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  1. #24340
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    I always do PPM, tho you don't call it that with the girls I take. They def don't see themselves as pros (and mostly they are not) so it's a gift or allowance, even if one time thing. My mistress (yes I am now using that term) Shayla is an a exception to the rule. We dated pretty much weekly for 9 months. And then I moved her into an apt I pay for. We are very BFGF and she has said she doesn't mind paying for it but I'm not about to do that having this amazing girl (best sex of my life by far) available most any time is more than worth the rent. I never thought I'the achieve this level of BFGF at this point in my life (late 50's) but it feels totally real.

    So Seeking can def lead some interesting places. And I've felt like I scored on prob 35 of the 40+ girls I've slept with. With 5+ being long term keepers I can see any time I'm in town. In the US it's tough to get less than $400/ evening with most girls wanting 500 (I ignore girls over 500). Less elsewhere. US has a premium for its puritanical bent.

    Caveat: Seeking is a fuck ton of work to find and discern the gems amongst the scams and BS.
    With SA if you already know her for months, you could do BBFS for the whole day (?). That is truly BFGF.
    All people need to do is a quick test like people in AO parties are doing.

  2. #24339
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    I always do PPM, tho you don't call it that with the girls I take. They def don't see themselves as pros (and mostly they are not) so it's a gift or allowance, even if one time thing. My mistress (yes I am now using that term) Shayla is an a exception to the rule. We dated pretty much weekly for 9 months. And then I moved her into an apt I pay for. We are very BFGF and she has said she doesn't mind paying for it but I'm not about to do that having this amazing girl (best sex of my life by far) available most any time is more than worth the rent. I never thought I'the achieve this level of BFGF at this point in my life (late 50's) but it feels totally real.

    So Seeking can def lead some interesting places. And I've felt like I scored on prob 35 of the 40+ girls I've slept with. With 5+ being long term keepers I can see any time I'm in town. In the US it's tough to get less than $400/ evening with most girls wanting 500 (I ignore girls over 500). Less elsewhere. US has a premium for its puritanical bent.

    Caveat: Seeking is a fuck ton of work to find and discern the gems amongst the scams and BS.
    It sounds like you have a great setup for sure with Shayla. Something like that where you can meet almost anytime would be the best.

    And yup they don't like to call it ppm and sometimes that's a sticky spot too when you first try and meet a girl as some just want money / allowance and others want handbags.

    Your last line is what I hate the most. So many scammers and BS accounts.

  3. #24338
    Quote Originally Posted by SerpentX  [View Original Post]
    Since you are already in Austria, why not try wellcum or Vienna? Or go to Globe for guaranteed GFE. For just two nights, I don't think you can find anything better than a club in Spain or a FKK.
    My sentiments exactly. Steve, it seems you already found this idea attractive.

    Next time:

    Since you seemed to like Felina's and you got a little game, why not pursue further options in Barcelona?

    There are a dozen or more brothels like Felina's in Barcelona: Top Damas (private jacuzzi, a good brandy, and a cigar, and two girls anyone?)/ Perla Negra / La Suite / Apricots / Divas / La vie en Rose / Oxyzen, and plenty more. Add Barcelona's fantastic nightlife to the mix: CDLC, Opium Bar, and hundreds of nice tapas bars around town where you can enjoy your Estrella or cava (open all night / great spots to socialize!). That's how I roll when in Barcelona (been a while though). Avoid Barcelona's strip clubs (overpriced / poor performances / not worth it), but feel free to add Baghdad to the mix for the show only.

    Maybe not for you (more budget than quality), but I still think Spanish "highway clubs" are very underrated and undercommunicated on this forum. There are hundreds of them all over Spain. The largest is Club Paradise in La Jonquera (maybe the largest p4 p spot in Europe with over 200 girls at times). Should be on anyone's bucket list if you are the adventurous kind.

    Have fun!

    - S16.

    ps. Thanks for the great summary!

  4. #24337

    Good thoughts!

    Quote Originally Posted by SerpentX  [View Original Post]
    Since you are already in Austria, why not try wellcum or Vienna? Or go to Globe for guaranteed GFE. For just two nights, I don't think you can find anything better than a club in Spain or a FKK. I heard good things in Dubai but its quite far.
    So actually that's a great reminder. The optics and service at Globe when I went was spectacular. Closest to a sure thing I think plus it's a club experience. Also I can hit Aphrodisia for a kick. Or Amesia seems to get talked about some. So yeah Zurich is now a real front runner.

    (Wellcum seems to far in the middle of nowhere. And I did Vienna —Maxim and something that starts with a be like Bokem or something. Had nice experiences but not worth a special trip I don't think.).

  5. #24336
    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMoon22  [View Original Post]
    On SA do you mostly pay per meet or do an allowance if you have a regular girl? I've dabbled on there some but it's hit or miss for me. Some girls want the moon and I've seen as good as 500 a week with meeting 2-3 x a week which is the best I've seen for a hot chick but that is very rare.
    I always do PPM, tho you don't call it that with the girls I take. They def don't see themselves as pros (and mostly they are not) so it's a gift or allowance, even if one time thing. My mistress (yes I am now using that term) Shayla is an a exception to the rule. We dated pretty much weekly for 9 months. And then I moved her into an apt I pay for. We are very BFGF and she has said she doesn't mind paying for it but I'm not about to do that having this amazing girl (best sex of my life by far) available most any time is more than worth the rent. I never thought I'the achieve this level of BFGF at this point in my life (late 50's) but it feels totally real.

    So Seeking can def lead some interesting places. And I've felt like I scored on prob 35 of the 40+ girls I've slept with. With 5+ being long term keepers I can see any time I'm in town. In the US it's tough to get less than $400/ evening with most girls wanting 500 (I ignore girls over 500). Less elsewhere. US has a premium for its puritanical bent.

    Caveat: Seeking is a fuck ton of work to find and discern the gems amongst the scams and BS.

  6. #24335
    Quote Originally Posted by SerpentX  [View Original Post]
    Since you are already in Austria, why not try wellcum or Vienna? Or go to Globe for guaranteed GFE. For just two nights, I don't think you can find anything better than a club in Spain or a FKK. I heard good things in Dubai but its quite far.
    Globe is now more for porn than fresh GFE. Globe rules make more robots than fresh in mind for sex. Fortunately for me, I still find and make deep GFE, but elsewhere.

  7. #24334
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    PS Cost isnt really an issue, tho I morally cant bring myself to pay a girl more than $500 for an evening, much less an hour. (Cost of a hot seeking girl in US)
    On SA do you mostly pay per meet or do an allowance if you have a regular girl? I've dabbled on there some but it's hit or miss for me. Some girls want the moon and I've seen as good as 500 a week with meeting 2-3 x a week which is the best I've seen for a hot chick but that is very rare.

  8. #24333
    Since you are already in Austria, why not try wellcum or Vienna? Or go to Globe for guaranteed GFE. For just two nights, I don't think you can find anything better than a club in Spain or a FKK. I heard good things in Dubai but its quite far.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    So I'm going to get a couple days at Mystic FKK which is well reviewed. But if I have two more nights ANYWHERE in Europe what are your thoughts? Seriously anywhere. My preference goes something like:

    Simulated Bar / Nightclub pickup. Like Aphrodite (CH) or Scandalo (SP).

    FKK.

    Brothel with in person line up. Like Felinas (BCN).

    Thanks for any and all pointers.

  9. #24332

    Thanks and.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shark16  [View Original Post]
    Steve, you will get 100 different answers to that question depending on individual experience, budget, tastes and preferences.

    But I would like to counter that and asking what YOU would suggest based on your personal experiences. Seriously, you are one of the most travelled gents on this forum, and I highly doubt there are many here that can match that experience.
    Well thanks for that. But I am always open to learning. Here's my take on European stuff I've done of late. Bear in mind I am now poisoned forever by Seeking Arrangements. I've had over forty different girls that way and I love the date format. And I've had a handful of amazing gems, including my current mistress (23) and a girl in Vegas I absolutely adore (now 26) who Ive hooked up with off and on for three years.

    But. Since I get the GFE (in the true sense) at home I'm looking for the club experience abroad. I'm a bit jaded on the FKKS. Sharks doesn't do it for me anymore. I enjoyed a small club up near thesseldorf so hoping Mystik can deliver.

    Enjoyed Madrid doing Vive. Like the vibe. But pretty sure I got scoped and also slightly swindled by another girl so thinking twice about that. I enjoyed Estark 92 and Scandal in Costa del Sol but it was def not top notch. The beach vibe made up for it but I was hoping for more from the clubs. Enjoyed it at the time tho (this jaded thing sucks!

    I do really like the Diva escorts in London but it's just an hour or two vs a whole night of clubbing. Same with Felinas in Barcelona went a few years ago and adored it but come such a long way since then not sure the "hour and done" type venue is my thing.

    Think there are a few takeout clubs in Lisbon. Hear the talent isn't great but it's fun and I love Lisbon as a city. I suppose I could hit Aphrodite in Zurich for tons of pretty girls per square foot and the bar pickup vibe. I did enjoy it but at 280/ half (gulp) and fairly so so service not sure.

    Would love to go to Russia where the format is strip club but with paid sex on site. Great model. But alas that is out.

    Anyhow still open to suggestions but just writing this I think I want "full evening experiences" so need a club / bar / pickup scene. Fwiw because of Seeking I have pretty damn good game. So if there are places that have good semi pros willing to be coerced with a little cash by a charming guy I am down with that.

    PS Cost isnt really an issue, tho I morally cant bring myself to pay a girl more than $500 for an evening, much less an hour. (Cost of a hot seeking girl in US)

  10. #24331
    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    All these actors and such are getting arrested in USA for making girls suck and fuck them in wrong manner allegedly, in FKK you can do all that without those alleged accusations LOL!

    I have been flying penis better than thomahawk missiles since late 1990 s around globe penetrating into these stunner young beautiful girls of all different skin colors LOL!
    The LOS Angeles county district attorney is on a campaign against sex in the film industry while at the same time allowing gangs and violent crime to rise to insurmoutable levels.

  11. #24330
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    But if I have two more nights ANYWHERE in Europe what are your thoughts? Seriously anywhere.

    Thanks for any and all pointers.
    Steve, you will get 100 different answers to that question depending on individual experience, budget, tastes and preferences.

    But I would like to counter that and asking what YOU would suggest based on your personal experiences. Seriously, you are one of the most travelled gents on this forum, and I highly doubt there are many here that can match that experience.

  12. #24329

    OT: Where To?

    So I'm going to get a couple days at Mystic FKK which is well reviewed. But if I have two more nights ANYWHERE in Europe what are your thoughts? Seriously anywhere. My preference goes something like:

    Simulated Bar / Nightclub pickup. Like Aphrodite (CH) or Scandalo (SP).

    FKK.

    Brothel with in person line up. Like Felinas (BCN).

    Thanks for any and all pointers.

  13. #24328

    Arrests!

    All these actors and such are getting arrested in USA for making girls suck and fuck them in wrong manner allegedly, in FKK you can do all that without those alleged accusations LOL!

    I have been flying penis better than thomahawk missiles since late 1990 s around globe penetrating into these stunner young beautiful girls of all different skin colors LOL!

  14. #24327
    After jumping back on SA (and checking different areas in Germany) for a bit I remember why I just want to go to FKKs. Finding a good one SA (domestically or internationally) is about as big of a pain in the ass as dating. Lmao.

  15. #24326
    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    Meanwhile we get out dick sucked and fucked by young stunner girls in Globe Zurich during our WEF (World Erection Forum) at Schwerzenbach LOL!

    We take train as our undercover to hide our secret summit to accelerate our sex life to next level better than most of those attendants at Davos LOL!

    Schwerzenbach is where the worlds biggest swinging dick swing while we are winning LOL!
    Since 2021 , I don t see anymore wow beauties at Globe compare to what I see in other clubs. More expensive for less pretty, same like at Aphrodisia.

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