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  1. #28

    Using the German FKK scene as benchmark

    First of all thanks to the seniors for letting us have this new lounge / chat area allowing us to discuss subjects slightly outside the topics of the standard threads. It's appreciated.

    The very thing that lead to this new thread was of course the discussion between LJ, Bread and Vitrea benchmarking the FKK scene to certain p4p scenes worldwide, which I followed with huge interest. I have always enjoyed reading the benchmarking debates, but to me the true added value of this discussion was that it was between FKK veterans with a notion about "FKK standards / qualities". You just don't get that understanding when reading threads of other parts of the world. And I am not sure raising a "FKK benchmarking debate" would be very welcome in other world threads, too TBH.

    For example: When reading the Brazil threads, don't we all just appreciate so much more reading Euro100 latest escapades rather than some other Brazil veteran's view, simply because we know Euro100 so well from his outstanding reports in the FKK threads?

    And what happens when such debates takes place without FKK veterans participating? Well, I tell you what:

    This forum contains an Opinions / Editorial section with a thread called 'Which Country in Europe is the best value for money for punting? '. Today, after 10 reports, the conclusion is that you find best value for money in Prague, the small apartments in Spanish Costa del Sol, and in the German Partytreff scene. Can you believe that crap!?!! Not a word of the FKK scene ... Some of you well travelled gents with integrity ought to put things straight in that thread.

    Well, at least it makes me happy that we now finally have a lounge where we - among other things - can discuss the p4p world from a FKK perspective.

    Peace. Out.

  2. #27

    Thanks liljoey

    In a few weeks I will be embarking on another fkk adventure. I had the option of visiting Kiev this time but could not tear myself away from much loved clubs like oase and the chance to experience some new nrw clubs. However I am already planning in theory at least a trip to Kiev in September finances pending. Liljoeys patience with me on the Kiev forum explaining the in's and out's of Kiev has filled me with thoughts of exotic beauties in clubs such as Rio. So to sum up a BIG thanks to liljoey for his patience and fascinating comparisons between what germany has to offer as opposed to Kiev and supplying me with a foundation of knowledge regarding Kiev that will enable someone such as myself to undertake such a trip.

  3. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Breadman  [View Original Post]
    Its also a great way to take a break from the action. And a great time to have your choice of girls if your on the hunt. I wonder how many guys show up just to watch the game, you think about it: unlimited drinks, food, hot women, flat screen tv.
    OK, I get it. I was there for FIFA Women's WC last year (though no doubt this will be bigger).

    So I can either join my European pooning brothers & watch the matches on the 50" Flat Screens, or try to score my own Gooaall with the not-so flat Ladies! Hmmmm. Two versions of 'The Beautiful Game'.

    M.

  4. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Breadman  [View Original Post]
    I might have missed it but have you done Fkk clubs before? How are you planning on getting around, car or public transportation? What about following around some of the teams and then visit a local club? You'd break up your visits and get to see more clubs.
    Thank you for asking. Yes I have been to FKK several times in Vienna (big fan of GT there), in Hessen and NRW. I will have a car.

    Captain Dan (post # 16) added Switzerland and Netherlands to the FKK list. I am familiar with the Swiss FKK but I have never been there. Based on reports, it is a bit more expensive but that in itself does not bother me especially if some of you think it is work driving down there for what ever reasons (quality of girls, ethnic mixture, friendliness, ambience of place etc) . I don't know anything about FKK in netherlands other than Yin-Yang which I have been to and decided that I should stick to NRW clubs.

  5. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Liljoey  [View Original Post]
    I would certainly acknowledge the existence of gents who have come to nestle their eggs in FKK-land and who are also well traveled. Just as such gents surely would have to acknowledge the existence of many other more newbie types who are not well travelled and don't know it all yet. My good counsel to those who know it all already would be to lighten up a bit, and allow the free expression of ideas and information that might benefit others, if not themselves. After all, this is not a veteran's clubhouse or a board restricted to those who know it all and have no need of an international sex guide to guide them anymore. It's supposed to be quite the opposite. The well travelled veterans should be there to guide and inform and enlarge the knowledge of the newer participants to the extent they have the patience to do, and to actually post some of their own continuing exploits, even though it may not be with the enthusiasm they once had for posting. As there's always a value to good writing that entertains and / or titillates.

    Thanks for the encouraging words
    I absolutely dig your posts and your writing style. Keep them coming.

  6. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Breadman  [View Original Post]
    Its also a great way to take a break from the action. And a great time to have your choice of girls if your on the hunt. I wonder how many guys show up just to watch the game, you think about it: unlimited drinks, food, hot women, flat screen tv.
    In reality for some guys, football is more important than sex.

    And you want to watch the games with your friends, then have sex later.

    Have you seen this commercial with a GF trying to get attention from her BF while he was watching football on TV.

    She had sexy underwear and stand in front of the TV, but the guy ask her to move aside so he could watch the game.

    This picture made me laugh as in the clubs naked girls will try to seduce me during the game, and I'll say "not now my dear I'm watching the game".

  7. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Big30  [View Original Post]
    Probably the only match you have a chance to win! As we all know no-one can beat the Dutch team!

    I 'm joking but the in Group B it is difficult to predict who will winn. If one would respect the FIFA ranking then Germany and Holland would qualify for the next round, but rankings are not always respected.
    So you are with the Dutch team.

    Yes Group B is quite tough for us, Portugal we can beat, like last round.

    Germany and Holland both great teams let's see how it goes. Germany was doing great last would cup.

    I was thinking some clubs will show football in Kino, and I'll enjoy some BJ and beer during the game and have a quicky during the break.

  8. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Big30  [View Original Post]
    The impact on the line-up in the club will be limited, but when some matches are played clubs try to overcome the possible loss of guestst by putting screens in the clubs and in some cases also some special actions. Bernds had one 2 years ago, you paid less entrance when I remember well depending on how many goals the German team scored.
    Its also a great way to take a break from the action. And a great time to have your choice of girls if your on the hunt. I wonder how many guys show up just to watch the game, you think about it: unlimited drinks, food, hot women, flat screen tv.

  9. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by Nille Copenhagen  [View Original Post]
    We are going to play against Germany, that would be an interesting match. I'm considering the option going to Poland and Ukraine to see the games live. Another option is watching the games in the FKK clubs with the girls. Sex & football, Yeah!
    Probably the only match you have a chance to win! As we all know no-one can beat the Dutch team!

    I 'm joking but the in Group B it is difficult to predict who will winn. If one would respect the FIFA ranking then Germany and Holland would qualify for the next round, but rankings are not always respected. Think of EC 1992 in Sweden when a team won that did not even qualify, forgot what team that was.
    I remember a 2-2 game after over time in the semi final in Sweden.

    But yes it is true, EURO 2012 is big very big. People look at home, pubs and also in many cities on big squares to watch the game with 10. 000-20. 000 people or even more on an big screen.

    I watched some matches in a club the past years. Most clubs have some additional LCD-screens / projectors where you can the watch the game. 2010 in Gt I saw the 1/4 final match Holland-Brasil in a tent in the garden. I would estimate about 75% of the guests watched the game. During the game not much business for the girls but before and after not a problem (can depend on the result of the game!).

    When Holland played the WC final 2010 more than 100. 000 gathered on Museumsquare in Amsterdam, they had to close the square 2 hrs before the start of the match because of the maximum capacity.

    The impact on the line-up in the club will be limited, but when some matches are played clubs try to overcome the possible loss of guestst by putting screens in the clubs and in some cases also some special actions. Bernds had one 2 years ago, you paid less entrance when I remember well depending on how many goals the German team scored.

  10. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Dan  [View Original Post]
    Hijack away Myr.

    The European Football Championship is probably the third biggest sporting event on the planet (after the World Cup & Olympics) and the German National Team will be one of the tournament favourites. Therefore the tournament will feature heavily (most days in June) on German TV, and on television across all of Europe and the footballing (soccer probably to you) World, during the month of June and also early July. The tournament occurs every four years (always 2 years from the next World Cup) and this time is hosted jointly by both Poland and Ukraine. Therefore there are no matches played in Germany.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europea...l_Championship

    http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro/index.html

    CD
    Eurocup is a big event here,

    When we are playing the street are totally empty, instead people are in pubs, bars, at home and watch the game.

    Polen / Ukraine are hosts this year. 16 countries are qualified.

    We are going to play against Germany, that would be an interesting match. I'm considering the option going to Poland and Ukraine to see the games live. Another option is watching the games in the FKK clubs with the girls. Sex & football, Yeah!

  11. #18

    Keep Up The Good Work, Liljoey!

    Great Reports, Liljoey.

    You need to be aware that there are those of us on ISG that are here, in the background so to speak, reading your extremely informative reports, that consider them an invaluable resource of information. I can't express to you how impressed I have been with your unrelenting contribution. You are very talented in the methods that you employ to tie together mongering information from several destinations and present it from a somewhat unbiased viewpoint, so we, the other mongers, can draw our own personal conclusions. It is always impressive when you get that occasional monger that tells you essentially 'no, you're wrong', but, you never seem to come back with the kind of defense that is common with some people. Instead, you seem to always come back with a presentation of additional information to further endorse your ideas, but, still appear courteous to others in accepting their counter view. I have no doubt that I'm not the only one that appreciates the fact that you are not quick to start an argument.

    I agree with the idea that the forum needs to follow a format with reports organized into a somewhat orderly fashion, and it becomes a bit disorderly when the conversations wander extensively from the topic. But, it is still nice to have a place where a person like you, or someone else with valuable 'off topic' information to share, can go beyond a particular expected forum boundary, without 'border patrol' coming after you.

    In conclusion, Liljoey, please don't ever get discouraged and don't stop your invaluable factual contribution. There really are some of us out here that are eagerly awaiting what you have to say!

    Horbate

  12. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by Myrmidon  [View Original Post]
    Not trying to Hi-jack the thread, but this poor ignorant Canuck needs your valued insight.

    Just learned of Euro 2012. What I gather is: it is a significant football tourney to be held in Poland / Ukraine starting 8 June til 7 July. Germany has matches 9&13 June.

    Yours truly will be in FRA et al 03-13 June. Can anyone confirm: this will mean football on all TV's all the time but no matches in Frankfurt? The ladies will probably be ok, I didn't see a Romanian team.

    BTW: Canada now has 4 teams in the US Lingerie Football League (NA 'football' ie helmets / shoulder pads).

    Thanks for any assistance.

    Myr.
    Hijack away Myr
    The European Football Championship is probably the third biggest sporting event on the planet (after the World Cup & Olympics) and the German National Team will be one of the tournament favourites. Therefore the tournament will feature heavily (most days in June) on German TV, and on television across all of Europe and the footballing (soccer probably to you) World, during the month of June and also early July. The tournament occurs every four years (always 2 years from the next World Cup) and this time is hosted jointly by both Poland and Ukraine. Therefore there are no matches played in Germany.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europea...l_Championship

    http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro/index.html

    CD

  13. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Vitrea  [View Original Post]
    But that would be during the Euro 2012.
    Not trying to Hi-jack the thread, but this poor ignorant Canuck needs your valued insight.

    Just learned of Euro 2012. What I gather is: it is a significant football tourney to be held in Poland / Ukraine starting 8 June til 7 July. Germany has matches 9&13 June.

    Yours truly will be in FRA et al 03-13 June. Will this 'international' event impact German FKKs? Can anyone confirm: this will mean football on all TV's all the time but no matches in Frankfurt? Action in the German FKKs should only marginally be affected when the girls home teams are playing? The ladies will probably be ok, I didn't see a Romanian team.

    BTW: Canada now has 4 teams in the US Lingerie Football League (NA 'football' ie helmets / shoulder pads).

    Thanks for any assistance.

    Myr.

  14. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by Vitrea  [View Original Post]
    if you have two mongering weeks to spend any where in Europe, where would you go for mongering. What would you guys do?
    Stay in FKK-Land (Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Netherlands) .

    If you want to take a breather and see the sights, go to Disneyland Paris

    CD

  15. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Dan  [View Original Post]
    Continued from GENERAL INFO thread

    Glad to see LJ That you are taking full advantage of the new "German FKK Club: Lounge and Chat Area" and your good humour about being moved from pillar to post is of credit to you. I would however offer you some gentle words of care insofar as your quest to inform which is very welcome could possibly border on being fractionally didactic in nature (in a slightly negative sense). Many members (particularly those of long standing) of this particular ISG niche (I. E. Germany. FKK Clubs) be they North American, British, Irish or from Mainland Europe (or elsewhere!) are more often than not particularly well traveled and very aware of the delights and mongering opportunities which other continents and countries have to offer. Many of these ISG Members have traveled from Bangkok to Rio in pursuit of recreation and fun and, just as I have done, come to the conclusion that what we seek is best catered for in FKK-Land. Many of us elect to monger in Germany in preference to other locations and not out of ignorance of what other countries have to offer. Your discussions concerning Germany, Kiev and Latin American countries are most welcome, informative and entertaining. But be conscious of the fact that many here prefer FKK-Land to most (perhaps all) other locations!

    More power to your elbow and to your typing fingers!

    CD

    I would certainly acknowledge the existence of gents who have come to nestle their eggs in FKK-land and who are also well traveled. Just as such gents surely would have to acknowledge the existence of many other more newbie types who are not well travelled and don't know it all yet. My good counsel to those who know it all already would be to lighten up a bit, and allow the free expression of ideas and information that might benefit others, if not themselves. After all, this is not a veteran's clubhouse or a board restricted to those who know it all and have no need of an international sex guide to guide them anymore. It's supposed to be quite the opposite. The well travelled veterans should be there to guide and inform and enlarge the knowledge of the newer participants to the extent they have the patience to do, and to actually post some of their own continuing exploits, even though it may not be with the enthusiasm they once had for posting. As there's always a value to good writing that entertains and / or titillates.

    Thanks for the encouraging words

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