German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[Clodius1]

Thank you Norp for excellent trip report. I've been mongering mostly in der Schweiz ever since the bullshit German law of 2017, but I am taking a stab at NRW again next month. The haggling and up selling really turns me off. I like natural chemistry on the couch and usually just roll the dice I'm Schlafzimmer. But now I think I have to be more proactive with the haggling. Especially with these ridiculous variations in prices. Your advice is good. Also, my main target will be GG now that YY, GT, LR all kaputt. EA, if you're still out there, I'm interested in crashing that Venus club that I think you liked, but I'm confused. Is it the club in Hamminkeln oder Duisburg? Danke, Clodius.

Coming from America, this was my first international mongering trip. Stayed in Frankfurt, Darmstadt, and Zurich for 8 full days total. Did tourist stuff in the morning and early afternoon before heading to the clubs. Used public transport exclusively besides one taxi roundtrip. My report.

PALACE.

Went around 7 pm Tuesday. Train station is about a 5-10 minute walk from the club. Can't miss it with its huge lit sign outside. Around 20 WGs, 10 punters. Smallish facility with main circular bar in middle and a raised area near it. Clean facilities. Nice clean sauna but not hot enough. Decent showers. No really pushy WGs. Didn't feel dead but didn't feel too lively either. Music was good volume, could talk easily. Out of the four FKKs I visited, my impression is that Palace was the most laid back and chill and felt the cleanest.

Would I revisit? Perhaps, though next time I want to experience a small Frankfurt club I will check out Mainhattan.

OASE.

Went Wednesday evening. Train from Frankfurt to nearest stop then FREENOW app to get taxi to drive me there about a 15 minute drive from station. I would not suggest walking. Oase is in a rural area in the middle of a field. No problem getting a taxi back to the station late at night.

30 girls and the same number of punters. Roman and sexually explicit decor: pictures of naked women on many of the walls, multiple TVs playing porn in main room, urinals in men's bathroom were shaped like lips. Excellent, very hot sauna. Quiet room with lounge chairs off from the jacuzzi area where you can rest, sleep, read. Never saw women here. An excellent idea. Showers were pretty terrible, having to press a button for it to work for <10 seconds before having to press again. Main room with couches spread out everywhere, low ceilings, music a little too loud but not overwhelmingly so, mediocre ventilation with lots of smokers and shisha so the smell was a bit much. Mediocre buffet.

Atmosphere did not feel too lively with perhaps part of the problem here being an important soccer game was on and many people were glued to the TV in the dining area. Also was a weekday and just not enough people to properly fill the space.

Would I revisit? Not on a weekday, maybe on a weekend.

SHARKS.

Spent Thursday through Sunday here. Stayed in the closest hotel to Sharks so only a 15 minute walk. Saturday was so packed people were waiting for rooms. Hard to say how many WGs and punters there were, maybe 50 on Thursday, 100 on Friday and Saturday, 70 on Sunday. Saw quite a few girls who were there every day I was. Most patrons were German regulars. Those who weren't were from all over: talked to men from Pakistan, Turkey, Kyrgystan, Italy, China, Sweden, and a few Americans like myself.

Basically a huge warehouse with rooms all over the place, couches and seats spread around, stairs leading up to a second floor overlooking the main floor. Showers mediocre, not always hot, again with the push button thing. Romanian music in background, loud but not overly so, same tracks over and over (they need to add more tracks and variety to their playlist). High ceilings meant the smoke wasn't as bad as Oase, but you still smell it everywhere and eventually get used to it. There's really nowhere to get away from the smoke and the musicSharks really needs a quiet room like Oase. Food was OK, not great not terrible, better than Oase. Dinner buffet served at 5 pm and kept replenished until at least midnight, probably later. From 3-5 pm no food available. When busy, difficult to get bartender's attention and they seemed understaffed. Sauna infusions with Dieter were great, but I overdid it and got minor burns to the back of my arms. Got an excellent deep tissue massage from buff Turkish dude.

Would I revisit? Absolutely. There's nothing like a mega-size FKK like with 100 naked young women walking around. Should absolutely be on the monger bucket list. If you're in the Frankfurt area and can only visit one FKK, go to Sharks.

GLOBE.

Spent Monday through Wednesday here. Stayed in downtown Zurich. Take train from main station to Schwerzenbach then a 5 minute walk. Last train leaves from Schwezenbach back to Zurich around 1 am before restarting a few hours later.

Facilities are very dark everywhere, felt like a cave. Or maybe a dark maze because the way it's laid out is confusing. Hotter than any of the German clubs. They will offer you two towels vs. A towel + bathrobe. Take the two towels to reduce the heat. A number of WGs and punters I talked to complained about the facilities, but I found them overall better than the German clubs. Showers were hot, no push button bullshit. Water, coffee, and juice upstairs freely available so you don't have ask a busy bartender for such basics like at the German clubs. Many of the mattresses were old and dirty the girl strips the bedsheet at the end of each session. Rooms have speakers with music that can be turned off but no fine volume adjustment, no intensity adjustment for lights.

Service here was most consistently good, as you might expect. And given the price, it should be. It's nice not to have to worry about price negotiation and upselling. Per the girls I talked tol, if a girl gets too many complaints she's kicked out and there are some customers who like to complain so the bad ones quickly get weeded out. Girls also have to work the job's schedule like a regular job and many seem to work long hours, think 14 hour days. At the end of a session, you go to the front desk to pay and they ask you how it went (though not with every girl those who've been there awhile can go to the desk themselves after you hand them money at the lockers). DFK was good to excellent from all the girls as was BBBJ. About half the girls offered to shower with me afterward. I never asked those who didn't offer. Was asked somewhat probing questions by the lady at the front desk about my experience at the end of the night upon leaving one night.

Public sex Tuesday is something to be experienced. Of course I was nervous never having done it before, so I had my two public sessions on a couch behind a half-ass curtain. A few dudes peeked in for sure, but there was no pervert standing over us the whole time jacking off! Definitely adds an additional element to the experience though most of the time I'm still focused on the sex itself as though I were in private. Would do it again. The public sex show was pretty raunchy with one threesome, 4 couples, and some people getting BBBJ on the side. Was asked which girl I wanted to vote for and I had no idea so picked the threesome one.

Would I go back? Definitely. And on a weekend to get the full experience.

GIRLS.

Had around 25 sessions total. Mostly Romanian. Most work a few weeks, head back home for a few weeks, rinse and repeat. Everybody spoke basic English, most spoke decent English, a few very good English. Vast majority smoke or vape. Everyone I met was friendly and I had no overtly unpleasant interactions. However, many at the German clubs will try to upsell and I will admit I overpaid for quite a few of my early sessions before I learned the game. Much of this has already been said on this forum, but here are some of my takeaway lessons for newbies.

-Discuss everything before you get to the room. Be specific about the price and what you want and expect. Be relaxed about it, they've heard it all before. I don't like upselling in the room so I make it clear before we go that there will be none of that and if I want extras, I will bring it up myself.

-Start with a short session and say you will extend if things are going well.

-If you see someone very attractive to you, make contact ASAP since she may disappear and you'll never see her again.

-Communication and attitude are important to an extent, but they don't determine how good a session will be. The best sex I had on this trip was at Globe with a girl whose English was rather poor and who had a somewhat bored demeanor. But her body ticked all of my boxes and she was a firecracker in bed. In other words, don't judge a book by its cover.

-Obviously, reports of scammers and truly unpleasant people are helpful. But reviews of individual girls were of limited use for me. I spent a lot of time before the trip looking at reviews of individual girls here and on other forums. I ended up using very little of this knowledge. I could see how it might be useful for regulars though. On that same note, whether a session is good or not depends on so many conditioning factors, many out of our control. Your mood, her mood, your body, her body, your mindset, her mindset, etc.

-Don't forget this is her job. You may be here primarily for fun, but she's here primarily to make money. But just like you can have fun doing your job, so can she. Helping that happen leads to better sessions.

CONCLUSION.

Had an absolute blast, honestly life changing. Without a doubt FKKs are a top first-time mongering experience and a top mongering experience period: the countries are developed and safe, prostitution is legal, transport is easy, most of the people speak English, and there are plenty of tourist things to do. The only barrier is cost, but that is what working hard and saving money are for. If you haven't been, go. You won't regret it. To quote the immortal words of Arnold Schwarzenegger the Terminator, "I'll be back."

[Norp1054]

Thanks Norp for that amazing and well organized report. It's this kind of quality information board members really value. I will say my experience is quite like yours and FKK is one of the best experiences on the planet. If you are a traveling man however I recommend you check out Brazil. Of course you must like Latinas. But all board members I know put Scandallo (nicest club in Brazil) a notch above the FKK experience (if you have coin). It's not like FKK no sauna or buffet. But nightclub with 100-200 sevens and up all ready to rumble. No rush. No upsell. You might talk and kiss and dance for 30 minutes or more before going to the room. My first girl there we spent two hours together before we even went to the room!

And Brasileiras are a breed apart in the room. It is never "their job". They commit to the moment. Rare exceptions but mostly simply amazing.

I guess we needn't debate is it better. But it is awesome and you should try it!

I also had a great Seeking Arrangement date in Rio three weeks ago. Seeking of course is more like real life dating. I managed to score a true 9.5 unicorn (looks, personality, skills - all 9.5) for $100 USD and we spent 4 hours together at dinner, rooftop bar, and in the room. Best bang for the buck Ive had in the last 20 years.

Thanks Steve. Brazil and Scandallo are definitely on my list for the future. Meanwhile, I'll be checking out Medellin for a short trip soon and my rudimentary Spanish should get me by.

Better to visit Palace on Friday or Saturday evening to see at best. For Oase, on Saturday evening. Not much selection now at Globe when they don t attract anymore best girls. Too expensive for looks now there.

Reflecting more, it seems like Oase would be worth revisiting when it's warm outside on a weekend day. It was dreary, cold and raining while I was there so I didn't really check the exterior out. But from reports it sounds like it's one of the better FKKs to spend time outdoors at. Sharks also had what looked like a large outdoor but the weather was similarly terrible and I didn't check it out. Horrible weather almost every single day of my trip, even snowed briefly in Frankfurt while I was out playing the tourist. Maybe next time I'll go in the summer and pick dates where it's likely to be pleasant.

[Turgid]

When I m not attracted by Latinas with too fake moanings......

Of all the women I have banged in my life the greatest percentage have been Latinas and there is no way I can accuse them of fake moanings. On occasion loud but not fake. Asians are noted for fake screeches, the majority. With the exception of Indians who are the most honest with their exclamations of all the women I have been with. When an Indian woman makes noises she is genuinely into it. Latinas are indeed passionate and generally enjoy sex as much as the gent so more than likely their sounds of enjoyment are authentic.

[Gilliat]

Thanks Norp for that amazing and well organized report. It's this kind of quality information board members really value. I will say my experience is quite like yours and FKK is one of the best experiences on the planet. If you are a traveling man however I recommend you check out Brazil. Of course you must like Latinas. But all board members I know put Scandallo (nicest club in Brazil) a notch above the FKK experience (if you have coin). It's not like FKK no sauna or buffet. But nightclub with 100-200 sevens and up all ready to rumble. No rush. No upsell. You might talk and kiss and dance for 30 minutes or more before going to the room. My first girl there we spent two hours together before we even went to the room!

And Brasileiras are a breed apart in the room. It is never "their job". They commit to the moment. Rare exceptions but mostly simply amazing.

I guess we needn't debate is it better. But it is awesome and you should try it!

I also had a great Seeking Arrangement date in Rio three weeks ago. Seeking of course is more like real life dating. I managed to score a true 9.5 unicorn (looks, personality, skills - all 9.5) for $100 USD and we spent 4 hours together at dinner, rooftop bar, and in the room. Best bang for the buck Ive had in the last 20 years.

Have heard many thing regarding scandallo. Brazil. But for me its very far away and flight tickets costs much money. In spain can you give an advice. Similarity to scandallo. In madrid have been to vive club. Its qute perfect but 1 hour 275 eur. More expensive than sharks or artemis Berlin. In barcelona or malaga or.

Best regards.

[Sirioja]

When I m not attracted by Latinas with too fake moanings, when Globe and escorts in Paris fell for quality, Germany is still on high level for pickiest like me, worthing to drive more than 1000 kms every week end. On this year, found really good girls with no silicon and almost no tattoo and Oase seem a good playfield for my level with some fresh natural beauties. I enjoyed more at Oase than Sharks since mid February, when quantity never meant quality.

[Sirioja]

Coming from America, this was my first international mongering trip. Stayed in Frankfurt, Darmstadt, and Zurich for 8 full days total. Did tourist stuff in the morning and early afternoon before heading to the clubs. Used public transport exclusively besides one taxi roundtrip. My report.

PALACE.

Went around 7 pm Tuesday. Train station is about a 5-10 minute walk from the club. Can't miss it with its huge lit sign outside. Around 20 WGs, 10 punters. Smallish facility with main circular bar in middle and a raised area near it. Clean facilities. Nice clean sauna but not hot enough. Decent showers. No really pushy WGs. Didn't feel dead but didn't feel too lively either. Music was good volume, could talk easily. Out of the four FKKs I visited, my impression is that Palace was the most laid back and chill and felt the cleanest.

Would I revisit? Perhaps, though next time I want to experience a small Frankfurt club I will check out Mainhattan.

OASE.

Went Wednesday evening. Train from Frankfurt to nearest stop then FREENOW app to get taxi to drive me there about a 15 minute drive from station. I would not suggest walking. Oase is in a rural area in the middle of a field. No problem getting a taxi back to the station late at night.

30 girls and the same number of punters. Roman and sexually explicit decor: pictures of naked women on many of the walls, multiple TVs playing porn in main room, urinals in men's bathroom were shaped like lips. Excellent, very hot sauna. Quiet room with lounge chairs off from the jacuzzi area where you can rest, sleep, read. Never saw women here. An excellent idea. Showers were pretty terrible, having to press a button for it to work for <10 seconds before having to press again. Main room with couches spread out everywhere, low ceilings, music a little too loud but not overwhelmingly so, mediocre ventilation with lots of smokers and shisha so the smell was a bit much. Mediocre buffet.

Atmosphere did not feel too lively with perhaps part of the problem here being an important soccer game was on and many people were glued to the TV in the dining area. Also was a weekday and just not enough people to properly fill the space.

Better to visit Palace on Friday or Saturday evening to see at best. For Oase, on Saturday evening. Not much selection now at Globe when they don t attract anymore best girls. Too expensive for looks now there.

[Steve 9696]

Thanks Norp for that amazing and well organized report. It's this kind of quality information board members really value. I will say my experience is quite like yours and FKK is one of the best experiences on the planet. If you are a traveling man however I recommend you check out Brazil. Of course you must like Latinas. But all board members I know put Scandallo (nicest club in Brazil) a notch above the FKK experience (if you have coin). It's not like FKK no sauna or buffet. But nightclub with 100-200 sevens and up all ready to rumble. No rush. No upsell. You might talk and kiss and dance for 30 minutes or more before going to the room. My first girl there we spent two hours together before we even went to the room!

And Brasileiras are a breed apart in the room. It is never "their job". They commit to the moment. Rare exceptions but mostly simply amazing.

I guess we needn't debate is it better. But it is awesome and you should try it!

I also had a great Seeking Arrangement date in Rio three weeks ago. Seeking of course is more like real life dating. I managed to score a true 9.5 unicorn (looks, personality, skills - all 9.5) for $100 USD and we spent 4 hours together at dinner, rooftop bar, and in the room. Best bang for the buck Ive had in the last 20 years.

[Norp1054]

Coming from America, this was my first international mongering trip. Stayed in Frankfurt, Darmstadt, and Zurich for 8 full days total. Did tourist stuff in the morning and early afternoon before heading to the clubs. Used public transport exclusively besides one taxi roundtrip. My report.

PALACE.

Went around 7 pm Tuesday. Train station is about a 5-10 minute walk from the club. Can't miss it with its huge lit sign outside. Around 20 WGs, 10 punters. Smallish facility with main circular bar in middle and a raised area near it. Clean facilities. Nice clean sauna but not hot enough. Decent showers. No really pushy WGs. Didn't feel dead but didn't feel too lively either. Music was good volume, could talk easily. Out of the four FKKs I visited, my impression is that Palace was the most laid back and chill and felt the cleanest.

Would I revisit? Perhaps, though next time I want to experience a small Frankfurt club I will check out Mainhattan.

OASE.

Went Wednesday evening. Train from Frankfurt to nearest stop then FREENOW app to get taxi to drive me there about a 15 minute drive from station. I would not suggest walking. Oase is in a rural area in the middle of a field. No problem getting a taxi back to the station late at night.

30 girls and the same number of punters. Roman and sexually explicit decor: pictures of naked women on many of the walls, multiple TVs playing porn in main room, urinals in men's bathroom were shaped like lips. Excellent, very hot sauna. Quiet room with lounge chairs off from the jacuzzi area where you can rest, sleep, read. Never saw women here. An excellent idea. Showers were pretty terrible, having to press a button for it to work for <10 seconds before having to press again. Main room with couches spread out everywhere, low ceilings, music a little too loud but not overwhelmingly so, mediocre ventilation with lots of smokers and shisha so the smell was a bit much. Mediocre buffet.

Atmosphere did not feel too lively with perhaps part of the problem here being an important soccer game was on and many people were glued to the TV in the dining area. Also was a weekday and just not enough people to properly fill the space.

Would I revisit? Not on a weekday, maybe on a weekend.

SHARKS.

Spent Thursday through Sunday here. Stayed in the closest hotel to Sharks so only a 15 minute walk. Saturday was so packed people were waiting for rooms. Hard to say how many WGs and punters there were, maybe 50 on Thursday, 100 on Friday and Saturday, 70 on Sunday. Saw quite a few girls who were there every day I was. Most patrons were German regulars. Those who weren't were from all over: talked to men from Pakistan, Turkey, Kyrgystan, Italy, China, Sweden, and a few Americans like myself.

Basically a huge warehouse with rooms all over the place, couches and seats spread around, stairs leading up to a second floor overlooking the main floor. Showers mediocre, not always hot, again with the push button thing. Romanian music in background, loud but not overly so, same tracks over and over (they need to add more tracks and variety to their playlist). High ceilings meant the smoke wasn't as bad as Oase, but you still smell it everywhere and eventually get used to it. There's really nowhere to get away from the smoke and the musicSharks really needs a quiet room like Oase. Food was OK, not great not terrible, better than Oase. Dinner buffet served at 5 pm and kept replenished until at least midnight, probably later. From 3-5 pm no food available. When busy, difficult to get bartender's attention and they seemed understaffed. Sauna infusions with Dieter were great, but I overdid it and got minor burns to the back of my arms. Got an excellent deep tissue massage from buff Turkish dude.

Would I revisit? Absolutely. There's nothing like a mega-size FKK like with 100 naked young women walking around. Should absolutely be on the monger bucket list. If you're in the Frankfurt area and can only visit one FKK, go to Sharks.

GLOBE.

Spent Monday through Wednesday here. Stayed in downtown Zurich. Take train from main station to Schwerzenbach then a 5 minute walk. Last train leaves from Schwezenbach back to Zurich around 1 am before restarting a few hours later.

Facilities are very dark everywhere, felt like a cave. Or maybe a dark maze because the way it's laid out is confusing. Hotter than any of the German clubs. They will offer you two towels vs. A towel + bathrobe. Take the two towels to reduce the heat. A number of WGs and punters I talked to complained about the facilities, but I found them overall better than the German clubs. Showers were hot, no push button bullshit. Water, coffee, and juice upstairs freely available so you don't have ask a busy bartender for such basics like at the German clubs. Many of the mattresses were old and dirty the girl strips the bedsheet at the end of each session. Rooms have speakers with music that can be turned off but no fine volume adjustment, no intensity adjustment for lights.

Service here was most consistently good, as you might expect. And given the price, it should be. It's nice not to have to worry about price negotiation and upselling. Per the girls I talked tol, if a girl gets too many complaints she's kicked out and there are some customers who like to complain so the bad ones quickly get weeded out. Girls also have to work the job's schedule like a regular job and many seem to work long hours, think 14 hour days. At the end of a session, you go to the front desk to pay and they ask you how it went (though not with every girl those who've been there awhile can go to the desk themselves after you hand them money at the lockers). DFK was good to excellent from all the girls as was BBBJ. About half the girls offered to shower with me afterward. I never asked those who didn't offer. Was asked somewhat probing questions by the lady at the front desk about my experience at the end of the night upon leaving one night.

Public sex Tuesday is something to be experienced. Of course I was nervous never having done it before, so I had my two public sessions on a couch behind a half-ass curtain. A few dudes peeked in for sure, but there was no pervert standing over us the whole time jacking off! Definitely adds an additional element to the experience though most of the time I'm still focused on the sex itself as though I were in private. Would do it again. The public sex show was pretty raunchy with one threesome, 4 couples, and some people getting BBBJ on the side. Was asked which girl I wanted to vote for and I had no idea so picked the threesome one.

Would I go back? Definitely. And on a weekend to get the full experience.

GIRLS.

Had around 25 sessions total. Mostly Romanian. Most work a few weeks, head back home for a few weeks, rinse and repeat. Everybody spoke basic English, most spoke decent English, a few very good English. Vast majority smoke or vape. Everyone I met was friendly and I had no overtly unpleasant interactions. However, many at the German clubs will try to upsell and I will admit I overpaid for quite a few of my early sessions before I learned the game. Much of this has already been said on this forum, but here are some of my takeaway lessons for newbies.

-Discuss everything before you get to the room. Be specific about the price and what you want and expect. Be relaxed about it, they've heard it all before. I don't like upselling in the room so I make it clear before we go that there will be none of that and if I want extras, I will bring it up myself.

-Start with a short session and say you will extend if things are going well.

-If you see someone very attractive to you, make contact ASAP since she may disappear and you'll never see her again.

-Communication and attitude are important to an extent, but they don't determine how good a session will be. The best sex I had on this trip was at Globe with a girl whose English was rather poor and who had a somewhat bored demeanor. But her body ticked all of my boxes and she was a firecracker in bed. In other words, don't judge a book by its cover.

-Obviously, reports of scammers and truly unpleasant people are helpful. But reviews of individual girls were of limited use for me. I spent a lot of time before the trip looking at reviews of individual girls here and on other forums. I ended up using very little of this knowledge. I could see how it might be useful for regulars though. On that same note, whether a session is good or not depends on so many conditioning factors, many out of our control. Your mood, her mood, your body, her body, your mindset, her mindset, etc.

-Don't forget this is her job. You may be here primarily for fun, but she's here primarily to make money. But just like you can have fun doing your job, so can she. Helping that happen leads to better sessions.

CONCLUSION.

Had an absolute blast, honestly life changing. Without a doubt FKKs are a top first-time mongering experience and a top mongering experience period: the countries are developed and safe, prostitution is legal, transport is easy, most of the people speak English, and there are plenty of tourist things to do. The only barrier is cost, but that is what working hard and saving money are for. If you haven't been, go. You won't regret it. To quote the immortal words of Arnold Schwarzenegger the Terminator, "I'll be back."

[Sirioja]

Not in RTC nor in latinas club, but I still find natural real beauties, some with 0 tattoo. After covid is on higher level for me in Germany than from 2013 til covid except 2017 , when I m now pickier since covid lockdown.

I saw pretties on my 3 visits at Oase since end of February, when Cosmina tell better business than at Sharks now.

[Shark16]

Thanks for the suggestions. I tried out Roemerbad and had a good time. It's small and def tier two girls. But had a brilliant time once I made friends with the locals. Drinks are included in the 60 cover and we pounded a bunch. One girl was pretty but a bust in the room and one was solid. At 60/hf you don't have much to lose. Best feature is girls can't approach so it's very mellow and low stress. Also just 10 mins from town so an easy choice.

Thanks for giving back. Always a pleasure trying to help gents who contribute.

[Steve 9696]

Babylon Salzburg? Never been / not for me, but there are guys out there that climax everytime they hear the going rates (entrance fee 100 E / going rates start at 350 E /30 and up).

There are also Pascha, Casanova, Maison, Roemerbad, Vesuv, usw. Never been. Not even sure if they are kontaktbars, sauna clubs, laufhauses or closed. One of the best girls I met at GT Linz claimed she had been working at Roemerbad and liked it.

You are just a 2,5 hrs train ride + taxi from Wellcum. They have a big Easter Party on 8 April that I personally would avoid unless having made a reservation for a hotel room at the club (it will most probably be packed with girls and gents).

Thanks for the suggestions. I tried out Roemerbad and had a good time. It's small and def tier two girls. But had a brilliant time once I made friends with the locals. Drinks are included in the 60 cover and we pounded a bunch. One girl was pretty but a bust in the room and one was solid. At 60/hf you don't have much to lose. Best feature is girls can't approach so it's very mellow and low stress. Also just 10 mins from town so an easy choice.

[Sirioja]

Everything moves in cycles. I agree that now is not a good time to visit German clubs and I've not been back in a year as I've stopped making trips to Germany that focus on girls and clubs. However I'll be returning in a few weeks for another reason and will try out an RTC club or two for the few days I am there.

For almost ten years working girls have had the advantage, there's not been enough girls, too many clubs and too many men competing. With the economy taking a downturn everyone has to tighten their belts so I expect to see more clubs closing, less men being able to afford a visit and more girls starting in clubs as unemployment climbs.

Not in RTC nor in latinas club, but I still find natural real beauties, some with 0 tattoo. After covid is on higher level for me in Germany than from 2013 til covid except 2017 , when I m now pickier since covid lockdown.

[Downandup]

The golden years of great are long gone. Every several year or so, I like to make my visits to FKK, but every time I arrive, things keep changing. The pricing structure, the woman's attitude, degraded service, the scheming.

Its like its worst each time I return. It was fun while it lasted, will enjoy my final last fine Turkish dinning this Friday, and fly home. I hope you all find great experience, as my return to Germany has now ended definitely.

Everything moves in cycles. I agree that now is not a good time to visit German clubs and I've not been back in a year as I've stopped making trips to Germany that focus on girls and clubs. However I'll be returning in a few weeks for another reason and will try out an RTC club or two for the few days I am there.

For almost ten years working girls have had the advantage, there's not been enough girls, too many clubs and too many men competing. With the economy taking a downturn everyone has to tighten their belts so I expect to see more clubs closing, less men being able to afford a visit and more girls starting in clubs as unemployment climbs.

[Mr Ho]

The golden years of great are long gone. Every several year or so, I like to make my visits to FKK, but every time I arrive, things keep changing. The pricing structure, the woman's attitude, degraded service, the scheming.

Its like its worst each time I return. It was fun while it lasted, will enjoy my final last fine Turkish dinning this Friday, and fly home. I hope you all find great experience, as my return to Germany has now ended definitely.

Where do the woman go from here? They cannot stay pretty forever. Do they go back to Romania and collect pension? Or stay in Germany to collect pension? Do they go homeless? Does not take much in America to go homeless fast!

FYI. The up charges are not caused by the tourist or the Chinese, I mingled with great locals at GG, they say some of the girls are already asking for extras. It no wonder why so many clubs have shut down.

No money, no honey LOL! But the price still hold around 100 euro per 30 min is quite new thing, but 150 euro for one hour has been around for a while in FKK palace! The safe price haven NRW can be under the threat of upselling, but oceans always been upsell club anyways! Let us see with the golden gate that is kinda new GT and LR combined?

If it get that worst, then I goto Zurich! As price range will be same then I prefer to avoid the negotiation LOL!

[Sirioja]

The golden years of great are long gone. Every several year or so, I like to make my visits to FKK, but every time I arrive, things keep changing. The pricing structure, the woman's attitude, degraded service, the scheming.

Its like its worst each time I return. It was fun while it lasted, will enjoy my final last fine Turkish dinning this Friday, and fly home. I hope you all find great experience, as my return to Germany has now ended definitely.

Where do the woman go from here? They cannot stay pretty forever. Do they go back to Romania and collect pension? Or stay in Germany to collect pension? Do they go homeless? Does not take much in America to go homeless fast!

FYI. The up charges are not caused by the tourist or the Chinese, I mingled with great locals at GG, they say some of the girls are already asking for extras. It no wonder why so many clubs have shut down.

Germany still worth I push engine start every week end, meaning 250 € only for E85 and motorway to go and back and I don t count tires, oil or brakes I kill from more than 250 not to crash heavy Milo Venus in others. On this year, I rediscovered a girl at GG who improved so much as a now elegant woman and she never spoke about money with me, I think she prefer I return, even she is too often busy with long time bookings, not needing to hunt around for 30 mn rooms. When I find Sharks is falling for quality since February, but I saw 10 attractive looks at Oase and had already 3 100/30 rooms with full natural real beauties I don t see at Globe. Also have to discover few in NRW. When Globe is falling for quality when most looks don t worth the rate, but I look forward in Freubad garden for much less expensive with HH 199/60 . But now, I have to focus on my at least 7 days free ride tour wishing for good weather to see rocks and crevaces. I m not afraid to die for passion, but I prefer to see how and where. Already had great girls on this year, even disappointed I lost magic only French who love women can feel, but she killed magic with her Romanian pimped way.