German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[Pistons]

Did all the 5 initial points go through? Or did anything get changed? The only ways it affect us was the condoms right?

Anyway, I can see certain things being done to work against that issue. The FKKs might install locks from the inside of all rooms for example... or would that work against the safety of the girls too much perhaps?

How about breakable XXXL condoms?

[ShoesAndSocks]

When I google it, I only find links to a German ra$e law. Don't see any mentions of new prostitution regulations including condoms.

This article translated well for me ...

https://www.aidshilfe.de/meldung/bun...enschutzgesetz.

Dated July 8th, the opening paragraphs translated to (emphasis mine) ...

"Contrary to the criticism of sex workers and other Expert_innen and against the vote of the opposition, the Bundestag has adopted the draft of a so-called prostitutes Protection Act yesterday.

With the "Law on Regulation of Prostitution trade and the protection of persons working in prostitution persons" should, according to the lead Federal Ministry of Women, the "self-determination of people in prostitution" strengthened "acceptable working conditions" created and "dangerous excesses and attendant crime by better monitoring opportunities authorities "are suppressed. The amendment, which will come into force in 2017, provides inter alia for the introduction of a license requirement for Betreiber_innen of prostitution sites, a notification and consultation requirements for sex workers as well as a condom requirement."

A sad day for Germany, but perhaps a windfall for Austrian and Swiss (sex) tourism?

Western democracy seems to be having a run of disasters. Brexit, Australian federal election, and now this. What's next, President Trump?

[Mr Ho]

Yes Germany's day of shame has arrived and the insane new anti sex work law has been past in the Bundestag.

https://twitter.com/hashtag/ProstSchG?src=hash

http://sputniknews.com/art_living/20...-problems.html

So what does this mean? No more same FKK as it was or it will remain the same?

[Member #4581]

Thanks.

When I google it, I only find links to a German ra$e law. Don't see any mentions of new prostitution regulations including condoms.

Any links to the actual text?

Yes Germany's day of shame has arrived and the insane new anti sex work law has been past in the Bundestag.

https://twitter.com/hashtag/ProstSchG?src=hash

http://sputniknews.com/art_living/20...-problems.html

[Wild Man]

Yes Germany's day of shame has arrived and the insane new anti sex work law has been past in the Bundestag.

https://twitter.com/hashtag/ProstSchG?src=hash

http://sputniknews.com/art_living/20...-problems.html

[Jimmy Boy 99]

I will be in Franfurt area starting July 15th. My current plan is Oase on Friday the 15th, World on Saturday, Sharks on Sunday, Sharks on Wednesday, and Mainhattan on Thursday. I am trying to decide whether to go to Oase on Monday and Rom / Atlanta on Tuesday, or the reverse. Any opinions on which order would have the best lineup would be appreciated. Thanks.

[Takedown]

The only answer is to ignore them. A working girl cannot expect to control their customers in order to deal with their emotional needs. What price your relationship with this girl if she cannot handle who you are.

I agree with this completely. My only suggestion is to making sure that the last session is with the relationship girl even if you have already gone with her before. I usually stay to near closing time so it is usually her last session also. This way at least both parties can go home a little happier knowing that you were each other's last sessions.

[Optimist]

I won't name names but I have a good relationship going with this one girl in the club. I also find her best friend attractive and really like to session with her. What do you think it would be, afterward, if I take her friend to the room? I know I would ask her if she approves and of course she will say yes. But still, deep down, I'm pretty sure they will be like WTF.

Even if she says it is ok, you will probably get disappointed looks. It isn't even a question of just trying to secure their income.

For example a girl who no longer works expressed huge disappointment that I was still going to clubs even though she is no longer there.

It happens even with girls who one has only just met. I went to a club and couldn't persuade her to come in on her day off, but she then (while on her day off) asked in disappointed tones if I had gone to the club while she wasn't there and who I had gone with.

The only answer is to ignore them. A working girl cannot expect to control their customers in order to deal with their emotional needs. What price your relationship with this girl if she cannot handle who you are.

[Pistons]

Just tossing out ideas here, but what if it boils down to childbearing? A women having to bear a child, while the men can run away during the pregnancy (if only in theory, or in age gone past, what do we know? So all this leads to the female not feeling secure about the condom holding while doing this 'job'. At the same time their instincts works against them because the instincts haven't caught up with modern day technology (plastics etc). And maybe it is also part because most countries don't have equality between men and women. Higher salaries for men etc etc. Interestingly the only countries in the world with higher average salaries for women is where prostitution runs wild. But maybe when income is bad and the waistline index is low, they get more protective, and defensive. In that case, some here might be in for more trouble than whats good.

But where would that end? Gonna leave this one blank.

[XXL]

Also, we are not really genetically programmed to only like one girl. That is a societal construct we have to fight all the time given our resistant genes who only want to spread our seeds as much as possible.

That's it in a nuttshell. Women are hypergamous and men are promiscuous. Some men are worse than others in this respect. I for one tend to go off a girl as soon as I get chummy with her. Same in my private life. For me to want to fuck someone she has to be a "stranger".

[Pistons]

This is a very iffy discussion. There seems to be some universal laws regarding this, but I don't know a solution. I just have to throw in that I agree it sucks. LOL.

The thing is just that there are lots of hot girls in these clubs and it is not easy to be faithful when they all try to seduce you, are naked and basically look quite good as well. To them it is a job, and they have a reason to go with 100 guys. But for us, it is not a job, and we pay for it. For the girls they therefore feel we give from ourselves to a different girl than them. But on the other side, some girls turn down some guys, and given that the girls can also choose to some degree, then that would make our 'excuse' just as valid wouldn't it?

Also, we are not really genetically programmed to only like one girl. That is a societal construct we have to fight all the time given our resistant genes who only want to spread our seeds as much as possible. Now does it mean we like the first girls any less? Not at all. It just means we want some variation in our sex life. Like taking a new roller coaster. But we still have our membership cards on the 'Crazy Griffon Coaster' because it will always make us gasp for air.

It also does not always help that the girls use their same fixed approach every time. And where does acting end and relationships begin? We do after all pay for the sex. A relationship is usually related to free sex. Although paying for a night out can sometimes be just as expensive.

[ShoesAndSocks]

I won't name names but I have a good relationship going with this one girl in the club. I also find her best friend attractive and really like to session with her. What do you think it would be, afterward, if I take her friend to the room? I know I would ask her if she approves and of course she will say yes. But still, deep down, I'm pretty sure they will be like WTF.

The fact you're hesitant and asking for opinions isn't a good sign. Based on my experience, it could go badly on a number of levels.

Did my friend seduce you, "my" regular client? (possible strained friendship). Are you bored with me? Is my friend more attractive than me? (end of good times with her). We're dealing with sensitive young creatures here.

I'd have a really good think about how important the current relationship is to you. You might end up wishing you'd managed to avoid one of the never-ending times these clubs throw temptation your way.

I've had "if looks could kill" indignation from girls simply because I've moved on and fancied others who they have no relationship with. There's no turning back in those cases.

[BadinSweet]

I won't name names but I have a good relationship going with this one girl in the club. I also find her best friend attractive and really like to session with her. What do you think it would be, afterward, if I take her friend to the room? I know I would ask her if she approves and of course she will say yes. But still, deep down, I'm pretty sure they will be like WTF.

[Wild Man]

This article indicates that the vote was held yesterday, Thursday. The central focus of the article is sex workers rightful anger at registration and identification requirements.

https://www.opendemocracy.net/beyond...ntification-in

[Mr Ho]

If these girls are out there for the world to see on webcams, one wonders why they are so sensitive to being photographed or videoed in the room for a private memento by the punter.

Obviously, we understand not all the girls were ex webcam girls.

They have boyfriend and in some or many cases they even have kids by looking at their facebook.

A lot of web cam girls seems to do their things with their boyfriends, not with customers or male porn actors.