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  1. #18760
    Quote Originally Posted by ExpatLover  [View Original Post]
    Sorry but I am not sure that so many girls in the FKK can understand the meaning of "won't bother or offend me", except I little answer like thanks sorry. I never talk to a girl I am not interested, when I am interested in a girl I don't talk too I take her to the room.
    I am with The Cane on this. I always have a discussion before I take a girl to the room. I learned this after several disappointments in the past where you get in the room, have started the session only to be told "I don't do x or why or z is extra". Better to get this all sorted out without a discussion in the room. And even that chat can then be a passion killer. If a girl doesn't want to invest 5 minutes or so with me to find out about likes / desires she isn't for me. But I normally don't take girls for short time other than "on trial" with a view to extending. So if I'm likely to be in the room 1-2 hours I want to know what is on the menu, and what's not.

    I too have had girls tell me "you've been here an hour and not taken any girls to the room. Why not". I reply with "that's up to me, when I find one I like I'll go, but I noticed you've been here for that hour and you didn't go to any rooms either. Why not". Has the effect of ending their barbed criticism fairly quickly.

  2. #18759
    Because you don't know that the prettiest girls in America don't dress up in public like Europeans. They are more casual, opting to wear less flattering athletic clothes in public. They also subscribe to the invite only social scene. Pretty women attend events that are worth their efforts, usually through close knit networks. In short, you didn't see them because you weren't invited.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    I was disappointed when I didn't see any playmate in Florida, from Arizona to Colorado and Utah, in Vegas or San Francisco, when I walked a lot in streets or with bicycle all around San Francisco to Sosalito, even waking up at 5 am to climb very steep and curvy narrow street, when cars go down, so I could see their lights when still night. On the other hand, I see daily beauties in Paris, nothing about escorts, but in streets. Sex with normal women in normal life have nothing to do with brothels, I never asked any of my girlfriend to suck me, I even avoided when some wanted, I don t even ask in brothels, I enjoy more to let girls do what they will to give me back, when I learned sex in normal life, based on love with women kissing You as much as their child when they love You, but not learning in porn which is not sex, nor in brothels, nor much with escorts, but I really enjoyed yesterday when so charming Ukrainian switch off her phone ringing about time finish, to let us taking all time to finish with no rush. Charming look and for behavior for a so sweet, delightful repeating. She really deserves my woman celebration love sex way and maybe why many return to me first, when I try to make same sex with escorts or in brothels than how I enjoyed previously in real life. I don t need to cure frustration about women.

  3. #18758
    Quote Originally Posted by ExpatLover  [View Original Post]
    I do the same, never speak with a girl, or I say sorry I am waiting for a girl or I just come back from the room or I take the girl to the room. Some girls are very rude and aggressive some told me that I am a gay because I spent several hours without a room others told me it is a brothel I have to go to the room. This kind of attitude is more and more taking place since 2017 before the things were different.
    I don't see difference about German 2017 new law, still natural BJ, still AO, still same sex for same rate with my behavior. I can speak with girls when they don t gossip bullshits when I m not interested about other guys, I don t drive to hear about other guys but to dream with beauty, but I don t speak paying time in room, I just pay for time for sex. Even covid didn't change my way for sex, still French kissing beauties I choose, when over 50, and I don't plan to stop, even I felt 1 year ago 3 months break made me become even more demanding and picky than I was already one of the pickiest before, and even with new mutants and no vaccine for me. I started this year on high level for charm and sweetness with really cute and very woman manners Ukrainian escort, when I'm usually not much crazy about Ukrainians who can't compete with Russians, but repeating with her even I'm quite busy about safety for my job and she seemed too busy, bad point for my desire, but wish to remain on her level on this year, even my best pleasure would be ski opening, to clean my lungs above 3000 meters high and to feel adrenaline, I miss so much.

  4. #18757

    Excuse me

    Quote Originally Posted by ExpatLover  [View Original Post]
    Sorry but I am not sure that so many girls in the FKK can understand the meaning of "won't bother or offend me", except I little answer like thanks sorry. I never talk to a girl I am not interested, when I am interested in a girl I don't talk too I take her to the room.
    But I didn't say that a lot of girls understood that. I was talking about a rare circumstance where I have a conversation of some length with a girl. If that's happening in a German FKK, then that means the conversation is going down in English. Which means that she full well understands if we have been comfortably communicating in English the whole while. Most of the tutes I meet in an FKK speak some English, and there is never a problem of getting across what I mean. If her understanding of English is weak, then a simple "no thank you" ordinarily does the trick. No need to lie about anything, like waiting for someone else. Just be a man and say what you mean, and mean what you say.

  5. #18756

    Anal Philippines

    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    Because she found out you were the butt man LOL! She got her shit pushed in by butt man LOL!
    Actually, I didn't get any anal in the Philippines. One of only two places where that has happened (the other being the UAE). My number of opportunities were extremely low in the PI anyway because I did not session much (simply not attracted to most Asian girls). I remember I was in the room in Angeles City with one Filipina and we were standing. I gently touched her butt and she said, "We're not doing anything there". She tried to make it up to me by setting up a dupla with a cute friend (she showed me a picture) who would let me go bareback and cum inside (I had already gone bareback with her but pulled out). I declined the dupla session, but for the wrong reason I suppose. You see, by that point in the trip I was exhausted and needed some sleep LOL!

  6. #18755
    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    My tactic is do not talk to them for more than 15 second LOL! It is Hi how are you, where are you from, no thank you, thank you for coming and they say something wonderful to me in Romanian language in very strong tone even though I was polite LOL!
    Mr. Ho is short with tutes LOL. It's rare for me to speak with a tute for any length of time and not session. But occasionally it does happen. But rarely initiated by me, so I feel no obligation. And if I do initiate, it's likely a girl I've been fucking, and who I will fuck again sometime. She knows that, likes me, and doesn't mind a little chitter chatter every now and then.

  7. #18754
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    Occasionally when I decline a session, I'll have a girl say something like, "But we've been talking for 15 minutes". I simply smile and say, "Hey, I know you're here to earn money. So, please feel free to leave at anytime. That won't bother or offend me". If I'm sitting comfortably somewhere, why should I be the one to move, especially since it's likely she approached me. No, no sale going down here, so she should move along should she choose to do so. I'm not holding her there. I was just being friendly and polite.
    Sorry but I am not sure that so many girls in the FKK can understand the meaning of "won't bother or offend me", except I little answer like thanks sorry. I never talk to a girl I am not interested, when I am interested in a girl I don't talk too I take her to the room.

  8. #18753
    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    My tactic is do not talk to them for more than 15 second LOL! It is Hi how are you, where are you from, no thank you, thank you for coming and they say something wonderful to me in Romanian language in very strong tone even though I was polite LOL!
    I do the same, never speak with a girl, or I say sorry I am waiting for a girl or I just come back from the room or I take the girl to the room. Some girls are very rude and aggressive some told me that I am a gay because I spent several hours without a room others told me it is a brothel I have to go to the room. This kind of attitude is more and more taking place since 2017 before the things were different.

  9. #18752
    Quote Originally Posted by ExpatLover  [View Original Post]
    She worked in a start up so was very busy, therefor I got plenty of time to mongering in Berlin. It is the same for the girls all day long they suck dicks and after they go home and kiss their BF or children. How many guys are fucking prostitutes, maitresses. And after go home kissing their children and spouse and saying they are exhausted and tired because they were so busy at their job.
    Yeah true that, men got to do what men got to do LOL!

    I can never stop mongering, this is for sure, it is this lust of mine for stunner beautiful girls one after the another every single year! When the new year begin, it is like wow what kind of and how many more new stunners enter my life this year that I am sure to going to fuck! It is sure thing for monger as long as we got will, money, info and alive LOL!

    Most people do not know the wicked way of our world! The world of professional flying monger LOL!

  10. #18751
    Quote Originally Posted by Mursenary  [View Original Post]
    Besides my group of mongers who I've come to consider real friends, I actually prefer talking to the older guys on solo club days. My favorite is a Colombian man who actually owns brothels in Colombia. He's a regular at Oase and every time I chat with him, I take dozens of mental notes on how to have longevity in this hobby while keeping your head on straight. He knows the dangers of the hobby / business but is humble enough to see the girls as real people. They're money grubbing sex dolls but some actually have grown into impressive women.
    Yeah some monger is lost in illusion and hallucination mixing those as fact LOL! Prostitutes are prostitutes and not princesses LOL! Some prostitutes are actually nice and I must say they are all fair enough as I always got what I wanted with acceptable fee of 150 euro per hour! Very few time, 200 euro, but I never regret or even more I am so glad that I session with these girls and grateful for the I cannot believe she just did that session! You know I like more hardcore dirty thing, so!

    I never start conversation from me in FKK, but with most visits, I meet very nice people and enjoy the chat! Some are old, and yes I never really had conversation with young people though! I do not know these guys read this forum or not, but I did enjoy the chat with an American guy from Idaho, who I met in palace and then Oase the next day, the guy from California who drove me back from GT to Duss HBF and gave me two bottle of mineral water as he was leaving, Chinese German guy in Artemis with very very long hair, some Arab guy I met in palace who bought me a cigar who was crazy LOL, and many more, and yeah some elderly men in their 70's or even more maybe who I came across who were so polite and pleasant to have some conversation with!

    I do not monger with my friends as this hobby of mine is strictly secret and only few of my friend knows about this, I know them since I am a kid, but I keep somethings to myself because unfortunately, this normal human nature of men called lust are not accepted in society and we men are still expected to live like a monk! Or maybe that is we expect to women too, so it is fair enough! But hey, we find women who are not for 50 euro per 30 min LOL!

    Whatta era we live in and maybe we are living and lived best era of mongering history! I would say around 2008 to 2017 was the best mongering ever has been in history! Given that western Europe namely Germany opened up so much sex business wise for our benefit! It was and still is the best era now! I think so!

    Before it was less stunner, brothels were not as good as in this recent years! Line up was old, service was unstable etc! So it is the best time now and lets enjoy it while it last!

  11. #18750
    Quote Originally Posted by Adindas  [View Original Post]
    Artemis FKK is overpriced because they do not have competitors. Berlin has PartyTreffs, GB parties, flatrate clubs, but they are in a different league so do not compete with Artemis.

    In NRW there are a lot of FKKs competing each other so they have to push the price down to remain competitive or will be out of business. Also, they get helped in revenue from people coming from Neighbouring countries such as France, The Netherlands, Belgium, who could do drive to that areas during the weekend. I wonder why FKKs business owners in NRW do not seise this opportunity and do expansion in Berlin?

    Berlin is on the other side of Germany. Not many local Berliner, local people or people from neighbouring countries will be visiting Artemis, due to the overpricing structure. But they got enough tourists, distance travellers, as Berlin is one of the most visited tourist destination in Germany.

    When I want to visit FKKs (not for other businesses) I will not go to Berlin, I prefer to travel to NRW or Frankfurt Am main areas.
    Yes, but NRW line up stunner never satisfy me, I found one or two, but it is after moving to few FKK in one day! And in GT, it is so packed with guys all the time LOL! Most day, it was like GT, then LR with discount entry ticket after GT and then I end up in oceans LOL! Like a professional stunner prostitute hunter LOL!

    There are few regulars in Artemis that are local, I came to know a few, and also most of these old folks on Monday are from local, they are retired people, but yes most are foreigners! However, it is in those upsell rip off club that I found stunner of stunner as they all go for the cashcow FKK! And as for service, I always managed to get what I want and I am into more hardcore session than most of other fellow mongers!

  12. #18749
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Reminds me of the 70 plus old guy who weighs over 100 kg who is in Sharks every day. He walks very slowly and only goes to the rooms downstairs. He goes to the room every day and has his favorites. His most favorite though is a Bulgarian girl. He is living what many men his age dream about.
    Yeah! I wish I be like that in my 60's and 70's, by the time, good medicine will be out to keep our libido and erection LOL!

    But some guys, very few can do many sessions without blue pills in their 70's I heard from girl!

  13. #18748
    Quote Originally Posted by AznHotBoy  [View Original Post]
    Last time in Artemis was 2014. There was a plenty natural beauties when I went, never had an issue with the LU. It's true there was also a lot of veterans, but not overwhelming since the LU was pretty big.

    There was one young blond Hungarian girl name Lucy I think. Definitely didn't look her age. Even for me being 24 at the time, it made me feel like a old dirty uncle taking her. She wasn't much of a performer but she did let me do everything I wanted to her. Didn't talk too much either, no noises, no complains, just laid there and let me have my way with her, seemed spaced out. Pretty sure I should've paid her for some extras but she didn't mention any. Maybe she was on drugs? But she seemed more active and aware at the bar.
    Yeah I had a girl like that once when she just began, she did not know much, so I was able to do it all for 60 euro for 30 min standard price session! Once in a while, those comes around!

    Yes, for me, it was 2014 or 2015 was last year of around 4 or 5 good natural beauty line up and it turns later to mostly plastic monster line up, so I switched to Hessen and nrw!

  14. #18747
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    Occasionally when I decline a session, I'll have a girl say something like, "But we've been talking for 15 minutes". I simply smile and say, "Hey, I know you're here to earn money. So, please feel free to leave at anytime. That won't bother or offend me". If I'm sitting comfortably somewhere, why should I be the one to move, especially since it's likely she approached me. No, no sale going down here, so she should move along should she choose to do so. I'm not holding her there. I was just being friendly and polite.
    My tactic is do not talk to them for more than 15 second LOL! It is Hi how are you, where are you from, no thank you, thank you for coming and they say something wonderful to me in Romanian language in very strong tone even though I was polite LOL!

  15. #18746
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Reminds me of the 70 plus old guy who weighs over 100 kg who is in Sharks every day. He walks very slowly and only goes to the rooms downstairs. He goes to the room every day and has his favorites. His most favorite though is a Bulgarian girl. He is living what many men his age dream about.
    Since I see him, he had different regulars, girls disappeared, when he was still visiting. When some guys don t have sex in room, but I wonder what can perform when can t walk. Same about some with fat and falling belly, much bigger than tool, how can they? When I remember girls telling about funny hole in paper to find in the Bush.

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