German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[Hessen Bub]

And you're right, Germans propably can't tell an Arab from an Egyptian or a Turk from a Pakistani. Which is propably why they are summarily discriminated against.

How the hell would you know that? So all Arabs, Turks, Egyptians are discriminated against in Germany?

HB

[SwingerLover]

respectively guys who speak Arabic.

Turks speak Turkish and no Arabic.

Yes of course they do, you misunderstood me here. I added the remark only to summarise the other countries aside from Arabia whose native tongue is Arabic too.

And you're right, Germans propably can't tell an Arab from an Egyptian or a Turk from a Pakistani. Which is propably why they are summarily discriminated against. For Indians, the darker skin might actually work in their favour in this regard. I've never heard about any trouble with Indians at any club.

[Yakob]

I guess you'll be fine. Nobody can speak for every woman you encounter, but I never heard about discrimination of Indish (or is it: Indian?) guys. As a door policy I know of discrimination only against Turks and Arabs, respectively guys who speak Arabic.

This is correct, but many people in Germany cannot tell the difference between a Turk, an Arab or an Indian or a Pakistani or a Bangladeshi. Turks speak Turkish and no Arabic.

[SwingerLover]

Hi. I am an US citizen of Indian origin.

I guess you'll be fine. Nobody can speak for every woman you encounter, but I never heard about discrimination of Indish (or is it: Indian?) guys. As a door policy I know of discrimination only against Turks and Arabs, respectively guys who speak Arabic.

[Brazil Specialist]

Do you understand discrimination or accept it? If you are a white male, I doubt you understand it. I don't think its "official" policy since at the door they rarely tell you that you can't come in because you're brown.

When I was a little younger I was routinely checked for drugs, when passing European borders. Even pulled out of trains for them to take my acidophilus capsules to the crime lab.

Young guys seem to be suspicious for drug smuggling. That is life.

If I happen to go the same way as a woman, at night, she gets scared, worried, or even aggressive. As a male, you get discriminated, it would not happen to a woman.

I have been turned away by night clubs, for not wearing the right clothes.

I was not accepted for job interviews for not wearing the right clothes. And yes, I have a religious-like conviction not to wear ties and other uncomfortable inconvenient useless clothes.

Oh yes, and I have been turned away at Thai brothels for locals. They simply denied it was a brothel.

And I have been warned to not even get close to Filipino brothels that cater to locals only. Angeles City had an area at some railroad tracks. It would be extremely dangerous for a foreigner to even have a beer there.


I have been turned down by girls in Help disco, who thought I was a Brazilian because my language skills were too good.


I know in Britain police must search white old white grey haired ladies for possession of explosives, lest they would be accused of discriminating by against young muslim males. These old ladies are searched needlessly, they are a victim of political correctness that says you must not profile the people who statistically commit crimes.

But, sorry for letting myself get involved into an off topic discussion.

Bringing it back to the topic: it is good to know what dress code, what language skills, what appearance is necessary at places we want to visit.

[Only Looking]

[QUOTE=Brazil Specialist; 1470884]Personally I understand discrimination.

I think you can actually CALL ahead and ASK. If the policy is legal and official, they will explain.

Good grooming, overdressing help.

I would show my passport before anyone asks, to show you are a US citizizn.

Do you understand discrimination or accept it? If you are a white male, I doubt you understand it. I don't think its "official" policy since at the door they rarely tell you that you can't come in because you're brown. But I am not bent out of shape about it. Even if they let me in to a place where they don't like my color, I would get lousy treatment and service so who needs that. I just wanted to know where I should avoid to not waste time driving around. Having traveled in Asia I know well the kind of xenophobia many cultures have and I don't think Germany is too bad on the scale of things. There are many places that welcome me and my business and I will do that.

Regarding showing passport, thats a good idea and I had actually considered doing that also.

Thanks everyone for your inputs

[Brazil Specialist]

Hi. I am an US citizen of Indian origin. I have been to most of the FFT area clubs many times and have never noticed any poor treatment in any way. Reading the forums, it seems at several NRW clubs there is discrimnation against brown people at the door. I am not going to debate this, I don't care except to not waste time driving to these clubs. I know the obvious ones to avoid (GT, LR. 39). But here are a few I am considering and would like to know if any are to be avoided. IF it helps. I am in my late 40's clean cut, well dressed and speak English with US accent but no German.

Personally I understand discrimination. If you are member of a group whose fellows tend to create major problems, it is understandable that people want to be cautious.

I don't feel good when a pit bull owner tells me: oh he is so sweet and does not bite.

I mean certain nationalities would instantly kill their sisters if they found her in a FKK.

But I don't want to discuss this, or else we get into troubles.

How do you deal with these facts?

I think you can actually CALL ahead and ASK. If the policy is legal and official, they will explain.

Good grooming, overdressing help.

I would show my passport before anyone asks, to show you are a US citizen.

After fucking hundreds of gorgeous white girls, every now and then I fancy fucking a black girl. However I like the thin slender body type and am not personally fond of massive black asses.

Thin black girls do exist, I have seen them in brothels in Prague and so on. Which FKK do you guys think offers a good selection of black girls?

I have heard Magnum has many black girls, but he line up is horrible and of low quality.

Go to Brazil!

[Capt Dan]

I went to GT as I thought you were all right and I should go where I wanted. Anyway she wasn't there even though she had told me should would be. What I did get was a surprise contact, which ended up just confirming to me that she was beyond my ability to sort out. For those who know the girl, I want to make it clear I do not say any word about her except, that she is lovely.

What I do now when I see a girl likes me, is to make an official statement that I don't want any repeat of such things. The trouble is I see in their eyes that this only makes matters worse!

As for rentals. Has nobody ever rented something which they didn't want to return?

Glad to read that your trip went well.

Cheers

[Myrrh]

FKK Arabella seems to be restrictive about letting turks and arabs in. DFWDude (American) had written a report about how he was refused entry there, just because he LOOKED Turkish.

Yes, I remember that report and it kind of sickened that someone could have gone to a club based on a report that I had made only to be turned away from the door based on their (perceived) race. Then DFWDude's request for them to at least call him a taxi because he was on foot and had a bad leg was rudely refused. Unforgiveable? Well not surprisingly you immediately removed them from the list of clubs that you were recommending.

Day two my plan was to hit FKK Arabella, based on Myrrhs report of Bryanna and Mikela. I took the DB and taxi (about 20 euro total from Dusseldorf) , I was met at the door by a cute spinner brunette who disappeared as soon as I walked in the door. I was then greeted by a tall older (about 50?) blonde who promptly told me this club "is for German men only", no Turkish allowed. WTF? I am not Turkish! I tried to explain I was from America. But she would not hear it. Her voice was something like a tuba, pretty deep. She went on to say "EF-KA-KA" clubs are for "Germans" only, you go to Eros Center "Red Light" its ok, here no.

There was no point in arguing with her, its a private business and they can run it the way they see fit. I asked her to call me a cab to go back to the train station, and this is what set me over the edge. She said "No-if I call taxi I have to pay commisson.

You are not a customer so no taxi". WTF. Now I am pissed, I have bad feet and there is no way in the world I could walk that far.

I left and went to the Mazda car dealer aross the street who happily called a cab for me.

I will be somewhat aprehensive about putting time and effort into getting to clubs where I will get turned away at the door.

[Optimist]

I was off internet access so didn't get all your replies guys. Thanks to all, CD, BB, Yakob, Ortos, BB.

I went to GT as I thought you were all right and I should go where I wanted. Anyway she wasn't there even though she had told me should would be. What I did get was a surprise contact, which ended up just confirming to me that she was beyond my ability to sort out. For those who know the girl, I want to make it clear I do not say any word about her except, that she is lovely.

What I do now when I see a girl likes me, is to make an official statement that I don't want any repeat of such things. The trouble is I see in their eyes that this only makes matters worse!

As for rentals. Has nobody ever rented something which they didn't want to return?

[Hessen Bub]

After fucking hundreds of gorgeous white girls, every now and then I fancy fucking a black girl. However I like the thin slender body type and am not personally fond of massive black asses.

Thin black girls do exist, I have seen them in brothels in Prague and so on. Which FKK do you guys think offers a good selection of black girls?

Sharks does have about 4-5 black girls. One of them (Daisy) one of the best looking black girls I've ever met in a FKK. Young, slim, perfect tits, nice ass, soft skin, great lips.

HB

[Delta Indigo]

Hi. I am an US citizen of Indian origin. I have been to most of the FFT area clubs many times and have never noticed any poor treatment in any way. Reading the forums, it seems at several NRW clubs there is discrimnation against brown people at the door. I am not going to debate this, I don't care except to not waste time driving to these clubs. I know the obvious ones to avoid (GT, LR. 39). But here are a few I am considering and would like to know if any are to be avoided. IF it helps. I am in my late 40's clean cut, well dressed and speak English with US accent but no German.

Samya.

Dolce Vita.

Grimberg.

Villa Venus.

Arabella (one report of discrimination)

Panthera.

Thanks for your help giys.

Do you think Living Room should be avoided? The reports from Living Room are not definitive and only contain one allegation I thought. I know DV, Aca are absolutely fine.

I think GT like policies are the exception not the norm. And this and possibly 39 are the only no go clubs I know of. Who cares about GT I don't. I know plenty of great clubs which are most cost effective.

[StarletVoyager]

Apart from that lr is good and most of the other big nrw clubs. Aca fine samya fine etc.

[Trans Atlantic]

Hi. I am an US citizen of Indian origin. I have been to most of the FFT area clubs many times and have never noticed any poor treatment in any way. Reading the forums, it seems at several NRW clubs there is discrimnation against brown people at the door. I am not going to debate this, I don't care except to not waste time driving to these clubs. I know the obvious ones to avoid (GT, LR. 39). But here are a few I am considering and would like to know if any are to be avoided. IF it helps. I am in my late 40's clean cut, well dressed and speak English with US accent but no German.

Samya.

Dolce Vita.

Grimberg.

Villa Venus.

Arabella (one report of discrimination)

Panthera.

Thanks for your help giys.

You should have no problems with DV; seen some Africans there.

[Only Looking]

Hi. I am an US citizen of Indian origin. I have been to most of the FFT area clubs many times and have never noticed any poor treatment in any way. Reading the forums, it seems at several NRW clubs there is discrimnation against brown people at the door. I am not going to debate this, I don't care except to not waste time driving to these clubs. I know the obvious ones to avoid (GT, LR. 39). But here are a few I am considering and would like to know if any are to be avoided. IF it helps. I am in my late 40's clean cut, well dressed and speak English with US accent but no German.

Samya.

Dolce Vita.

Grimberg.

Villa Venus.

Arabella (one report of discrimination)

Panthera.

Thanks for your help giys.