed for example, it's far away from reality. Depends on currentsy and how much the image portreys the reality.

They will try to impress with best images. Also, scamming of fake images are possible if not a reputable agency.

[The Cane]

There's a tiny difference between shopping for a book online at Amazon and having it sent home to read it and booking a hooker online. Most mongers wouldn't want her to be "delivered" to their homes with the wife and kids around. LOL. Or to book a hotel room. The clubs are providing the platform where girls and boys can meet, talk to each other, there's a big choice of girls depending on the size of the club, there's a certain standard to the service and probably most important for the guys is the wysiwyg effect.

HB.

I agree, and I think the difference is more than just a tiny one. I mean, some things just work better and the experience is enhanced with more human interaction versus less. And, I think selecting a female who you want to stick your dick inside of is one of them! Sometimes maybe there is no good alternative to online. Maybe it's all illegal where you're at for example, so you can't go to a club. But anytime you can indeed provide a more open platform for boys and girls to get together and mingle as HB puts it, then I think overall the chances are raised for achieving a better result for everybody involved, tutes and mongers alike.

And, the FKK platform addresses some of the concerns that the opponents of prostitution raise, such as the physical safety of the girls, keeping it off the streets and out of view behind closed doors, and even cleanliness and sanitation at the clubs that are well-maintained. And yet, you have some opponents of the world's oldest profession who will never stop preaching against it because they are at their very core opposed to P4 P in any form or fashion. For these people, FKK clubs or online or on the street, they see no basic difference in the end, and won't be happy until there is no prostitution. Well, good luck with that! Strangers want to fuck each other, and no matter what, they will find a way to do that, including pay for play! That's why it's called the world's oldest profession!