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  1. #17758

    Sugar Dating is Different. Both are Great.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sebastiane  [View Original Post]
    She wasn't an escort but a SB on all the occasions I've done that. Twice was a university student, one was an ex ballerina, and the most beautiful of all was a journalist.
    There are clearly as many types of guys as you can imagine. But here it's clear there are at least two broad categories: Guys who want to just have sex and guys who want a "girlfriend experience". And by GFE here I mean more than DFK and BBBJ. I mean an emotional "feels like a girlfriend" experience. I know this is laughable to the "just have sex" guys but please don't judge. Some guys need both halves.

    To be fair there are guys in the middle also. In fact FKK is a great middle ground. If you simply went in and saw a lineup (or a fishbowl like they have in parts of Asia) grab a girl and fuck it would not be nearly as awesome as FKK. The FKK is an EXPERIENCE and that is about more than just sex. You are enjoying the atmosphere. The feel of all the girls wanting to take you. There is no arguing there is a powerful emotional component to FKK.

    And I would agree FKK is one of two best formats on the planet for a hybrid of sex and some emotion for type 1 guys with some type 2 leanings. The Boate of Brazil is the other (feels like a regular nightclub but all the girls are pro / semi and has onsite rooms).

    But there is a whole nuther world of type 2 guys. Guys who enjoy full GFE and that is found in Sugar Daddy Sugar Baby dating like Seeking Arrangements. (There is a thread for this under General Dating Agencies). Whoever said paying a pro for dinner dates and overnights is a bad deal is right. It's definitely fake and prohibitively expensive. But SBSD is the perfect itch scratcher for type 2 guys. The girls (done right) are non-pro or semi-pro. There is real chemistry (or so good you can't tell) and emotion and a very girlfriendy vibe. And of course waaaay more time together, for a manageable cost. (Remember an HOUR in the US with a pretty pro is $400 and up - ouch!).

    For those that remember the flying Thifany to London experience this goes to show the two sides. In Brazil we spent time together in the Boate. A night club experience but primarily sex. And London was primarily a girlfriend experience (full week together) and sex as part of it. For some guys this is where it's at and I am one of them.

    I love FKK and I love the Boate. And Moscow and Japan and Thailand and will never stop doing them (Covid willing) but I truly love the Sugar Baby scene. I am a type 2 guy like some of the others speaking up here. Recently I arranged to fly a girl I was with for two nights in December to another city where we will spend the weekend together. I know this sounds so strange and not worth it to Type 1 guys. But for those who are type 2 there is nothing finer than kicking about together and then bringing it full circle to sex at the end of the night (and again in the morning!). This is completely addictive for a type 2 like me. (PS I didn’t know I was a type 2 until the Thifany experience and then I was hooked).

    But as soon as I can travel I will join you at Sharks ALSO. Let's all enjoy ALL the formats. And thank our lucky stars they exist! See you guys at Sharks!

  2. #17757
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    For me dinner, cinema, shopping, long chats, etc. only make sense with a girl who is knowledgeable and a good conversationalist; I've not met any escort of that nature. Wining and dining an educated professional can be fun in itself but not getting any after the expense is BS and is the norm.
    I just want stunner level beautiful girls whom I can fuck and fuck me also in anyways that I desire on that day which I happily get and been getting since age 17 LOL!

    I can have good conversation with my friends whether they are man, woman or whatever, but to fuck I need many different stunner level beauties one after another every year! I do not need to talk to these girls, I want to have best sex with them that echoes in eternity and hey, it echoed still LOL! I got memories everywhere! This is what matters to me!

    I also quote Karl Lagerfeld said that I also like and resonate with "I do not like to sleep with people I love!

  3. #17756
    Quote Originally Posted by ExpatLover  [View Original Post]
    EL: I was married 25 years, lived with my ex 30+ years without going to another girl, after that 15 years of mongering with 1000+ experiences. Since 2018 it is more and more difficult more me to find young, fresh, natural beauties in the FKK, some possibilities still exist in German escort agencies but also more and more hard. May be also I am looking for something I can't find so I protect myself from the sex addiction, nevertheless since that I drastically reduced my FKK visits and escorting, in 2019 for example probably 10 FKK visits, 0 room.

    I don't want a fix relation, the way it works now, several nice long weekends through the year, with one of the 2 beautiful girls, we know each other very well, 0 stress just happy to meet and have good time together they are free and I am free.

    I guess you are from Japan or at least Asia, please don't tell me that listening is bullshit, this is really part of this sophisticated culture, listening, speaking, explaining.
    Yes, listening is important in most cultures, but I am saying I do not want to listen to bullshit of prostitutes to begin with, but also I do not like to listen to normal women if I have a choice, so escort and FKK works great for me though I do have to listen a bit LOL, but it is limited comparison to normal date scene as FKK and escort is mainly pay to sex culture and no courting is required though some monger pay to do that, to make her act as girlfriend!

    Early 2010's had better line up, and me too have difficulty to find, but as I wrote earlier, I am like a sharp shooter, I spend hours till I find someone to session with and this is no exaggeration, yes hours! LOL.

    Sex addiction is good thing as long as you do not break law or disturb others, I love sex and I can never get enough of young stunner girls to fuck, but I must admit, I am so used to fucking most beautiful girls that my hurdle is so high for beauty and service quality I want!

  4. #17755
    Quote Originally Posted by Alessandro527  [View Original Post]
    I guess there are two categories of mongers. Those who see all women like holes and those who want something more like EL.

    I like something more too in order to create the right chemistry to boost my sexual desire for the girl but I wouldn't do all that shopping and dinner thing. It is too fake for me when I know it is all about money.

    I believe those who go in FKK and see them like holes have failed with women in real life and feel special just by fucking prostitutes.
    Chemistry is there once the talk begin or there is not, so no need for dinner and bullshit talking, in FKK I has one of most amazing sex with chemistry, but there was no need to go to shopping or dinner or talk some bullshit, just need to discuss a bit about service and general chit chat is enough to build chemistry, and sometimes girls shows you pic of her life back home, but I do not like it or dislike it or hate it as I am not too into it, and beside photos, I do not believe too much in what they say, I mean in most cases we do not even know their real names are real or not LOL!

  5. #17754
    Quote Originally Posted by Alessandro527  [View Original Post]
    A high class escort will not be happy with 400 euros. That is just for the expensive dinner, not to mention the presents for shopping. Why would I go shopping with a prostitute to expensive shops anyway? The entire experience including dinner, shopping and a night with a high class could reach 4-5 k easily. I prefer a girlfriend sorry even if she doesn't have the stunning look of the escort.
    She wasn't an escort but a SB on all the occasions I've done that. Twice was a university student, one was an ex ballerina, and the most beautiful of all was a journalist.

  6. #17753
    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    Why don't you get normal girlfriend? LOL!

    For me, I do not like all this dinner, shopping, listening to bullshits etc, so I like escorts and FKK, I want go directly to best sex LOL!
    I guess there are two categories of mongers. Those who see all women like holes and those who want something more like EL.

    I like something more too in order to create the right chemistry to boost my sexual desire for the girl but I wouldn't do all that shopping and dinner thing. It is too fake for me when I know it is all about money.

    I believe those who go in FKK and see them like holes have failed with women in real life and feel special just by fucking prostitutes.

  7. #17752
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    For me dinner, cinema, shopping, long chats, etc. only make sense with a girl who is knowledgeable and a good conversationalist; I've not met any escort of that nature. Wining and dining an educated professional can be fun in itself but not getting any after the expense is BS and is the norm.
    I agree, and I haven't met any either, except one.

    99 % have very low education and they just want to squeeze as much as they can.

  8. #17751
    Quote Originally Posted by Sebastiane  [View Original Post]
    True but it is a great experience. I've had a few experiences like that with sugar babies and the cost was about 350-450 euros so not so much. In Berlin once when I was feeling extravagant it cost more because I stayed at a 5 star Schlosshotel with an ex ballerina I met on Seeking. That was an expensive evening but unforgettable. Fine dining dinner with champagne, cigar in the cigar lounge, nice sex, condoms brought by room service since we ran out!
    A high class escort will not be happy with 400 euros. That is just for the expensive dinner, not to mention the presents for shopping. Why would I go shopping with a prostitute to expensive shops anyway? The entire experience including dinner, shopping and a night with a high class could reach 4-5 k easily. I prefer a girlfriend sorry even if she doesn't have the stunning look of the escort.

  9. #17750

    Odd?

    Isn't it odd when someone who prefers escorts, not FKKs, posts mostly on the FKK Forums, not on the Escorts / general forums? Maybe some value-added posts (from him) in the Escorts forum could be helpful to the fellow mongers.

  10. #17749

    Intelligence

    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    For me dinner, cinema, shopping, long chats, etc. only make sense with a girl who is knowledgeable and a good conversationalist; I've not met any escort of that nature. Wining and dining an educated professional can be fun in itself but not getting any after the expense is BS and is the norm.
    It's too bad you can't say you've ever met a working girl with those qualities, especially given how long you say you've been mongering. Since the 70's! Well, I most certainly have met many working girls who are knowledgeable and know how to hold an intelligent conversation. That said, given where I met them, I wasn't interested in dating them or anything like that. Let's just keep it in the club or wherever we met. And then let's just have sex. Maybe I will see you the next time. And maybe I won't. Seems to me that if you've been patronizing tutes since the 70's, but say you've never met a knowledgeable one, that you just haven't been willing to give anybody a chance, and don't care to. That's fine too though. After all, at the end of the day, most of us mongers just want a good fuck at a fair price, and that's it!

  11. #17748
    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    Why don't you get normal girlfriend? LOL!

    For me, I do not like all this dinner, shopping, listening to bullshits etc, so I like escorts and FKK, I want go directly to best sex LOL!
    For me dinner, cinema, shopping, long chats, etc. only make sense with a girl who is knowledgeable and a good conversationalist; I've not met any escort of that nature. Wining and dining an educated professional can be fun in itself but not getting any after the expense is BS and is the norm.

  12. #17747
    EL: I was married 25 years, lived with my ex 30+ years without going to another girl, after that 15 years of mongering with 1000+ experiences. Since 2018 it is more and more difficult more me to find young, fresh, natural beauties in the FKK, some possibilities still exist in German escort agencies but also more and more hard. May be also I am looking for something I can't find so I protect myself from the sex addiction, nevertheless since that I drastically reduced my FKK visits and escorting, in 2019 for example probably 10 FKK visits, 0 room.

    I don't want a fix relation, the way it works now, several nice long weekends through the year, with one of the 2 beautiful girls, we know each other very well, 0 stress just happy to meet and have good time together they are free and I am free.

    I guess you are from Japan or at least Asia, please don't tell me that listening is bullshit, this is really part of this sophisticated culture, listening, speaking, explaining.

  13. #17746
    Quote Originally Posted by Alessandro527  [View Original Post]
    All this sounds nice and romantic but it costs too much. Dinner and presents and expensive hotel in addition to her fee for her time with you? Is it really worth it just to empty your balls?

    It is not your real life girlfriend but just another prostitute.
    True but it is a great experience. I've had a few experiences like that with sugar babies and the cost was about 350-450 euros so not so much. In Berlin once when I was feeling extravagant it cost more because I stayed at a 5 star Schlosshotel with an ex ballerina I met on Seeking. That was an expensive evening but unforgettable. Fine dining dinner with champagne, cigar in the cigar lounge, nice sex, condoms brought by room service since we ran out!

  14. #17745
    Quote Originally Posted by ExpatLover  [View Original Post]
    EL: sorry but I can't agree with you, for me having a appointment with a escort or a girl I know, first having a nice diner together, may be some shopping, discussing together, and after going in a nice hotel, spending the night together without any rush, stress. This experience is far above any FKK visit. I never do this with a girl I meet the first time, we need to have some chemistry and positive connections.
    Why don't you get normal girlfriend? LOL!

    For me, I do not like all this dinner, shopping, listening to bullshits etc, so I like escorts and FKK, I want go directly to best sex LOL!

  15. #17744
    EL: sorry for my poor writing, no there is no cost for the ex working girls, they will never accept to be paid, they quit the job and are very proud of that.

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