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[PaulInZurich]

Maybe it's not that simple.

I am not saying left wing good for prostitution, right wing bad, or the opposite. I am saying, it depends. Some examples:

The law that made Germany the brothel of Europe kicked in Jan 2002. This is the law that allowed the first FKKs to open (Colosseum 2004, Artemis 2005). Bundesrat majority at the time was red-green and chancellor was Gerd ("Putin is a flawless democrat") Schroeder. Only CDU / CSU voted against that law at the time. To their credit the CDU / CSU majority didn't repeal the law when they got in power, but I don't think they cared too much either way. After a review of the law in 2007 Ursula von der Leyen (CDU, very pro EU, at the time minister for family, women, youth) proposed the Swedish model. Luckily there was no support. The prostitution law of 2017 ("mandatory" condoms) was passed under a grande coalition (CDU / CSU, SPD) government. Don't know about RLD, but aren't most FKKs in Hessen and NRW. Both have CDU / greens coalition in power. Right leaning Bayern is a FKK waste land.

About Switzerland, funny that from the example both Geneva and Zuerich have left leaning coalitions in power since many years. Yet there are no FKKs in Geneva and plenty of them in Zuerich. Canton Bern is left leaning and has FKKs (Cleo). For a while in 2021 Cleo was the only large FKK allowed to be open in Switzerland in 2021.

Yeah, maybe it's not that simple.

[Mr Ho]

Contrary to popular belief on this forum, (naive Americans who believe the romantic socialist bullshit and who think that Green Socialists are at the forefront of defending prostitution) reality is that most capitalistic trade cities have the most prostitution and a long establish history of RLDs and FKK clubs.

Amsterdam, Antwerpen, Copenhagen, and Hamburg have big ports and a lot of commercial activity, and consequently they have centuries old Red Light Districts, even during times when social and religious norms were a lot more conservative and prudish. Amsterdam has a port and airport, the political capital is The Hague. Antwerpen has the port and RLD, Brussels is the political capital and no RLD. Frankfurt has long been the financial capital of Germany (stock exchange and big banks) and during the Cold War it was also quite close to the West German political capital city of Bonn, while Hamburg has a big port and also a lot of business activity. Guess where the RLDs and FKK clubs are (mostly) located in Germany. A similar case can be made for Zurich and Geneva (FKK clubs and high level escorts), while the political capital is some sleepy town called Bern.

Generally, as a rule of thumb;.

*) Trade, capitalism, business activity, the Christian Democrat and Libertarian parties (the old ones, like they were in the 1980's) = good for prostitution.

*) Welfare, Socialism, Eco-Fascists, Feminazis, Adolf Schwab Puppets, strong government control of society and the economy (see Sweden, Amsterdam now compared to 20 years ago) = bad for prostitution.

As always: "money talks, bullshit walks" and "no money, no honey," so don't trust the populist lies and electoral bullshit from the 'Green' (who fly in their private or government jets to Davos to get the latest instructions from Adolf Schwab) Neo-Communists who are clueless about actually making money or running a business, but who can only spend you hard-earned tax money after they rob you. These Marxists will lie about anything to get into power, and once they are in power you can expect the same as what happened in Sweden.

I'm not a big fan of Margaret Thatcher but she nailed it when she said: "The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.".

Geneva no longer have good escort agency, they used to have barabara agency that was real good! My first mongering experience back in the year 1999 summer LOL! But it disapeared in 2010's and now it is all question mark!

Come to think about it, I cannot even name good escort agency in Europe though!! What are the best escort agency in zurich, geneva and also in Germany?

[BlueMoon22]

Contrary to popular belief on this forum, (naive Americans who believe the romantic socialist bullshit and who think that Green Socialists are at the forefront of defending prostitution) reality is that most capitalistic trade cities have the most prostitution and a long establish history of RLDs and FKK clubs.

Amsterdam, Antwerpen, Copenhagen, and Hamburg have big ports and a lot of commercial activity, and consequently they have centuries old Red Light Districts, even during times when social and religious norms were a lot more conservative and prudish. Amsterdam has a port and airport, the political capital is The Hague. Antwerpen has the port and RLD, Brussels is the political capital and no RLD. Frankfurt has long been the financial capital of Germany (stock exchange and big banks) and during the Cold War it was also quite close to the West German political capital city of Bonn, while Hamburg has a big port and also a lot of business activity. Guess where the RLDs and FKK clubs are (mostly) located in Germany. A similar case can be made for Zurich and Geneva (FKK clubs and high level escorts), while the political capital is some sleepy town called Bern.

Generally, as a rule of thumb;.

*) Trade, capitalism, business activity, the Christian Democrat and Libertarian parties (the old ones, like they were in the 1980's) = good for prostitution.

*) Welfare, Socialism, Eco-Fascists, Feminazis, Adolf Schwab Puppets, strong government control of society and the economy (see Sweden, Amsterdam now compared to 20 years ago) = bad for prostitution.

As always: "money talks, bullshit walks" and "no money, no honey," so don't trust the populist lies and electoral bullshit from the 'Green' (who fly in their private or government jets to Davos to get the latest instructions from Adolf Schwab) Neo-Communists who are clueless about actually making money or running a business, but who can only spend you hard-earned tax money after they rob you. These Marxists will lie about anything to get into power, and once they are in power you can expect the same as what happened in Sweden.

I'm not a big fan of Margaret Thatcher but she nailed it when she said: "The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.".

Thanks for the well written post! Makes perfect sense reading that. As I browsed cities in Germany I was surprised some had more FKKs than others and this explains it well.

Also is Germany pretty well the best for FKK / Working gals in europe as far as quantity and legal? Germany is where I will be going as I have other things I plan to do but FKKs will be a big part of the visit and could hit some other countries close to Germany as well. Right now my focus is mainly Frankfurt for FKKs. I want to go to Berlin as well and maybe go to Artemis.

[Mr Ho]

Why does Frankfurt have so many more FKKs than Berlin? Or it seems that way anyways.

Finance capital, but not the capital, that is why!

Berlin is political capital and it is the capital of Germany, so they try to keep it clean I guess!

But Artemis by far has the best facility in Germany! Line up is bit odd sometimes due to inhabitants of plastic monsters with graffitti on their body!

[HammerTime96]

Why does Frankfurt have so many more FKKs than Berlin? Or it seems that way anyways.

Contrary to popular belief on this forum, (naive Americans who believe the romantic socialist bullshit and who think that Green Socialists are at the forefront of defending prostitution) reality is that most capitalistic trade cities have the most prostitution and a long establish history of RLDs and FKK clubs.

Amsterdam, Antwerpen, Copenhagen, and Hamburg have big ports and a lot of commercial activity, and consequently they have centuries old Red Light Districts, even during times when social and religious norms were a lot more conservative and prudish. Amsterdam has a port and airport, the political capital is The Hague. Antwerpen has the port and RLD, Brussels is the political capital and no RLD. Frankfurt has long been the financial capital of Germany (stock exchange and big banks) and during the Cold War it was also quite close to the West German political capital city of Bonn, while Hamburg has a big port and also a lot of business activity. Guess where the RLDs and FKK clubs are (mostly) located in Germany. A similar case can be made for Zurich and Geneva (FKK clubs and high level escorts), while the political capital is some sleepy town called Bern.

Generally, as a rule of thumb;.

*) Trade, capitalism, business activity, the Christian Democrat and Libertarian parties (the old ones, like they were in the 1980's) = good for prostitution.

*) Welfare, Socialism, Eco-Fascists, Feminazis, Adolf Schwab Puppets, strong government control of society and the economy (see Sweden, Amsterdam now compared to 20 years ago) = bad for prostitution.

As always: "money talks, bullshit walks" and "no money, no honey," so don't trust the populist lies and electoral bullshit from the 'Green' (who fly in their private or government jets to Davos to get the latest instructions from Adolf Schwab) Neo-Communists who are clueless about actually making money or running a business, but who can only spend you hard-earned tax money after they rob you. These Marxists will lie about anything to get into power, and once they are in power you can expect the same as what happened in Sweden.

I'm not a big fan of Margaret Thatcher but she nailed it when she said: "The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.".

[BlueMoon22]

Why does Frankfurt have so many more FKKs than Berlin? Or it seems that way anyways.

[Mr Ho]

I have the impression that more (but not very many) people on this forum are a bit more street-smart and are a little bit more able to think for themselves, but I agree that all the autobahn, skiing and mountain climbing shit is fucking irritating, especially because it's constantly interwoven with other off-topic stuff about different clubs, different girls and different eras. The users on the German forum are more like sheep and run after the Leader Sheep. The only thing relevant on the German forum is the current line-up information, the rest like the (trip) reports is all very subjective garbage, heavily censored to make some people and clubs look good. Too much overall complaining about high prices and poor service = censored, so it gives a very distorted impression of reality IMHO.

The funny thing is that these Germans think they are soooo 'clever,' so you can only see the latest posts when you have enough Fuhrer-Ass-Licking-Credits in the form of "likes. " So what I do is once in a while write some kind of bullshit 'report' in the style that I know that the moderators and all the fanboys like, harvest a few "likes," and then I can continue to read again for a couple of weeks. LOL! And even if they kick me off, I just don't care. I've been enough to FKK clubs to know roughly what the line-up is like, I don't need a list of 40-50 names of which 90% are names from girls that I don't care about, I just need a few of my favourites present, which is almost always the case. Besides, whether or not my favourites are actually available (or instead booked for many hours by a customer) when I'm finally in a club is something that no forum can predict anyway, so again, it just gives people a rough idea nothing more.

P.S: 50 said it right, every words for FKK LOL.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQb27MUP2k4

[Mr Ho]

I have the impression that more (but not very many) people on this forum are a bit more street-smart and are a little bit more able to think for themselves, but I agree that all the autobahn, skiing and mountain climbing shit is fucking irritating, especially because it's constantly interwoven with other off-topic stuff about different clubs, different girls and different eras. The users on the German forum are more like sheep and run after the Leader Sheep. The only thing relevant on the German forum is the current line-up information, the rest like the (trip) reports is all very subjective garbage, heavily censored to make some people and clubs look good. Too much overall complaining about high prices and poor service = censored, so it gives a very distorted impression of reality IMHO.

The funny thing is that these Germans think they are soooo 'clever,' so you can only see the latest posts when you have enough Fuhrer-Ass-Licking-Credits in the form of "likes. " So what I do is once in a while write some kind of bullshit 'report' in the style that I know that the moderators and all the fanboys like, harvest a few "likes," and then I can continue to read again for a couple of weeks. LOL! And even if they kick me off, I just don't care. I've been enough to FKK clubs to know roughly what the line-up is like, I don't need a list of 40-50 names of which 90% are names from girls that I don't care about, I just need a few of my favourites present, which is almost always the case. Besides, whether or not my favourites are actually available (or instead booked for many hours by a customer) when I'm finally in a club is something that no forum can predict anyway, so again, it just gives people a rough idea nothing more.

Some of us are street smart, that is why we turned monger, and some are street smart so they turned pimps that some of them make millions, but very few!

However professional mongers are smartest as pimps are doing job for us that we do not want to do, we just have to pay small amount of money to have honeymoon level sex with girls in their prime age of let say 18 to 30 ish, preferably 25 ish at max age, then we dump them to the sorry as husbands who take them more seriously than just best sex like we had LOL!

Literally, they can lick my anal ass LOL!

[HammerTime96]

The flip side is that this forum is sadly irrelevant in many ways (hey, do we need all the repetitive autobahn and skiing discussions even in club threads? Or the irrelevant comments from guys that have not attended the clubs since before the pandemic?).

I have the impression that more (but not very many) people on this forum are a bit more street-smart and are a little bit more able to think for themselves, but I agree that all the autobahn, skiing and mountain climbing shit is fucking irritating, especially because it's constantly interwoven with other off-topic stuff about different clubs, different girls and different eras. The users on the German forum are more like sheep and run after the Leader Sheep. The only thing relevant on the German forum is the current line-up information, the rest like the (trip) reports is all very subjective garbage, heavily censored to make some people and clubs look good. Too much overall complaining about high prices and poor service = censored, so it gives a very distorted impression of reality IMHO.

The funny thing is that these Germans think they are soooo 'clever,' so you can only see the latest posts when you have enough Fuhrer-Ass-Licking-Credits in the form of "likes. " So what I do is once in a while write some kind of bullshit 'report' in the style that I know that the moderators and all the fanboys like, harvest a few "likes," and then I can continue to read again for a couple of weeks. LOL! And even if they kick me off, I just don't care. I've been enough to FKK clubs to know roughly what the line-up is like, I don't need a list of 40-50 names of which 90% are names from girls that I don't care about, I just need a few of my favourites present, which is almost always the case. Besides, whether or not my favourites are actually available (or instead booked for many hours by a customer) when I'm finally in a club is something that no forum can predict anyway, so again, it just gives people a rough idea nothing more.

It's a give and take. I read both ISG and local forums. They sort of complement each other. I also take everything I read with a grain of salt. Both here and there. It's healthy. Nothing beats being on the ground yourself making your own personal experiences.

Agreed and as you pointed out in the first comment I quoted: many here are very opinionated without having stepped inside an FKK club since 2019.

Trying to educate each other without getting into personal fights.

The problem is that many here come for information and tips, and then decide to act completely opposite to the information and tips that they are handed in a silver platter. Whether it's pricing, tipping, or in general on how to behave with WGs and not be ripped off by all their upselling tactics and thus overpaying for standard sessions. I have nothing against sex tourists but "when in Rome, act like the Romans" is something that many just don't want to understand, and when you point this out they immediately feel 'insulted' like a real snowflake and simp.

I hope I am forgiven for quoting a 10 yo report. At least it was done in the lounge and not in the club thread. LOL!

Hahaha, yes of course you're 'forgiven. ' I had completely forgotten about HB and I thought it was funny (for old time's sake) to be reminded of him and his nonstop plugging of a few Frankfurt clubs. LOL!

[Mr Ho]

I never said "OLD", I said "PRIME!" There is a difference. When you are in your prime it is when you are at the top of your game. Not necessarily a rookie in this hobby, when you are "young, dumb, and full of cum. " You would have accumulated years of experience and approach the venue as a seasoned pro and not be played by the girls. If you act like you were in your 20's, you will be taken for a chump and an easy mark. Play it like Samuel L. Jackson and you will be fine. I bet when you picked the 6 girls in a row, you were not being too selective. Quantity, not quality. Now, you should focus more on quality sessions. Sure, pick the prettiest girls, but I think some prettiest girls or "OPTIFIKS" do not provide the best service. There are some girls that are both pretty and are good providers. That is what you should seek. Just be upfront on what you are after. Base service is 100 Euros /30 min. I think that if you want BBBJ and kissing, you will be looking at 150/30. Costs will add up quickly if you add CIM or ANAL. Read the latest here to confirm the current price for service. The scammers will try to milk the most out of you and try to finish you off quickly. Cheating time or promised services. Just remember, the girls can sniff out a first time FKK'er and will do her best to separate you from your Euros. Good luck!

FiddyCent.

When we are in our 60's or 70's there will be better medicine than blue pills, but blue pills already are working great, so imagine the new invention will be LOL!

Either way, I will still goto FKK or such to fuck young stunner girls LOL! In the worst case, I still lick them and make them lick and suck my dick and lick my anal LOL!

[Sirioja]

What is this Amesia club near zurich, it seems the rates are more than globe! So does that mean better service and better line up than globe? Or the facility being better make them charge more or?

Free entry and soft drinks at Amesia ex Bumsalp. You can give a look to casting for free when I often pay 95 and leave with no room at Globe. Had a 18 yo wow full natural Swiss on 2022 there. Higher level for a guy like me than Globe on 2019 and since 2021.170/30 but I often got more time. Very flexible desk, not Globe desk little guy trying to fuck about time. Had really enjoyable times at Amesia. I preferred to pay entry 70 with free foods before covid, when CHF was less than € .

[FiddyCent]

I'm not old. But don't have the drive I did in my early 20's. I can't imagine going to an FKK with the sex drive I had back then. I could do 6 girls in a row. Lmao!

I will def play it slow with time being on my side and lots of good choices of women. Sometimes if the choices aren't great you latch on to the hottest one you can find ASAP. I plan to spend quite awhile in the clubs if it's a good time. Bang a chick, chill and enjoy eye candy, bang another, grab some food, chill, pop a viagra and bang another. : the.

I never said "OLD", I said "PRIME!" There is a difference. When you are in your prime it is when you are at the top of your game. Not necessarily a rookie in this hobby, when you are "young, dumb, and full of cum. " You would have accumulated years of experience and approach the venue as a seasoned pro and not be played by the girls. If you act like you were in your 20's, you will be taken for a chump and an easy mark. Play it like Samuel L. Jackson and you will be fine. I bet when you picked the 6 girls in a row, you were not being too selective. Quantity, not quality. Now, you should focus more on quality sessions. Sure, pick the prettiest girls, but I think some prettiest girls or "OPTIFIKS" do not provide the best service. There are some girls that are both pretty and are good providers. That is what you should seek. Just be upfront on what you are after. Base service is 100 Euros /30 min. I think that if you want BBBJ and kissing, you will be looking at 150/30. Costs will add up quickly if you add CIM or ANAL. Read the latest here to confirm the current price for service. The scammers will try to milk the most out of you and try to finish you off quickly. Cheating time or promised services. Just remember, the girls can sniff out a first time FKK'er and will do her best to separate you from your Euros. Good luck!

FiddyCent.

[BlueMoon22]

It's never too late my friend! I channel Samuel L. Jackson. Be cool! You will find plenty of girls who will satisfy. Take no shit! You the Boss! If you are in relatively good shape, you should have the stamina. Just rest between sessions. Most of the time, I let the girls do all the work. In between sessions, it never hurts to have a girl sit down beside you to chat. She is anxious to get you into the room. You just chill and go at your own pace. I will tell the girl that I just finished in the room and need time to recharge. Take her name and find her later. They are always the ones chasing you. There is always someone "hotter" that comes along, so don't chase them. Girls will talk amongst themselves and will identify you as an easy Mark. Resist your urge and never let your little head take charge of your big head.

FiddyCent.

I'm not old. But don't have the drive I did in my early 20's. I can't imagine going to an FKK with the sex drive I had back then. I could do 6 girls in a row. Lmao!

I will def play it slow with time being on my side and lots of good choices of women. Sometimes if the choices aren't great you latch on to the hottest one you can find ASAP. I plan to spend quite awhile in the clubs if it's a good time. Bang a chick, chill and enjoy eye candy, bang another, grab some food, chill, pop a viagra and bang another. : the.

[Mr Ho]

What is this Amesia club near zurich, it seems the rates are more than globe! So does that mean better service and better line up than globe? Or the facility being better make them charge more or?

[Sirioja]

Meh, I would take anything that HB has posted years ago with a extra large portion of salt.

A little bird once told me that HB was (or still is?) a moderator for a German forum that heavily promotes a few selected clubs in the Frankfurt area, and that he and his moderator buddies also heavily censor and delete any comments that criticise those 'protected from above' Frankfurt clubs.

*) A lot of people criticising German politics, a club's management, or the high prices for low service levels in an existing thread = comments quickly removed because "zis is nott part of zee toopik. ".

*) So then people open a new thread to discuss German politics, a club's management, or high prices for low service levels, which then quickly becomes a popular thread and gains traction among users = quickly brings out the "Thread closed" icon because "zis is nott relefant too zee fooroom, wie've hat zis diskuschion befor und vie vill nott hef it agen!

That's German 'freedom' of speech for you after 3,75 dictatorships in 150 years, LOL!

Yes, on lustcout. De. Funny, some write but pay more expensive for real. Quality is always less expensive for me than average quality I hate to waste for. Some Germans pay more than 1000 to 1500 for not wow looks at Sharks, for real, reported by Germans.