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[Escape Artist]

I know I m so different, but since 2022 , I mostly drive weekly for German girls in FKK land when nobody look more than me for looks like normal woman. Also had a claimed Italian I loved in bed where she speak Italian, a claimed French and a Russian discovered on last Saturday, so elegant lady in red who made me fantazyse so much, so erotic. Waiting for my German escort on this week end, when she insisted to see me among her whole days bookings.

Point is, do you think it is nice to say to people here who fly to a club maybe only once a year that they could find young German girls? Do you think because you drive thousands of kilometers hunting for these girls every weekend, that your experience is good advice for these guys? Maybe by reading what you write, they will be become disappointed when they go to 2 or 3 clubs on their holiday only to find only 1 or 2 German girls who they would take to a room. Think about what you write. Is it to give good information or only to tell everyone that you are successful in your game?

[Sirioja]

Young slim Germans are still very rare. That's a true comment even if you find 10 in all of FKK land. Nothing to prove but is harmful to forum information when making people believe they will find them. Information to make people hunt and search is not helpful.

I know I m so different, but since 2022 , I mostly drive weekly for German girls in FKK land when nobody look more than me for looks like normal woman. Also had a claimed Italian I loved in bed where she speak Italian, a claimed French and a Russian discovered on last Saturday, so elegant lady in red who made me fantazyse so much, so erotic. Waiting for my German escort on this week end, when she insisted to see me among her whole days bookings.

[Escape Artist]

Since February 2022 , even a foreigner living far as I told them, but I drove so often 1200 kms, almost weekly and again on next week end, for German girls in FKK land worthing I drove so much. Before covid, I drove weekly mostly for Romanian beauties, since 2022 I drive for great German girls coming from escorting, just have to be able to detect them and to compete with Germans or locals paying big money, using other qualities, easy for me. Sharks is one of best place for this. Can t find at Romania Wellcum where pimps drive their beloved.

Young slim Germans are still very rare. That's a true comment even if you find 10 in all of FKK land. Nothing to prove but is harmful to forum information when making people believe they will find them. Information to make people hunt and search is not helpful.

[Sirioja]

Yeah, you'll see some here and there but definitely not something to be expected or a reason to visit Germany. The best German girls I see are at Rewe groceries or when eating near the Universities in Darmstadt or Heidelberg. The opposite is true when I'm in Bucharest. Looking at the local Romanians there, I am not impressed. It's like the the best Romanian girls are already in Germany or other parts of Europe. And I've seen some girls send pictures when they are home for several months happy and eating their family's food. Romanian girls can get pretty chubby pretty fast when they are not working in a fuck club every day, hah.

Since February 2022 , even a foreigner living far as I told them, but I drove so often 1200 kms, almost weekly and again on next week end, for German girls in FKK land worthing I drove so much. Before covid, I drove weekly mostly for Romanian beauties, since 2022 I drive for great German girls coming from escorting, just have to be able to detect them and to compete with Germans or locals paying big money, using other qualities, easy for me. Sharks is one of best place for this. Can t find at Romania Wellcum where pimps drive their beloved.

[Jmioffe]

Took a year off from mongering while attempting the girlfriend life, no regrets but glad to be back being a sex addict, LOL. Here is my assessment of the best and worst of some clubs I visited in FKK land on my first tour back.

This is probably the best post I've ever seen on ISG. Full of thoughtful observations and useful information. Not focused on personal minutiae. If only more posts could be like this. Makes me want to do a tour like this now!

Thanks for writing it, Escape Artist!

[NorthernSpirit]

Took a year off from mongering while attempting the girlfriend life, no regrets but glad to be back being a sex addict, LOL. Here is my assessment of the best and worst of some clubs I visited in FKK land on my first tour back.

Trans European tour from Amsterdam to Villach and here are some "Best of" winners.

Thank you sir for this amazingly informative post! Makes me even more eager to visit Welcum especially. Hope to make it there by early next summer.

[Escape Artist]

I did visit 10 clubs across 1000 km in 2022-23, but I found ZERO attractive young German girl.

I do see German girls but they are old or fat or not attractive.

Yeah, you'll see some here and there but definitely not something to be expected or a reason to visit Germany. The best German girls I see are at Rewe groceries or when eating near the Universities in Darmstadt or Heidelberg. The opposite is true when I'm in Bucharest. Looking at the local Romanians there, I am not impressed. It's like the the best Romanian girls are already in Germany or other parts of Europe. And I've seen some girls send pictures when they are home for several months happy and eating their family's food. Romanian girls can get pretty chubby pretty fast when they are not working in a fuck club every day, hah.

[Escape Artist]

Took a year off from mongering while attempting the girlfriend life, no regrets but glad to be back being a sex addict, LOL. Here is my assessment of the best and worst of some clubs I visited in FKK land on my first tour back.

Trans European tour from Amsterdam to Villach and here are some "Best of" winners.

Best Service: Venus in Hamminkeln. 1 hour north of Dusseldorf, 1. 5 hrs from Amsterdam.

(Honestly I've had a 100% service track record at this club, not one single bad room ever). Management is quick to tell girls who not deliver service up to standards to leave. The problem with best service category is that you can find great service at so many small venues from a variety of optics. I chose Venus as opposed to a place like Babylon is because even with a small line up, there are still always 2-3 top optic girls and even those top girls still provide exquisite service as a standard without upsell attempts.

Best Optics: Welcum near Villach, Austria. 2+ hours from Venice or Salzburg. Saw one fat girl the 2 days I visited. The few older girls were at least still fit MILFs. The silicone jobs were more well done compared to some butcher jobs I saw at Sharks.

Sharks a close second for optics. Oase a distant 3rd.

Best Value: Penelope close to Dortmund, Entry plus 3 rooms is likely 180 e, 140 e if you have a 20 e entry card and target the 40 e girls. Super cheap charlies can maximize with 20 e entry, one 40 e room, a few meals, and a day in the garden and sauna, all for 60 e.

Best for Tourist: Sharks. I said best for tourist but it really should say "easiest" for tourist. Wild range in service for price hardly makes it the best FKK destination but they do have the biggest line up, top tier optics, good facilities if ignoring the terrible attention to air flow and temperature, good rooms, English friendliness, pretty easy to reach by public transport. All the things that suit an easy logistical experience for tourists who have a short window to visit and willing to spend alot more than locals who do not need to find 10 rooms in 3 days like tourists often do.

Best Garden and outdoor sex: Oase. Still the biggest and most open garden with public action in the cabanas. Some additions to the outdoor area and better attention to lawn maintenance solidified this as the best club to enjoy a sunny day. Girls actually use the outdoor area as opposed to most clubs where you see 40 old dicks laying in the sun while all the girls are sitting inside in the dark.

Welcum a close second with the addition of the mountains in the backdrop girls often stay in the shaded peripheral areas instead of actually mixing with the crowd in the sun and pool.

Best Food: Welcum. Full kitchen and full kitchen staff. Menu rotates, staff freshens up buffet items regularly. Good steaks on Sunday and Wednesday. Real brunch items versus daily breakfast deli spread at most clubs.

Best Rooms: Welcum. AC, showers, mirrors, good lighting, radio, window.

Best Total Men's Club Experience: Welcum. Don't go for just one day. Do at least 2 or even 3 and just enjoy your time going through the line up. Book the attached hotel to get the full experience. Maybe even go into town or a half day Alpine hike in the morning before the club opens. Enjoy being in a spa town at the base to the Alps.

Club Reviews:

Sharks:

Pros: Large line up size with high lineup optics, ease of access, girls used to working with international crowd, best steam room, improved bar service.

Cons: Highest price in Germany, unreliable service, food never changes, too hot to fuck on hot days. The only rooms with good AC are the handful near the massage rooms. They don't even turn on the exhaust fans hanging from the rafters to circulate air better. Fucking before sunset during the summer is not a pleasant experience in this club, same shit going on for like 10 years and they still can't get it right.

-Business is slowing. Shark's business got a post covid boost from hoards of young Turkish guys looking to party after covid lock downs but the days of those guys filling the club and spending the 100 e for half hour seems gone. I haven't seen a single old German pensioner type, just some of the regular German locals who come eat, drink, and maybe do one room but would be completely happy leaving with no rooms. I noticed very few long rooms with the top looking girls. Melissa seems to be the only top girl still getting a lot of long room clients. After getting the covid frustration out of systems, the locals are finally responding with holding their wallets. International business travel is still weak compared to precovid. Management is asking girls to temper their prices. Curious to see where everything lands.

Welcum:

Pros: Best lineup optics, Most immaculate venue in all of Europe, Best food, Management mandates fixed 70 e price if no extras are added, Management monitors Italian forums for bad reports, 2 alcohol drinks included with entry, Hotel attached and operated by club, Shower / AC / Radio / window in all rooms, Cabanas with curtains for outside sex, Real bar, Real bartenders.

Cons: Middle of nowhere with no direct public transport option. Closest train station is 3. 5 km away, Closest airport is 2 hours drive away, Generally good but not intimate service as there are more nonkissers, Expensive entry (90 e,) Hotel often booked far in advanced on weekends, High rate of annoying upsell attempts.

Oase:

Pros: Garden, Sauna, Cabanas for outside sex, girls hang out outside, basic 50 e service still offered if just wanting a starfish quickie with CBJ. The club just has a better ambience and layout to get you horny when moving to different nooks and crannies of the club, passing by the girls as they try to seduce you in the narrow corridors. Compare to Sharks where the open layout just has you walking laps and laps around the bar seeing the same girls every 5 minutes.

Cons: Lots of landmines if spending only the minimum. Very few girls for the first 3 hours of opening.

-I would keep my eye on Oase. Sharks came out of the post covid era as the Frankfurt area's undisputed FKK king, but what Oase lost in stunner girls, they gained in some veteran girls who can provide good service for less extortion level pricing. At the moment, the prevalent asking price is the same as Sharks but as business at Sharks continue to slow down and if girls are successful in raising prices even more, Oase is right there to benefit from any shift in line ups or crowd migrations.

Venus:

Pros: Well managed, Reliable service from all Girls, Good food, 3. 5 e beer, No girls with attitudes, Train station literally across the street.

Cons: Small line up, No stunners in line up, Best girls often hard to catch, A la carte menu, Dark rooms at night.

Penelope:

Pros: Cheap 20-30 e entry, 40-50 e rooms, large line up for the region, Some gems hidden in the lineup. Vibrant garden area although not many girls hanging out.

Cons: Mostly quickie service, Not many girls offer special "extras", Has weird vibe at night if not Turkish-German, Bad lighting in rooms at night.

-The club crowd is Dutch-German relaxing crowd during the day and turns into a bit of a Turkish party at night. I think the better service providers leave when the partying starts.

Acapulco Gold:

Pros: Same as Penelope plus close to Dusseldorf airport.

Cons: Same as Penelope plus terrible smell in shower area and even cheaper venue. Couches are terrible. No relaxing outdoor area, only an outdoor smoking area and a rooftop terrace that's often closed.

[Sirioja]

On 2022, I found a really exceptional 26 yo without silicon German in deep Rhur for many weekly rooms for months. Also German Sofi and 21 yo Kasper, very good at Sharks and a real model at 6, on 2022, all without silicon.

On 2023, I found in Hessen a 23 yo like normal woman German, of course without silicon, Germans pay her thousands, now she tries escorting, but she ask to see me, for my small 200, nothing in her business. I became a Germans specialist, giving them different sex they are used to at work or in private.

Except at Freubad, a while I didn't find a wow Romanian, when I love Romanian woman types.

Already 7 200/90 so fresh GFE rooms with like normal woman German since 7 May and we seem both to wish to keep on our love sex in bed, when I told her a bad guy like me won t drive so much for companionship or playing with doll for long hours and I even don t want to have to wait, or I m not interested. About same story than at LR 6 years ago, a bit funny. Got 8 Germans since 2020 , only 1 silicon at Globe. Repeated more than 4 times with 4 of them, had more than 10 hours with 2 . Increasing rate attracted Germans from escorting, even normal woman prefer escorting with long time companionship, but I also like sex with You, she say.

[Sirioja]

I did visit 10 clubs across 1000 km in 2022-23, but I found ZERO attractive young German girl.

I do see German girls but they are old or fat or not attractive.

On 2022, I found a really exceptional 26 yo without silicon German in deep Rhur for many weekly rooms for months. Also German Sofi and 21 yo Kasper, very good at Sharks and a real model at 6, on 2022, all without silicon.

On 2023, I found in Hessen a 23 yo like normal woman German, of course without silicon, Germans pay her thousands, now she tries escorting, but she ask to see me, for my small 200, nothing in her business. I became a Germans specialist, giving them different sex they are used to at work or in private.

Except at Freubad, a while I didn't find a wow Romanian, when I love Romanian woman types.

[Thampi62]

Planning two days in Cologne. Samya and Bernds explored last time. And had a good time in 2019. This time the days are free only on Monday and Tuesday. Plan is to visit Babylon on Monday and Six sense on Tuesday. But Bab will be herd dull on Monday. Which club will be better to explore in cologne, other than Samya? Still wish to feel the ambience in Bab. Do it worth visiting on Monday. If LU is above 15 in the evening will be positive. Can take that risk for Bab as it is still in my heart.

Regards.

[David1266]

Buyer beware of German expectations. One may find four or five young and attractive Germans if visiting 10 clubs across 1000 km. But within reasonable club visiting habits, you will not find more attractive German targets than before Covid.

I did visit 10 clubs across 1000 km in 2022-23, but I found ZERO attractive young German girl.

I do see German girls but they are old or fat or not attractive.

[Escape Artist]

Of the people reading this forum, with most being fly in mongers, I bet most are doing multiple rooms per day. Average is probably three rooms per day.

Just guessing but 70-80% of all rooms in all FKKs are probably 30 minute rooms. Probably less than 5% of all rooms are 90+ minutes.

Last Thursday at Sharks I did two 60 minute rooms, had two beers, one double Jack. Damage 392 e.

Saturday at Welcum I did one 60 minute room, two 30 minute rooms, 1 beer included, 1 Aperol spritz included, one double Jack. Damage 380 e.

2 weeks ago at Venus, did one 120 minute room, one 60 minute room, had two beers. Damage 367 e.

2 weeks ago at Penelope did two 60 minute, one 30 minute room, 2 Jacks. Damage 290 e.

In total of those 10 rooms, 30% half hour, 60% one hour, 10% over 60 minutes.

All were wonderful days.

[Sirioja]

In the website they are providing lodging too. Do have any benefit in staying in the accommodation along with sauna? As a trveler can stay for couple of nights in sauna without depending on public transport.

Hotel upstairs in building, then You can fuck girls in your bed, but don t expect to fuck whole night. When at Sharks, little Romanians say I fuck too much, if I booked a girl for the night, it would be to see if I m still able to fuck whole night, like we did with one of my girlfriends, 7 times in a row for 8 hours, but I doubt WGs would resist, even had a more than 4 hours room with very long fucking with Katea Samya on July 2016 .

[Sirioja]

When I want only excellence, my standard seem to be now 90 minutes rooms for deep wet foreplay, I love when she say: now I want to give you pleasure back. At GG, entry + 90 mn for 235 and now also with a so elegant Russian discovered, or 250/265 at Sharks with a rare German, when would be 295 at Wellcum or 545 at Globe, but I doubt girls there could compete with my 3 girls in Germany. When I plan to start my Summer climbings tour, maybe I could meet private for only 200/90 , when I made good job with her. Behavior help for rate.