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  1. #17185

    OT: Guide to Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by BaltiX  [View Original Post]
    All this talk of strip clubs reminds me of the time when strip clubs...
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    All this talk of strip clubs and the omission of Russia leads me here. If U want a strip club and on-site sex then Moscow is for you! The below was my intro to the Russian scene my second trip there. I have write ups of year two and three with lots of useful details. Just message me if you are considering a trip want those installments. I am actually writing a book more for fun than anything. So I have chapters on Brazil, Thailand and elsewhere if anyone cares to ask.

    Russia. Moscow.

    The Landscape.

    Like all countries, many options exist. But in Russia I stick to the strip clubs. Please do not confuse these with the lame clubs you find in the US and elsewhere. The proper clubs in Moscow are set up for onsite sex; and the real purpose of the club is to broker that. You have to be a bit careful, because some clubs are look and feel only -- no sex -- so you need the secret decoder ring as to the ones that are best. Fortunately I will provide that for you!

    Welcome to Russia. Escalation -- Zazhigalka, Golden Girls, and Korston.

    My first time in Moscow, I didn't even know P4 P existed. My second time, I saw the light, but only via a new friend made from my glass-half-full optimism. I started out at a club that is just look and feel called Zazhigalka. As strip clubs go, it was very, very good and I had a blast. I arrived at 9, right when it opened, and I was the ONLY guy in the club. All eyes were on me! Probably 25 girls. Really sort of a 6-7 looks-rating kind of crowd -- no stunners, but some very pretty girls. Two girls hit me up (a 6 and an 8) and we had some great duo dances -- fully nude and no real restrictions on touching tits and ass or drinking while fully nude, unlike the US fully-nudes, which I find distinctly lame.

    So I thought that was really good, but I clearly had no idea. The next night I went to a club called Golden Girls. It opens at 10 and I was there about 9:45. So being the outgoing guy I am, I start up a conversation with two guys at the door waiting to get in. (I can't emphasize enough how being friendly and unafraid is of great value when it comes to finding great venues for women and frankly life in general).

    Well, one of the guys is a district sales manager for a large European company and the other is his local director of sales. We hit it off right away and he asks me to join them. He breezes us into the club with his VIP card and we immediately sit down and he orders hookah and drinks all around. I tried to pay a couple times, but he pretty much covered everything. Has girls coming and smoking hookah with us -- just one big party. He tells me his sales manager, who works for him, is forbidden to drink and will be our chauffeur! LOL. You see, he says, this club is the warm up club -- super pretty girls, but no sex. Then we will drive across town and go to the club with sex. Ok, I'm in!

    We drink and hookah and ogle and take a girl to the back room from time to time and get quite worked up. They are SUPER pretty 8's and 9's, though a bit too Nordic for my taste mostly. Nonetheless I find one raven-haired beauty with the most perfect see cup tits that I sample extensively. After a couple hours of good clean fun, we pile into the Range Rover with our designated driver and head across town to Korston. Korston is small and considerably more lowbrow, but it's the traditional brothel-strip-club format I've since come to know and love.

    The format is the following. Yes, it's a strip club, like you have in the US with a girl pole-dancing. What is different is, when she comes off stage she will go in turn to each guy and try to get a quick lap dance. The dance is only like 1-2 minutes right there on your chair, BUT you get full tit and ass hands-on action and you only tip $3! (some guys even do $1. 50 LOL). So you get to sample a TON of women. Generally, I try them all as they seem quite disappointed when you don't and at $3, why not? Of course the point of the dance is not the dance. She wants to seduce you and take you to the room and fuck you!

    So we settle in at Korston and get some dances. But at some point, I can't find what I want and separate from the guys to go looking upstairs. Upstairs is a completely different thing with girls lounging about and relaxing. I happen upon an amazing little spinner with an apple bottom and the most dreamy brown eyes despite here platinum hair. I particularly recall her butt, because even with her limited English she says "My butt is like an I-phone -- it's an Apple".

    Long story short, we have a really nice time, but when I go to find the guys they are long gone. I inquire about a bit and learn they had to leave, so I am on my own. It's 2 AM and I have a flight in 3 hours! No taxis handy, so I take a ride to my hotel with a random Russian dude the club grabbed for me (unwise in retrospect!) and shower and get straight on the plane! Whew, that was a bit nerve racking. But fortunately I had a lovely young lady in several positions and I now know the Russian strip club sex deal -- and so do you! It will serve me well on my next trip. But thats the subject of installment 2!

  2. #17184
    Quote Originally Posted by GuyBrusg1957  [View Original Post]
    I've never seen or heard of anything good for Poland, Belgium, Denmark, Czechia, France, Norway or Sweden. I've only heard horror stories about poverty stricken escorts in Greece and escorting isn't popular or hard to find in France.
    More than 150, mostly Russian, escorts, only in Paris, and they do legal job according to French law. So difficult to find, just have to be blind. And not anymore golden years, when really difficult for me to find attractive looks now, when had so many beauties since 2011 and Russian nights. Unfortunately, escorting is now almost dead in Nice, Milano, Torino. Russian escorts are touring in Brussels and also Hungarian pornstar Zafira. Of course, can find girls in Czech Republic and Poland close to German border. Just have to know a bit.

  3. #17183
    Quote Originally Posted by BaltiX  [View Original Post]
    Tier 1 (Top).

    Germany.

    Austria.

    Switzerland.

    Spain.

    Portugal.

    UK.

    Netherlands.

    Belgium.

    Czechia.

    Greece.

    Tier 2 (Medium).

    Denmark.

    Italy.

    France.

    Poland.

    Slovakia.

    Hungary.

    Slovenia.

    Tier 3 (Bottom).

    Croatia.

    Serbia.

    Macedonia.

    Bulgaria.

    Ireland.

    Estonia.

    Lithuania.

    Latvia.

    Cyprus.

    Bosnia.

    Norway.

    Sweden.

    Not including Russia and Ukraine. No info about Luxembourg. What do you think?
    I've never seen or heard of anything good for Poland, Belgium, Denmark, Czechia, France, Norway or Sweden. I've only heard horror stories about poverty stricken escorts in Greece and escorting isn't popular or hard to find in France.

  4. #17182
    Quote Originally Posted by Gino02  [View Original Post]
    Yeah, sometimes it feels like most of the younger American guys (millennial and below) either don't enjoy sex or even worse don't even have dicks! Or maybe they think sex is only to procreate, causing the US strip clubs to go away. On the other hand, most of the 20 something girls I know are horny as hell to fuck in any chance, not that his highness this old fart is complaining about it.
    My biggest complaint is excessive drunkenness and lack of tipping. No wonder the US sucks.

  5. #17181
    Quote Originally Posted by Kamsutra69  [View Original Post]
    FKK is the best option for married, middle-aged men with no time, some money, average looks and a lot of kink. It's like Disneyland for us. Just walking in and thinking that one can have any (or all) of these young, half naked bodies for oneself is exciting. One is also allowed to be picky. And if one can afford to be generous and a regular, one might also become the "sought after".

    Happy mongering!
    This is so, so, true. My first visit to Sharks taught me that FKK is truly god's play land for men.

    I am resigned me to the fact that I made some choices in my life that will prevent me from visiting at will, and that recent changes will make it hard to visit at all. Were I master of my own destiny, I'd go every 3-4 months. And no, money is not the issue, it is other things in life. But I least I have my prior visits, and maybe someday things will change for me.

    FKK is pure magic.

  6. #17180

    Strip clubs

    All this talk of strip clubs reminds me of the time when strip clubs and even massage parlors were advertised on two local newspaper that are no longer in print. They stop advertised before they shut down because of sex trafficking or some bullshit. Like what others said strip clubs around where I live tone things down and some have shut down in recent years. For example topless lap dances was standard 8-9 years ago without paying for VIP, but in 2019 it's hard to find girls that go topless. There are girls that won't allow you to touch their breasts, never mind sucking on them unless you pay extra or VIP. There are clubs that offer "full service", but they are drug addicts, expensive and service is not guaranteed. I learned that the hard way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Where is the country in which our favorite girls are born?
    My bad I forget to add Romania.

  7. #17179
    Quote Originally Posted by GuyBrusg1957  [View Original Post]
    Agreed.

    It really sucks US Strip Clubs have fallen off the map. They're slowly getting rid of them entirely or turning into fancy sports bars or fancy clubs. It's not entirely their fault either, younger generations just don't seem to care as much.
    Yeah, sometimes it feels like most of the younger American guys (millennial and below) either don't enjoy sex or even worse don't even have dicks! Or maybe they think sex is only to procreate, causing the US strip clubs to go away. On the other hand, most of the 20 something girls I know are horny as hell to fuck in any chance, not that his highness this old fart is complaining about it.

  8. #17178
    Quote Originally Posted by BaltiX  [View Original Post]
    Tier 1 (Top).

    Germany.

    Austria.

    Switzerland.

    Spain.

    Portugal.

    UK.

    Netherlands.

    Belgium.

    Czechia.

    Greece.

    Tier 2 (Medium).

    Denmark.

    Italy.

    France.

    Poland.

    Slovakia.

    Hungary.

    Slovenia.

    Tier 3 (Bottom).

    Croatia.

    Serbia.

    Macedonia.

    Bulgaria.

    Ireland.

    Estonia.

    Lithuania.

    Latvia.

    Cyprus.

    Bosnia.

    Norway.

    Sweden.

    Not including Russia and Ukraine. No info about Luxembourg. What do you think?
    Where is the country in which our favorite girls are born?

  9. #17177
    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeLight  [View Original Post]
    M88, thanks for a well written summary. I hope people continue to stay safe and enjoy the experiences they built with SB babes. However, SB girls are simply not my type of service provider. I need a girl who tells me she had a room with 4 guys and two of them finished in her mouth. I want to see her dancing and parading her ass in front of a bunch of men. I want that kind of a real deal hard core woman who openly and willingly admits who she is. Fascinating, fucked up, and ready. And she gets a great respect from me for all this.

    It's your last paragraph that I am talking about in my post. In my case it's not just the economics, but a lack of time and my married status as another hurdle to cover up endless texting, dining, shopping and other activities implied by SB platform.
    FKK is the best option for married, middle-aged men with no time, some money, average looks and a lot of kink. It's like Disneyland for us. Just walking in and thinking that one can have any (or all) of these young, half naked bodies for oneself is exciting. One is also allowed to be picky. And if one can afford to be generous and a regular, one might also become the "sought after".

    Happy mongering!

  10. #17176
    Quote Originally Posted by BaltiX  [View Original Post]
    Tier 1 (Top).

    Germany.

    Austria.

    Switzerland.

    Spain.

    Portugal.

    UK.

    Netherlands.
    If a guy is shopping based for on convenience and English-speaking availability, I think it is a perfect list.

    A problem with this type of thread in general is it is difficult to discuss a $20 lady and a $500 lady at the same time, and some guys like the street scene and some guys like the call-girl outcall-to-a-fancy-Hotel scene. And some guys want to be in an environment where they see at least 10 ladies in person before choosing one, while other guys are okay with choosing one lady online long before the deed.

  11. #17175
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    You can't cay Germany is the best until you have been to all of the top mongering destinations in the world. You have not been to Brazil, and I say confidently to thee that Brazilian Portuguese speakers are the kinky best! Germany is second. As a matter of full disclosure, I have not been to the Dominican Republic. At the same time, I don't see to many people saying the DR is the best, and I seriously doubt I would either based on all of the research I have done and the intelligence I have gathered. Brazil rules! But for purposes of this thread, we can go with Germany LOL!
    So what is your strategic advice to get the best out of Brazil?

    Bordels? Internet dating sites or apps? Hitting up randoms on the beach?

    And does Rio rule? And if so which places?

    Or how does Sao Paulo compare? Or some of the other beach cities in the north east with more prado Brasilia, like Fortaleza, Recife, Natal? Or the southern Brazilian cities of Curitiba or Porto Alegre where there are more white Brazilians? Or are the inland big cities of Brazilia or Belo Horizonte worth a shot?

  12. #17174
    It depends what you name tier1, if it is young, fresh, and natural beauties all the countries are tier3. The big split is between legal or not, when it is illegal I don t go. At the end of the end what matters for me is to find young, natural and fresh beauties with no tattoo, sili, Botox, hair extension, with silk skin. No smoking which is more or less impossible to find except with some semi pro doing escort with agencies. Sometimes I see guys paying to fuck 35+ old woman, really so so I am wondering why they do this, it is possible to fuck them without paying in the real life. How many times I was at Shark at evening when there is BBQ outside, under the sunshine I can t find 1 girl matching my requests and still the guys are going with them, sex with a prostitute is never better than with a normal girl, if on top of that she is not very beautiful why should I spend my money. For me only beauty matters.

  13. #17173
    Quote Originally Posted by BaltiX  [View Original Post]
    Tier 1 (Top).

    Germany.

    Austria.

    Switzerland.

    Spain.

    Portugal.

    UK.

    Netherlands.

    Belgium.

    Czechia.

    Greece.

    Tier 2 (Medium).
    I disagree about Cyprus and particularly in Limassol. Some high class stunning Russian escorts to meet there in reasonable prices. I would also add Poland and Italy in Tier 1, Polish girls are incredible.

  14. #17172

    Tiers of prostituion in Europe

    Tier 1 (Top).

    Germany.

    Austria.

    Switzerland.

    Spain.

    Portugal.

    UK.

    Netherlands.

    Belgium.

    Czechia.

    Greece.

    Tier 2 (Medium).

    Denmark.

    Italy.

    France.

    Poland.

    Slovakia.

    Hungary.

    Slovenia.

    Tier 3 (Bottom).

    Croatia.

    Serbia.

    Macedonia.

    Bulgaria.

    Ireland.

    Estonia.

    Lithuania.

    Latvia.

    Cyprus.

    Bosnia.

    Norway.

    Sweden.

    Not including Russia and Ukraine. No info about Luxembourg. What do you think?

  15. #17171
    Quote Originally Posted by Gino02  [View Original Post]
    Totally agree with you on this. I had so much fun at many Miami clubs (Tootsie, and others I forgot names), Spearmint Rhinos in Vegas and LA areas, Tropical Lei in east of LA, Mitchell Brothers in SF etc etc up until about 10-12 years ago. All were full service, most cases inside the club discreetly and some cases OTC, if you are good with the girls. I even got few total freebies from few US strippers over the time. Alas, gone are those days.

    BTW, you can try GT in Vienna right now. They are fully open normal (not much Covid scare in Austria now), and average quality is pretty good, no too fat with cottage cheese, mostly 18-25 slim and few really beautiful faces, mostly good personalities too.
    Agreed.

    It really sucks US Strip Clubs have fallen off the map. They're slowly getting rid of them entirely or turning into fancy sports bars or fancy clubs. It's not entirely their fault either, younger generations just don't seem to care as much.

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