German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[PussyLiccker]

Western European countries and Scandinavian countries have the highest tax rates-above 40% if the individual is making about $50 K USD or more. Romania I believe just has a flat tax of 15 or 16 percent for all incomes. Normally, you are expected to pay taxes in the country where you are working and earning money--coming from an EU country like Romania or a non-EU country like India shouldn't change that fact.

South European countries have a reputation for being more corrupt. I suspect it is easier to evade the tax authorities there, because everybody in those countries is dodging their taxes.

I can see why certain services for the girls would become available. 40% is huge chunk taken off if you report, and if the options are available for cash earners to reduce that significantly, more money for her. Significant portion of WGs are Ro, so with this, there are business opportunities to be had for this. I don't see why you'd roll up the bills and shove it somewhere, as you can put it in other places. I'm curious if there are any risks with border control. I wouldn't think driving would have risk, but perhaps flying?

[McAdonis]

What is the tax rules for non German EU citizens working in Germany. I don't know if there is a substantial tax rate difference between Germna tax rate and Romanian tax rate, and do these Romanian girls have to pay taxes in Romania or in Germany?

Anyway, 100 grand is not a humongous amount of income. With deductions etc, I don't know what is the net tax a girl would have to pay. It seems idiotic that these girls would risk so much just to avoid paying taxes. Perhaps this is a European thing or a Romanian thing. Why risk getting caught, thrown into jail, banned from the country, fall prey to mafioso managers, risk theft from their lockers, not to mention traveling thousands of miles with euro stuffed pussies and holding back bathroom?

One single incident of theft in a year might cover some or much of their taxes. And not everyone makes a hundred grand, and at lower incomes, tax rates should be lower.

Western European countries and Scandinavian countries have the highest tax rates-above 40% if the individual is making about $50 K USD or more. Romania I believe just has a flat tax of 15 or 16 percent for all incomes. Normally, you are expected to pay taxes in the country where you are working and earning money--coming from an EU country like Romania or a non-EU country like India shouldn't change that fact.

South European countries have a reputation for being more corrupt. I suspect it is easier to evade the tax authorities there, because everybody in those countries is dodging their taxes.

[Member #4581]

I guess these girls are not scared of a condom break, LOL.

If ever the tax guys start investigating and follow the trail of these 500 euro bills, the pussy DNA on the bill should be easy to track down.

[Member #4581]

What is the tax rules for non German EU citizens working in Germany. I don't know if there is a substantial tax rate difference between Germna tax rate and Romanian tax rate, and do these Romanian girls have to pay taxes in Romania or in Germany?

Anyway, 100 grand is not a humongous amount of income. With deductions etc, I don't know what is the net tax a girl would have to pay. It seems idiotic that these girls would risk so much just to avoid paying taxes. Perhaps this is a European thing or a Romanian thing. Why risk getting caught, thrown into jail, banned from the country, fall prey to mafioso managers, risk theft from their lockers, not to mention traveling thousands of miles with euro stuffed pussies and holding back bathroom?

One single incident of theft in a year might cover some or much of their taxes. And not everyone makes a hundred grand, and at lower incomes, tax rates should be lower.

[Skeden80]

I like the small, more intimate FKK clubs. Especially where sex can be had in the open (I. E. Not only in private rooms) so the other girls and guests can watch from pretty close. It just turns me on somehow. Anyone have some recommendations?

I'd say Oase. Both the sofas in kino (as someone else wrote) are good for sex in the open, but also the outdoor area when weather is beautiful.

Have fun!

[Jymondor]

Some girls change bigger amounts into 500 bills, roll then up, put them in a condom, shove it up their pussy and bring it home.

Yeah, this is really hard-working part of the body.

[Hessen Bub]

Storing the money safely while working is an issue. Money gets stolen over and over again. I've heard about ranges from 2,000€ to 20,000€ that were stolen from girls lockers.

I've been to the bank with girls changing 50/100€ bills to 500€ bills. They never were asked for ID. That was a bank in a rather small close to a big club, so employees will know where the money came from when Romanian girls asked to have it changed.

HB.

[McAdonis]

Some girls change bigger amounts into 500 bills, roll then up, put them in a condom, shove it up their pussy and bring it home. I know a girl who did this with a large sum. Her pussy wasn't that big, but she managed well. LOL.

HB.

Care to share the range for how large this sum was? LOL.

How many hours do they have to keep that money there?

[McAdonis]

Girls transfer a part of the money via WU. The bigger portion often is brought to Romania personally. Some girls change bigger amounts into 500 bills, roll then up, put them in a condom, shove it up their pussy and bring it home. I know a girl who did this with a large sum. Her pussy wasn't that big, but she managed well. LOL.

Will German banks change smaller denominations into 500 EUR notes without hassle? Do the girls have to show their passports for these transactions? At some point they will change the 500 EUR notes back into smaller denominations again or exchange for lei. Those 500 EUR bills would draw too much attention or arouse suspicion because most people associate them with criminal activity. The exchange must go through blacker markets, no?

The other question is where do they keep their money while they are on-shift? Some of these girls work 80 hours a week, and supposedly they share a flat with three other WGs. So there could be 20000+ EUR there sitting there. That makes them a target for opportunist criminals. Unless of course they have hired "security".

Doing the math, some have estimated that girls might make 100K per year and lets say they make 5 trips home a year. I am guessing they wire at most 10K via WU. That means each trip they are moving between 15-20K per trip. I guess that's manageable by themselves.

[Hessen Bub]

If a girl is not registered as a WG with the German tax authorities she will have to make the daily 25€ down payment, if she's German or not doesn't matter. If she does an income statement and her taxes the advance payments she has done will be taken off her tax debt. Most girls don't register.

Girls transfer a part of the money via WU. The bigger portion often is brought to Romania personally. Some girls change bigger amounts into 500€ bills, roll then up, put them in a condom, shove it up their pussy and bring it home. I know a girl who did this with a large sum. Her pussy wasn't that big, but she managed well. LOL.

HB.

[DrDoGood]

I happened to be present on one of the couch action days last summer. The girl I was with (who was not the designated couch-actioner for that day) told me that they only select known customers whom they are certain will cum, and whom they know would provide non-stop action. She ruled me out ever being selected as I am the slow GFE type who would put spectators to sleep!

On normal days, public blow jobs are common. They will even do it right next to you or in front of you. Public sex is less common and I have only seen it done on the basement couches or stools (doggie position). You can also do it in the basement room with the glass wall, where all others can see you and, if I heard correctly, can also request to join in.

Thanks for all the great input guys. I had almost forgotten about Bernd's. It's actually pretty close to what I'm looking for. Also just stumbled upon www.luder-lounge.de which looks really small and intimate. Will have to try that one out. Well, only so much you can figure out from the arm chair, sometimes you need to just go ahead and move to the, ehh, couch.

[TankTank123]

They still have Couch-Aktion-Tag. The last one was on April 10. (I was able to attend.) It didn't seem a lot different than an average day to me. If you were selected by one of the girls and agreed to the couch action, the club picked up the fee. (I wasn't selected, oh well) Looking back at their twitter feed, they have the day once or twice a year. Public sex at Bernds happens, if you're interested all you have to do is ask and you'll find a willing partner.

I happened to be present on one of the couch action days last summer. The girl I was with (who was not the designated couch-actioner for that day) told me that they only select known customers whom they are certain will cum, and whom they know would provide non-stop action. She ruled me out ever being selected as I am the slow GFE type who would put spectators to sleep!

On normal days, public blow jobs are common. They will even do it right next to you or in front of you. Public sex is less common and I have only seen it done on the basement couches or stools (doggie position). You can also do it in the basement room with the glass wall, where all others can see you and, if I heard correctly, can also request to join in.

[Boomer10]

Check the Bernds thread. It's a house. Literally with a basement, and little bar, and looks like a normal home inside. Awhile back, I've heard they have times when they promote public sex, and the session will be on the house. Not sure if it still happens. I think it was the most intimate atmosphere I've ever been, and can't Imagine getting anymore than that.

They still have Couch-Aktion-Tag. The last one was on April 10. (I was able to attend.) It didn't seem a lot different than an average day to me. If you were selected by one of the girls and agreed to the couch action, the club picked up the fee. (I wasn't selected, oh well) Looking back at their twitter feed, they have the day once or twice a year. Public sex at Bernds happens, if you're interested all you have to do is ask and you'll find a willing partner.

[PussyLiccker]

I like the small, more intimate FKK clubs. Especially where sex can be had in the open (I. E. Not only in private rooms) so the other girls and guests can watch from pretty close. It just turns me on somehow. Anyone have some recommendations?

I have tried Blue Note in Dusseldorf. It was pretty small but is now closed. Also, I once tried Eva's Club Tabulos in Mnchengladbach which was tiny. Just room for 6-8 people in couches around a coffee table. That size was perfect (although not into the sex without condom that was offered). This club closed a few years ago, so looking for alternatives. It could be partytreff clubs also, but I tend to prefer the FKKs. Anyone?

Check the Bernds thread. It's a house. Literally with a basement, and little bar, and looks like a normal home inside. Awhile back, I've heard they have times when they promote public sex, and the session will be on the house. Not sure if it still happens. I think it was the most intimate atmosphere I've ever been, and can't Imagine getting anymore than that.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Sounds like partytreff clubs and some of the AO clubs are more your style since they have plenty of public sex. Check out those threads / forums. Maybe a place like Totalclub Osnabruck.

As for public sex in FKK's it happens but not frequently.

He can fuck in the kino of any FKK, if the girl is willing, although the kino at Oase will be the most public of the ones that I am aware of.