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[TraLaLax]

I know it's a rookie mistake, but I still develop feelings for girls from time to time. Especially if the girl is very good at her job and I felt a connection with her. I know it's not real, and I know it's not going anywhere. But I still can't stop how I feel. I guess I'm just a hopeless romantic.

Does anyone also find themselves in the same situations, every once in a while?

It's natural, and it has happened to me as well. We are genetically programmed to form bonds with women we have sex with.

[Pistons]

Unfortunately, lies and propaganda (machiavellianism) is the truest sign of bad leadership. So we are heading straight for another collapse given how every country on earth follow Machiavelli's parody like a bible.

[Pistons]

I kind of agree with some of what Phallus writes regarding the currencies. But the other stuff, like 99% of what we hear in MSM is all just gibberish and fluff.

Yes there will be a new currency. Yes Russia can be blamed for it given the war and the new trade in other currencies than the dollar, but that at it's core is a lie. Since it would be a new global currency anyway. So now we in the west just have another excuse for it than the abolishment on the goldstandard and the eventual crash due to the interest on loan, which is set to happen by 2025 anyway.

So just like the covid was used as an excuse to cover up fiscal policies related to the repo loan payouts, this war will be used as an excuse to cover up the fiscal policies related to the 2025 new currency. Both things false, and both things inevitable related to interest on loans ponzi scheme globally, and how money is created.

Only a digital new currency can change this mathematical puzzle which has been with us since ancient Greece and even before then. With the collapse of various hegemonial currencies on a timer. Just study economic history going millenniums back and you know how wars are always used as coverups for this as exact as nuclear clockworks.

Only the idiots believe Russia and the west are real enemies. But most people are idiots. 99.99999%.

The world is nothing more than a testbed of different ruling regimes in the ongoing effort to propell innovation and new technologies. And then from time to time we need to flip things around because capitalism while being efficient in innovation, also is the greatest depopulation scheme of them all.

The earth has had 5 technological golden ages in the past. All ruined by cataclysms where aliens (other humans) have wiped us out and sending us back to a stoneage because of bad leadership. Will we reach a 6th golden age? With acceptable leaders? Or will we collapse while still at bronze or Silver? Before the last golden age collapse we had technology to build the pyramids. Now we don't. But people think we are advanced.

Nicola Tesla wanted to bring wireless power transfer with the electromagnetic zenneck wave spectrum to the world. Like all the previous golden ages used. But CIA stopped him and killed him because Thomas Edison and his bankers the Morgans didn't have a way of monetizing it. Internet of things is the new idea we have today in order to monetize wireless power transfer. And blockchains are a part of that. The extended timespan before the introduction of the zenneck wave power transfer might also have had technological benefits in which might have missed if we had introduced it earlier as well. So not every bad thing is only bad. Monetization on the other had is always bad if there are options that has the same end goal: turning us into a more advanced civilization. Leaving this planet.

[Mr Ho]

Warning: I'm no historian or expert. But a few things stand out. The first is the idiocy of Germany shutting down nukes and being energy dependent. That can be reversed (except politics) and France seems to be doing the opposite of building more nukes, which is just as well for grid security. Yeah, Russia is a mess, it was a shithole in the 1990's and now has a government only on paper, essentially a bunch of rich guys sticking their stolen money in the UK etc via various shells the big banks and law firms help launder. Like South America, they don't trust keeping anything much there, as politics can change overnight. I'm not surprised that the Russian military is fucked up. It exists to wave around flags, jingoism and other bullshit to con the population about some common purpose rather than their real status as sheep to be shorn. Ukraine (not that long ago a puppet state of the USSR) is also a basket case or corruption and people not believing the future. So far the Russian army seems pretty feeble, but hey, Ukraine is even more feeble. As other have said here, Russia's bargaining chips are shutting off gas / oil pipeline and nukes. But that misses the elephant in the room.

My take is that Russian and China have seen the dollar weaponized and are scared shitless. But they have a huge cudgel if they cooperate. Simply create a new currency and price oil in that. They have the pipelines to Europe, Siberia, Iran and the warm water ports. And unlike Iraq pricing in Euros that got it invaded, they guys have nukes and cannot easily be fucked with by uncle sam. Make it digital would be even worse. It would be a true nuclear option and could collapse the dollar and many casinos. Western banks and their central banks. And I suspect this is going to happen sooner than many think. Russia and India just inked such a bilateral deal..

G7 nations will always dominate this world and now that UK coming close to Japan to make alliance as after leaving EU and if such alliance happen, Japan and US already have the strongest alliance in the whole world and UK on top of that will create the biggest alliance in whole human history! But Japan do not want to participate in bang bang theory of US and UK, we no longer like shooting guns, but we do not mind paying billions or give them support with our superior technology!

Russia is just a bad children with old technology toys called nuclear weapons, but small nation for the rest and as for energy we already have the answer for the future hydrogen more than electricity for mobility!

What surprise me is how the hell governments let digital currencies to happen! It should be illegalized to keep the power to the state!

Also the question is what to do with India and China, especially China, Russians are stupid, but China and India, do not underestimate their capability! They do not have quality yet, but soon or later, they will and with their crazy population size and brain that is not that bad can be challenging for the G7 nations!

G7 nations are friendliest pact, especially US, Japan are real tight and now UK is coming, so close it is good thing for the world!

As for eastern Europe, it is amazing place to fuck themselves up, cause chaos and then it result in amazing line up of mongering industry! You like fucking Romanian stunners? Well thanks to soviet union fucking up and it root back to Lenin doing crazy revolution LOL!

[Pahllus Maximus]

Warning: I'm no historian or expert. But a few things stand out. The first is the idiocy of Germany shutting down nukes and being energy dependent. That can be reversed (except politics) and France seems to be doing the opposite of building more nukes, which is just as well for grid security. Yeah, Russia is a mess, it was a shithole in the 1990's and now has a government only on paper, essentially a bunch of rich guys sticking their stolen money in the UK etc via various shells the big banks and law firms help launder. Like South America, they don't trust keeping anything much there, as politics can change overnight. I'm not surprised that the Russian military is fucked up. It exists to wave around flags, jingoism and other bullshit to con the population about some common purpose rather than their real status as sheep to be shorn. Ukraine (not that long ago a puppet state of the USSR) is also a basket case or corruption and people not believing the future. So far the Russian army seems pretty feeble, but hey, Ukraine is even more feeble. As other have said here, Russia's bargaining chips are shutting off gas / oil pipeline and nukes. But that misses the elephant in the room.

My take is that Russian and China have seen the dollar weaponized and are scared shitless. But they have a huge cudgel if they cooperate. Simply create a new currency and price oil in that. They have the pipelines to Europe, Siberia, Iran and the warm water ports. And unlike Iraq pricing in Euros that got it invaded, they guys have nukes and cannot easily be fucked with by uncle sam. Make it digital would be even worse. It would be a true nuclear option and could collapse the dollar and many casinos. Western banks and their central banks. And I suspect this is going to happen sooner than many think. Russia and India just inked such a bilateral deal.

As for Ukraine, not sure what Putin had in mind other than as a buffer, still thinking like 1940. I've lived in eastern europe on and off since the 1980's. Here my very amateur impressions. The first is that the land mass labelled "Ukraine" on maps has changed hands every few decades, being variously part of Poland, Hungary, Russia and Czeque and various other fiefdoms. Secondly that that it's people were especially petty, cruel and thuggish to the jews in WWII, though the same can be said of Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia and Hungary (LLEUH). The mass murder was motivated by theft: the racial thing was just a fig leaf to rationalize straight up stealing and looting and unearned wealth. Some interesting stuff has come out from decrypted enigma in recent years and serious historians like Martin Gilbert who linked it together. He also somehow got access to post 1990 soviet archives (that included captured German records) and translated and analyzed it. Bear with me on this! I was surprised to learn the German Einsatzgruppen (SS) found LLEUH methods too savage, brutal and crude, even by their deranged barbaric standards. Latvia and Ukraine kept getting special mention.

Official SS correspondence back to Berlin queried how they could behave like that. They came up with the answer that people in the east were human only in form. That neatly tied in with their racial ideas. The SS certainly knew it was thievery of their (soon to be dead) victims that truly motivated their newly discovered pro-nazi passions and made up nationalist myths. The joke was on them. They were used by the SS who never saw them as equals, but merely useful in the short term before being made into peasant serfs for the glorious third reich. Of course it is much more complex than that: various ethnic and / or religious / nationalist jingo mind con-games allowed manipulation of the population (per standard bag of tricks). By 1945 what was left of their territory was wrecked and depopulated and the usual rape and pillage. Soviet factories and farming methods and Stalin's terror wrecked it further and the dead hand of soviet style poverty and surveillance (that we label communism).

My own take it that it's like some sort of magic thinking culture and instant gratification in the "eastern" mindset (I know, a huge generalization, but hey, it fits the general pattern). Usually a led by a strong man, it allows a situation to con people to think prosperity can be achieved by a method other than by consistent hard work, education, rationality, stable property rights and predictability that lifts everybody's boats. Gaining wealth is more or less by theft (dressed up as something else). Instead it's like live for today only. It strikes me that the love of flashy consumer goods luxury glitter, leopard skin prints and etc symbolism is like a rip-off for the real thing. Putin may be as a simple as that, they old kleptocracy mindset and a bit of faded glory propaganda to toss to the population to keep them distracted. Even if Ukraine is swallowed, it is more degraded stuff grafted onto degraded Russia that let's not forget was a puppet state of the old USSR until 1991 ish. Not a lot changed except the local mob franchise owners. All the flag waving distracts from the real elites that control the purse. The west is the same. The entire neo-con thing is about loot and leave the population the crumbs, same as the old soviets, and indeed most of human history.

But do watch the (future) oil currency. That's the real game. Weaponizing SWIFT and the dollar is an inflection point that could easily derail the euro and dollar. We need to preserve real wealth so we can access beautiful young women.

[YodaXxx]

I know it's a rookie mistake, but I still develop feelings for girls from time to time. Especially if the girl is very good at her job and I felt a connection with her. I know it's not real, and I know it's not going anywhere. But I still can't stop how I feel. I guess I'm just a hopeless romantic.

Does anyone also find themselves in the same situations, every once in a while?

[CamLaCam]

I was 3 days at Mainhattan last week.
I had 8 sessions with regular girls.
Paid 60 Euro per session.
Extremely satisfied.
Mainhattan is a good alternative if you want to combine sex with relax.

For 60 euros, I assume it is 30 minutes.

What is included? Which services (kissing, DATY, OWO) ?

Out of the 20 girls, how many are attractive?

[Arnold15]

I'm also heading back for the first time since COVID. I have been really looking forward to it, but in reading all the posts, it seems like things have changed a lot and for the worse.

My previous frequent clubs were Golden Time (shut down / converted! Sharks (double the price! Babylon (price increase and poor line-up), and Oase (double price and so-so line-up) - none of these sound like a great situation. I will probably just head to Sharks and pay 2 X, but are there any clubs with no or modest price increase and a reasonable line-up?

I was 3 days at Mainhattan last week.

I had 8 sessions with regular girls.

Paid 60 Euro per session.

Extremely satisfied.

Wednesday ("Sauna day"), Friday and Saturday: 25-30 girls.

Other days: 15-20 girls.

Mainhattan is a good alternative if you want to combine sex with relax.

[CamLaCam]

Dear all,

I want to visit the FKK in Frankfurt. I am wondering which FKK to visit.

I am looking, as many of us, for girls who are slim, young (<25 years old), not vulgar, no silicon, no tattoos for just a few.

Which FKK do you recommend?

For services, I am looking for GFE: DFK, DATY, OWO.

So far, I have visited the red light district with many ugly girls (old, super fat) and few girls ok. Unfortunately there is no hygien in the red light district (no shower, before or after). So I prefer to go only in FKK.

According to the previous messages, there may be around 80-100 girls in a big FKK, with one third young and slim. Is this correct?

[Sirioja]

I'm also heading back for the first time since COVID. I have been really looking forward to it, but in reading all the posts, it seems like things have changed a lot and for the worse.

My previous frequent clubs were Golden Time (shut down / converted! Sharks (double the price! Babylon (price increase and poor line-up), and Oase (double price and so-so line-up) - none of these sound like a great situation. I will probably just head to Sharks and pay 2 X, but are there any clubs with no or modest price increase and a reasonable line-up?

Bruggen is finished, licence is now at Oceans. Kaarst should also be finished. Sharks is now number 1 but don t mean for quality. I have a great woman at Gold and Natalia and Eli would be the prettiest at Sharks for half rate. Penelope is also interesting. 6 ens NL also even my last visits were not good but on Sunday, better to go on Friday. Waiting for YY reopening and will see for Goldengate ex Vertigo. FKK land still have potential when I discovered 3 really high level girls for me on this year, far higher level than at Sharks or Globe, after a really good 2021 , and 35 yo Megan. Ro ex expensive Casa Bianca Innsbruck and Babylon Vienna was really interesting as woman yesterday at FKK Atlantis. At, even not fair for her to compete with my immaculate virgin Swiss on previous day. Still high potential making me spend too much, 1000 for my Swiss discovery in less than 1 week, I m failing for professionnalism controlling. I will keep on relaxing my right leg on autobahns and my left when kicking in brakes.

[Sammi123]

I'm also heading back for the first time since COVID. I have been really looking forward to it, but in reading all the posts, it seems like things have changed a lot and for the worse.

My previous frequent clubs were Golden Time (shut down / converted! Sharks (double the price! Babylon (price increase and poor line-up), and Oase (double price and so-so line-up) - none of these sound like a great situation. I will probably just head to Sharks and pay 2 X, but are there any clubs with no or modest price increase and a reasonable line-up?

[Mr Ho]

I always try to mix it up with something old and something new. Keep it interesting! You know? For my next trip (whenever it happens), I've decided that I really want to hit Munich again. I like that city the most of all the ones I have visited in Germany, and there are a lot of clubs there I would like to check out. Only you can decide for yourself, but I would suggest leaning towards a little discovery. You know the places you like, so go to some of those. But, don't just keep going back to the same well again and again and again. Like Mr. Ho LOL! No, get out there and both rediscover the old and discover something new too! That's how you keep it interesting.

As a sharp shooter, I keep my station secure, I do not even want to goto toilet to take some leak, but the same place, different line up as girls rotate around through all FKK including zurich ones, austrican ones and german ones, so I figured keeping it to few FKK near the city center increase the probability for me to locate the stunners, but one thing is that I do 2 different clubs as line up only change on weekly basis, but I have done Hessen and NRW clubs mix trip and I may do that again soon as Hessen and Nrw are good mix into one trip as ICE train can take you so easily to commute between my offices in both Frankfurt head offices to the NRW branch offices LOL! I even flew once from my Berlin Westkreuz head office to globe branch office that turns out to be head office as well LOL! I keep my offices limited based on availability of stunners LOL! One thing I hate is to go all the way and get dissapointed with the line up like now gone GT bruggen office, that place had almost no stunners! But good FKK set up with outside garden and good russian borsch soup for FKK!

[The Cane]

Would be very interested to hear from particularly those who travel around as to which options you would select. Thanks in advance for the suggestions.

I always try to mix it up with something old and something new. Keep it interesting! You know? For my next trip (whenever it happens), I've decided that I really want to hit Munich again. I like that city the most of all the ones I have visited in Germany, and there are a lot of clubs there I would like to check out. Only you can decide for yourself, but I would suggest leaning towards a little discovery. You know the places you like, so go to some of those. But, don't just keep going back to the same well again and again and again. Like Mr. Ho LOL! No, get out there and both rediscover the old and discover something new too! That's how you keep it interesting.

[XXL]

1) Is it common to bring a small travel size pack of shower gel, comb, mouthwash, etc or do you guys not bother with that stuff? Also is it okay to bring your own condoms or is it a "you have to use the rubbers provided" type thing?

2) I don't find much discussion about filming the girls in the room and if that's acceptable there to negotiate this or is it a complete no (of course I'm sure there would be a cost).

3) I'm assuming that the majority (if not all) the negotiations happen before the room? And I'm assuming that just like in Tijuana, you don't necessarily have to buy a drink for a girl unless you want to have conversation with them (IE. You can just go up to a girl, not buy her a drink, negotiate what you want and if she accepts go straight to the room).

4) I couldn't find anything but I'm also assuming as in the CDMX and Tijuana it is customary to pay after the services are given and not before?

Looking forward to posting some reviews when I get back.

1) Shower gel is always and mouthwash often provided free. If you use a special condom like Sagami better tell the girl beforehand otherwise one out of twenty girls will refuse your condom in the room.

2) No filming in the club but inside the room it's up to you and the girl.

3) Assumption correct on all counts.

4) You pay after from your wallet kept in the locker. You don't bring money into the room.

[PayForIt]

So I have an upcoming business trip to Germany and a wonderful 6 nights free to enjoy FKKs before heading off again.

Past trips of this kind usually involve me hitting Frankfurt and doing one night in each of Sharks / Oase / Palace / Mainhattan / and a final night in the club I believe the best LU was in, or even World. I am wondering about doing something different this time.

I have no issue in travelling by day, and mongering by night! Previous clubs for me include Atmos, Harmony and Babylon (Hamburg), Oceans in theüsseldorf, Living Room (never again), Samya Cologne, Artemis Berlin (many many times) Paradise Stuttgart, Sakura Boblingen and Sunshine in Munich and even Romer in Dresden.

I've never been to Sixens, Bernds, Acapulco, Acapulco Gold or Golden Time.

Whilst I do have a flight booked back from Frankfurt, it is cheap and I could change it. I am completely unrestricted so am happy to be anywhere from the border with NL down to Munich / Salzburg or east to Dresden / Prague.

I am really interested to know what experienced and senior members of the FKK forums would do with these 6 days in June when the weather should be good.

Do I (1) stick to the usual plan. Maybe do one club outside Hessen and just sample them all yet again. I have been to them so many times I am half tempted to venture further afield. But then in the good weather the gardens in Oase and Sharks are obviously tempting.

(2) Do I sample clubs I've never been to? If yes, which ones would you say are "must go to" clubs?

I'm currently thinking (Monday night FKK Sunshine and Laierkausten in Munich). Tuesday train to FRA. Tuesday night in Palace (likely with Jennifer). Wednesday up to Samya. Thursday Oceans, Friday Sharks, Saturday Oase.

The alternative is to start in Hamburg at 2 of the above, then to Berlin then To FRA.

But neither of those plans take me to a single club I have not previously been to. But then sometimes better the devil you know and new pastures might not be worth the trip.

Would be very interested to hear from particularly those who travel around as to which options you would select. Thanks in advance for the suggestions.