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[StarletVoyager]

Last April there was a german girl who chatted to me for over 2 hours without moving on a busy night in artemis. She did nothing to try and instigate a room session until I said lets go and once in the room I put 4 fingers in her and nearly my whole fist uncovered and she loved it (thats not an ego thing).. Anyway for you guys out there that love the finger thing there is a sure fire way to get those fingers in for free. I would say that on my last frankfurt tour out of around 10 girls I went with a good 6 to 7 of them let me insert up to 3 fingers a time with delight. How? Simply I asked if I could do it with a condomn on my fingers and mostly they were fine with that and you can see they like that.

Anyway to the main reason for my post. Since 2008/9 I have had 12 lovely fkk holidays. I'd have gone more if money permitted it. Anyway the majority of those trips have been to frankfurt but I have been to zurich and berlin and koln as well. Now I am planning a December trip and looking for variety. The natural choices left to do would be dusseldorf properly but FKK GT in VIENNA keeps appearing on the options list time after time. For some reason however I am hesitant to book. Ok it would be great to be in austria for the first time. I have been ploughing this section and the vienna section trying hard to find out what the girls in GT vienna are like only to get completely opposing ideas time after time. Some say vienna gt girls are very hot some say they are less diverse than germany and say artemis for eg is far better. Is there anyone out there who can give me the TRUE low down of this? I'm not too bothered if the number of girls is a little less lower in gt as long as they are as hot as the big german fkk club girls. As default nrw or artemis will be my destination unless something interesting about gt vienna arises (which I hope) as the tourism and pussy mix would be great in austria. My credit card is ready to book flights if only I knew where to go this time. Many thanks my amigos voyager.

[Hessen Bub]

Girls in Paradise in Stuttgart will tell you fingering the pussy is 25 EUR extra. I never paid for it. If a girl doesn't want it I don't do it.

or even more true the mayority of the girls will NEVER allow you to put a finger in their pussies at all

I'd say that about 40-50% of the girls I've been with allowed one or more fingers in their pussy. Some don't immediately but after some nice DATY. They force you to. LOL.

HB

[Amriptna111]

I have done it with a couple of escort girls, but they don't charge extra for it hehe. She guided my finger up her ass, and she wanted it in a certain kind of way. She wanted just the half of my finger inside her. THis was kind of funny, but I liked it really much. She has done it several times with me. Now I was wondering do you guys think she did this just to get me to pay her for anal sex afterwards? I can't remember if this finger up her ass thing" ended in me paying her for analsex. But I think I did once hehe. Anyyways, I am sure that I had my finger up there for a really long time (35 min) , it felt really good and "dirty".

Norwegian90

I never got it for free with Palace girls as I know they charge for everything. But with Oase girls I have had it many times. But they don't ask I just finger it there. Of all the many times only once I got charged extra for anal but I fucked her arse really good and owh she really was grunting and sweating taking the whole of me inside her. She totally earned it though. Rimming for free is something rare and I only got it three times at Oase (the butthole not perineum area) but be warned normal rate at Oase is 50 euro and some quote it as 100 euro.

[Free Dude]

Finger in pussy, is never something to pay extra for. Some girls might not like fingering and tell you no, but it is not a typical extra. Some girls might try (has never happened to me, but some terrible chicks have 'offered' the GFE package with DFK and fingering; otherwise neither).

What the back entrance is concerned, the same holds (except that most girls will refuse). I know that in Panthera is is considered an extra, which is / was a topic of debate on the German forum and it sometimes leads to discussions afterwards. BTW I also have had the luck of girls asking for an extra finger during sex; always great sessions!

[WorkTravel80]

And? Happens sometimes, girls directing a finger in their ass or one two three fingers in her pussy or both."Girls just want to have fun". Sometimes.

HB

She came pretty hard, so I guess you're right HB hehe. As I said this has never happened to me in a fkk club before. Although I luckily have avoided the big shark attacks I know most of the girls usually will charge you extra for inserting a finger in her pussy, or even more true the mayority of the girls will NEVER allow you to put a finger in their pussies at all (scared of infections etc) and it is even more rare to get to finger a girls ass I guess. I am not saying that it this NEVER happens but that it rarely will for free. You got for example Lia from the Palace, she did allow some pussy licking and clit playing, BUT that was before. Now, she wanted to charge me 50 or maybe it was 100 euros extra for this. I declined of course. She was much more relaxed the first times I met her and I guess therefore she allowed me to play with her, the last time I met her she was too worried about infections etc etc etc. But I guess you're right, that it does happens sometimes. I must admit that this suprised me, but it was a really dirty " FKK moment.

Norwegian90

[Hessen Bub]

And? Happens sometimes, girls directing a finger in their ass or one two three fingers in her pussy or both."Girls just want to have fun". Sometimes.

HB

[Trans Atlantic]

Hi guys. I experienced something kind of weird this year in a FKK Club. One of the girls wanted ME to put a finger in her ass during sex. While she was on top. She guided my finger in her ass, I hesitated at once because I wouldn't think she would do that for free. But it was her wish and she insisted", she actually begged me to put it inside her ass again when I took it out on a occation. I Have actually NEVER experienced something like that in a FKK. I have done it with a couple of escort girls, but they don't charge extra for it hehe. She guided my finger up her ass, and she wanted it in a certain kind of way. She wanted just the half of my finger inside her. THis was kind of funny, but I liked it really much. She has done it several times with me. Now I was wondering do you guys think she did this just to get me to pay her for anal sex afterwards? I can't remember if this finger up her ass thing" ended in me paying her for analsex. But I think I did once hehe. Anyyways, I am sure that I had my finger up there for a really long time (35 min) , it felt really good and "dirty".

It is not a big deal", just found this issue kind of interesting to discuss her. Because I know the FKK girls are really smart when it comes to make MORE money in a session hehe. Any inputs on this would be apreciated.

Norwegian90

You should make her an offer that since she loves your finger in her ass, she will love something else bigger in there and you'll offer it for free.

[WorkTravel80]

Hi guys. I experienced something kind of weird this year in a FKK Club. One of the girls wanted ME to put a finger in her ass during sex. While she was on top. She guided my finger in her ass, I hesitated at once because I wouldn't think she would do that for free. But it was her wish and she insisted", she actually begged me to put it inside her ass again when I took it out on a occation. I Have actually NEVER experienced something like that in a FKK. I have done it with a couple of escort girls, but they don't charge extra for it hehe. She guided my finger up her ass, and she wanted it in a certain kind of way. She wanted just the half of my finger inside her. THis was kind of funny, but I liked it really much. She has done it several times with me. Now I was wondering do you guys think she did this just to get me to pay her for anal sex afterwards? I can't remember if this finger up her ass thing" ended in me paying her for analsex. But I think I did once hehe. Anyyways, I am sure that I had my finger up there for a really long time (35 min) , it felt really good and "dirty".

It is not a big deal", just found this issue kind of interesting to discuss her. Because I know the FKK girls are really smart when it comes to make MORE money in a session hehe. Any inputs on this would be apreciated.

Norwegian90

[Only Looking]

Since I started the whole discussion again on discriminating door policies I wanted to give you all an update on the situation here. So far I have visited Dietzenbach, World, Villa Venus, Panthera, Acapulco, and Grimberg. I was made to feel welcome At all these places by both the management and the girls. Some English was spoken by the staff and some of the girls But even without that they were all very friendly. So I guess that some of my concerns were unwarranted.

[ShagZay]

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[SwingerLover]

I do consider my information first hand.

Yes. I shall think so. Therefore it might have been helpful if YOU had answered the original question: http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...=1#post1467001

The descriptions are ok with some useful info, and not that it makes any difference to me but the surveys are really going way over the top especially as the polling for say oase has closed with just an electoral sample of 15 members. This for me is really funny.

I believe you are talking about the "Venue Categories" forum? Well, the polls are held to determine what type of club they actually are. Since Oase is so clearly an FKK-club with all-naked women around, there is no further use for more survey on that particular club.

[StarletVoyager]

The descriptions are ok with some useful info, and not that it makes any difference to me but the surveys are really going way over the top especially as the polling for say oase has closed with just an electoral sample of 15 members. This for me is really funny.

[Hessen Bub]

And I admit that I'm the wrong spokesperson on FKKs, since they are not my turf. But since the question has popped up here and there wasn't much reply to it, I added on my 2 cents based on what I know from elsewhere. It would be preferable if people who actually know first hand answered such questions.

I do consider my information first hand.

HB

[Myrrh]

And I'm absolutely sure that the owner couldn't tell a Turk, an Arab, an Egyptian or an Iraqi apart if they all stood in front of him.

Like they didn't bother to check on DFWDude (American) at FKK Arabella, but simply send him away because he LOOKED Turkish to them.

DFWDude is actually half Armenian.

I am Armenian on dads side, Canadian on Moms side. Often though people think I am Italian. Infact one guy at a local bar thinks I'm in the mafia.

Both Cher and Kim Kardashian are half Armenian as well. I would never have guessed that. It's impossible to tell where people are from how they look so places like Arabella will just turn someone away if they are not sure. Even if they try to prove that they are not Turkish, Arab, etc the club will just invoke the 'Only Germans' rule just to be on the safe side and there is no way back from that one. The club gains 30 or 50 euros by letting you in but may lose much more if they think that the girls / other customers will not be happy.

Also it might be some uneducated Romanian / Bulgarian girl who answers the door who may even have less of a clue than the owner as to what different races look like.

But even if they let you in in you may be left wandering around the place not being able to figure out why all the other guys there appear to be having a good time whilst you are seemingly ignored. Probably too late to get your money back in that scenario.

Looking back on my visits to Arab (ella) I do recall that all of the customers I saw there 'looked' as though they could be 'German', whatever that is (although they did let in one French guy, LOL) , whilst at Villa Venus there was a Turkish guy who I got talking to who said that this place was a favourite for Turkish guys. So clearly there is a difference in door policy between the two clubs.

Different races have bad reputations for different things. English guys like me unfortunately for drinking too much and being loud.

Fairest thing would be to treat everyone as individuals and let someone who is from a suspect race in but warn them at the door with something like "please don't grope the girls without paying for them", for example if you look Turkish and Turkish guys have been known for doing this. Banning totally a particular race or type of races is grossly unfair despite what others might say that it could be considered to be a legitimate 'business' decision.

It is not just the wasted money and time travelling to the place but the 'hurt' feelings as well to take into consideration.

[SwingerLover]

How the hell would you know that? So all Arabs, Turks, Egyptians are discriminated against in Germany?

Not summarily; we are talking about the sex scene here. If a place discriminates, it's usually against Turks. The few where I have witnessed this myself (no FKKs) are not keen on Arabs either. Now I'm not going to name names here, except for one example because the Club is closed: former Swingerclub Spritzehaus112 in Mainz. There was an active dislike of Turks and specifically Arabs at this place, due to past bad experiences. So I can't really blame them for summarial discrimination, if it's based on own bad experience. And I'm absolutely sure that the owner couldn't tell a Turk, an Arab, an Egyptian or an Iraqi apart if they all stood in front of him.

Like they didn't bother to check on DFWDude (American) at FKK Arabella, but simply send him away because he LOOKED Turkish to them.

So I don't think the issue is any different at the FKK- and Sauna Clubs than it is at Partytreffs and Swingerclubs and does of course not apply to ALL such clubs. Treff188 in Eschborn had a vast clientel of Turks and no problems, so I guess FKKs in Frankfurt might be the same. I guess it all depends on the place and if they had previous bad experiences with Turkish guys or other nationalities.

And I admit that I'm the wrong spokesperson on FKKs, since they are not my turf. But since the question has popped up here and there wasn't much reply to it, I added on my 2 cents based on what I know from elsewhere. It would be preferable if people who actually know first hand answered such questions.