German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[Turgid]

Is it true that there are more German women in FKKs now than before the pandemic? If so I need to return.

[Jmioffe]

I have been visiting lots of FKK's the last 20 years. On rare occasions I have seen women as visitors, or at least I have assumed they are visitors and not WG's. Can't explain how, but they have been behaved like visitors.

My question is this: What clubs / FKK's allow women as visitors? I am planning on bringing my wife as a visitor if possible. Strange thing, I know.

We are visiting Italy / Austria / Switzerland and the Alps-area, and would be very happy to get any advice. Swingerclubs etc not interesting for us. If someone has experience in this, please let me know.

I've seen women a few times at Oase, including a few stunners. I've even seen a lesbian pair. I met a couple at Sharks where the guy got to fuck and his not so attractive wife was using the facilities, getting massages. I don't think I've ever seen non-WG women at Mainhattan or Palace.

[Sirioja]

Thank you. That's an awful awful law.

2017 German law didn't change much for me and when I'm more picky and demanding for fresh GFE since covid, but I still found on 2021,2022 and on this year, great girls and more and more Germans. All is fine for my love in bed game in Germany and at Freubad. Ch.

[David1266]

According to law, since 1 January 2018, girls need to be registered to work in German FKK, and girls coming from else than EU or not living in Germany since 5 years can't be registered, like when just arriving from Republic of Moldavia, Ukraine or Russia.

Good point from increasing rate is now few girls in FKK who could work as escort, but FKK are more safe with security button, club security and I even advised my discovery to ask manager to call polizei to make complaint if some try to abuse her.

Thank you. That's an awful awful law.

[David1266]

Culture on more than one level. But your argument regarding Moldova doesn't hold up at all. Moldova is by many considered part of Romania. If you ask someone where they are from, they might say Moldova, and were actually born in Iasi. A city in the region in Romania called Moldova. Moldavian citizens can also get a Romanian passport easily by just applying for it at the Romanian embassy. Because Romanians consider every Moldavian to be Romanian. And this is and has happened en masse ever since Romania joined EU.

You also cannot compare Ukraine, as the Ukraine war is way too recent. But if you were to visit for example Gdansk, you'd only find Ukrainian women there. Pretty much not a single Romanian. So again, your logic is flawed. Or you are just an online wannabe.

The apartment market across Europe has seen an uptick of Ukrainian women since the war started. It is not a flood, but a marked increase nonetheless. Only time will tell if we also see them join FKK's, but FKKs are more bound by laws and regulations, and for now it might be harder legally for them. Or does anyone here know?

OK thanks. Another guy pointed out that Russian girls moved to Dubai. I looked it up and Russian can go to Dubai much more easily, and price is much higher than FKK for a stunner, so that makes sense.

[Sirioja]

I have been visiting lots of FKK's the last 20 years. On rare occasions I have seen women as visitors, or at least I have assumed they are visitors and not WG's. Can't explain how, but they have been behaved like visitors.

My question is this: What clubs / FKK's allow women as visitors? I am planning on bringing my wife as a visitor if possible. Strange thing, I know.

We are visiting Italy / Austria / Switzerland and the Alps-area, and would be very happy to get any advice. Swingerclubs etc not interesting for us. If someone has experience in this, please let me know.

Couples are allowed at Freubad North Bern which is the most beautiful club in Switzerland with garden. HH before 2 pm but I don't know for couples. Some clubs in Germany also accept. Sharks not anymore.

[Nr 71]

I have been visiting lots of FKK's the last 20 years. On rare occasions I have seen women as visitors, or at least I have assumed they are visitors and not WG's. Can't explain how, but they have been behaved like visitors.

My question is this: What clubs / FKK's allow women as visitors? I am planning on bringing my wife as a visitor if possible. Strange thing, I know.

We are visiting Italy / Austria / Switzerland and the Alps-area, and would be very happy to get any advice. Swingerclubs etc not interesting for us. If someone has experience in this, please let me know.

[Sirioja]

According to law, since 1 January 2018, girls need to be registered to work in German FKK, and girls coming from else than EU or not living in Germany since 5 years can't be registered, like when just arriving from Republic of Moldavia, Ukraine or Russia.

Good point from increasing rate is now few girls in FKK who could work as escort, but FKK are more safe with security button, club security and I even advised my discovery to ask manager to call polizei to make complaint if some try to abuse her.

[Pistons]

Maybe someone knows the answer. 90% of women are from Romania. Why?

"They are poor" doesn't explain 100%. The below is the list of GDP per capita in 2021 from World Bank. Poland is only 20% richer and more than twice population, but I almost never seen a Polish girl (shame).

Bulgaria is EU country which is poorer than Romania, but I see far fewer of them. Even considering the population size, too few Bulgarian. Also even before the Ukraine war, there were much fewer Ukrainian than Moldovan (Majority of Moldovan are Romanian), although Ukraine is far larger and poorer. Both Moldova and Ukraine are non-EU.

My theory is that their culture is much more tolerant of sex and less prohibitive of sex as they are Latin (Opposite of Polish)..

Culture on more than one level. But your argument regarding Moldova doesn't hold up at all. Moldova is by many considered part of Romania. If you ask someone where they are from, they might say Moldova, and were actually born in Iasi. A city in the region in Romania called Moldova. Moldavian citizens can also get a Romanian passport easily by just applying for it at the Romanian embassy. Because Romanians consider every Moldavian to be Romanian. And this is and has happened en masse ever since Romania joined EU.

You also cannot compare Ukraine, as the Ukraine war is way too recent. But if you were to visit for example Gdansk, you'd only find Ukrainian women there. Pretty much not a single Romanian. So again, your logic is flawed. Or you are just an online wannabe.

The apartment market across Europe has seen an uptick of Ukrainian women since the war started. It is not a flood, but a marked increase nonetheless. Only time will tell if we also see them join FKK's, but FKKs are more bound by laws and regulations, and for now it might be harder legally for them. Or does anyone here know?

[David1266]

Maybe someone knows the answer. 90% of women are from Romania. Why?

"They are poor" doesn't explain 100%. The below is the list of GDP per capita in 2021 from World Bank. Poland is only 20% richer and more than twice population, but I almost never seen a Polish girl (shame).

Bulgaria is EU country which is poorer than Romania, but I see far fewer of them. Even considering the population size, too few Bulgarian. Also even before the Ukraine war, there were much fewer Ukrainian than Moldovan (Majority of Moldovan are Romanian), although Ukraine is far larger and poorer. Both Moldova and Ukraine are non-EU.

My theory is that their culture is much more tolerant of sex and less prohibitive of sex as they are Latin (Opposite of Polish).

(Of course, economic factor is the primary reason.).

The fact that I see some Italian and Spanish despite that they are far richer countries support this theory (Both are Latin).

Religion (Orthodox vs Catholic) doesn't really explain.

I want to know if someone has any different theory. Thank you.

Country, GDP pc, Population.

Hungary, $18728,10 m.

Poland, $18000,38 m.

Croatia, $17685,4 m.

Romania, $14858,19 m.

Bulgaria, $12221,7 m.

Russia, $12195,146 m.

Moldova, $5230,4 m.

Ukraine, $4835,44 m.

[Sirioja]

Can you tell us more about why this club is the best?

Club in Carinthia is Wellcum, but really not the best for girls. Germany is by far on higher level. I wrote Carinthia is good for tourism, not for FKK.

[CwaSally]

Carinthia. At is wonderful for tourism. I m pretty sure Germany, Freubad. Ch and Swiss Dietikon West Zurich are best for business here, better than Spain, Austria and other places in Switzerland. At Sharks, can sometimes find few very rare girls. Sometimes fresh pretties at Oase or Mainhattan. For what I look for woman types, I love high level of GG NRW. Penelope and 6 NL stuck to Aachen are also on higher level than Wellcum girls.

Can you tell us more about why this club is the best?

[Sirioja]

I second that, thank you for sharing! I recognize a few of the old partytreffs there, seems that they reconfigured themselves as FKKs.

Also I did end up on the German border and visited the Sixsens in Netherlands just across the border from Aachen. Even though it's on the Dutch soil, I think it should be duplicated in the Germany forum because it's closer to Aachen than to anything useful on the NL side.

From Aachen train station, it's about 15-minute bus ride, costs 3 euros each way, can pay to the driver. Then it's about 3 minutes walk to the club. Can actually see the building from the bus station. The walk is super easy. Bus 350 goes 2 x-3 x times per hour until midnight or so.

Services are 70 to enter (there are morning discounts but of course I was too late for those) and 60 per hh with a girl, local standard is CBJ+CFS, though this could be negotiated for BBBJ without surcharge (I guess I appeared pathetic enough) Everything else seems to be an upsell, DATY, kissing, even FIV. Fortunately no one told them that in Mexico sucking on a titty is also subject to upcharge.

There were maybe 30 or more girls (hard to count as there are several floors, so possibly more than that), a lot of them were doing Important Girl Things that Could Not Be Interrupted (staring at their phones, sitting around chatting with other girls) and there are a few extremely aggressive eastern european things there that tried to drag me into a room nearly by force. Most have basically average looks. There was a skinny MILF I wanted to try out but she was sitting alone and throwing angry glares at the world so I didn't dare approach.

I miss those "hast du lust" moments from the partytreff days.

Oh and also they had a buffet dinner with meats and salads, I thought they were very good. The weather was absolutely perfect, so sitting under the sun in the backyard was amazing. I wish they'd do the sessions there too.

Sixens thread below. 110/60 with girls, BBBJ and DATY pretty standard. Pity, super sexy with superb naturals Erika doesn t kiss.

[FRobertson]

Thanks very much! Great resource.

I second that, thank you for sharing! I recognize a few of the old partytreffs there, seems that they reconfigured themselves as FKKs.

Also I did end up on the German border and visited the Sixsens in Netherlands just across the border from Aachen. Even though it's on the Dutch soil, I think it should be duplicated in the Germany forum because it's closer to Aachen than to anything useful on the NL side.

From Aachen train station, it's about 15-minute bus ride, costs 3 euros each way, can pay to the driver. Then it's about 3 minutes walk to the club. Can actually see the building from the bus station. The walk is super easy. Bus 350 goes 2 x-3 x times per hour until midnight or so.

Services are 70 to enter (there are morning discounts but of course I was too late for those) and 60 per hh with a girl, local standard is CBJ+CFS, though this could be negotiated for BBBJ without surcharge (I guess I appeared pathetic enough) Everything else seems to be an upsell, DATY, kissing, even FIV. Fortunately no one told them that in Mexico sucking on a titty is also subject to upcharge.

There were maybe 30 or more girls (hard to count as there are several floors, so possibly more than that), a lot of them were doing Important Girl Things that Could Not Be Interrupted (staring at their phones, sitting around chatting with other girls) and there are a few extremely aggressive eastern european things there that tried to drag me into a room nearly by force. Most have basically average looks. There was a skinny MILF I wanted to try out but she was sitting alone and throwing angry glares at the world so I didn't dare approach.

I miss those "hast du lust" moments from the partytreff days.

Oh and also they had a buffet dinner with meats and salads, I thought they were very good. The weather was absolutely perfect, so sitting under the sun in the backyard was amazing. I wish they'd do the sessions there too.

[Max #01]

Try this: https://www.fkk24.de/fkk-saunaclubs It may not be complete but it's fairly good.

Thanks very much! Great resource.