German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[KennyWu]

Hello Gents! I am an American, and as most of you are well aware, the scene sucks here, and so I take a couple of trips to your neck of the woods every year. My Sharks visit is coming up, and I wanted your thoughts on threesomes there. Should I insist on female condoms (do they even offer those in Sharks? Should I book for an hour, just to slow the pace of the game in the beginning? Any favorite duos you guys have encountered recently (say in the past couple of months)? Any other word of wisdom for this yank bro? Much appreciated!

I was in the Palace FKK yesterday, a blonde young lady with her friend was approaching for threesome. They both are young and slim, and offered DFK, and rest all in the list. Undoubtedly I was tired after three rounds and decided not to take it off. You can visit and see them sitting when you entered on the left side couch. Forgot their name sorry.

[Intelligencium]

Hello folks,

I will be visiting FKK clubs in Frankfurt (Sharks, Oase, Mainhattan, Palace), Cologne (Samya) and Zurich (Globe) this summer. I want to know whether I can take my luggage to the club? Are the lockers big enough to fit a carry-on suitcase and a backpack? I am trying to figure out if I can go to a club before checking into the hotel, since most hotel check-ins start late and I don't want to make a trip to the hotel to drop off luggage if possible.

Thank you!

[Sirioja]

Macron visited China to give Xi a blowjob. "Macron said that it was important for Brussels to "understand" China's reasoning when it comes to Taiwan. " While swallowing, in his mind he still has the delusion that France is a global power, but then delusions are a national malaise.

In the meantime in Paris you don't step only in the "normal" dog shit on the streets, now you can as well run slalom along the unpicked garbage.

When I m 100% french since so many generations and I m not interested in China shit products, too expensive for such shit, a bit same like not pretty enough girls in clubs, they are always too erxpensive for me, like many now at Globe.

[SlothBear11]

No, I was not aware, but thanks for explaining.

Don t You know about 2017 German law? Except for registration for WGs, but a joke when BBBJ and even AO remained. Nothing changed for me after this new law, just had to explain to few girls.

[SlothBear11]

Hello Gents! I am an American, and as most of you are well aware, the scene sucks here, and so I take a couple of trips to your neck of the woods every year. My Sharks visit is coming up, and I wanted your thoughts on threesomes there. Should I insist on female condoms (do they even offer those in Sharks? Should I book for an hour, just to slow the pace of the game in the beginning? Any favorite duos you guys have encountered recently (say in the past couple of months)? Any other word of wisdom for this yank bro? Much appreciated!

[Turgid]

Last year I have been with 49 different girls in Sharks (almost half the line-up). I would say that the 25% flop is quite just. .....

Actually this is my experience from my 15 years of FKK indulgence. It is quite high in my international experience. Up there with the Dominican Republic and India. Compare this to Brazil (5% flop) and Colombia (10% flop), Thailand (15% flop), and El Salvador (0% flop - 1 trip though), for example.

[Hyperion2007]

Peruse the German boards, service is a flop at Sharks somewhere between 25 to 40 percent of the time.
- I sort of agree to this assessment. I also think that the risk can be reduced to 5- 10% (maybe less) simply by asking the girl of her services before agreeing to a session. Many girls at Sharks underperform, but most of them are honest about it if you ask (the 2017 law in your face right there). Somewhat interesting is that the service that mostly fail at Sharks is DFK.

Last year I have been with 49 different girls in Sharks (almost half the line-up). I would say that the 25% flop is quite just. Outside of the big Swiss clubs I really doubt that you will find a better ratio anywhere. Or maybe in a club with less than 10 girls, but those places are of no interest for me.

If you don't do a little bit of questioning of the girls before going to the room then I can see how you could end up at 40%. From my experiences and talks with other customers, DFK is indeed the most important service that some girls refuse, the other one is licking. The big problem for the men for whom those services are mandatory are that some girls will tell yes in the main room, but in the bedroom you feel that they are not into it at all and it kills the mood.

[Abox79]

Clodius' response got lost in another thread. I copy it here as Clodius raise some interesting points worth discussing:

My two cents:

Sharks prices almost comparable to Globe at this point?
- When "lucky" I assume you can get "Globe quality" for 100 E /30, or even better 150 E /60, at Sharks. I am not up to date, but I believe that is a 35- 50% discount on Globe prices? And the main reason that we all don't book Zurich flights.

Peruse the German boards, service is a flop at Sharks somewhere between 25 to 40 percent of the time.
- I sort of agree to this assessment. I also think that the risk can be reduced to 5- 10% (maybe less) simply by asking the girl of her services before agreeing to a session. Many girls at Sharks underperform, but most of them are honest about it if you ask (the 2017 law in your face right there). Somewhat interesting is that the service that mostly fail at Sharks is DFK.

The GT success model. They held the line on prices / service because they wanted access to its particular clientele that the club drew in from NE and BEL. Maybe BS, maybe not.
- No clear answer from me. But the fact is that over the last 20 years (at least) the Hessen clubs have always been around 25% more expensive than the NRW. Generally speaking. Venus was even cheaper, I believe. Only Bavaria and Hamburg have a tradition for being more expensive (and less serviceorientated) than Hessen.

Thanks for this Sharks16, you raise some good points, as does Clodius and others. Clearly this is a very emotive subject that people have strong opinions about and that's a good thing. It's a great pity that the Oase / Sharks girls (maybe others) raised their prices by up to 100%, as has been stated often (by some on a regular basis) the girls are wandering around trying to get business more than they have done in the past so you'd think they would have had the common sense to restrict any rise to a more realistic level, for example 60 or 70 for 30 minutes. I think we'd all agree on that. The one thing I like about the Globe 'model' is that you know what the service levels are for a set price. I wish the same was true for German FKK, I hate having to go through the 'clarifying' questions each and every time but I am glad I do because I get replies like "it's 100 for 30 minutes and that doesn't include BBBJ or FK" from girls in Oase and Sharks.

We can only hope that the penny finally drops for the girls in the clubs that are now 100/30 and 150/60. Until then each of us decides to either accept it or not, but I doubt that even if every ISG member that visits Oase / Sharks swore allegiance to not go until the prices dropped would have and effect.

[Abox79]

Clodius' response got lost in another thread. I copy it here as Clodius raise some interesting points worth discussing:

My two cents:

Sharks prices almost comparable to Globe at this point?
- When "lucky" I assume you can get "Globe quality" for 100 E /60, or even better 150 E /60, at Sharks. I am not up to date, but I believe that is a 35- 50% discount on Globe prices? And the main reason that we all don't book Zurich flights.

Peruse the German boards, service is a flop at Sharks somewhere between 25 to 40 percent of the time.
- I sort of agree to this assessment. I also think that the risk can be reduced to 5- 10% (maybe less) simply by asking the girl of her services before agreeing to a session. Many girls at Sharks underperform, but they are honest about it if you ask (the 2017 law in your face right there). Somewhat interesting is that the service that mostly fail at Sharks is DFK.

The GT success model. They held the line on prices / service because they wanted access to its particular clientele that the club drew in from NE and BEL. Maybe BS, maybe not.
- No clear answer from me. But the fact is that over the last 20 years (at least) the Hessen clubs have always been around 25% more expensive than the NRW. Generally speaking. Venus was even cheaper, I believe. Only Bavaria and Hamburg have a tradition for being more expensive (and less serviceorientated) than Hessen.

Thanks for this Sharks16, you raise some good points, as does Clodius and others. Clearly this is a very emotive subject that people have strong opinions about and that's a good thing. It's a great pity that the Oase / Sharks girls (maybe others) raised their prices by up to 100%, as has been stated often (by some on a regular basis) the girls are wandering around trying to get business more than they have done in the past so you'd think they would have had the common sense to restrict any rise to a more realistic level, for example 60 or 70 for 30 minutes. I think we'd all agree on that. The one thing I like about the Globe 'model' is that you know what the service levels are for a set price. I wish the same was true for German FKK, I hate having to go through the 'clarifying' questions each and every time but I am glad I do because I get replies like "it's 100 for 30 minutes and that doesn't include BBBJ or FK" from girls in Oase and Sharks.

We can only hope that the penny finally drops for the girls in the clubs that are now 100/30 and 150/60. Until then each of us decides to either accept it or not, but I doubt that even if every ISG member that visits Oase / Sharks swore allegiance to not go until the prices dropped would have and effect.

[Shark16]

Clodius' response got lost in another thread. I copy it here as Clodius raise some interesting points worth discussing:

Agree with EA on this, prices are BSC after the kung flu, as if the 2017 law didn't F things up quite enough. Sharks prices almost comparable to Globe at this point? Then why risk Sharks bad service when you can get solid service at Globe? Peruse the German boards, service is a flop at Sharks somewhere between 25 to 40 percent of the time. Ouch. BTW, the German OP with the lengthy 2017 diatribe supra is full of shit. Yes, 2017 did FU the FKK scene quite a bit, but that does not explain how the OP at GT successfully held the line for price / performance until the covi--the closure. I've heard elsewhere that it was SPs that were responsible for the GT success model. They held the line on prices / service because they wanted access to its particular clientele that the club drew in from NE and BEL. Maybe BS, maybe not.

Separate Q for EA, didn't you crash a Venus club in the NRW? Was it the one in Duisburg or Hamminkeln?

My two cents:

Sharks prices almost comparable to Globe at this point?
- When "lucky" I assume you can get "Globe quality" for 100 E /30, or even better 150 E /60, at Sharks. I am not up to date, but I believe that is a 35- 50% discount on Globe prices? And the main reason that we all don't book Zurich flights.

Peruse the German boards, service is a flop at Sharks somewhere between 25 to 40 percent of the time.
- I sort of agree to this assessment. I also think that the risk can be reduced to 5- 10% (maybe less) simply by asking the girl of her services before agreeing to a session. Many girls at Sharks underperform, but most of them are honest about it if you ask (the 2017 law in your face right there). Somewhat interesting is that the service that mostly fail at Sharks is DFK.

The GT success model. They held the line on prices / service because they wanted access to its particular clientele that the club drew in from NE and BEL. Maybe BS, maybe not.
- No clear answer from me. But the fact is that over the last 20 years (at least) the Hessen clubs have always been around 25% more expensive than the NRW. Generally speaking. Venus was even cheaper, I believe. Only Bavaria and Hamburg have a tradition for being more expensive (and less serviceorientated) than Hessen.

[PaulInZurich]

Ok, it seems I'm not on top of world events as I should be. I did not understand his reference to Macron and Xi.

Macron visited China to give Xi a blowjob. "Macron said that it was important for Brussels to "understand" China's reasoning when it comes to Taiwan. " While swallowing, in his mind he still has the delusion that France is a global power, but then delusions are a national malaise.

In the meantime in Paris you don't step only in the "normal" dog shit on the streets, now you can as well run slalom along the unpicked garbage.

[Sirioja]

What bullshit law are you talking about? Just curious.

Don t You know about 2017 German law? Except for registration for WGs, but a joke when BBBJ and even AO remained. Nothing changed for me after this new law, just had to explain to few girls.

[Shark16]

What bullshit law are you talking about? Just curious.

See http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2716360.

I will put a link in the FAQ section as well.

[Sirioja]

Ok, it seems I'm not on top of world events as I should be. I did not understand his reference to Macron and Xi.

Macron who helped a lot French citizens since covid, will be finished in 2027. When I find many French becoming lazy and not able for arithmetics, I would like to work as long I will be able and no problem older than 70 if I'm still alive. But from my childhood, when I love women, real shame in US about women rights, because of Trump lack of respect for women, same like Japan is very sexist culture. I m happy my little France is still number 1 for tourism, because most interesting country. No FKK, falling escorts level, stressed on our motorways when I relax in Germany, but when 100% French since many generations, I m happy to live in France with our quality of life, when I could make more money if I wanted, not impressed by median Zurich salary, but I prefer my way of life since a while.

[SlothBear11]

What bullshit law are you talking about? Just curious.

Thank you Norp for excellent trip report. I've been mongering mostly in der Schweiz ever since the bullshit German law of 2017, but I am taking a stab at NRW again next month. The haggling and up selling really turns me off. I like natural chemistry on the couch and usually just roll the dice I'm Schlafzimmer. But now I think I have to be more proactive with the haggling. Especially with these ridiculous variations in prices. Your advice is good. Also, my main target will be GG now that YY, GT, LR all kaputt. EA, if you're still out there, I'm interested in crashing that Venus club that I think you liked, but I'm confused. Is it the club in Hamminkeln oder Duisburg? Danke, Clodius.