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  1. #24667
    Quote Originally Posted by AlexM879  [View Original Post]
    Hi,

    I am planning to visit Frankfurt next weekend and stay close to a FKK club? Any suggestions for best clubs and close by hotels to stay? Thank you.
    If you mean on 15/16 April, nearly worst time when Orthodox Easter, many Romanians returning home. On this week end, I would try Sharks because of quantity of girls and if not good, Palace on Saturday evening.

  2. #24666

    Advise

    Quote Originally Posted by AlexM879  [View Original Post]
    Hi,

    I am planning to visit Frankfurt next weekend and stay close to a FKK club? Any suggestions for best clubs and close by hotels to stay? Thank you.
    Mainhattan, the palace, sharks, oase.

    Mainhattan: a small club. Close to city center at least its easy to reach via tram. There is a seperated area for smookers. The club is just a simple place ı think. Nothing special. But some of mongers has their dream girls. Maybe you can try may be you can pass it. It depends on what you are looking for.

    The palace: again one another club, its easy to reach by you-bahn or uber-taxi. From centre it will costs around 12-17 eur.

    When you enter the club, there is reception on the right. The entrance fee is 75 euros. The main hall is very stylish, very beautiful. Medium size club. This club was also bought by the owners of the sharks. Romanians predominate. I think the place is very beautiful. But same as sharks and oase in price. It's worth going at least once. ı had indeed good sessions in this place.

    Oase: I have never traveled by public transport. I used an uber taxi. It costs 25-27 euros. One of the biggest clubs. The design of the interior is novel style. The entrance is very beautiful. There are L-type sofas scattered all over the main hall. There are screens everywhere. It's always porn. The music can be too loud sometimes. I didn't like the jacuzzi sauna units. The garden was not open when I was there. Had been several times. But as far as I know the open area is very nice. A big club. Very good girls work. 100 eur for half an hour. A must see place. Nice as ambiance. You should see.

    Sharks: This is the largest in its class. Mega club. It is located in Darmstadt. This place is 30-35 km from the center of frankfurt. From frankfurt train station you can take the s3 metro. You can get off at Darmstadt, then take a taxi or walk. When you enter the place: you can see that the main hall is bigger than all of them. High ceiling. Smoking is allowed inside but not too bothersome. Literally a FKK club. Women are always fully nude. Tuesday night is bikini night. Everywhere but everywhere is surrounded by girls. The best club in terms of ambiance. It is very possible to have close contact with women. Entrance 65 EUR, 100 EUR for half an hour. Lighting is good enough for me. Seats are everywhere. You can also sit in the high chairs around the bar.

    This is the club where first-time visitors want to spend most of their time. Because there are big and many working girls. There are jacuzzis if you take the stairs. It is very enjoyable to watch the club from the top floor.

    The design of the rooms is very nice. If you go in the summer, the garden is also beautiful. There is an outdoor pool. Women relax. They're not fussy. This may be the club where you can enjoy the most. Of course, we don't know if it will be the same for you.

    This is definitely the first place you should go. I don't know which one you like in terms of ambiance, but sharks is the best club for many men.

    Friday sharks, Saturday oase, Wednesday the palace: you can make a plan like this.

    Good luck.

  3. #24665
    Quote Originally Posted by Pessimist  [View Original Post]
    He has a point. CCP thugs have perfected the art of dividing the western alliance by finding the weakest idiot with the largest ego, stroke their ego, and voila! France and Macron have an addictive urge to punch above their weight on the world stage out of misplaced self importance but end up demonstrating to the world yet one more time their lack of relevance. Perhaps if they cut work week to 25 hours and start retirement at 58, they can find their path to the pot of gold with the help of their new BFF aka genocidal CCP thugs.
    Ok, it seems I'm not on top of world events as I should be. I did not understand his reference to Macron and Xi.

  4. #24664
    Quote Originally Posted by Alexm879  [View Original Post]
    Hi,

    I am planning to visit Frankfurt next weekend and stay close to a FKK club? Any suggestions for best clubs and close by hotels to stay? Thank you.
    Many says Sharks, I would say Palace or Oase, but sharks is the biggest one like the warehouse club setup with magic light that make ugly looks like princesses LOL! So be sure to see them under good light before taking them to room LOL!

  5. #24663
    Quote Originally Posted by Tintin1  [View Original Post]
    I'd recommend a tour of NRW. For me Sharks is fun but I go for the selection. The quick choices and then leave. For Palace, Coliseum, even Vienna, I can linger and enjoy. And keep up the posting!
    Yes I'm thinking combining NRW and Amsterdam for a future trip. Amsterdam not as much for the mongering which sounds rather mediocre, but more just to go as I've never been. I had thought of taking a train to Cologne during my stay but decided against it and am glad I did. It would have taken too long and I think limiting travel during vacation is smart since it leaves more time to actually do things.

    Definitely will keep posting reports of my adventures. This forum is such a valuable resource and I'm glad to contribute to it.

  6. #24662

    What is the best FKK club in Frankfurt?

    Hi,

    I am planning to visit Frankfurt next weekend and stay close to a FKK club? Any suggestions for best clubs and close by hotels to stay? Thank you.

  7. #24661
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Mr. Ho, are you ok?
    He has a point. CCP thugs have perfected the art of dividing the western alliance by finding the weakest idiot with the largest ego, stroke their ego, and voila! France and Macron have an addictive urge to punch above their weight on the world stage out of misplaced self importance but end up demonstrating to the world yet one more time their lack of relevance. Perhaps if they cut work week to 25 hours and start retirement at 58, they can find their path to the pot of gold with the help of their new BFF aka genocidal CCP thugs.

  8. #24660
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    I have mongered all over Spain, and it used to be one of my top two destinations in Europe, along with Germany. But no more! I decided a few years ago to drop Spain from any future trips because I found that value for my money simply was no longer there. Girls at a place like Vive Madrid wanted to charge 250 euros and up per hour without delivering BBBJs, CIM, and anal! Just simply ridiculous. There were still some good spots like Club Estark at Hotel Diana Plus, but overall not a fit for me due to lack of value for my cash. You're right about Germany. We may complain, but it was a better value than Spain then and still is now. And you're right about Brazil too. Super hot girls per my tastes. Lower cost than Spain and Germany (if you can get there). With the best service! Brazil is my number one and cannot be beat.
    I agree. While living in Germany, I took a trip to Barcelona for mongering and was alarmingly disappointed so I don't plan to go there anymore. While I don't currently live in Germany, FKKs (Sharks and oase) are still a top spot for me and I do plan to visit them annually. I also plan to go to Sau Paulo where I've heard great reviews for brothels like Scandillo.

    Having done a good deal of mongering in many countries, I have to admit nothing beats a real brothel where you can just sit, relax, drink, and pick who you want all in one spot. No going from place to place, no brining a scantily clad WG in heels back to your hotel and awkwardly signing her in, no trying to figure out how many places to visit, just one place and you have everything you need.

    The only bad thing is the harassment, WGs harassing you to take them to the room. But it's still a good problem to have LOL.

  9. #24659
    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    Macron on the knee giving fellatio to Xi Jinping LOL! Whatta real brothel situation LOL!
    Mr. Ho, are you ok?

  10. #24658
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    Let's not confuse the Latinas that make the move to your Europe with those who stay in country in Brazil. These are completely different animals! The girls who come to Europe are a pros pro. Very (too!) experienced and just here for $$. The in country girls are often semi-pro or not pro at all. They are just girls making an extra buck from time to time in a culture that is not sexually repressed.

    Actually two girls I've been with in Brazil got MARRIED within months after they were fucking me. Having some sex on the side in addition to your day job or regular BF is just a natural thing in Brazil. One of the girls even said "why should our relationship change. He knows what I do from time to time and he also likes men!" LOL.

    In country Brasileiras are unique on planet earth and cannot be compared to those that escape Brazil's gravity. As FKK is a must do for every man, so is Brazil.
    He is a very confused mini size man LOL!

  11. #24657

    Fellatio LOL!

    Macron on the knee giving fellatio to Xi Jinping LOL! Whatta real brothel situation LOL!

  12. #24656

    Not the Same

    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    When I m not attracted by Latinas with too fake moanings, when Globe and escorts in Paris fell for quality, Germany is still on high level for pickiest like me, worthing to drive more than 1000 kms every week end. On this year, found really good girls with no silicon and almost no tattoo and Oase seem a good playfield for my level with some fresh natural beauties. I enjoyed more at Oase than Sharks since mid February, when quantity never meant quality.
    Let's not confuse the Latinas that make the move to your Europe with those who stay in country in Brazil. These are completely different animals! The girls who come to Europe are a pros pro. Very (too!) experienced and just here for $$. The in country girls are often semi-pro or not pro at all. They are just girls making an extra buck from time to time in a culture that is not sexually repressed.

    Actually two girls I've been with in Brazil got MARRIED within months after they were fucking me. Having some sex on the side in addition to your day job or regular BF is just a natural thing in Brazil. One of the girls even said "why should our relationship change. He knows what I do from time to time and he also likes men!" LOL.

    In country Brasileiras are unique on planet earth and cannot be compared to those that escape Brazil's gravity. As FKK is a must do for every man, so is Brazil.

  13. #24655

    Spain

    Quote Originally Posted by Shark16  [View Original Post]
    You may want to check the Spain threads for adequate answers.

    So, you have been to Vive in Madrid at 275 E /60. Did you feel it was worth it? Personally I will always look for more budgetfriendly alternatives. Furthermore, Spanish clubs are night clubs / bars that lack all of the chill things you enjoy at a FKK club. The German FKK clubs win hands down IMHO (despite all the whining of late).

    Barcelona is a great city for brothels, shared apartments, escorts, massage parlours, usw, but there are no good clubs. You need to get out of town to find those. And you may be disappointed even then.

    I have been to many of the clubs around Barcelona pre corona. Both more expensive and more budgetfriendly than Vive. My reports are still here on ISG if you make a search. Seriously, there are several dozens of clubs in Catalonia alone. Most are not reported on. Go if you want. I had plenty of fun. Still, I much prefer the German FKK clubs.

    Never been to Madrid or Malaga, so really can't compare the Barcelona scene to those two. But Barcelona is very much alive and kicking (even though you will find setbacks even here post corona. Just as gents whine post corona in Frankfurt, Cologne, Dusseldorf, Vienna, Zurich, Prague, usw.).

    Now, if I lived in the states, I can clearly understand the fascination for Brazil, Colombia, Argentina, usw. They are great places. A few months ago I had a fantastic time at my tropical secret hideaway in the Caribbean with BBBJ / DFK / DATY / MPOS CFS sessions starting at 60 dollars /30 at the clubs. That is probably considered expensive for a lot of travellers to South America. Unfortuneately it's too far away and costly for monthly escapades. I will continue to lean on cheap European flights.
    I have mongered all over Spain, and it used to be one of my top two destinations in Europe, along with Germany. But no more! I decided a few years ago to drop Spain from any future trips because I found that value for my money simply was no longer there. Girls at a place like Vive Madrid wanted to charge 250 euros and up per hour without delivering BBBJs, CIM, and anal! Just simply ridiculous. There were still some good spots like Club Estark at Hotel Diana Plus, but overall not a fit for me due to lack of value for my cash. You're right about Germany. We may complain, but it was a better value than Spain then and still is now. And you're right about Brazil too. Super hot girls per my tastes. Lower cost than Spain and Germany (if you can get there). With the best service! Brazil is my number one and cannot be beat.

  14. #24654
    Quote Originally Posted by Norp1054  [View Original Post]
    Coming from America, this was my first international mongering trip. Stayed in Frankfurt, Darmstadt, and Zurich for 8 full days total. Did tourist stuff in the morning and early afternoon before heading to the clubs. Used public transport exclusively besides one taxi roundtrip. My report.

    PALACE.

    Went around 7 pm Tuesday. Train station is about a 5-10 minute walk from the club. Can't miss it with its huge lit sign outside. Around 20 WGs, 10 punters. Smallish facility with main circular bar in middle and a raised area near it. Clean facilities. Nice clean sauna but not hot enough. Decent showers. No really pushy WGs. Didn't feel dead but didn't feel too lively either. Music was good volume, could talk easily. Out of the four FKKs I visited, my impression is that Palace was the most laid back and chill and felt the cleanest.

    Would I revisit? Perhaps, though next time I want to experience a small Frankfurt club I will check out Mainhattan.

    CONCLUSION.

    Had an absolute blast, honestly life changing. Without a doubt FKKs are a top first-time mongering experience and a top mongering experience period: the countries are developed and safe, prostitution is legal, transport is easy, most of the people speak English, and there are plenty of tourist things to do. The only barrier is cost, but that is what working hard and saving money are for. If you haven't been, go. You won't regret it. To quote the immortal words of Arnold Schwarzenegger the Terminator, "I'll be back."
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the suggestions. I tried out Roemerbad and had a good time. It's small and def tier two girls. But had a brilliant time once I made friends with the locals. Drinks are included in the 60 cover and we pounded a bunch. One girl was pretty but a bust in the room and one was solid. At 60/hf you don't have much to lose. Best feature is girls can't approach so it's very mellow and low stress. Also just 10 mins from town so an easy choice.
    Thanks also for the reviews and long trip report. Very nice roadtrip. And I agree with Steve's praise in his earlier post and his suggestions.

    I want you to know that even after my complete research and readings, here and Lusthaus, I had the same experiences in my first two visits to FKKS. I'd only add that my very recent trip to Palace (in the FKK palace forum) was the opposite on the sauna. Loved that. And for food MAINHATTEN hands down. Best and arguably discussed ad infin. In the German boards. As to trying to remember the names of the girls from the reviews and then match them up in the place. Too many naked ladies, I get easily confused by the breasts and butts.

    As to Sharks vs Mid sized / Small clubs. Keep in mind that the larger clubs are like the Costco, Supermarkets, big box stores. They are designed to move you in and out, grab the money and provide limited relaxation If you go to a mid sized or even small club, the costs are a tiny bit less. The clientele are often local and the clubs rely on repeat business so there is often a desire by the ladies to make you feel welcome. It can be a tiny bit off putting at the very small clubs since you feel like an outsider but usually there is / are at least 1- 3 visitors. More German is spoken but everyone speaks English. I have two regulars at Palace and they treat me very special even if they only see me once a quarter.

    I'd recommend a tour of NRW. For me Sharks is fun but I go for the selection. The quick choices and then leave. For Palace, Coliseum, even Vienna, I can linger and enjoy. And keep up the posting!

  15. #24653

    Good trip report

    Thank you Norp for excellent trip report. I've been mongering mostly in der Schweiz ever since the bullshit German law of 2017, but I am taking a stab at NRW again next month. The haggling and up selling really turns me off. I like natural chemistry on the couch and usually just roll the dice I'm Schlafzimmer. But now I think I have to be more proactive with the haggling. Especially with these ridiculous variations in prices. Your advice is good. Also, my main target will be GG now that YY, GT, LR all kaputt. EA, if you're still out there, I'm interested in crashing that Venus club that I think you liked, but I'm confused. Is it the club in Hamminkeln oder Duisburg? Danke, Clodius.

    Quote Originally Posted by Norp1054  [View Original Post]
    Coming from America, this was my first international mongering trip. Stayed in Frankfurt, Darmstadt, and Zurich for 8 full days total. Did tourist stuff in the morning and early afternoon before heading to the clubs. Used public transport exclusively besides one taxi roundtrip. My report.

    PALACE.

    Went around 7 pm Tuesday. Train station is about a 5-10 minute walk from the club. Can't miss it with its huge lit sign outside. Around 20 WGs, 10 punters. Smallish facility with main circular bar in middle and a raised area near it. Clean facilities. Nice clean sauna but not hot enough. Decent showers. No really pushy WGs. Didn't feel dead but didn't feel too lively either. Music was good volume, could talk easily. Out of the four FKKs I visited, my impression is that Palace was the most laid back and chill and felt the cleanest.

    Would I revisit? Perhaps, though next time I want to experience a small Frankfurt club I will check out Mainhattan.

    OASE.

    Went Wednesday evening. Train from Frankfurt to nearest stop then FREENOW app to get taxi to drive me there about a 15 minute drive from station. I would not suggest walking. Oase is in a rural area in the middle of a field. No problem getting a taxi back to the station late at night.

    30 girls and the same number of punters. Roman and sexually explicit decor: pictures of naked women on many of the walls, multiple TVs playing porn in main room, urinals in men's bathroom were shaped like lips. Excellent, very hot sauna. Quiet room with lounge chairs off from the jacuzzi area where you can rest, sleep, read. Never saw women here. An excellent idea. Showers were pretty terrible, having to press a button for it to work for <10 seconds before having to press again. Main room with couches spread out everywhere, low ceilings, music a little too loud but not overwhelmingly so, mediocre ventilation with lots of smokers and shisha so the smell was a bit much. Mediocre buffet.

    Atmosphere did not feel too lively with perhaps part of the problem here being an important soccer game was on and many people were glued to the TV in the dining area. Also was a weekday and just not enough people to properly fill the space.

    Would I revisit? Not on a weekday, maybe on a weekend.

    SHARKS.

    Spent Thursday through Sunday here. Stayed in the closest hotel to Sharks so only a 15 minute walk. Saturday was so packed people were waiting for rooms. Hard to say how many WGs and punters there were, maybe 50 on Thursday, 100 on Friday and Saturday, 70 on Sunday. Saw quite a few girls who were there every day I was. Most patrons were German regulars. Those who weren't were from all over: talked to men from Pakistan, Turkey, Kyrgystan, Italy, China, Sweden, and a few Americans like myself.

    Basically a huge warehouse with rooms all over the place, couches and seats spread around, stairs leading up to a second floor overlooking the main floor. Showers mediocre, not always hot, again with the push button thing. Romanian music in background, loud but not overly so, same tracks over and over (they need to add more tracks and variety to their playlist). High ceilings meant the smoke wasn't as bad as Oase, but you still smell it everywhere and eventually get used to it. There's really nowhere to get away from the smoke and the musicSharks really needs a quiet room like Oase. Food was OK, not great not terrible, better than Oase. Dinner buffet served at 5 pm and kept replenished until at least midnight, probably later. From 3-5 pm no food available. When busy, difficult to get bartender's attention and they seemed understaffed. Sauna infusions with Dieter were great, but I overdid it and got minor burns to the back of my arms. Got an excellent deep tissue massage from buff Turkish dude.

    Would I revisit? Absolutely. There's nothing like a mega-size FKK like with 100 naked young women walking around. Should absolutely be on the monger bucket list. If you're in the Frankfurt area and can only visit one FKK, go to Sharks.

    GLOBE.

    Spent Monday through Wednesday here. Stayed in downtown Zurich. Take train from main station to Schwerzenbach then a 5 minute walk. Last train leaves from Schwezenbach back to Zurich around 1 am before restarting a few hours later.

    Facilities are very dark everywhere, felt like a cave. Or maybe a dark maze because the way it's laid out is confusing. Hotter than any of the German clubs. They will offer you two towels vs. A towel + bathrobe. Take the two towels to reduce the heat. A number of WGs and punters I talked to complained about the facilities, but I found them overall better than the German clubs. Showers were hot, no push button bullshit. Water, coffee, and juice upstairs freely available so you don't have ask a busy bartender for such basics like at the German clubs. Many of the mattresses were old and dirty the girl strips the bedsheet at the end of each session. Rooms have speakers with music that can be turned off but no fine volume adjustment, no intensity adjustment for lights.

    Service here was most consistently good, as you might expect. And given the price, it should be. It's nice not to have to worry about price negotiation and upselling. Per the girls I talked tol, if a girl gets too many complaints she's kicked out and there are some customers who like to complain so the bad ones quickly get weeded out. Girls also have to work the job's schedule like a regular job and many seem to work long hours, think 14 hour days. At the end of a session, you go to the front desk to pay and they ask you how it went (though not with every girl those who've been there awhile can go to the desk themselves after you hand them money at the lockers). DFK was good to excellent from all the girls as was BBBJ. About half the girls offered to shower with me afterward. I never asked those who didn't offer. Was asked somewhat probing questions by the lady at the front desk about my experience at the end of the night upon leaving one night.

    Public sex Tuesday is something to be experienced. Of course I was nervous never having done it before, so I had my two public sessions on a couch behind a half-ass curtain. A few dudes peeked in for sure, but there was no pervert standing over us the whole time jacking off! Definitely adds an additional element to the experience though most of the time I'm still focused on the sex itself as though I were in private. Would do it again. The public sex show was pretty raunchy with one threesome, 4 couples, and some people getting BBBJ on the side. Was asked which girl I wanted to vote for and I had no idea so picked the threesome one.

    Would I go back? Definitely. And on a weekend to get the full experience.

    GIRLS.

    Had around 25 sessions total. Mostly Romanian. Most work a few weeks, head back home for a few weeks, rinse and repeat. Everybody spoke basic English, most spoke decent English, a few very good English. Vast majority smoke or vape. Everyone I met was friendly and I had no overtly unpleasant interactions. However, many at the German clubs will try to upsell and I will admit I overpaid for quite a few of my early sessions before I learned the game. Much of this has already been said on this forum, but here are some of my takeaway lessons for newbies.

    -Discuss everything before you get to the room. Be specific about the price and what you want and expect. Be relaxed about it, they've heard it all before. I don't like upselling in the room so I make it clear before we go that there will be none of that and if I want extras, I will bring it up myself.

    -Start with a short session and say you will extend if things are going well.

    -If you see someone very attractive to you, make contact ASAP since she may disappear and you'll never see her again.

    -Communication and attitude are important to an extent, but they don't determine how good a session will be. The best sex I had on this trip was at Globe with a girl whose English was rather poor and who had a somewhat bored demeanor. But her body ticked all of my boxes and she was a firecracker in bed. In other words, don't judge a book by its cover.

    -Obviously, reports of scammers and truly unpleasant people are helpful. But reviews of individual girls were of limited use for me. I spent a lot of time before the trip looking at reviews of individual girls here and on other forums. I ended up using very little of this knowledge. I could see how it might be useful for regulars though. On that same note, whether a session is good or not depends on so many conditioning factors, many out of our control. Your mood, her mood, your body, her body, your mindset, her mindset, etc.

    -Don't forget this is her job. You may be here primarily for fun, but she's here primarily to make money. But just like you can have fun doing your job, so can she. Helping that happen leads to better sessions.

    CONCLUSION.

    Had an absolute blast, honestly life changing. Without a doubt FKKs are a top first-time mongering experience and a top mongering experience period: the countries are developed and safe, prostitution is legal, transport is easy, most of the people speak English, and there are plenty of tourist things to do. The only barrier is cost, but that is what working hard and saving money are for. If you haven't been, go. You won't regret it. To quote the immortal words of Arnold Schwarzenegger the Terminator, "I'll be back."

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